How wonderful. How sweet and charitable and generous and loving. Maybe the Muslims who go to this mosque once it is built will look upon their Christian neighbors with gratitude, and treat them kindly. More likely, however, they will see the Christians’ generosity as their due, since the Qur’an commands Muslims to fight against the “People of the Book” and force them to pay the jizya, a tax from which Muslims are exempt. So non-Muslims paying money to Muslims is the divinely-ordained order of things, and doesn’t exempt these Christians from the general commands Muslims have in the Qur’an to wage war against and subjugate unbelievers. It is conceivable that the Muslims who go to this mosque could one day attack and destroy the church whose people collected money to build the mosque, and they will do so because they believe this is what the Qur’an tells them to do, and Christians being nice to them doesn’t mitigate the Qur’anic command.
The Swedish church in Nacka is the Christian Church today in microcosm. All denominations. This is today’s Christianity. This is the Christianity of Pope Francis, and former Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch Gregory III Laham, and Worcester, Massachusetts Roman Catholic Bishop Robert McManus, and Rick Warren, and so many other clerics who think that if they ignore and deny the problem of Muslim persecution of Christians, and pursue their chimerical and fruitless “dialogue,” that all will be well, and that those who tell the truth about what is happening are a continuing danger to the Church.
Well, they have the Church they want now, and as the years go by, it will become clear to everyone what they have done, and what unimaginable damage and destruction they have enabled.
“Leave them; they are blind guides. And if a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.” (Matthew 15:14)
“Swedish Church collects money for mosque construction at Fisksätra, Stockholm,” Save My Sweden, May 2, 2018 (thanks to Blazing Cat Fur):
The planned common building is called “God’s house” and is estimated to cost 39 million, an amount the church is now attempting to collect through a foundation. Critics have questioned whether the church should really build mosques and if it should instead focus on the Christian faith.
The plans to build this so-called “God’s house” in Fisksätra, Nacka municipality in southern Stockholm, began to be formulated in 2009. Fisksätra is an immigrant area with a large Muslim population. The following year, the pastor and former bishop of Karlstad, Bengt Wadensjö, presented the project in a debate article in Svenska Dagbladet. He initially refers to the Swedish Democrats:
“When the fear of the unknown, in the form of Islam in Sweden, gives a profile in the news flow with the Social Democrats political party taking place in the parliament, I want to highlight a completely different picture of Sweden. Jimmie Åkesson wrote in the Aftonbladet on October 20, 2009 that ‘the Muslims are our biggest foreign threat’. In Nacka, we do not think immigrants or Muslims would be a threat. They are an asset. ”
Bengt Wadensjö said that Muslims and Christians were united in the sense that God is one and that “Muslims are generally peaceful and honest” and that the project would mean “world peace begins in Fisksätra”.
The idea is that the mosque will be built next to the church and united with it through a jointly locked foyer. The Muslim Assembly has bought the land needed at the cost of 300,000, an amount that will not be paid until the project is completed.
Criticism against the plans has been loud and powerful.. As soon as the project was announced, the decision to set up a fundraising foundation was appealed to Stockholm’s chapter of judgment, stating that it was indeed contrary to the basic task of the Church of Sweden.
However, the judgment chapter decided that the project certainly fell within the Christian scope of task and rejected the claim. The question then went on to the Swedish Church Appeals Board, which agreed on the same decision as the Domapitlet.
New times spoke with Carl Dahlbäck, who is a church leader in the Nacka parish and one of the driving forces behind the project. Regarding the major criticism that the construction of a mosque is hardly connected to the core of the Church, he explains:
“Core activity for the church is a message of peace, living in peace and peace with all people of all kinds, both believers and unbelievers. It must be a core business. That’s what we both do and plan for. Good religious meetings, you can say. But this is not just a house for believers, but a house for all people.”
The church’s budget for building the new building amounts to SEK 39 million, which is to be collected by contributions. When the fundraising foundation was formed, the current housing minister Mehmet Kaplan (MP) and LO’s former chairman Wanja Lundby-Wedin were on the board. Nacka Township, including Fisksätra, also applied to Stockholm’s 1.5 million Foundation for the sub-financing of the 3.2 million people, hoping that they would invest in promoting the project and the collection. The Board of Directors rejected this by seven votes against six.
