The article below by Hoda Katebi in Glamour magazine asserts:
Non-Muslim women can sport modest clothing and be called professional or elegant, yet when Muslim women dress modestly, our taste and style is often overlooked. Or, to put it more bluntly, when you wear a turtleneck, you’re elegant; when I wear one I’m oppressed.
There is actually no double standard about modest dressing in the West. It is a pity to point out what should be obvious in the face of deceit from Hoda Katebi (promoted by Glamour magazine), but here we go again:
- Western women are not told how to dress by religious law, as are Muslim women. Western women are not warned that if they choose not to fully cover up, then they deserve to be abused:
(Quran 24:31) And tell the believing women to reduce of their vision and guard their private parts and not expose their adornment except that which appears thereof and to wrap [a portion of] their head covers over their chests and not expose their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, their brothers’ sons, their sisters’ sons, their women, that which their right hands possess, or those male attendants having no physical desire, or children who are not yet aware of the private aspects of women. And let them not stamp their feet to make known what they conceal of their adornment. And turn to Allah in repentance, all of you, O believers, that you might succeed.
If a woman does not cover, she is fair game to be assaulted:
(Quran 33:59) O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused.
- When Western women wear a turtleneck or full body coverings, it is usually in colder weather. Katebi herself describes the turtleneck fashion releases for runways in fall and the Macy’s line in February. Otherwise, the turtleneck is worn with a no-sleeve blouse in the dog days of summer. One hardly ever sees Western women wearing turtlenecks with ankle-length skirts and head coverings in the scorching heat of summer for the sake of modesty. In the West, it is fair to say that to cover up in that way, especially if there is a threat if one does not do so, amounts to oppression. That’s no double standard.
- Western women are not forcibly suffocated under full niqab, as are many Muslim women — even some who insist also that such coverings are “modest” and their choice.
- Women in the West have choice. Women who abide by the sharia do not.
Hoda Katebi states:
As a Muslim American political fashion blogger who’s dressed modestly for most of her adult life (for me, that means favoring billowy cuts and not showing skin beyond my face and forearms)…
The biggest problem many Western women have is their gullibility. The biggest double standard that exists in the West is that of radical feminists who claim to support equal rights for women, but have abandoned FGM victims, child brides, and Muslim women who are authorized under religious law to be beaten, and/or who are forced to cover up.
Katebi can openly spread her deception in Western society because of what is left of the freedom of speech, threatened as it is by Sharia expansionists. Those supremacists take full advantage of the freedom of speech in levying false charges of “Islamophobia” and double-standards as they ignore the mistreatment of women all across the Islamic world and increasingly in the West.
Some more of Katebi’s thoughts:
This country was literally built on the backs of Black slaves and after the genocide of indigenous people….my work is centered on challenging the privilege of white people in this country and challenging the racist institutions on which this country was built.
It is a shame that long after the abolition of slavery, the end of segregation, much repentance, and a black President in the U.S., blacks are still being held as slaves by Muslims in Sudan and Mauritania, and the black Muslims of Boko Haram (along with their jihadist Fulani associates) are massacring the black Christians of Nigeria. The same goes for al Shabab in Somalia and Kenya.
“When You Wear a Turtleneck, You’re Elegant; When I Wear One, I’m Oppressed,” by Hoda Katebi, Glamour, May 10, 2018:
If you follow runway news even casually, you’ve likely heard about the rise of “modest” dressing. Broadly defined as clothing that’s not revealing in terms of cut and fit, modest dressing isn’t exactly a new idea, but in the last few seasons, it’s emerged as a consistent theme in the mainstream, secular fashion scene. On the fall 2018 runways, for example, there were below-the-knee skirts paired with up-to-the-collarbone blouses at Tibi, all manner of oversize outerwear at Balenciaga, anoraks as dresses at Dries van Noten, and long skirts over trousers at Gucci.
Meanwhile, brands have started catering more explicitly to “modest” dressers, including sites like the Modist, which sells designer pieces that fit within modesty standards from the likes of Marni and Rachel Comey, as well as Macy’s, which in February introduced The Verona Collection, a line of modest clothing. Just this week H&M announced it would also launch a modest fashion line. In fact, if you keep up with fashion trends, there’s a good chance the clothes you’re wearing are more covered up than the ones you were wearing, say, two years ago.
As a Muslim American political fashion blogger who’s dressed modestly for most of her adult life (for me, that means favoring billowy cuts and not showing skin beyond my face and forearms), you’d think I’d be all for this.
