A French tobacconist in the commune of Albi has been handed down a three-month conditional sentence and a €3,000 fine after asking a Muslim woman wearing a chador to remove it from her head to identify herself.
With the aid of the “French Collective against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) organisation,” the French tobacconist “Marie P” was prosecuted and sentenced, because it was determined that “Marie P” could indeed see the face of “Anais R” and thus didn’t need to ask her to remove her chador. The case reflects “yet another conflict between French secular values and the religious practices of Muslims,” and in the West today, tolerance goes only in one direction.
Compare what happened in this case with another recent instance in France:
Another major issue has been the practise of Muslims praying on city streets, often in protest. Last year in the Paris suburb of Clichy, Muslims were removed from a building where they had set up a mosque despite not owning or having a valid lease on the property. In protest, the Muslims decided to pray in the street instead.
Were these Muslims given three-month conditional sentences and forced to pay $3450 in fines?
“French Shopkeeper Prosecuted for Asking Woman To Remove Islamic Chador,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, May 27, 2018:
A French tobacconist in the commune of Albi has been handed down a three-month conditional sentence and a €3,000 fine after asking a Muslim woman wearing a chador to remove it from her head to identify herself.
Tobacconist Marie P. requested that Muslim Anaïs R. remove the part of the chador covering her head claiming that the shop had a strict policy stating that no one was allowed wear a helmet or a hood in the shop, Le Figaro reports.
“Since I’m new here, I thought I would do what she asked,” Anaïs R. said and added that she explained to the shopkeeper that due to the fact her face was visible she was not in violation of the French law banning the full-face Islamic veil, and that Marie P.’s request was against the law.
Anaïs R. then picked up the package she was at the shop to collect and later brought charges of “discrimination on the grounds of religion and refusal of a good or service in a public place or to prohibit access,” against Marie P. with the aid of the French Collective against Islamophobia in France (CCIF) organisation…..
Another major issue has been the practise of Muslims praying on city streets, often in protest. Last year in the Paris suburb of Clichy, Muslims were removed from a building where they had set up a mosque despite not owning or having a valid lease on the property.
In protest, the Muslims decided to pray in the street instead and were met with counter-protests late last year from members of the conservative Republican Party, who confronted the Muslims while loudly singing the French national anthem…….
Guilherme says
If I had the money, I would pay the fine for that sh opp keeper!!!
Madge hirsch says
You don’t have to because she has not( despite what those liars at Breitbart say ) actually been fined. The case will not be judged till 28th June. See my reply below.
DogOnPorch says
France must not upset its new Masters.
mortimer says
JB, you are a master race fascist who does not believe in equal justice. I have saved all your fascist statements.
Mocking Muslims is not only bad manners, but ineffective and a breach of the Golden Rule. You are a bigot.
AleX says
I agree with Jay Boo.
Muzzies and their ridiculous practices are to be mocked and ridiculed.
Muzzies act like buffoons and deadly clowns.
Since medieval ages, mockery is played in public square as satire and criticism regardless of quality and style.
Mockery IS part of the Golden Rule.
somehistory says
Mort,
You are misapplying the Golden Rule.
A Christian must always tell the truth. Jesus called those who opposed Him “snakes” and :vipers,’ and “whitewashed graves” and told them they were headed for Gehenna.
Telling the truth is a part of the Golden Rule. No honest person wishes to be lied to.
If moslims don’t like to be “mocked”….they can stop being a part of the devil’s cult.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Well i thought it was funny anyway.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, are you *really* saying that anyone who mocks supremacist Muslims agressively praying in our streets is a “a master race fascist” and bigot?
Robert Spencer has also spoken critically of Muslims taking over our streets for threatening mass prayers. Do you consider him a “a master race fascist”, as well?
By the way, Islam is *not* a race. Opposing the violence of Islam and Shari’ah is *not* racist.
Why do you think that Muslims taking over our streets is a good thing?
justfeddup says
There is a reason dogs are hated and not allowed in mosques. Watch how dogs greet each other.
mortimer says
JB is a bigot and a fascist. I have saved his statements. They are still in the archives.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Saved them for what?
gravenimage says
Mortimer, are you *really* taking a stand *for* forced Hijab and marital rape in Islam? Do you really consider opposing these horrors to make one a “bigot” and a “fascist”?
Really, I cannot agree with you. I think that forced veiling and rape are fascistic instead.
Carolyne says
When Mortimer says he\she is saving your statements, for what purpose is he/she saving them? Is that a threat of some kind?
dan christensen says
Nothing special about this. In Scandinavia muslim women regularly applies for jobs in supermarkets, hospitals, the police force and so on.
When they are told to leave headscarves at the entrance, they sue the company or public organisation, where they applied, for racial discrimination demanding reparation money. Often they receive it.
It has become quite an industry for the chosen people.
carpediadem says
Please do not refer to these scum as The Chosen People.
gravenimage says
I think Dan was being sarcastic.
