Godet, who serves as head of the psychiatry unit at Saint-Cyr-au-Mont-d’Or hospital centre and is a member of the national office of the Union of Hospital Psychiatrists (SPH), said: “There is no scientific study showing an objective link between jihadist radicalism and this or that personality structure.”
Every act by jihadis worldwide has been perpetuated in the name of Islam. It is an expansionist doctrine that calls for and sanctions heinous human rights violations.
The Muslims who choose to practice these doctrines are fueled by religious zeal, and are promised rewards in paradise as mujahideen martyrs. They are not mentally ill; they are indoctrinated, and have chosen a path. They are further inspired by hate preachers and leaders, such as Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who envisions a revived Ottoman Empire; the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei; and the leader of the Islamic State, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, who has a PhD in Islamic Studies.
There is no link between mental illness and jihad terror. There is, however, a twist: a violent psychotic may be drawn to the jihad doctrine as justifying his propensity for violence. In such cases, two damaging phenomena can combine. But they are still separate entities and should be treated as such.
“Psychiatrist Denies Link Between Mental Illness and Radical Islamic Terrorism,” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, May 3, 2018:
French psychiatrist Pierre-François Godet has denied a causal link between radical Islamic terrorism and mental illness saying that he could find no objective studies that proved any direct links between the two.
Godet, who serves as head of the psychiatry unit at Saint-Cyr-au-Mont-d’Or hospital centre and is a member of the national office of the Union of Hospital Psychiatrists (SPH), said: “There is no scientific study showing an objective link between jihadist radicalism and this or that personality structure.”
In an article written for French magazine Lyon Capitale, Godet explains the difference between a mentally ill psychotic and a person without overt mental illness saying that the psychotic is prone to delirium and delusion.
“The two most common themes of delusion are the ideas of persecution (‘I am being hurt’) and the ideas of greatness (‘I fear nothing’),” he wrote and added that a delirious person would either think they were being persecuted by radical Islamic terrorists in the persecution sense, or would believe, “I am strong, because Allah is the strongest and he is with me.”
“In the second case, we may be confronted with a delusional psychotic who goes to the act by shouting ‘Allah hu akbar!’ But, what guides the gesture of this patient, it is not the jihadist radicalisation, it is the radical nature of his illness at this point in his evolution: he does not need to be ideologically radicalised by anyone or anything to act,” Godet said.
Godet profiles the average radical Islamic terrorist as being a young man “with a criminal or prison history, especially of petty crime with violence” – a profile which matches a study from the French Institute of International Relations (Ifri) released in March.
He added that many of the terrorists may exhibit personality disorders, however.
“My clinical point of view on these few portraits of jihadists that the press has given is, therefore, the following: I do not see mentally ill people among them, and identifiable personality traits are not part of psychiatric care,” he said……
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
The isolation structure, to a nonexistent perception: of butchery,rape, oppression, discrimination of Muslims persecution of their religion, fostered by their prophet, (who never made a prophecy)politicians and Imams have created this beast, to forward their expansion..
mortimer says
No, JIHADIST IDEATION is NOT a mental illness but more a form of SELF-INDUCED HYPNOSIS.
Islam has no intellectual, historical or moral basis, and so, it relies entirely upon constant repetition and self-indoctrination to the ideological delusion.
Islam is thus, purely OBSCURANTISM … defined as : the practice of deliberately preventing the facts or full details of something from becoming known or a policy of opposing the spread of knowledge or of withholding knowledge from the public.
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
No one is saying that mortimer ?
revereridesagain says
It is not entirely “self-induced”, either. Muslims recruit. It is called dawah. Those of us who have worked in the field of cult investigation witnessed this pattern thousands of times – it is not unique to any particular cult or to Islam. To be recruited does not indicate mental illness. It may happen in the presence of a personality disorder or ideological inclination, or in an emotionally healthy individual trying to rescue a loved one from a cult, or because one has fallen in love with a cult member and is evading that person’s ideological danger signals. However, once recruited, the factors identified by Douglas-Williams will begin to gain more and more traction. Godet’s position is realistic and appropriate.