Among those who voted for the financial contribution, is the bishop of Stockholm’s letter, Eva Brunne, who later resigned due to the rejection and announced that she continues to encourage and pray for the project.
In November 2014, the Nacka Assembly took the controversial decision to transfer testimony funds to the fundraising fund, in other words, money from the deceased who wanted to support the Church of Sweden. This decision was also appealed to the Dom chapter, which again rejected this protest. For New Times, Carl Dahlbäck explains how he views the criticism of the use of this money:
“There are different views on everything, and indeed to be expected, of course. But in terms of this initial capital, it was a testament to ABB shares, which we received from an unknown person. It was not intended for any particular purpose but we found it to be very timely as there was no money from church fees and our members, but we recieved [sic] it unreservedly and we could give it a good purpose.”…
somehistory says
True Christians would never do this. Jesus said those who “are not with me are against me.’ The Apostle Paul said not to have a “sharing with demons”
They may as well just give over their own building to the moslims. Using their position in the community to raise money for a barracks where plans are made…and sometimes bombs…and “prayers” are said to satan for the murder of Jews and Christians, is evil work.
Lydia Church says
They betray Jesus with 30 pieces of silver… or less… all over again.
But after reading the article and comments I must stop and say; “PRAISE THE LORD!”
that people are waking up and getting it.
Exactly! There is a big picture and the invasion of islam is just one piece of the puzzle.
Before getting into details let me say again; don’t ever turn away from Jesus!
The Bible is true and I see proof of it every day as the prophesies are being fulfilled.
The Jesus of the Bible is real, and His love is real.
So many look to events and experiences and their bubbles are shattered over things like abuse in the church and sadly they turn away from God. But don’t let that happen to you! Turn to Jesus and read the Bible and I say that because I love your soul and feel His love for people and my heart yearns within me… if only they would just come to Him and His embrace and let all else fall away! The pain of the past and so on, He heals our hurt and scars and gives us the strength to carry on.
Which reminds me… I was going to ask if some of these people are still around because I notice I don’t see their names popping up anymore and I hope you are all okay. I know this is unpleasant work and many can only face it for so long. True as that is, I know God has me here for a reason.
Now on with it!
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Yes, the church at large has been compromised. It is a stealthy well plotted take over and includes all denominations. The church has entered the ‘Great Apostasy’ that was prophesied for the end times. It has many aspects to it. But ecumenism is a big one. I have an eye and an ear all around and the ‘unity’ bells are being rung to no end. Now if it were true unity, great! (Yes, there is only one gospel, the one Jesus left us with in the Bible.) But they don’t care about truth, they sacrifice it on the altar of unity. Why? Because they are building the end times one world ‘church’ which is actually the harlot of Revelation. The harlot embraces the beast (antichrist), while the virgin bride (true church) honors the Bridegroom; Jesus. It is like ‘a tale of two kingdoms’ in the church. That is where all the church mouth pieces are leading the flock, like rick warren.
Anyway, that unified church whole will join with the ‘one world religion’ through various interfaith events. All in the name of ‘peace, harmony, unity, tolerance, brotherhood, love,’ etc. while betraying the body of Christ unto death.
The one world government is another tentacle of the globalist octopus. So is the one world economy (mark of the beast, it is the chip that will be implanted to buy and sell, and it’s already here, it’s just not mandatory yet). We see the signs of it all around. Mass migration. Calls for borderlessness, no walls, etc. Maligning national sovereignty. Attacking freedom of speech, the press, religion, assembly, human rights in general for the coming tyranny. Everything is being synced, we see it here in the US; national health care, national education standards, so they can control top down. The confiscation of guns (protected by the 2nd amendment in the Constitution), censorship of the truth, the list goes on. Most, if not all countries are on board, even the last few stubborn holdouts like north korea are coming in and that’s what they need.
Keep in mind, all of this will not be a good thing but under the rule of evil and the antichrist as the Bible says will be in the end times. We know we are in the end times since Israel is back in the land.
Revelation 13 talks about a one world religion, government, and economy under antichrist. True Christians will be persecuted and killed as martyrs for not compromising with sin and false religion.
We get closer every day. The whole world has their cross hairs of the target on us, born again Christians. We see evil taking over the world in the name of ‘change’ and ‘revolution’ against ‘old norms.’