And, to a certain extent, I am: I have no complaints about my newfound ability to walk into a store and pick out a long-sleeve shirt that isn’t translucent or dramatically scoop-neck with relative ease. (Provided the shirt in question is ethically produced.) But there’s one huge difference between my wearing a chunky turtleneck with an ankle-grazing skirt and that same look on Valentino’s fall runway: I also pair my outfit with a hijab. As I’ve been seeing more people who dress the way I do from the neck down, I’ve become acutely aware of a painful double standard generated by what I choose to wear from the neck up: Non-Muslim women can sport modest clothing and be called professional or elegant, yet when Muslim women dress modestly, our taste and style is often overlooked. Or, to put it more bluntly, when you wear a turtleneck, you’re elegant; when I wear one I’m oppressed……
krishna says
these westernised muslims say hijab is choice because they both want to retain cultural values and at same time be american in culture
if she visits country like iran she won’t find any girl saying hijab is choice
Jake2701 says
What do they call it? Taqiya?
Battle says
Hota Katebi, column in Glamor, is lying to advance Islam and she knows she is lying.
Carolyne says
Her idea apparently is that “Modest dress” consists of wearing a black garbage bag when out and about. That isn’t modesty. That is slavery. And on the subject of slavery, I am willing to pay enormous reparations to any slave I ever owned. How about this idiot and her Saudi buddies?
JawsV says
A Muslim columnist in “Glamour.” That’s terrible. I wouldn’t let my daughter read it. “Glamour” we don’t buy.
Older Canadian says
I wonder how much she got paid for this. Follow the money trail it always leads to deceit.
Glamour, endorses that a woman should never feel the wind or sun, or rain or anything on her body from the feet up.
By the way sweetie, turtle necks were created for us poor slobs in northern climates. Male and females of all ages wear them. It has nothing, zero, zip, nada to do with modesty. Just thought you should know.
No Muzzies Here says
It’s very unusual to see the words Muslim and Glamour in the same sentence.
JawsV says
“Glamour” capitulating to Islam is disgusting.
mortimer says
GLAMOUR = DHIMMI publication
Motto: MUSLIM WOMEN ENJOY BEING SLAVES OF PATRIARCHY.
And we endorse SLAVERY – Glamour Magazine
Sun says
Glamour Magazine announced Linda Sarsour as “Women of the Year” awardee in 2017.
That says it all!
David says
How can a muslima be involved with a Glamour magazine? Why would she want to be fashionable, and dress seductively? Where is the modesty?
It is natural for a woman to want to be attractive, but she is oppressed by Islam, so there is a conflict of interests.Feminists attitudes are so contradictory. They support Islam/Sharia, and ignore FGM, stoning etc.
gravenimage says
It’s all Taqiyya. Glamour Magazine is acting the useful idiot, and Muslims are happy to use that.
revereridesagain says
I do not need to be lectured about “white privilege” from this virtue-signaling sharia-compliant whore of Allah when her fellow Muslims are still actively enslaving black Africans. Bet “Glamour” won’t be covering that fact any time soon, or showing respect to the heroic Westerners such as Charles Jacobs who actually get out there and do something about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvSM_v0Gnyw
Oh, and Hoda? Keep coverin’ up even though you’re not likely to be makin’ the kuffar men all excited. You got a lot to be modest about, girl. That’s just a bit of early-morning cattiness because I haven’t had my second coffee yet.
Nona says
Absolutely! THere’s nothing to be going after, where she’s concerned. She ONLY imagines….
Carolyne says
I had my second cup of coffee and I still feel the same as you do. Would a third cup help?
gravenimage says
+1
Sarah says
What a total pile of Tacquiya.
As a woman, if I choose to wear a ‘turtleneck’, I do so because it is warm and comfortable in bloody cold weather.
I don’t pull a turtleneck out of my wardrobe and think to myself:
“Now here’s a good way to hide my body from the gaze of the male eye, so as I retain my modesty.
Because if I dress immodestly, I’ll be harassed, assaulted, raped etc – and it’ll be all my fault. Plus having lost my modesty, as a result, means I am nothing but worthless trash that has caused a social nightmare for the men in my family that can only be remedied by those male relatives having me gang raped, or beaten, or outright slaughtered like an old, dried up milking cow.”
That’s the difference between us Western women CHOOSING to cover up with clothing for comfort or style reasons and you Muslim women covering up because of savage, primitive Arab tribal customs.
And you know that, very clearly, you deceitful piece of work.
Nona says
Well, a turtle-neck is an elegant top, La Audrey Hepburn, was the exemplary model of it:
http://www.allposters.cz/-sp/Audrey-Hepburn-quot-Funny-Face-quot-1957-Directed-by-Stanley-Donen-Plakaty_i9731525_.htm
Peace be onto her! Hehehe!