But with the protection of and approval shown towards Islam by the Left, and the denunciation of anyone who criticizes it as an “Islamophobe”, Islam enjoys a position of approval far greater than that of ordinary cults. The cultural warning signals against other cults are being obscured by the “hate speech” rhetoric of the Islamophile Left.
J D S says
Mortimer…I do have another theory…..What about centuries of inbreeding coupled with centuries of forced indoctrinated Islamic nonsense.
Could this possibily be causing a misfire in the brain????
Wish this guy or someone would do a study on this.
Julea Bacall says
Acting in a way that is LIKE mental illness is something that can be taught for sure. Look at feral kids, raised by animals. They act like the animal it was raised by–a wolf, a moose, and they learn the language of growls, grunts, howls-there is a language…
Our behavior is taught. Islam is Taught but it is the old warlord culture. Qur’an is just the warlord manual for expansion by conquering or population take over with everyone acting according to the manual or punishment or death. But it is acting like what we call mental illness today like schizophrenia, fanatic, compulsive, psychotic behaviors.
gravenimage says
French psychiatrist denies link between mental illness and jihad terror
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Kudos to Dr. Godet for telling the truth. Jihadists are driven by the vicious ideology they embrace, not mental illness.
jayell says
‘Vicious ideology’ – don’t say that in the UK. A certain unfashionable political leader said something very similar to that about islam about 10-15 years ago and nearly went to prison for 7 years
gravenimage says
Yes–the crushing of freedom of speech in Britain–especially when it comes to criticizing the horrors of Islam–is just appalling suicidal madness.
balam says
ISLAM IS A SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS. Sir. Winston Churchill wrote that ISLAM IN A MUSLIM WAS LIKE RABIES IN A DOG .Hence ,it is better to be SAFE THAN SORRY. Just keep the rabid dogs away.
balam says
@gravenimage: One mentally disturbed Muslim went to see the psychiatrist to find out what was wrong with hm.The psychiatrist told him after diagnosis that he was suffering from ISLAM-a grave mental illness.
gravenimage says
Grimly amusing, balam.
elee says
You have touched upon Islam’s great competitive advantage.
There are more criminals than saints in this world.
Christianity and Judaism tell man to aspire to sainthood.
Islam tells men to emulate the prophet, rob caravans and commit genocide.
Who’s got the recruiting advantage among the amoral? Whose doctrine sells like the proverbial hotcakes among violent felons?
And when a man tells you he is a Muslim, what is he telling you about himself?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
+1
Tim says
Islam is the only “religion” that works specifically off the R-Complex of the brain. The R-Complex is the reptilian aspect of the human brain that sits at the base of the brain atop the spinal cord. This evolutionary feature is the most fully developed aspect of the brain. It is the most easily influenced part of the brain. It is the part of the brain that says kill or attack, it establishes the territorial imperative, it establishes the dominance factor, it infuses sex with animal lust. The R-Complex is what makes Islam so attractive to humans and so successful.
gravenimage says
Good post, elee.
Bob Carrillo says
In Minnesota these days, every atrocity committed by jihadist zealots here, are almost immediately labeled as due to “mental illness”, or “of a depraved mind” (former Minneapolis PD officer, Mohamed Noor), OR, the multiple rapist assaults, OR, the multiple stabbings, OR, the killings, OR, the gang assaults and threats of “kidnapping and rape” (See: 3 days in a row – 30 men attack women at Lake Calhoun, Minneapolis – June 2016), OR, you name it..
The people who are insane, are those promoting this fiction..
Stacy Girl says
Absolutely. And who believes this?
Tom says
In accepting or promoting the idea that those who commit violent acts of terror in the name of Islam are mentally ill, governments and the left are mitigating the very real threat that Islam poses to their very existence.
They do this because to acknowledge that those who commit such acts are a product of the teachings of Islam would destroy the political narrative that Islam is a religion of peace. If that were to happen there would be open revolt on the streets of many cities in the west calling for the heads of those in politics, the clergy, and on the left of the political spectrum, all of whom have defended Islam and muslims without question.