How do we win and what is the key? That seems to be the question I see all over lately in comments. The thing is, we can’t change what God has said will happen. We can only choose our role in it. Like an opera, there are roles to fill. Jesus has won the victory and that is true whether I die as a martyr or live out a peaceful life on earth. But how am I a victory? By remaining loyal to Jesus and His commands, and not denying Him! In Revelation, Jesus ‘makes a big deal’ about being an ‘overcomer.’ Due to twisted meanings in things like contemporary Christian music, that meaning is obfuscated. An Overcomer is one who has totally surrendered to Jesus, to God’s will, at the expense of self. You have died to your ego, sacrificed ‘personal gain’ on the altar of God and His will. You don’t care what people think, what the cost is to follow Jesus, and if threatened with torture and death you know you won’t deny Him. You love Him more than your life and all that is in it. You have overcome the world, sin’s grip on you, the devil’s power over you, and all the world has to offer. Jesus gives us this power to overcome. Like the martyrdom of Stephen or any that came after him, it may not look glorious in the eyes of the onlooking world. But from heaven’s perspective, it is! And what Stephen saw, I can assure you, was glorious. See Acts 7, Jesus usually is described as sitting at the right hand of the Father, but read what it says!
More details in next comment.
Lydia Church says
Main traits of the apostasy of the church:
1. Betraying the truth, doctrines of the Bible and Christian faith, and sweeping it all under the bed. They turn from absolute truth to ‘subjectivity’ on things that are absolute and not subjective.
2. Villifying anyone who stands up for the truth of the Bible, exposes heresy, calls out sin, compromise with the world, etc. and calling them names for telling the truth. We are thrown ‘under the bus.’
3. Putting unity above truth. They forget that our unity is around the truth! This leads to the apostate compromised one world church of the end times.
4. Ecumenism with apostate denominations for the sake of ‘unity.’
5. Unity with false religions and interfaith leanings, all leading the church into the arms of the one world religion under antichrist.
6. Pagan practices that lead one to embrace other religions (which of course, are false).
7. Sinful ‘church growth’ movements that compromise and instead of winning the world to the church, they win the church to the world. Sin and false teachings are glorified and embraced. Nothing else is accomplished. Other than unsaved people warming the pews and lining the wallets of the church leaders (harlotry). Business strategies are used and turn the church into a harlot for money and no one is saved, only new and old are corrupted by these practices. It is not a worship service, it is a rock concert with all the filth of the wicked world.
8. They abandon the warnings of the end times prophesies and coming judgment and the promise of Jesus’ return, after which He brings the kingdom and restores ‘paradise.’ We cannot remove the curse or undo the fall of man into sin. But they have embraced ‘dominionism,’ thinking that they can ‘usher in the kingdom of God,’ while stepping over the whole of end times events such as Armageddon. Instead of ‘bringing or building the kingdom of God,’ they will be embracing the kingdom of antichrist.
9. They all call for a global ‘revival,’ yet without repentance. This ‘revival’ will only be the onset of the one world religion and its ‘golden calf festival’ frenzy.
10. ‘Oneness.’ They will claim that ‘all is one,’ any separaters (like true Christians, who MUST separate from all of this) will be eliminated. They will unite all religion, all ideologies, all nations, all peoples, and embrace all sin. They will deny the sinfulness of sin. They will deny the punishment of hell and its reality.
11. They will claim that all is one and all is ‘divine.’ This is ‘pantheism,’ which is also gaining ground in the church at large. Yet only God is divine.
12. They will deny the need to repent, be reconciled to God, that there is only one way to be saved, and that it is through Christ’s atonement on the cross. They will falsely claim that ‘all is saved,’ or will be, or something to that effect (there are variations). They deny the need for the cross, the need to be saved, and on top of that, that all is ‘divine’ already! They deny the truth in all these things. Such blasphemy! They deny the crux of the Gospel, just like the Bible says they will!
Beware and stay away from this church of the end times!!!
Lydia Church says
Remember, avoid anything having to do with pope francis, that is a sure fire way to be careful.
