The double standard is easily explained: Christians won’t riot or kill, or threaten to do so, if rejected.
“Sweden: Church calls forbidden in town were mosque is allowed to air 110dB Islamic call to prayer,” by Joshua Cullen, Voice of Europe, May 12, 2018:
Thursday we’ve reported on that the mosque in Sweden’s Växjö received permission to broadcast their call to prayer. But when the St. Michael’s Church applied for a wake-up call for church services in the same city, they received a ‘no’, newspaper Smålandsposten reports.
According to priest Ingvar Fogelqvist, the town rejected his requests to ring the bell because the sound of it could “disturb the area”. Fogelqvist’s requests were two times rejected two times: In the 1990s and again in the early 2000s.
He believes that the ringing is a nice old Christian tradition that his church would like to be able to use and it “would make the Catholic Church a bit more visible here in the community”.
After the local mosque is now allowed to broadcast its 110 decibels Calls to Prayer, the church may now apply to ring bells outside….
Wellington says
Well, if Swedish meatballs are really Turkish meatballs, then something like this should be fully expected.
How much longer, those of you in Sweden who have any common sense and guts left, will you allow this subservience to Islam go on? Because you don’t have much longer to save your country. Yes, you are running out of time.
Islam makes me sick. But what makes me sicker is subservience to Islam by non-Muslims. Here is where the ultimate blame lies, i.e., with foolish dhimmis aplenty sucking up to Mo’s deluded followers for whatever indefensible reason.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Wellington the Catholic Church in the same area applied twice to ring its bells one a day. Both applications were denied by the council.
Now they have a megaphone five times a day, call to prayer, at high decibels.
In this case I would rather laugh than have anger.
Stay well my friend,
Salah says
Yes, Malcolm. Some of us will spend their eternity laughing at those crushed by Satan for refusing to bow to the One and Only Name capable of saving them.
Thanks for backing me on a previous thread.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Salah we are brothers pray for me and I you.
CogitoErgoSum says
Hmmmm …….. I hope I have better ways to spend eternity than to amuse myself by watching the suffering of others. I don’t believe the true God derives any kind of pleasure at all from inflicting pain or watching souls being tortured. I don’t think He would laugh or even smile about such misery. His sense of humor is beyond that. Of course, the Allah of the Quran is of a completely different character.
Salah says
You’re right, Cogito; Malcolm and I are just having some *fun*…very sad fun.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
When laughing at the evil one, it disturbs him, Show no fear or anger.
Wellington says
Nope, Malcolm, I respect you but anger is often preferable to laughter. As here.
As another example, I for one am exceedingly glad that Winston Churchill was far more angry with Nazism than he was amused by it.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Understand your sentiments Wellington, For me I see the stupidity and the hypocrisy of it all, by secular society for me its a laugh , The banning of the Church Bell does not affect my ability to pray or to worship my Lord or to do His will, nothing in that order will prevent me, however the secularist will reap what they sow,
There is no worry here, here, it is a distraction. The issue is a global onslaught of innocent people around the world that some secularist and others help, more so in the continent I live, There are hundreds of churches been destroyed in Nigeria and thousands killed every year.
Unfortunately I posted the quote (Pope Leo) on the wrong thread below, I have posted this before some might like it though.
Westman says
It seems beyond Swedish comprehension to realize that there is an ideology, cloaked in religion, that is more effective than communism in stripping humans of their potential and hijacking their lives into its service. It will chisel away with never-ending demands until it becomes the granting authority for everything.
Piercing the early morning air with irritating noise, in a foreign language, is just the beginning. And integration? Uhhh, still waiting for the Muezzin to call for prayers in Swedish?
PRCS says
“It seems beyond Swedish comprehension”
The inability to accurately determine whether that is the case–or not–is a problem. And not just in Sweden. Yesterday’s JW post referenced this article:
https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/05/after-permission-in-vaxjo-swedish-muslims-now-want-to-send-calls-to-prayer-all-over-the-country/
It stated: “a clear majority of Swedes are against broadcasting the Call to Prayer”
Complicated, at least.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
While on the subject, this has always been one of my favorite quotes from a Great Pope.