On the other hand, no mater how a muslima dresses, all the fashion modes, the cocktail dresses, evening dresses she wears, if she wears a hijad head rag, she will ALWAYS look like a maid mopping floors.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cocktail+dresses+and+hijabs&safe=active&rlz=1CATAAA_enUS751US752&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjJ5vHY0f7aAhWB5oMKHT4NC8gQ_AUICygC&biw=1326&bih=622#imgrc=_
Blessings,
Carolyne says
She is a deceitful piece of something, but I wouldn’t call it work.
revereridesagain says
What’s sad is that teenage girls who are already being taught what a wonderful religion Islam is instead of being warned against the come-hitherisms of Muslim men looking for kafir wives to cement their presence in the dar-al-Harb and for the production of future generations of obedient Muslim children will be reading this rot in Glamour and nodding enthusiastically, encouraged by the anti-“islamophobia” world they inherit. I fear too many will be learning the truth the hard way.
mgoldberg says
There is nothing modest about Hoda Katebi, nor her position. There is no shame in her for the millions of women disfigured for not wearing the hijab, by her fellow ‘modest’ muslims. There is no shame in her for the horrors of the enslavement of the girls of Nigeria, who are modestly clothed, but Christian, and young
who are raped, enslaved and for whom modesty was not a shield against the enslavement of non muslims by muslims. Nor is there shame for the hatred of others expressed over and over and over by the quran, hadiths, by the nations of Islam that threaten and rage and shout.
Modest??
What modesty.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… The biggest double standard that exists in the West is that of radical feminists who claim to support equal rights for women, but have abandoned FGM victims, child brides, and Muslim women who are authorized under religious law to be beaten, and/or who are forced to cover up…”
Very concise and well said Christine.
We’ll all have to keep plugging away to push the message home and to get some action to liberate these young and not so young females who have been brought up in Muslim households.
jayell says
“When you wear a turtleneck, you’re elegant; when I wear one I’m oppressed”…..Just more faux-victim whingeing.
Carolyne says
Where in the Koran is “Turtle neck” mentioned” Turtle necks are worn for warmth and comfort in winter, and have nothing to do with an eccentric old pedophile who lived in a cave the 7th century.
Ren says
The muslim turtleneck is a symbol of a doctrine of blood, stupidities and fascism.
mortimer says
Under DISCRIMINATORY Sharia law and according to K.33.59, women who are unveiled are ‘FAIR GAME’ to be ‘MOLESTED’.
The Arabic word means ‘MOLESTED’ in English… a common euphemism in English for rape.
We know from the hadiths, that Mohammed did nothing if his men raped a KAFIR. Women who are not Sharia-compliant are all considered KAFIRS.
Carolyne says
Mohammed himself was a rapist and murderer. He murdered husbands of women whom he desired to rape no matter what they wore. How repulsive and immoral can one get?
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam is not “modest”.
Garfield says
Her hijab s a statement that she thinks she is SUPERIOR to women who don’t cover their heads. It’s a statement that she is loyal to islam, a perverted suppressive cult it is a state!any that she think fgm is fine
Guess what? People are waking up. People are taquitos for what it is.
I do not need to be lectured and guilted for supposed double standards about modesty. Not from anyone and certainly not from a lying hypocrite. What does she have to say about bikinis? Beer? Bacon? dogs? Yet she wants tolerance.
Islam is a supremacist cult of hate. It is built on lies.
Fashion? She needs to talk about child marriage, honor killing ,rape and jihad. THAT is what I think of when I see an Islamic zombie in her slave bag. Not “fashion”.
Garfield says
Darn typos. Taquiyya not taquitos. But you all get the point. Apologies tho!
What a great day it will be when the whole world sees Islam for what it is!
At that point we will be free from it.
Islam is garbage. No one needs it. That woman is wasting her life and slave bags are UGLY.
Also
Who would want to dress to attract a man who demanded you wear one while he goes out and rapes children? Your head bag is his permission to rape uncovered females, is it not?
If you wear a slave bag/ head bag you want a man who demands that you wear one, right? So you also want all his other opressive hate filled beleifs. It’s not about “fashion”, is it!?
Wellington says
When I see a woman wearing a turtleneck I see a turtleneck and a turtleneck only.
When I see a woman wearing an hijab I see a sartorial equivalent of a swastika.
JawsV says
Hijab: A symbol of Islam. Why they’re hated.