Leon Degney says
Do you think you could take a break from you preaching Lydia? It’s quite monotonous.
gravenimage says
I think the people at this church are more clueless than evil. Still dangerous, though.
somehistory says
Peter was zealous and also impulsive. He couldn’t imagine that Christ would die as He had said He would do. But when he actually saw that Jesus had spoken what was completely truthful, and as he matured in the good news, he showed great spiritual discernment.
Recall in the Book of Acts, chapter 3 when the crippled man by the pool asked for “alms”, Peter told him, “Silver and gold i do not have, but what I have I give to you.” and then Peter healed the man in the Name of Jesus Christ.
moslims are in a spiritually sick condition. Most of them seem to like it that way. But if the people who go to that church, or any church, wish to “help” the moslims, they should preach the truth about Christ to them. Giving them money to build a barracks where lies will be preached and death of innocent people called for is only helping them stay spiritually sick.
And, it makes the one who says he believes in Christ a “sharer in the wicked works.” You can’t help someone who is sick to get well by breathing in their germs.
CogitoErgoSum says
Somehistory, what you say is true. Muslims are spiritually sick people. These Christian Mosque builders are like the physician who gives a sip of water to a sick child and then leaves it still burning with a fever at the side of the road to find its own way home. The child may survive but with serious brain damage for the rest of its life. It may also spread its disease across the land.
J D S says
Well what can one expect…..this is Swedeistan….Satan is smiling and God is shedding tears.
dan christensen says
Because of the many muslim migrants in Sweden that need to be fed and clothed, the Swedish pensioners must starve.
How about collecting money for the Swedish victims of mass immigration, so that they may afford to eat normal food every day instead of canned pet food ?
Ann says
Do you have links for what Swedish pensioners are going through? Would be great to circulate them. I’ll search online, but who knows what we find these days.
I saw a news report – think it was in Germany – that what we call a “Welcome Wagon” in the U.S., where vans of meals are brought around to the homes of seniors – this van in the news, was raided by street migrants who literally pushed the senior citizens out of line for their own food!
This needs to be viral.
Linda says
That is appalling.
Keith Jordan says
“Welcome Wagon” has nothing to do with meals for seniors. It delivers coupons to new homeowners, and has done so for many years.
J D S says
Not welcome wagon..that was meals on wheels that does this.
gravenimage says
Here’s another awful story from Sweden about migrants and seniors:
“Disrespectful migrants attack Swedish pensioners and hit elderly man in the face”
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/04/disrespectful-migrants-attack-swedish-pensioners-and-hit-elderly-man-in-the-face/
Save Europe says
….and how about reversing the retirement age, and lowering it from 67, just to pay for these monetary invading parasites.
Fred says
You can’t appease them. You will only entitle them.
Linda says
This is what puts me off Christianity. Christians can be so strict with their own people and yet fall all over Muslims as though they can do no wrong when the Muslims would kill them all given half a chance.
somehistory says
The people you describe are not “Christians.” They may claim to be, but their fruit proves otherwise. Jesus said we can recognize what kind of person someone is by their “fruits.”
He also said, “By this all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love among yourselves.”
Linda says
To me, it looks as though the Pope and all of the churches, whatever denomination, that pander to Muslims, are doing their congregations and even Jesus Christ a great disservice.
Indiana Tom says
it looks as though the Pope and all of the churches,
No it looks as though, ,It is.
Linda says
We’re in dire straits then.
Indiana Tom says
Yes, the Church Leaders fall all over themselves to defend Islam and admonish their followers if they attack it. I have experienced this first hand.
Linda says
I think we can thank the ecumenical movement for this turn of events.
Stacy Girl says
As have I. Today I went to mass in a resort town we frequent. Memorial Day, or Decoration Day weekend. The new priest here was very faithful and on fire. I met him afterwards: a convert from Bangladesh. If I were back home at my Marianist parish the sermon would have been about migrants and melting ice glaciers. I still feel good about hearing this man teach and listening to him sing Glory Hallelujah!
gravenimage says
Not all Christians are like this, Linda.
Wellington says
Bad idea.
Timothy says
If it gets to the time when their Christian church is being destroyed it won’t be just the church. The entire community of men will be massacred with the women taken as sex slaves and the children converted.
Abe Bird says
What’s Next? Will all the Swedes convert to Islam?
Just crazy !
VRWC member77 says
Ah yes, don’t make the “believers” angry.