The recent letter signed by over 300 high profile French politicians and others decrying Islam for propagating jihad against the west, and now a prominent French psychiatrist saying that there is no connection between Jihadist actions and mental illness, confirms what those of us with the ability of logical thinking and common sense have known for years, that Islam is NOT a religion of peace, it is not even a religion, but a geopolitical ideology of supremacy that is invading and destroying our western countries.
Santa Voorhees says
I am genuinely interested if there’s any link between mental illness and leftism. I hope someone will look into that!
Buraq says
You don’t *have* to be mad to obey Allah’s eternal commands, but if you are ……..
Ren says
Another ignorant of islam.
Aingel Strong says
it follows therefore that there can be no such thing as “islamophobia” .. Hoorah ..
Salah says
“Psychiatrist Denies Link Between Mental Illness and Radical Islamic Terrorism,”
That’s only because Demon Possession is not considered Mental Illness.
According to islamic “holy” books Muhammad was demon possessed since his early childhood.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2011/10/muhammad-and-satan_24.html
Malcolm (SouthAfria) says
Salah
He certainly was, it was mo,s first wife Khadija, who uncle (a sort of christian) who convinced him it was the angel Gabriel that strangeld him in the cave.
Now what angel would strangle a person, of course it was a demon.
Compare that when the angel Gabriel visted Mary Lk 1 26-38
Salah says
You’re right, Malcolm. Khadija was the one who convinced him that he was a real prophet.
I made a pps about this on my blog seven years ago. Here it is:
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2011/06/khadijas-thighs.html
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Followed your links, you are doing good work, may the peace of our Lord, Jesus Christ be with you always.
mortimer says
Islam is DELUSIONAL THOUGHTS, rather than a mental illness.
Islam is a perverted distortion of the thought process. Muslims are in denial about all the absurd things that Mohammed said and did. Muslims deny they have been lied to for 1400 years about Mohammed. Mohammed was a psychopath, a serial killer, a toxic narcissist and a temporal-lobe epileptic. He claimed that disbelievers have 7 intestines, that the devil sleeps in your nose and pees in your ear and that demons eat the poop of Muslims. He believed the sun set in a spring of warm water, that the earth rests on giant whales and that a flying donkey took him up to heaven while he was sleeping, and that Allah could give one ‘eternal’ revelation one day and give a contradictory revelation a week later, not realizing that ‘eternal’ is the opposite of ‘temporary’ and that these contradictions proved he was fabricating these hocus-pocus messages. At a number of times, Mohammed himself believed he was bewitched or insane. Why should we disagree with Mohammed’s opinion? The fact is, Mohammed was a complete basket case unfit to rule over anyone and his companions thought that too which is why they poisoned him and then covered it up and then didn’t speak about him for 60 years until the time of Caliph Abd al Malik when all those who knew the madman were dead. Even Charles Manson was saner than Mohammed. Mohammed was crippled with paralyzing superstitions, anxieties, bogeymen and obsessive compulsions such as repetitive washing, so much so that he needed to control how Muslims farted or the direction they sat on the toilet. Mohammed not only needed to dominate others and enslave them, but endlessly humiliate them as well. He was a mentally ill dictator, obsessed with controlling his cult members to the point of codifying something as personal as how to wipe their bottom and with how it must be an odd number of stones. It’s absurd! Mohammed’s control issues are the perfect example of OCD. Islam is a sick game of hokey pokey where dissent is illegal and you can never question anything. Mohammed recommended people drink camel urine, he dressed in women’s clothing while receiving his fake revelations, he was schizophrenic or epileptic. Muslims uncritically believe anything they are told. They think Mohammed looked like a movie star, but a hadith says he was a short, pale, fat dwarf. Mohammed probably had a napoleon complex which is only one of his many personality disorders. Muslims think they must imitate all of Mohammed’s personality disorders which makes them all share in his mental illnesses. So with as a result of these strong mental delusion and obsessive compulsiveness, Muslims continue to make an appalling sport of beheadings and stoning and endless meaningless washings and umpteen burdensome absurd regulations. Muslims cut the entire clitoris out of small girls, they force them to marry old men. They make women into prisoners and domestic animals. Civilized people call raping a nine-year-old girl ‘pedophilia’, but Muslims twist their minds in a knot to believe pedophilia cannot be wrong if Mohammed did it. Disgusting! The mullahs know all the errors in the Koran and hadiths but they continue to promote them . The mullahs are amoral charlatans who have no conscience about promoting the rape of little girls and sending youth to die with suicide bombs strapped to them. What sort of people take, ‘We love death’ as their slogan? What a sick Death Cult. Islam is so obviously fake, that Muslims should easily be able to discern the hundreds of moral, historic, scientific and factual errors in Islam and so leave Islam with confidence.