To recoil before an enemy, or to keep silence when from all sides such clamors are raised against truth, is the part of a man either devoid of character or who entertains doubt as to the truth of what he professes to believe.
In both cases such mode of behaving is base and is insulting to God, and both are incompatible with the salvation of mankind.
This kind of conduct is profitable only to the enemies of the faith, for nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good.
Moreover, want of vigor on the part of Christians is so much the more blameworthy, as not seldom little would be needed on their part to bring to naught false charges and refute erroneous opinions, and by always exerting themselves more strenuously they might reckon upon being successful.
After all, no one can be prevented from putting forth that strength of soul which is the characteristic of true Christians, and very frequently by such display of courage our enemies lose heart and their designs are thwarted.
Christians are, moreover, born for combat, whereof the greater the vehemence, the more assured, God aiding, the triumph: “Have confidence; I have overcome the world.”
Nor is there any ground for alleging that Jesus Christ, the Guardian and Champion of the Church, needs not in any manner the help of men. Power certainly is not wanting to Him, but in His loving kindness He would assign to us a share in obtaining and applying the fruits of salvation procured through His grace.
SAPIENTIAE CHRISTIANAE
Pope Leo XIII
Paragraph 14
Michael Poulin says
When Pope had balls …
P.O.'d in Canuckistan says
Excellent. Thanks for posting.
Tamako says
RIP Sweden.
You have yourself to blame for having lost your country.
You All are cowards and history will remember you as such.
PRCS says
It’s not that they’re ALL cowards.
Rather there are more cowards than heroes.
Lydia Church says
In that case especially, I say:
RING THE CHURCH BELLS!
TOO BAD if they don’t like it now!
At least I would, that’s all I have to say!
isabella says
Their call for prayer gives me the creeps. Can’t stand it!
Stacy Girl says
It’s usually followed by a gruesome attack. If you hear it, run or draw your weapon.
somehistory says
With all of the other news items coming out of Sweden, this is no surprise.
People who like the sounds of bells ringing, don’t make a habit of rioting when the bells are silent.
As opposed to those who are deluded into thinking (thinking used loosely) that the bellowing to satan is a “beautiful” sound, and riot when they hear it and when they don’t.
Alien Republican says
“the church may now apply to ring bells outside….” – Wouldn’t that threatend “community cohesion” ?
mummymovie says
Just when you start feeling bad for the people of Sweden, you come to the rude awakening that it’s not just their leaders holding them captive to their folly, but that the responsibility lies with the people themselves.
Even on a local town government level- the people are electing these dhimwhit enablers. It almost seems as if this is what they want.
Unbelievable!
Though to some extent, the whole world seems to be leaning this direction right now, I must say that the current plight of Sweden is truly one of the most depressing things in the world to think about at this time.
So sad.
It makes you want to drink.
Cicero says
Wow I never made the connection – thank you
JawsV says
Sweden should start deporting the Muslims and their Jihad religion. Raze the mosks. Trash the Korans. Put your earthly powers to use and get the Islamic invaders OUT. It’s the only way. Like Spain’s Reconquista.
Eur says
After the reconquista muslims were not expelled immediately. Muslims resisted living in society, they revealed themselves, they formed armed resistance and allied with the Berber pirates as well as with the Ottomans. The revolt of the Alpujarras was the last war, the kings did not admit any more jihad for Always
until the idiots of current politicians have allowed Islamic immigration and the consideration of Islam as any other religion.