“Core activity for the church is a message of peace, living in peace and peace with all people of all kinds, both believers and unbelievers……..”
The irony this despicable vile dhimi MORON doesn’t understand is that he’s one of the “unbelievers”…….kuffar harbi.
The Discoverer says
No worries, folks. Europe is crashing along with Islam. See “How Civilizations Die” by David Goldman and “The Strange Death of Europe” by Douglas Murray. By the end of this century, nothing will be the same. Demography is destiny. In Iran, the Total Fertility Rate has crashed from 7.0 to 1.7 in just 30 years. It took the EU two centuries to hit that mark. It is Islam’s collision with modernity. And in the case of the EU, Christianity’s decline, due also to modernity. People are no longer willing to have enough children to continue the civilization.
Linda says
I can’t see where people breeding like rabbits is the only way a civilization can survive. People with less children, can still maintain their civilization, only on a smaller scale. Who said we have to over-populate the planet to survive as a civilization anyway?
b.a. freeman says
U are correct, of course, Linda, but if there is *another* people that is breeding like rabbits, they are destined to replace those who don’t breed at all (or not enough to keep up, anyway). that’s just arithmetic, along with some exponential growth thrown in. sooner rather than later, sharia will be implemented and enforced, and european civilization will be as defunct as ancient roman, greek, sassanian, and carthaginian empires are now. in fact, because islam is a pirate cult, designed by a 7th-century gang-banger to run a gang and attract new thugs, it is a gangsta cult. U know all those nasty murders done by ms-13? the prototypes for those were done by muhammed and his thug-buddies. IS, al qaeda, al shabob, etc., aren’t doing *anything* that muhammed wouldn’t have done.
and *that’s* why the rabbit-breeding muslims will conquer eurabia and finally extinguish civilization there. there is a tiny chance that decent people will win the civil wars soon to come, but i’m not holding my breath.
Linda says
If the Muslims were deported from Europe, they wouldn’t be there to become the majority. We need to get them out of Europe and North America and resettle them in Islamic countries so they can go nuts with Islam, but not around us.
gravenimage says
Agreed–we should stop Muslim immigration into the West, then start deporting the ones already here. Begin with the worst Jihadists.
Linda says
I’m all for deportation of every last Muslim.
Save Europe says
Correct Linda. I’m not a Slovak, but interestingly, their population has been at a near constant 10 mill mark, to the best of my knowledge.
Carol the 1st says
The elites seem to be viewing us as crops with pocketbooks. Unfortunately fertile soil is limited.
gravenimage says
I see we have another call for surrender to Islam here. *Ugh*.
Indiana Tom says
In Nacka, we do not think immigrants or Muslims would be a threat. They are an asset. ”
The Muslims are all on the doll contributing odles to the nation of Swedistan.
Indiana Tom says
they will see the Christians’ generosity as their due, since the Qur’an commands Muslims to fight against the “People of the Book” and force them to pay the jizya, a tax from which Muslims are exempt. So non-Muslims paying money to Muslims is the divinely-ordained order of things, and doesn’t exempt these Christians from the general commands
The more you appease and respect Islam, the more the Muslims will feel that Allah is divinely working for them and their jihad is just.
This is why it was so important to move the embassy to Jerusalem and have a pig pee on the Koran.
Sam says
F****** Sweden. I can not stand to such stupidity. Giving money to people whose mission is to kill you. I have no empathy for Swedes. They deserve Islam.
Linda says
Just to remind you, just like in the rest of our countries, the Swedes didn’t ask for this and they weren’t really consulted or informed that they were being replaced by hoards from the Middle East.
Notmoron says
Devil exist
Save Europe says
These idiots have clearly never read the Koran. Even as an Agnostic, I know fully well Islam comes to both negate and supplant both Judaism and Christianity – both of which are far superior to the supremacist ideology of Islam.
Carol the 1st says
I think this minister and his congregation need to consult Gavin Boby “the Mosque Buster”:
Interview with Gavin Boby: Mosquebusting, Rape Gangs and Islam in General
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fZ5d1HMEX8
sidney penny says
Any space or money for a Buddhist Temple?