Marc Cross says
Leave the epilepsy out of this, it is not a contributing factor to the Islamic worldview.
Despite the moslem ‘seizure’ of vast amounts of land and property, there is no other link between the epilepsy and islam.
mortimer says
Marc, This is a medical opinion … not my original thought :
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/793843
A differential diagnosis of the inspirational spells of Muhammad the Prophet of Islam.
Freemon FR.
Abstract
This paper reviews the spells of Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam. During these spells, Muhammad sensed the approach of a figure whom he thought to be the Angel Gabriel. The inspirational message transmitted to Muhammad during these spells helped form the religion of Islam. This is a review of the historical details of these spells and an attempt to reach a medical diagnosis. Although an unequivocal decision is not possible from existing knowledge, psychomotor or complex partial seizures of temporal lobe epilepsy would be the most tenable diagnosis. An examination of Western civilization’s views of Muhammad’s spells reveals historical and modern misconceptions about epilepsy.
Also :
Life Alert: The Medical Case of Muhammad Paperback – Jul 1 2001
by Dede Korkut (Author)
About 50 pages discussed the medical condition of Mohammad explaining that he had Epilepsy and Hydrocephalus.
gravenimage says
Most Muslims are not epileptics, nor are most epilectics violent.
The problem with Islam is not epilepsy, whether Muhammed was an epileptic or not.
somehistory says
They are psychopathic con artists. Anyone not a moslim who converts to islam has these same personality characteristics and is drawn to the cult because it sanctions what he/she wishes to do and then be excused and praised for doing.
the psychopath knows right from wrong, he/she just chooses to live by the wrong and cares not for what is right. This is the way islam teaches and this is the way psychopaths think, act, and respond to the teaching.
Murder, rape, lying, theft, manipulation, crying victimization, and being told because of these, he/she is superior to all others who live by a different code of conduct.
Those who are not psychopaths, but born into islam, are the ones who try to leave it.
More people should be using their brain as this doctor has done. Get the word out. it isn’t mental illness.
Kasey says
Has this French ‘nut-cracker” ever considered the long-term effects of intense Islamic indoctrination and its content with ego identification, which always seems to produce a “victim” mentality in so many of its recipients, particularly in those who have not had much education or even otherwise?
It’s rather unlikely that any objective study of any dormant mental condition can be done, despite so many lethally violent attacks by Islamists around the world, but are those perpetrators likely to be willingly, part of any control group?
Yet how often is the excuse made that the Muslim in question for any lethal attack, is suffering from a mental disorder? It’s standard procedure to take any blame or responsibility away from it being directly related to Islam? But so many seem to display a form of Islamic insanity, either within the born Muslim groups or converted Muslims, when he/she perpetrates a terrorist act.
Surely this qualifies for some form of psychiatric awareness to be recognized?
Julea Bacall says
People can be TAUGHT to act any way the authority wants. A young child becomes like those who teach him and the pattern goes on and on. A wolf child acts like a wolf, normal people can be taught to act with the traits of mental illness if the authority says they must. They can act like vulture capitalists or Mormon or Amish or Muslims. People are taught how to act. The Qur’an/Hadiths are the authority and when we read it, we see the inhumane wrongness. So glad it was not implanted in me. Its like a straight jacket with the clever way way it will not allow people to leave because of the fear that Allah is really the way they say.