Billy Chickens says
Not feeling sorry or shedding a tear for dhimmi France. They have let this happen to them and these are the consequences of their liberalism. So no tearing of shirts. Just man up and deal with it – or else fight. One or the other, but please stop with the whining.
somehistory says
The beast is busy in all four corners of the earth. The devil’s sons and daughters waging his war against humanity. He sends his children to “steal, kill and destroy>’ Stealing money while pretending to be oh-so- pious.
molsims doing the work of their satanic beast at their father’s direction all over the earth…in all four corners.
Soon, the angels will release the “winds” in the “four corners of the earth” to blow the evil into destruction.
Carolyne says
Earth is round. No corners. Perhaps these angels think the earth is flat and square? We must not depend on pie in the sky. Ridding civilized countries of Muslims is our own responsibility.
LeftisruiningCanada says
There is no pie in the sky.
Those who know the Truth seek only Spaghetti.
Cicero says
Ha ha such ghoulish humour befitting the ghouls
Gjallarhornet says
“Ghoul … It’s a good word”.
gravenimage says
France: Shopkeeper gets three months, $3450 fine for asking woman to remove Islamic head covering
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Just appalling.
shoehorn says
The customer complied with the shop-keeper’s request to remove a head covering. She was not denied service. Where is the religious discrimination?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Reminds me of how young children will keep on crying and crying if you get all concerned and sympathetic sounding, but will stop crying and get back to their business if you tell them everything’s fine and there’s nothing to cry about.
Arthur says
It sounds like the shopkeeper was female. So, there is no religious law that says Muslim women must wear a head covering in the presence of other women, right?
The shopkeeper did not deny the Muslim woman a good or service.
In the end, what seems clear is that annoying a Muslim is a crime in France (and the UK and Germany). Those non-Muslims who annoy Muslims will be punished. Nothing more to it.
IanB says
Exactly right Arthur. We dhimmi infidels, the worst of creatures, must not annoy Muslims, the best of peoples, in sharia bound UK. Until the soon approaching day of reckoning when their annoyance will be extinguished. Well, one can wish.
Madge hirsch says
Again you have put up a completely false headline about a court case in France . Instead of relying on those liars at Breitbart you should rely on someone who can read French and who has at least some notion of how the French judicial system works. NO SENTENCE HAS BEEN HANDED DOWN !!!The prosecutor has asked for these penalties. The case will not even be judged till 28 th June. This is clear in all the reports in the French press. Also there were 4 complainants. The judge could decide there has been no discrimination as the defendant asked that people take off their sunglasses, berets ,hoodies etc. They could decide that there had indeed been a refusal to supply a service but decide on a much smaller penalty. What you are doing is slapdash at best, dishonest at worst and brings the counter jihad into disrepute.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Madge hirsh,
You are right https://lemuslimpost.com/albi-prison-sursis-requise-contre-buraliste-anti-voile.html.
gravenimage says
Wait–you have no problem with French prosecutors seeking such an unjust sentence? Why?
Madge hirsch says
This case will hang on what constitutes a face for the purposes of identification as it is to do with picking up parcels from a relai. To get your parcel you have to identify yourself ie produce your identity card . If a hijabi reveals enough of her face to be recognised in the photo it is a denial of service to insist she removes the hijab to get her parcel. I would imagine a person could equally well refuse to remove their beret as this does not obscure the face. I’d bet good money that the buraliste would not refuse them their parcel. Prosecutors often ask for higher sentences than they know they will get.
WPM says
So really this story should have been research out thoroughly before posting here on Jihad watch, true. In many banks in New York City you must remove sunglasses ,hats, hoods when entering the lobby area everyone all men and women .If that was posted at the front of the store and was the policy for everyone I do not see a problem with it. Many establishment have dress codes to enter and be served ,many it be no shorts or no shoes no service , sports coats for men ect. If they apply to everyone I do not see a problem with it .If I had a mask on hiding my face as a man I might be denied service in many placing never mind trying to use a credit card or bank check to pay for services at that place? You have the right to dress the way you want in public as long as you are not obscene ,you lose that right when you enter a place for service if it is apply equal to all people ,races, and religions especial if it hides your identity .
Lavéritétriomphera says
In France religious symbols are not banned in public places and in stores, except for safety and hygiene reasons. It seems that this shopkeeper has committed an offence. I wear a cross in full public view on the subway, in the street, in shopping centers and “pious” Muslims do not fully appreciated it, but they are quite right to keep their mouth shut if they don’t want trouble. The law is the same for everybody in France.
Madge hirsch says
But at least we can go to hospitals and not get treated by people flaunting their religions which is not the same in the Anglo Saxon world.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Indeed, in France philosophy is very important, and one of our best mystic Marguerite porrete has paid the price for it https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2010/jun/07/marguerite-porete-mirror-simple-souls.
French People are wary of religions. As far I am concerned, I cannot stand politically correct claptrap when referring to religions especially Islam.
Carolyne says
Agree with JayBoo too. Muslims deserve to be ridiculed. Some of the things they do like sticking their butts in the air are funny. I don’t think the “Golden Rule” applies here, but if I got in the middle of the street and waved my butt in the air, I’d deserve ridicule because it would be ridiculous.