The Islamic State recently called on Muslims in Russia to murder Christians “as a punishment for their disbelief in Allah.” And here we are.
“BREAKING: 4 terrorist gunmen armed with petrol bombs storm church – multiple dead,” by Henry Holloway, Daily Star, May 19, 2018:
TERRORIST gunmen have stormed a church in Russia with multiple dead in a reported hostage situation.
Gunmen stormed the building in Grozny, Russia, in a bid to take hostages – killing two police officers and a churchgoer.
Interfax news agency reports the gunmen have been “eliminated” by security services in a fierce gunfight.
The Church of Michael the Archangel in Grozny, the capital of Russia’s Republic of Chechnya, was attacked this afternoon.
Mr Kadyrov said: “The militants entered St. Michael the Archangel’s Church, targeting to capture churchgoers.
“All four militants were eliminated in the held special operation.”
“According to the latest information, the militants received the order from a Western country.”…
mgoldberg says
They’re referred too as militants. They are not militants. They hare homicidal killers.
I wish media and people would properly identify such ‘people’.
aguysomewhere says
They are homicidal killers, but specifically islamic homicidal killers. The motive is important. Without islam what reason would they have had to commit this crime?
Atheist ain’t fans of churches but I don’t see atheists storming churches, neither the jews, not even the gays. There is only one ideology that teaches the killing of non members and that is islam. The false prophet muhammad genocided christians and jews, his actions became islamic theology. His role in islamis the problem, they see him as the greatest man who ever lived and as the supreme role model, with such a role model bloodshed is guaranteed.
Ray Jarman says
+1 islamists homicidal killers!!!!!
mgoldberg says
Yes… you are correct. My mistake. I meant post ‘Islamic homicidal killers but neglected the most important notation. Gladly corrected.
Jayell says
You mean the BBC actually reported this in the first place? And mentioned the ‘m’ word (muslim) in relation to these maniacs as well??
abad says
+1
Michael says
Right
BC says
At least they did not call them freedom fighters for Islam, which as we know is terribly oppressed and victimised! (sarc)
George says
They are MUSLIMS, obeying their religious elders.
J D S says
Another of a zillion reasons to make Islam illegal….don’t tell me it can’t be done…..oh it can’t be done as long as our elected officials are cowards and don’t don’t act. Of course this incident was in Russia but does anyone think it won’t happen elsewhere.
Islam is a religion (questionable) of violence and that makes a big difference.
No other religion FORCES people to JOIN and STAY.
Ben says
The penalty should be, to be buried alive in pig carcasses.
Charles says
Whoever Kadyrov is, his “targeting for (sic)” comment seems a bad translation casting doubt on his use of “militants”.
We should instead focus on the kernel of the story: energetic response from an often demonized (for shame, Western media!) regime that is much more friendly to Christians than that poor excuse of a pope whose role in the sacking of Ratzinger is still not clear,
Allie says
Now … did you really believe Russia was going to put them in jail, debate their innocence or guilt, or maybe let them go free?
No…. Russia killed them!!
All four militants were eliminated in the held special operation.”
Russia didn’t turn to get anyone’s opinion on a damn thing. The world didn’t know until it was over and they were dead. There cannot be a double standard for Israel. Israel is the smallest country and minority in the Middle East.
Maxine says
Yes, Exactly that is what I was going to say. Russia is not going to tolerate these Terrorist Killers and give them a trial and tell them their Rights, like the stupid US what we have going on here. America needs to take Note!
gravenimage says
Putin has allowed Chechnya to become a Shari’ah state. The idea that Russia is tough on Islam is far from the case.
Clive Stephen DelcCmonte says
Russia is making new Islamic friends in Syria, Turkey and Iran. This is just the beginning of what’s in store for them.
christianblood says
Clive Stephen DelcCmonte
No, Russia is backing the legitimate, secular government of Syria, a government that protects millions of Christians and other minorities from the US and Saudi-backed barbaric, head-chopping islamic jihadists and Turkey is a member of the US-led Nato.. Watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THO9672lRNQ
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“… the jihadist don’t recognize the ceasefire in Syria and they are only using to regroup.”
-How very Mohammadan of them.
“US instructors arrived to teach the radicals how to use this new state-of-the-art equipment.”
-As Lee Stranahan has claimed many times, US taxpayer dollars are being used to kill Christians in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq.