Abu salma says
I mean Muslim and I’m wondering are you guys up for a discussion on this? My Dane Focus here in America is converting Christians to Islam. If the Koran is wrong why can’t you guys show us? Email me
na19711990@gmail.com
gravenimage says
Abu salma only believes the Qur’an is right because he is a fan of wife beating, piracy, slavery, rape, and mass slaughter. *Ugh*.
Carol the 1st says
Delusions of grandeur by the man holding a switch behind his back.
Chris Malan says
There is a difference between generosity and stupidity. The Swedes deserve what they are getting.
Karen says
The Nacka Assembly took the financial legacies people had left in their wills to support the church, and diverted the funds and intentions to an entirely different purpose. Carl Dahlbäck seems to shrug his shoulders about the whole affair, since the money came in so handy for his pet project. The Catholic Church has been involved in similar projects. This should give anyone considering legacies to these organizations pause to consider more trustworthy alternatives.
Terra Nova says
Christian People< I feel bad for you, what is it with you, that you think you should lay yourselves on the ground and have all other people walk all over you, the people that are taking your countries, want to kill you, rape you, enslave you, taking all your goods, your houses, your money, you must be out of your minds. Christ said: LOVEY OUR ENEMIES AND ALWAYS STAY ON LOVING THEM.
But when attacked, don't be coward, put your house into order. The way you behave ,not even daring to open your mouth, and then thinking, you are such a marvellous Christian.Suppose everybody thinks like you, in a short while there will not be a Christian in the world, neither a Jew, neither a Hindu, or any other religion. We would have them all walking straight over you. You can believe, but don't be stupid.
What they are doing to Tommy Robinson is appalling. The left is trying to oppress us the utmost, you know why, because the end is in view, one more very bad thing like what happend to Tommy Robinson
and a lot of people will be on the street immediately and I hope you can live with yourselves.
Your judges and parlement threw all laws out of the window took away our free speech and the rest we all know.
Vicky says
They are willingly doing what only only slaves are forced to do. Ignorance, stupidity, blind obedience are never reasons to commit suicide.
tony46 says
Pure apostasy.
Troybeam says
Just bend over and give them your church, geez people are you stupid or what.
gravenimage says
Sweden: Church collects money to build mosque
………………
These poor dhimmi tools don’t have a clue…
sopan123 says
Lemming like, is this basic impulse is to be tolerant of intolerance. Militant islam is not some errant broccoli in a back yard garden. it is the stated antithesis of every tenet of western culture, with an avowed goal of extinguishing everything not itself. It is a toxic deviant philosophy masquerading as a religion. This perversion is being used by the globalist elites to crush populism, now intentionally introduced into the commons, under the fatally flawed idea that it can be tamed, like a some house pet, after it has been unleashed.
I can think of nothing more fitting, than England, herself the destroyer of a thousand cultures, to be the first colonial power led to their death by the culturally misplaced guilt of oppression, upon unwittingly having created a monster, do invite it into their home. Whereupon, monster, gleefully kills them in their sleep, rapes the remaining children, and enslaves them.
What did you teach it, O fool? Now the remedy is insanity and suicide for your sins?
Do WE not make vassals of the peoples in lands we wish to plunder? Give us your oil, and riches, no matter people live like chickens? Unbridled capitalism is the evil which enslaves us to greed.
Woe is us who have made the tools of Armageddon from those spoils. Now raped children are the least of the calamity. Militant Islam is now within arms reach of atomic weapons. Every fallen democracy brings them ever closer to the tools with which to convey their contempt for freedom and choice.
Carol the 1st says
Poor baby Islam – just being *forced* to get back at the bad guys who found and extracted the oil out of their sands and promised to leave their precious ‘religion’ alone in return. Shining stars of the Islamic people such as Saudi princes and sundry sheikhs and ayatollahs must be weeping into their gold cups.
Face it, geopolitics are too complex for the average person to understand, but If fault can be ascribed then don’t delude yourself that Islam would have done better. Most definitely not. Their creed does not encompass benevolence and freedom for (check the Koran). Their “warriors” inflict malice and injury upon the innocent every day – up close and personal. The rest invariably stand aside still clutching and claiming they have a “holy tome”.
gravenimage says
Actually, England brought civilization to a great many places.
Leon Degney says
I couldn’t be bothered commenting on this really, because there is no medicine for stupid.