Where there are Muslims there is Islam and where there is Islam there is jihad and finally…. theocracy…
JawsV says
You are right. 70 years after the fall of Granada there were still some 100,000 Muslims living in Spain. Most in Andalusia, but sprinklings elsewhere. The Alpujarras mountains behind Granada were used by the defeated Moors (called Moriscos in Spain) as a refuge from their Christian overlords. The Alpujarras revolt (Jihad) occurred 1568-70. The 2-year Jihad failed. In Nov. 1570 the remaining Moriscos were deported from Granada.
mummymovie says
The call to prayer is the stake through the heart of societies under conquest by islam.
To think that the suicidal Swedes have done this to themselves, and their once-great culture, and that continue to do so, is so utterly depressing.
I refuse to read articles about Sweden anymore- the rest of the world has it’s own islam problems to deal with.
Crusades Were Right says
But I’m sure the Muslims of Växjö will refuse to broadcast their prayer calls until the Christians are allowed to do the same, in a gesture of solidarity with their brothers and sisters in faith.
Right?
JawsV says
Christians and Muslims aren’t brothers/sisters in faith. Christianity and Islam are opposites. Islam negates everything Christianity stands for.
Crusades Were Right says
@JawsV:
Guess I need to spread the irony on my commenting a bit thicker! D’oh!
; ¬)
PRCS says
I got it.
Thank you.
DragarOz says
2nded !
gravenimage says
I knew you were being sarcastic, Crusades.
JawsV says
Glad you were being sarcastic, Crusades!
mortimer says
JB, this is sophomoric… not humorous. Please write something intelligent. Your sophomoric insults are not effective and make the Counterjihad appear unintelligent, unread, light-weight and bigoted.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Jay Boo, we are all touched by madness, there are a number of times you have had me in laughter, thank you.
Have known doctors or surgeons, who crack humour and that is a natural break from the seriousness of their occupations.
Cicero says
Response endorsed
Carolyne says
Me too. In fact I have heard the “Call to prayer,” in various places. It is a horrendous sound. Rather like I would imagine a camel in heat to be caterwauling.
J D S says
I fully agree Jay boo…Their prayers never leave the ground. Their prayers descends into the pit of hell where their god Satan lives…Anyone who believes that Islam is a GOD based religion Is delusional.. butts in the air heads on the ground might give them a little exercise several times a day but other than that…Nothing!
One thing to remember….God will require every knee to bend upon the return of Jesus….Now I don’t believe that means all will become Christians…But EVERY KNEE WILL BEND recognizing Jesus as King of all..and back to the topic….Sweden…aka…Swedeistan has fully turned their country over to Satan. May God help the Christians there.
Tinman Newheart says
You’re right, never bathing, raping little girls, and cutting heads off is much more sophisticated.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, Muslims *really do* groom young schoolgirls.
mortimer says
A cellphone app is already known to ALL MUSLIMS and many use it.
The call to prayer is not effective in the modern suburb even if it is the loudness of an AIR-RAID SIREN.
MUSLIMS SHOULD GET AN APP ON THEIR CELLPHONE.
abad says
Sweden should be deporting Moslems from its soil, NOT allowing the building of mosques.
Islam does not belong in Sweden. Period.
shosh7154 says
110 decibels causes permanent hearing loss after 15 minutes…why would allah want muslim to be deaf after praying to him ?
Frank Anderson says
In the US 90 decibels is where hearing protection is *required* in the workplace. If I remember correctly, 110 decibels is actually 100 times more sound pressure than 90. This sound is loud enough to be heard for miles, and damage hearing for non-muslims as well as muslims. What incredible idiocy! Where will it stop?
Infidel says
SWEDEN IS GONE… The paradise that once was….. How painful.. and I’m not even Swedish.. How would a real Swede feel??
Matthieu Baudin says
“…The double standard is easily explained: Christians won’t riot or kill, or threaten to do so, if rejected…”
Yes, we have determined bullies amongst us and we bend readily to their demands.
Ren says
Dhimmis are always dumd.
dan christensen says
According to islam, muslim territory always reach as far as the minarets can be seen and the prayer calls can be heard. Mosques originally were military outposts that marked the border between infidels and true believers.