John M Kane says
There is no doubt in my mind that Satan is real and Islamic extremism is one of his tools.
The idea that radicalism is a ‘mental disorder’ is a lie used by the left and naive bleeding-heart liberals to excuse responsibility away from the perpetrators of jihad on non-muslims (and those muslims who what to be more rational and secular).
The ‘mental disorder’ we see today is really the influence of Satan on those who really do wish to follow his rule both actively (as combatants and terrorists) and passively (pacifists, corrupters, selfishness, cowardice, etc.).
Julea Bacall says
Some mental illness is really physical and sometimes the traits of a mental illness or animal behavior get taught to a society if the Authority displays the actions as ‘THE Way to be because I said Allah said”
The Qur’an is their Authority. When I read it, I knew it was not normal, healthy, humane or even lawful for our century.
No Muzzies Here says
So, someone who blows himself to bits yelling “Aristotle, Plato and Archimedes” is a terrorist, but one who yells “Allahu Akhbar” is insane?
Or are they both insane?
It’s really hard to understand leftist reasoning, because they are not of this world.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Slanderous “socialist” extortion is the catalyst to islamic terror
Here’s the “psychology” of “radicalization:”
The bottom line of sharia is that Islam’s Qur’an only lists and sums up all the bad criminal acts everyone might become tempted into committing in the course of their lives anyway, and gives them the endorsement of “God” himself! So everyone already prone, in at least some situational circumstances in their lives, to indulge their criminal desires and turn them into criminal actions, will eventually embrace islam (in prison, if not before)!
Beyond this, “muslims” are also trained from birth to lie to all others, and to personally kill small animals in their Eid rituals, while being taught they are the best of people, and all infidel others are only worthy of being murdered and sent to hell – by them, personally, not by “god.”
And in Judeo-Christianity, when one is depressed and considers suicide, (much less considering suicide after or by committing mass murder) one is told one is destined for HELL.
While in islam, on the contrary, when one is depressed and considering suicide, one is told that all one has to do to guarantee one’s instant ascent to HEAVEN itself, (while also guaranteeing a choice spot there for 72 of one’s chosen family members and closest friends) is to at least TRY to murder as many (even random) infidels as one can, “for allah!”
And once one is acclimatized to the West (say, as a second or third-generation muslim, born here) one encounters like-minded excuse-making and victim-blaming libertine “liberal” extortionists gangsters, who assert that one’s lack of success is caused by other white “racists” and so one’s proud victimhood (notable absent among muslims born into islamic countries, who have been taught from birth that they are superior to all infidels) naturally leads to suicidal depression – as it does among all liberal-inflicted indigenous peoples – and so grows the desire for ‘revenge.’
…
“The source of Islamic hatred is an open book – one called “the Qur’an” – beginning with Surah Al-Fatiha and Surah Al-Baqarah. We went astray, assigned a partner to Allah and resist his will by refusing to submit. For that, Allah hates and curses us. Because Allah curses us, Muslims curse us. They need to punish us for not being Muslims. [9:14, 9:29, 9:123]
Do Muslims have a right to practice Islam? Only if they have a right to attack, kill, plunder, extort rape, & enslave all who do not submit to Allah. Islam entails those works, because Moe, the greatest and best of men and the Muslim role model, did them. [33:21] They do not have a right to do that here.
Today a Muslim may be as passive and benign as Dr. Jasser, tomorrow he may get Iman and emulate Dr. Hassan. If we keep him out, we don’t need to worry about it unless he obtains long range weapons.”
– Dajjal –
Older Canadian says
At last a shrink with a brain, and obviously not a marxist/socialist/communist, or on their payroll.
I wonder when they will gag him. Soon I expect. Or they can discredit him by digging up some imaginary horrid thing he has said or done 20, 30 years ago.