Israel, much to it’s own long-term deteriment is allying itself with Mohammadan states. In this, Israel has turned the US into its lapdog and has it doing its bidding: it has successfully gotten the US to duplicitously back these murderous rebels, all for the short term goal of getting Assad out of power. In the meantime, Christians and other minorities are at risk. Do you think Israel and its backers in the US (neocons) care about those Christians and minorities?
christianblood says
Flavius Claudius Iulianus posted
(…US instructors arrived to teach the radicals how to use this new state-of-the-art equipment.”-As Lee Stranahan has claimed many times, US taxpayer dollars are being used to kill Christians in Lebanon, Syria and Iraq….Do you think Israel and its backers in the US (neocons) care about those Christians and minorities?…)
Flavius, Neither the US, Saudi Arabia, Nato nor Israel would care if their islamic jihadist buddies massacre millions of Christiana and other minorities in Syria who are now protected by Assad and in fact, that is what they wish to happen. I believe, Hezbollah has MORE Honor in Jesus’s face than the US and its Anti-Christ allies because Hezbollah protects Christians in Lebanon and Syria from the genocidal US-backed jihadists that want to annihilate them. Please see the pictures below and see Hezbollah is protecting Christian Shrines from the barbarity of the US and Saudi-backed jihadists:
https://thesaker.is/a-very-telling-picture-of-a-hezbollah-fighter/
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Hezbollah will never be “the good guys” in my eyes. They are just another jihadi group like all the other jihadi groups. (You seriously want me to believe they are good guy; they have a bunch of weapons on their flag?) If they protect one over another then it is nothing more than a temporary maneuver to hide their true nature. To be perceived as not being the vile people they are. Soon or later they will revert to what they really are.
This whole mess comes from the bad habit that the American intelligence agencies got into when the CIA drove the Russians out of Afghanistan by backing the Mujahedin. They created a monster that came back and bit the US. And they didn’t learn their lesson. They keep using the same method and it never comes out good.
The West should NOT be dealing with, much less backing, any of these murderous groups!
gravenimage says
Notice that the appalling “Christianblood” has *nothing* critical to say about these fine Jihadists slaughtering churchgoers.
He has said before that he has no problem with Muslims waging violent Jihad in Russia–and I guess this is true. He has said that he only hates the United States, because of gay parades. *Good grief*.
underbed cat says
The world has trouble when muslims migrate to nuclear powers….and they are placated or not recognize as a borderless enemy that spreads it’s tentacles and is never peaceful….so why are the major powers allowing this, or siding with any sect. that brings, underhanded cash, terror, deception and/ or jihad.? All they have to do is read the ideology instead of listening to the deceivers.
Jan Aage Jeppesen says
“According to the latest information, the militants received the order from a Western country.”…
But not from a Western government I hope! 😉
Indiana Tom says
This is just deflective propaganda. Russia blames everything on the West.
gravenimage says
True, Indiana Tom.
christianblood says
Jan Aage Jeppesen
I am hundred 100% sure that this order to attack a Russian church came from a Western government and extremely likely from the CIA. You Remember this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9RCFZnWGE0
underbed cat says
Incredible the lack of knowledge about the true nature of Islam…he said all the right words to the fighters, but they may have viewed this man as an infidel that would never lead them….even if the speaker thought they would, this strikes me as extremely sad. Muslims will fight muslims only when they decide.
gravenimage says
This is ludicrous calumny. Muslims in Chechnya have been waging violent Jihad against Russia for years.
Walter Sieruk says
The Christian author, William Wagner,, in his book which is entitled HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANGE THE WORLD had explained on page 155 about a meeting that he had with a Muslim cleric , which reads “Several years ago one Imam told me that ,prior to 1990, the greatest enemy to Islam was Communism but now it is the Christian missions.” Further, on page 208 the Wagner had written about some zealous Muslims that “They have failed to stop Christian missions. They see Christian missions as their number one enemy.” On the very next page the reader is informed that “Christianity remains the number one buffer against Islam, a fact readily recognized by those who seek a world wild ummah.” [1]
Ummah – The community of all those who affirm Islam.
Val kayer says
The Qutb kafir murdering jihad ideology (MBH, Al Queada, ISIS, Hamas, etc) combined communism and facist ideology about 100 years ago.
