What good is a watch list if no one is watching the people on it? Or are there just too many for French authorities to keep track of them all? The latter is a stated goal of the Islamic State: to overwhelm Western police and intelligence apparatuses, until they collapse. They’re well on their way to succeeding in doing this in France.
An update on this story. “Paris knife attack: Suspect ‘French citizen born in Russia’s Chechnya,'” BBC, May 13, 2018:
The suspect in a deadly knife attack in central Paris on Saturday evening is a French citizen born in 1997 in Russia’s republic of Chechnya, sources say.
Named by media as Khamzat Asimov, he was on a French watch list of people who could pose a threat to national security, the sources said.
Police shot dead the attacker in the busy Opéra district after he killed a man and injured four other people.
The Islamic State (IS) group said it was behind the attack.
French President Emmanuel Macron tweeted (in French): “France has once again paid in blood, but will not give an inch to the enemies of freedom.”
France has been on high alert following a series of attacks. More than 230 people have been killed by IS-inspired jihadists in the past three years.
What do we know about the attacker?The suspect was not carrying any identification papers and has not yet been officially named.
Sources told French media the man had no criminal record and his parents had been held for questioning. He is believed to be a French citizen who was naturalised in 2010….
Halal Bacon says
good thing he was watched and not water-boarded – we wouldn’t want to make him mad, er wait, too late
melek-ric says
So long as those on watch lists are managed via reactive rather than proactive measures, there’s no incentive for authorities to bother monitoring them. Apprehending, detaining and (best of all) deporting them before they commit violent acts would be the sensible procedures, but our human rights laws prevent such actions while simultaneously informing immigration policies that bring such people into Western countries to begin with.
Therefore, we’re doomed to see this kind of thing repeated endlessly, until we smarten up.
Johm says
Throw all the watched Muslims out of the country ! Now ! Do not wait for them to kill someone first ! They don’t belong there ! Britain is a bunch of fools for allowing their country to be islamitzed !
Simo Hayha says
“Paris: Muslim “Allahu akbar” knifeman was migrant from Chechnya, was on watch list”
Stop. Wait. WHAT? He WAS on a “Watch List?” Um, WHO was supposed to be “watching” this piece of human poop? My G*D, this category “Watching” is so effing COMMON almost apologetic, excusing the murderous violence of MUSLIMES, and politicians hem and haw, sigh, offer prayers and sympathy for the families whose father, brother, mother, son was violently and SAVAGELY MURDERED? WTF!
Does ANYBODY besides ME understand WHY UAE and Saudi Arabia REFUSE to allow ANY of these mental defectives to “escape ” violence in their sh*thole countries? Answer? THEY KNOW! They KNOW the consequences of allowing troglodytes into THEIR countries! Us? Europe? HAH! “They;re not dangerous! They’re in DANGER!” Yeah, RIGHT! YOU DUMB F**KS!
jihad3tracker says
Macron’s multi-culture idiocy ! Is there a recall option to get rid of him and have an emergency new national elections vote ?
JawsV says
No, Macron’s a huge problem. He defends Muslims and Islam.
Bacherbazistan says
Macron is a Rothschild minion.
dumbledoresarmy says
Why blame the Jews? (Dark references to ‘Rothschilds’ tend to boil down to that). That’s insane.
Why not blame the *real* culprit – OIC wielding petrodollar bribes? The Ummah has been *swimming* in cash since the 1970s and they have been using it to buy up influence on an *incredible* scale… they have spent far, far more on influence-buying than ever Soviet Russia did.
gravenimage says
Agreed, DDA.
Infidel says
MUSLIMS RIOTING IN THE CENTRAL INDIAN CITY OF AURANGABAD… The local authorities were pissed off at a mosque for not paying its water bills for a very long time. So they turned off its water and MUSLIMS RIOTED.. They just need a reason isn’t it even if they are in the wrong. Most Muslim businesses in Muslim ghettos of India DO NOT BOTHER PAYING OVERHEADS to the Govt. They just take and if the Govt asks them to pay up, THEY RIOT. But they are ALWAYS first in the line to claim benefits from all tax payer funded schemes..
https://www.financialexpress.com/india-news/maharashtra-shops-vehicles-set-ablaze-after-clashes-in-aurangabad-section-144-imposed/1164450/
nicu says
@ infidel : it’s in their blood – no matter how much they try to convince us that they are good people who will integrate !
On ESC France made a song for a ” poor refugee ” — you see how they say thanks .
gravenimage says
Disgusting. Jihad against water bills…
Seriously, Muslims believe that Infidels should pay them de facto Jizya.
Infidel lives matter says
French President Emmanuel Macron tweeted (in French): “France has once again paid in blood, but will not give an inch to the enemies of freedom.”