Scorpio says
Why would Muslins wish to use loudspeakers? Islam is the epitome of parochial thinking and seems to resents Western inventions unless of course to kill the infidel! The call to prayer is fundamental to all that Islam represents and were the minarets not, primarily, built for this purpose?
Having lived in many Muslin countries, Indonesia in particular, the only time the bawling and shouting became intrusive was the 4.00am call and if you didn’t waken up – you had to be dead! Being a Westerner I sought to over come the problem, as Westerners do, and eventually succeeded. It was very effective and involved little expense and allowed me to sleep until my alarm woke me up for work at 7.00am. The answer was to use an unobtrusive sound to obliterate the intrusive sound!
gravenimage says
Infidels in the free West should not have to do this.
dumbledoresarmy says
I like this Catholic priest.
“…He believes that the ringing is a nice old Christian tradition that his church would like to be able to use and it “would make the Catholic Church a bit more visible here in the community”.
“After the local mosque is now allowed to broadcast its 110 decibels Calls to Prayer, the church may now apply to ring bells outside..”.
YES!
And all Islamo-aware and resistant Swedes – and for that matter, the Swedish Democrats – should line up behind him and write letters in *support* of that application.
And if he wins his case – I will pray that he *does* – then I would advise the Resistance (inclluding not a few people who read and post here!) to get in touch with him and then pass round the hat so he can afford to pay for a good – staffed by large and no-nonsense non-Muslims – security detail, and a brace of large, black, well-trained guard dogs, with handler. Because if he rings his bells, then the damn mohammedans might well attack. Guards and guard dogs might deter them.
If he *does* get approval to ring his bells then he should ring the Angelus. Not horribly loudly – make sure the bells ring sweetly and clearly, And if he is brave enough – and once he has his security detail and big dogs on the prowl – then he should ring the ‘Turkish Bell’ – that is, the “Call to prayer for the defeat of the Jihad” bell, that a 15th century Pope instituted, back in the day.
patriotliz says
Love this video for those Swedes who think “multiculturalism” is just swell:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLUTe9ZQpYk&t=
Simo Hayha says
muslim loudspeakers. RPG. BOOM. Silence. Of course, the pinhead Swedish politicians who live in protected, gated enclaves haven’t been slashed, raped, run over by TRUCKS, and THEIR little children haven’t been sexually assaulted by OLD muslim men at the community swimming pools. “Inclusion” and acceptance, yeah, accept muslim D*cks being THRUST into YOUR kids’ butts. Uh huh. Time to uncover the hidden pistols, rifles, and SHOTGUNS in Sweden and BLAST these filthy garden slugs.
Maximus says
Christian or not, they are like any other civilized people – abuse and oppress them enough and you will have armed resistance and civil war on your hands…
Hogdude says
…and free pork chops served to all. Oh, and discounted prayer rugs for sale.
Carolyne says
I have often thought about how brave were my ancestors to leave Europe and settle in an unknown, wild land. I have wondered at those who stayed behind. Looking at the Europeans today, the descendants of those who stayed behind, sort of answers my question. Was it only the brave who left to build a new world? And are those who were left behind rabbits who are afraid of their own shadows–or afraid of Muslims. Pull yourselves together, folks and gather your courage to save your countries from this scourge. You will not have another chance and this chance is quickly vanishing.
The awful truth says
There are few Swedes if any replying. Can’t we hear what Ingrid Carlquist has to say? The CTP is horribly intrusive and there are often loads of mosques blasting away in non Muslim countries. It’s bad for wildlife. The fact that Sweden has caved in on this point shows how plum ignorant they are and insensitive to majority needs.
Frank Anderson says
Since when has any majority mattered to liberals of any label?
terry says
Show up at the call with a boombox and crank it up with jesus rock.
Equality is a wonderful thing.
gravenimage says
Sweden: City that allows Islamic call to prayer on loudspeakers twice rejected church bells
…………………
Appalling but not surprising.