Ross Lloyd says
The Soviet Union actually provided the umbrella that enabled Islam to thrive under its protection… Hence my novel “:For Anastasia”…
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
And yet the Ba’athist party provided some of the most stable secular states in the middle east … until they were overthrown by a certain other country. The Ba’athist tyrants kept the fundamentalists under control so that a secular state could exist.
I’m sure your novel is excellent fiction; I might pick it up some time.
christianblood says
(…According to the latest information, the militants received the order from a Western country…)
No surprise here, just like they did in Afghanistan in the eighties and then in Bosnia, in Kosovo, in Libya or now in Syria, US is ordering its jihadist buddies to carry out bloody jihad attacks in and around Russia! It wouldn’t surprise me if this latest jihad attack on the Orthodox Church goers in Grozny came directly from John Bolton!
Ernie says
Oh , come on ” christian blood “, you’re sounding delusive right now . Really , I thought you had more brains . I have the impression you’re being paid for smearing and accusing Western countries , for creating enmity . You are an ” agent provocateur “.
Stacy Girl says
And a poor one at that.
christianblood says
Ernie
First of all, Good to hear your voice again after a while, Ernie! Are things all right? Ernie, it is undeniable that the US and the West love, support, arm and train genocidal islamic jihadist groups and they did this in all the countries that I pointed above and even more countries. Right now, US and the West are trying very hard to depose president Assad of Syria who is protecting millions of Christians and other minorities and they are hopping the bloody and the satanic islamic jihadists they are supporting will replace him eventually. That is AN UNDENIABLE FACT, Ernie! Please watch the video clip below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfXSYkFZPKM&feature=youtu.be
Indiana Tom says
Well, Osama Obama the Caliphate In Chief of the Arab Springs might have, but he is now gone. Assad’s biggest problem is Assad.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Are you aware of everything that the elite in your country are up to? I doubt it. Look at all the mud slinging at Trump that the American elite are engaged in. It’s unbelievable; I thought Americans respected their standing President! Why are the elite slinging mud at Trump? Because they didn’t get to pick him. He’s the little people’s choice.
And the elite know you won’t call them out on all their misdemeanors. Why? Because it’s easier for you to mindlessly cheer, “go team go!”
Stop providing cover for criminals who think nothing of desecrating their flag with their criminal actions (all in order to line their pockets).
Cicero says
Very well spoken
Ernie says
Well , ” christianblood “, it wouldn’t surprise me if you are being paid for spreading lots of nonsense here .
christianblood says
Ernie
The truth is that the satanic, materialistic and anti-Christ West loves, supports and backs islamists even genocidal islamic jihadists to further their own satanic, Hollywoodized, liberal imperialist agenda and only a FOOL would deny this undeniable fact, my friend… Ernie, just two decades ago, the satanic, pro-ISIS Nato, led by the US bombed Christian Serbs and sided with barbaric islamic Kosovar and Bosnian muslim jihadists and created two islamic states (Bosnia & Kosovo) in the heart of Europe. Ernie, if the satanic, Anti-Christ West is not pro-jihadist why would they keep doing such a thing again and again and again and again???
Please watch the video clip below and see what the US and Western-backed genocidal jihadists did to hundreds of ancient Christian churches and monasteries in Metohija, Serbia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHSav7TbYBM
Indiana Tom says
Wife is Croatian. Nobody in the Balkans is lily white. Of course Slick Willie Commie Clinton was Commissar at that time and was kissing Saudi rear ends in exchange for favors and money. USA really had no business in the balkans and neither did anybody else.
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” has also been lauding the Jihadists Hizb’allah here.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#/media/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement-en.svg
Buraq says
@ christianblood
You’re a clown! D’ya think John Bolton has a higher or equal authority with Allah’s eternal commands in Al Qur’an? Allah commands Muslims for all eternity to ‘… fight until all religion, all of it, is for Allah’. (Al Qur’an)
With a savage god like Allah around, devout Muslims don’t need encouragement from any other quarter.