Wellington says
Indeed, JawsV. And deservedly hated as all enemies of true freedom should be.
Yes, you wear or display something that your ideology of choice signifies that you are an enemy of freedom, you deserve to be looked upon in the negative. And Islam is as much an enemy of freedom as are Marxism and Nazism (hammer and sickle, swastika, hijab, etc.—all demonstrative of an inveterate hatred of real freedom).
Instructive, highly and damning so, how no apologist for Islam, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, ever accurately addresses the antipathy to liberty which Islam has stored up in its collective warped soul for going on a millennia and half now.
Norger says
“Instructive, highly and damning so, how no apologist for Islam, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, ever accurately addresses the antipathy to liberty which Islam has stored up in its collective warped soul for going on a millennia and half now.”
Well said. A combination of cultural relativism, post-Colonial self-flagellation (“white guilt),flat-out ignorance about what Islam in fact teaches, unwillingness to criticize the substantive ideology of a religion with so many followers—all stand in the way of a frank and open discussion of how Islam is completely antithetical to the western style freedoms we enjoy in the US.
The hijab the sartorial equivalent of a swatiska is a little harsh, but much closer to the mark than this woman’s claim that she is somehow “oppressed” when she wears a hijab.
Norger says
I know she’s complaining that she is perceived as “oppressed” when she wears the hijab; this woman is doubtless brainwashed into thinking that she wears the hijab by choice. The issue for many is that the hijab—which represents the idea that a woman must cover up or she’s asking to be raped—is symbolic of the threat that Islam itself poses to Western values.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
John Harvey says
Katebi says she’s wearing what she wants. She seems not to care that in some Muslim-majority countries a woman must cover up or risk social rejection or physical injury. Whether she knows it or not, then , her article implicitly praises Western freedom , including her ability to wear want she wants.
gravenimage says
So true, John.
somehistory says
‘Muslim American political fashion blogge”….Politics and fashion….Imo,that’s very weird pairing. If not a ‘moslim, her “fashion: wouldn’t be “political.”
she wrote: (or blogged)
“when Muslim women dress modestly, our taste and style is often overlooked. Or, to put it more bluntly, when you wear a turtleneck, you’re elegant; when I wear one I’m oppressed……
She doesn’t wear a “turtleneck.”
“Overlooked” and being “oppressed” are not the same. She wants to be noticed for her “modesty”…but alas, the general public doesn’t notice how “elegant” she is. Many ignore her…”overlooked,” and this is just unacceptable.
She should look up the word “modesty.” Here is one definition: the quality or state of being unassuming or moderate in the estimation of one’s abilities.
She may cover everything except her face and hands, but that is not “modesty.” it is making a show and if she lived in Iran, SA, or pakistan, etc., would likely find it to be oppressive.
Carolyne says
Nor does she have any taste or style. She wears the uniform of the oppressed woman, owned by men.
somehistory says
Cloak and Fashion: When a Museum Becomes a Tool for Islam
by Abigail R. Esman
Special to IPT News
May 8, 2018
https://www.investigativeproject.org/7433/cloak-and-fashion-when-a-museum-becomes-a-tool
Worth the read.
libertyORdeath says
From the fantastic link above:
“If we’re going to look at this from an Islamic perspective,” says Mohammed, “the reason women are supposed to dress that way is to avert the gaze of men. You’re supposed to look as unattractive as possible so that men don’t rape you. So the idea of Muslim fashion is a paradox, because Islamic clothing should not be fashionable; it should not be beautiful, it should not be on runways. It should be boring and ugly and make people not want to look at you. It’s the exact opposite of fashion.”
David says
Liberty, spot on. Hence the Burqa. How about a fashion show, with only black burqas.? Each one identical. BORING!!!. Perhaps the women should not be let out of the house at all?
libertyORdeath says
Again from the link above comes this frightening story…
Saudi Arabia’s religious police stopped schoolgirls from leaving a blazing building because they were not wearing correct Islamic dress, according to Saudi newspapers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1874471.stm
The fact that some girls and even worse, women, still think that this is HER fashion choice shows the terrifying effect that 1400 years of propaganda can have.
gravenimage says
Exactly–this murder is not “modest”.
Terra Nova says
Lady, you muslim women are dressed like you are, because YOU you have to RESTRAIN THE LUST OF YOUR MEN.Because when a man rapes you, you were not covered enough by your clothes, and YOU were the culprit, unless you have at least 3/4 witnesses. You are not dressed the way you are to be elegant, you couldn’t, even if you wished so. At least be honest about it, don’t hide why it is so.
Still want to play the victim,? You don’t have to play it, you ARE the victim, but by your own people.