Nonsense. France voted for you.
Older Canadian says
In case you have not noticed is inch is actually a mile long.
Cicero says
Wow a witty riposte for the poster boy of aged declining Europe !
mortimer says
To be fair, France has banned the full face veil, something the US and the UK has not done.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is something.
Of course, the Niqab and Burqa are still pretty rare in the US.
Bacherbazistan says
Enemies of freedom – what freedom? There’s no freedom of speech anymore, the foundation of all other freedoms.
Robert_k says
The West Bank is now in Paris.
Older Canadian says
Yes, and throughout all of europe. Wait another few years, it msy even become worse.
Lu says
That always struck me: how quick our West is becoming West Bank – with each “migrant” (read: invader) is bringing a piece of his or her culture of violence and hatred to our lands.
The bottom line is: time is over, no solution to the problem exists when the West is honoring its constitutional and human rights.
The future is pretty dark I dare say.
Bacherbazistan says
In the same vein, Beirut used to be known as the Paris of the east & now Paris is the Beirut of the west. Paris the Beirut of the west – sounds like a great advertising slogan for the Paris Tourist Office.
Bacherbazistan says
and how about – celebrate Ramadan in Paris.
David M says
20,000 Muslims on the French watch list, so only 19,999 to go. Any one of these 20,000 can go off at any time, no way am I going to wander the streets of Paris.
https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwijr4mZ9oLbAhVFEbwKHQB3CygQFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fsputniknews.com%2Fanalysis%2F201803241062869961-thousands-muslims-watch-list%2F&usg=AOvVaw1roPj1poqvml4UQ-EtUTPp
Jason Klingor says
American Free Press http://www.americanfreepress.net
Lawrence says
Wow what a delusional rag that is. Pro-Assad, Jew hate, dhimmified through and through, commends Pat Buchanan the dhimmi Holocaust Revisionist on whatever he’s selling, has an article up there on some conspiracy that FDR was actually assassinated! So much more in that vein. Took me about thirty seconds to notice all that. Barely gotten started.
You a Ron Paul fan?
gravenimage says
Nasty stuff.
Crusades Were Right says
How about an ACTION list, France?
FYI says
According to Leftard Dhimmi World News he said something else..
“Alan’s?Yeah,let’s all go to ALA {PLANE OVERHEAD}ns sn{ELECTRIC DRILL}ACKBAR ”
So it couldn’t possibly have anything to do with islam….’cos that’s just being racist and islmophobic…
Ashley says
The dead suspect’s name is Khasan Azimov.
The authorities have taken his parents and a friend of Azimov’s into custody for questioning…
dumbledoresarmy says
And after being questioned they should be stripped of French citizenship status and deported back to Chechnya.
gravenimage says
+1
Walter Sieruk says
Those malicious and vicious knife attacks in Paris France by that jihad-minded Muslim reflects the teaching of the “holy book” of Islam, the Quran. As, for example, the Quran instructs in Sura 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Nevertheless, the apologists for Islam still have the gall to make the claim the “Islam is a peaceful religion.” What an outlandishly false claim to make
Walter Sieruk says
Those murderous Islamic terror Knife attacks of jihad-minded Muslim ISIS terrorist in the city of Paris further exposes the violent and deadly nature of Islam. Many times the jihadist members of different Islamic terror entities, as those of ISIS, have gathered together and chanted the words “We love death, they love life.” Likewise those jihadist/Muslims don’t stop with those awful words; they carry through with jihad suicide/homicide attacks. Any sane person would ask “Why do those jihad –minded Muslims have such a mindset of murderous madness?” The answer is that they obtain the way of thinking and believing from the “holy book” of Islam, the Koran. As some people call it the Qu ‘ran. For example the Koran in Sura 9:111 instructs “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Therefore it may be conclude that Islam is actually a death cult. In great and wonderful contrast to the death cult which is Islam there is Christianity which is centered on Jesus and His teachings. For Jesus did not teach killing and death but taught and gave life, a good peaceful well lived life and more. For example Jesus declared “I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10. [K.J.V.]
Indiana Tom says
“Allahu akbar” knifeman was migrant from Chechnya, was on watch list
But of course.
SSDD in France.
dumbledoresarmy says
All Islamoaware infidels in France, after this latest attack, should be protesting loudly and *demanding* that every last mohammedan currently on a ‘watch’ list – as this bloke was, and as others have been who have done evil deeds – should be stripped of French citizenship, or of French residency status, as applicable, and given the boot, back to the dar al Islam.
And for that matter, Islamoaware French need to be *demanding*, loudly and often, that ALL further Muslim entry into France should *cease*. Now.