I think you need a transfusion, christianblood, you’re intellectually anemic!
christianblood says
Buraq
See John McCain meeting with Al-Bagdadi and other jihadist leaders in Syria:
https://i1.wp.com/theduran.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/mccain-b.jpg?resize=1024%2C722
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Ad hominem attack. You lose the debate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#/media/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement-en.svg
Aaron says
Is there any evidence or just wishful thinking
Prabh says
http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/the-wests-grooming-of-radical-islam-part-1/
This series of articles by Ranvir Singh is informative.
elmatador says
last year in Texas an atheist did a massacre at a church
CogitoErgoSum says
Glad to see the punishment went to those who would defile a church. Michael the Archangel lead the army that kicked Satan out of heaven. He’s the patron saint for people in the military. Good job guys. Always remain faithful to the One most deserving. Michael must be smiling …. and since he is sometimes also known to serve duty as an Angel of Death …. he may have shown these four Muslims the way to their final abode.
CogitoErgoSum says
I should have used “led” instead of “lead.” I hate it when I do that. Sometimes I do it with “it’s” and “its” too. (I’m trying.)
Voytek Gagalka says
With so many Mohammedans living in Russia it is only matter of time when jihadis between them will strike. Here they come, again! And what Putin can do about it? Nothing. While he cleverly seems to secure Russia from jihadis having root in Iran, others are still more willing to fulfill the gap.
gravenimage says
Putin’s allowing Chechnya to become a Shari’ah state has not helped.
elee says
Different continent, same story
Peterson says
I am happy that this happened in Russia. Putin will roast all those behind it and it will not come in the media.I wish it come in media too because it feels good to see Putin in action
gravenimage says
I don’t want to see *any* Infidels murdered by Jihadists.
abad says
There is NOTHING peaceful about a religion that demands its followers to kill non-believers.
Islam can not now nor ever be a religion of peace.
Lydia Church says
More ramadan ‘festivities’ brought to you by…. the religion of “peace”…. oh wait, that’s religion of pieces!
Rarely says
There is a serious re-writing of History going on here. A mixture of wishful thinking, religious hogwash, conspiracy theories, erroneous projection of motives and pure fantasy have taken over this site. We find the West killing God, Russia in a spiritual revival that will save the World, Putin is naïve, Russia doesn’t understand the Islamic threat. (Remember that “minor” theater disturbance a few years ago?) Hollywood promoting Jihad, ISIS taking marching orders from the U.S. and Assad as some sort of savior rather than the murderous villain he has proven himself to be. We even have Russia supporting Assad to protect its navel (sic) base someplace or other while Syria is a land-locked country. It has even been suggested that most people on JW know the truth about islam but the western gov’ts don’t. THE sad thing is that they DO KNOW and aren’t taking a tough enough stand. (Hurray for Italy!!!)
The Duran and Alex Jones are not very reliable sources for anything.
There is a terrible intolerance shown which rivals anything I’ve heard from the hard left (which I abhor).
It’s no wonder the site is viewed by some as promoting bigotry and that Robert Spencer is taking the flack for that (although I have never seen him personally promote any of this).
And we accuse the media of fake news while taking little pieces of History, misrepresent the surrounding circumstances and spit out some weird conspiracies.
For the record, anyone who sees Hollywood as anything other than a collection of flakes is delusional. It is ridiculous to take them seriously on any topic.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
You have a right to your opinion.
By the way, history is constantly being rewritten. Sometimes those in the moment are not privy to all the facts. Some facts come to light and history is rewritten. Sometimes there is an over-correction and it needs to be rewritten again. And let’s face it, all histories are biased.
But we’re not writing history here. We are engaging in open discussion and debate in an attempt to get to a truer story of what is going on. If you or anybody finds that a promotion of bigotry … well its exactly the opposite. Bigotry is an intolerance to differing *opinions.* (Look it up if you don’t believe me.)
CogitoErgoSum says
Robert is a big believer in freedom of speech so he lets people say what they want on this site. If people get their feelings hurt by reading some of the comments here, they should skip over the ones they don’t like or just stay away. Coming here is strictly voluntary and so is reading the comments.
R Russell says
Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.
Clive Stephen Delmonte says
Russia has been making new friends in Iran, Syria and Ramallah and is now reaping the whirlwind.
gravenimage says
It’s grimly true that Putin has been playing footsie with Iran and other unsavory Muslims–but this is not why Jihadists are targeting Russia. They have been doing this for many years.
Prabh says
http://www.hinduhumanrights.info/the-wests-grooming-of-radical-islam-part-1/
Informative series of articles by Ranvir Singh.