We still live in a free country, and it has nothing to do with stupid or elegant turtle necks.
Think for yourself. Most of you are beautiful women, you suffocate your beautiful hair, and if you want to do that to protect the lust of men, I really feel sorry for you, but do not attack us in our own countries for it, go back to your own.
Joy says
I sometimes see so-called “women’s magazines,” and what I’ve seen recently is quite alarming, albeit – given the left’s “protection” of oppressive Muslim rules for women – not altogether surprising. In a word, even the world of “glamour” and women’s fashion has been invaded by the same Muslim scourge that is trying to destroy all our other Western institutions. There’s always the obligatory article about some woman “leader” of influencer in the muzzie world, and usually dressed in shariah-appropriate attire. But the craziest thing I’ve observed of late are ads by L’Oreal (whose parent company is Lancome of Paris) featuring hair products to make the hair lovely & manageable, etc. – but, of course, all of that “women’s glory” is hidden beneath the hijab (or is it niqab?)!! Talk about defeating the purpose of a product one is promoting!! FOOLS!! But the lesson here is that, little by little, the once-upon-a-time innocuous women’s magazines are slowly being turned into PC crap – mainly because their publishers & editors are in the vanguard of the enemedia – and not-so-subtly preach the world of PC and shariah!!
gravenimage says
Yes–utterly insane.
Linda Goudsmit says
This is the epitome of relativism – trying to equate two unlike things and make them alike. Women forced to wear hijabs being threatened with reprisal under sharia law is most definitely NOT the same thing as women freely wearing turtlenecks being protected by secular Constitutional law. Relativism is a deceitful strategy to make the unacceptable acceptable. BUYER BEWARE!
Politicianophobia says
You are oppressed. When I see women in ghost outfits, I think of all the things I taught my daughter about self respect, love, kindness, standing up for good. It is 2018. Maybe the Quran should state Muslim women are half the value of a man, not all women. You are what you are. Spare the world your horse pucky.
Linda Moon says
Slapping on a little makeup never hurts a female, although it’s most definitely prohibited under Sharia.
somehistory says
Many of them wear it, even putting it on little girls.
David says
Infidels have all the choice in the World, and muslims have no choice, except what the Koran dictates. I know what I prefer.
Alyn Starkman says
Women have been killed for not wearing a hijab. How many women have been killed for not wearing a turtleneck???? That is the difference you dumbass freak.
Politicianophobia says
With the number of Muslim Brotherhood infiltrators in the West, perhaps we should all start wearing thick, mesh collars under our turtlenecks so we won’t get our throats slit. How many times does it say slay them in the Qur’an?
Politicianophobia says
Hmmmm It is all about the clothes we wear –Will this be on CBC or CTV
A message from the Islamic Revolutionary Force
Yes we have destroyed your beaches, over the winter months with snowmobiles easily and effectively making them unsafe and all but usable.
We will destroy your beaches from Toronto to North Bay. We have started with the Muskokas and other tourists destinations. Your Northern towns extremely easy targets.
We do this because you reject Islam and follow the Great Satan. Infidels you allow your women to disgracefully, shamelessly parade around your beaches all but naked.
A Muslim woman would not even think to do this. Your women are whores with no shame and low morals. Yes we cannot pull off anything like 9-11. but we can destroy your tourists industry, hurt your people, de-rail your trains, poison your water supply, start devastating forest fires……
Infidels publish our warnings for all to see, reject the false religion of the Great Satan. Convert to Islam. Follow the teachings of the prophet Mohammed. Let the Koran speak to you. Either be with us or stand against us.
The IRF fight against the disgraceful and unjust religious persecution of Muslim Canadians and of the Islamic people throughout the world.
Hurt us, we hurt you, anyway we can. Praise Allah! God is Great!
IRF
Granddaddy says
“This country was literally built on the backs of Black slaves and after the genocide of indigenous people….”
Just for the record, this is a lie. Islam knows it. This Hoda Katebi person knows it. But for some reason, a lot of Westerners think it’s true. All Muslims are allowed to lie to everyone, even other Muslims. There is no reason to believe anything she says.
s says
When you wear an hijab you’re oppressed … when you engage in FMG you’re oppressed… when you are willing to murder those who do not subscribe to your worldview you’re pure evil….
gravenimage says
Muslim columnist in Glamour magazine: “When you wear a turtleneck, you’re elegant; when I wear one I’m oppressed”
…………………
What absolute crap. A turtleneck is not a Burqa, and no one was ever killed for not wearing a turtleneck. Would that we could say that of the Hijab.