And that ALL non-citizen Muslims be expelled; and all ‘citizen’ Muslims who have committed major crimes, or who are on jihad ‘watch’ lists, be expelled also…. or interned, pending a rejig of the laws to permit their expulsion.
Got Muslims? Got Mosques? GOT JIHAD.
Only way not to have jihad inside the gates – like this murderer with a knife running down a street in Paris knifing people and howling allahu-akbar – is.. .NOT TO HAVE MUSLIMS inside the gates.
revereridesagain says
Chechen. Muslim. On a watch list. Attacks “infidels” on public street with fatal results. Why does this sound familiar? Oh wait, something about Boston… a marathon…
Walter Sieruk says
This recent Jihad Islamic terror knife attack by that Muslim ISIS terrorist in Paris France is one of many such vicious malicious and murderous jihad attacks with the heinous Islamic intention of inflecting “great slaughter”, Sura 47:4, occur in the cities of the West. Such cities as New York City,London, Manchester Barcelona, Stockholm, Brussels, Stockholm, , Nice, Berlin, Madrid and so forth. Those jihad-minded Muslim terrorists who engage in those vicious Islamic terror attacks cannot be and will not be reasoned with. They will not respond to either logic or reason. They aren’t interested, at all, in reason or logic. So they have to be dealt with by a strong force of might. Either by the police or the military. For to even try to reason with a jihad-minded Muslim terrorist is just as much an act of futility as trying to teach algebra to a rabbit.
Walter Sieruk says
Those jihadist suicide/homicide Islamic terror knife attacker in Paris was committed by Muslim who was also called a ISIS mujahedeen, was a Muslim terrorists who was under the spell of Islamic deception, so much so, that those jihadists actually view their murderous attacks as “martyrdom operations.” This is because they firmly believe that they will have a paradise, for themselves, after they die in a jihad attack. This is how strong the influence of the deceptive power of the false religion of Islam can be. This delusional madness which results in death and destruction is, somewhat, explained in the following quotation by a Christian author.
“Muslims killed while waging jihad are often honored as martyrs. Also, the prophet Muhammad said that they would be guaranteed passage to paradise. Narrated Abu Huraira in Hadith 9:549:
‘Allah’s Apostle said “Allah guarantees to the person who carries out jihad or His Cause and nothing compelled him to go out but the jihad for His Cause and belief in His Words, that he will either admit him into paradise or return him with the reward or the bounty he has earned to his residence from where he came out.’ [1]
As for the first part of this above quote about a “guarantee’’ of entering into a paradise for a Muslim who dies fighting in the jihad is a falsehood and false doctrine of a “guarantee “. Which a both tragic and sad for many reasons as well as bogus way of God. For Jesus taught not the above but clearly did teach that He is the genuine and only way to heaven. For example, John 14:6 gives the very words of Jesus Which are “I am the way ,the truth, and the life: no one comes to the Father ,but by Me.”
[1] ISLAM AND THE BIBLE: WHY TWO FAITH COLLIDE BY David Goldmann page 122
762x51FMJ says
Their watch list is so they can let them in so they can watch them attack people.
WPM says
The watch list should be a deport list
dumbledoresarmy says
That should be slogan of Le Pen’s party, and of all other resistance bodies in France.
Tom says
What is the point of a watch list if all the authorities can do is watch as the radical commits his act of terror.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. It shouldn’t be a ‘watch’ list.
At the very least it should be an ‘internment’ list.
But preferably it should be a “deport” list.
DogOnPorch says
The media and authorities continues to be perplexed as to a motive…of course.
No Muzzies Here says
Looks like Macron’s middle of the road way of dealing with Muslims isn’t working. Marine Le Pen knew what to do.
JawsV says
Macron is useless. Like May in her hijab.
Ashley says
Looks like ISIS has proof…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/the-latest-paris-stabbing-victims-out-of-danger/2018/05/12/1aa5b9a8-564d-11e8-a6d4-ca1d035642ce_story.html?utm_term=.ad39805657c3
Ashley says
My eyes aren’t like they used to be. Do you think it could be the suspect?
https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2018/05/paris-knife-terrorist-swore-allegiance-to-isis-leader-before-attack.php
Walter Sieruk says
That recent malicious, vicious and murderous Islamic terror knife jihad attack in city of Paris, France by a jihad- minded Muslim of ISIS is a brutal reminder of the sad and tragic reality of jihad-minded Muslims engaging in Islamic suicide/homicide bombings attacks is for a large part, the outcome the extreme brainwashing that is performed in Islamic mind programming centers which are mosques and madrasas. In those jihad mind control places students are thoroughly indoctrinated into the jihadist mindset of committing murderous bombing attacks in the jihad for the advancement of Islam. As Islam’s “holy book,” the Quran instructs in 9:111. , for example, “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain they kill and are killed.” Therefore, those who come out of those Quran based mind programming centers .mosque and madrasas, are so terribly harmed and damaged that they are literally, as it has be rightfully called, “dangerous to self and others.” This results in jihad suicide /homicide attack in which those jihadists who commit such murderous actions are so very deluded that they think of that jihad mass murders as “martyrdom operations.” This is Islamic delusion of the most heinous and malicious kind.
This may be, somewhat, explained by the narrative from the fable of Aesop which is entitled THE SCORPION AND THE FROG So “Once upon a time there was a scorpion who really wanted to get to the other side of the river, but he could not swim. Therefore, the scorpion begged a frog to carry him on his back across the river. The kind but foolish frog agreed and then half-way across the river the scorpion stung the frog. In shock and horror the dying frog asks the scorpion “Why did you sting me since this means that we both are going to die” The scorpion replied “The reason that I stung you even though we both will now die is because that just what a scorpion, by nature, does.”
In conclusion, just as that scorpion in the fable had proven himself by the dangerous and deadly, to self and others, because of his nature. The violent and murderous jihadists of Islam are as that scorpion, dangerous so self and other because they is their nature because they have been thought programmed in the ways of the violent and murdering jihad of Islam. As always stated above ,this is the sad and tragic reality of Islamic terrorism in today’s world.
nicu says
A very popular journalist Peter Scholl – Latour said once : ! If you bring half of Kalkutta to your country , you will not save Kalkutta , but bring it to your country !
They turn everything into the shitholes they have escaped from !
PRCS says
+1
Confused Christian says
We all are now paying heavily with the blood of our kin in the West and gradual loss of basic freedom even to speak out regarding Islam for our humanitarian goodwill and great ignorance of Islam and Muslim mindset. It is time for all of us to speak out against the threat posed by adherent of this evil ideology called Islam. It is not a time for candle light vigils and laying of flowers!. It is now time to collectively take counter-measures such as educating and informing public about the most hateful aspects of the Islam and its bloody history.
JawsV says
That’s fine. But the public doesn’t want to hear.
jewdog says
I hope the cops enjoyed watching him. I wonder if they munched on popcorn while doing so, or doughnuts…
WPM says
The cops hands are tied by the government ,gun control, knife control, vehicle control the only solution is Moslem control, spread up deportation, arrests watch list Jihads before the go Jihad, and stop importing the virus of Islam.
Bacherbazistan says
His parents should be deported unless they can be charged with something. Then deport them after they’ve finished their jail time.
Crusades Were Right says
“watch list”
Remember that Simpsons episode in which Bart employs Milhouse as a night watchman in a factory he bought for a dollar? The next morning Bart finds it has collapsed in a pile of rubble. When he asks Millhouse to explain what happened, Millhouse says:
“I was watching. I saw the whole thing: First it started falling over, then it fell over.”
Sometimes “watching” isn’t enough.
MR MAHAMMED M QAYYUM says
There are over hundreds of thousands on the watch list that’s just the ones we know about there are all over in prison then you got Muslim population increasing over 50percent let’s not forget Muslim rape gangs all over Europe is pretty much doomed no hope even with war there will be chaos and destruction unlike the world has ever seen people are terrified .
gravenimage says
Are you saddened by this, or looking forward to it? This looks like preaching surrender.
TKF says
Different day…..same Islamic Jihad. Now go back to wringing our hands about Islamophobia.
Matthieu Baudin says
‘…French President Emmanuel Macron tweeted (in French): “France has once again paid in blood, but will not give an inch to the enemies of freedom.”…’
The problem for Macron and Merkel is that they do not have a Plan B. The same ineffectual watchlists, the same porous borders, the same postures of endless resolve following an attack. The public don’t need to back this faded approach to their security – in fact they are running out of patience with a political elite that grow more distant, arrogant and intransigent with every passing month.
JawsV says
French President Emmanuel Macron tweeted (in French): “France has once again paid in blood, but will not give an inch to the enemies of freedom.”
Empty rhetoric signifying nothing. Infidels will continue to be killed by Moslems in France and Macron will do nothing about it.
henrik jensen says
make the list public.
John Flaherty says
T’would seem that a ban on immigration from Islamic nations would be in order. There is not another competent means to keep would-be terror plotters from having the opportunity. It’s pretty obvious they have the will.
gravenimage says
Paris: Muslim “Allahu akbar” knifeman was migrant from Chechnya, was on watch list
………………….
We’re hearing this more and more. What the hell are these watch lists for, if the Jihadists on them are free to wage violent Jihad?