A Conservative Party candidate for the 2018 local elections has been suspended pending investigation after old tweets emerged where she compared Islam to Nazism. Karen Sunderland, a candidate for Crofton Park in Lewisham, London, called Islam “the new Nazism” in a tweet last December
Islamic jihad is a massive global problem. Yet the increasingly common response from authorities in the West, particularly in Britain, to criticism of it demonstrates how far the acceptance of Sharia restrictions on the freedom of speech has advanced in ostensibly free societies.
Meanwhile, Muslim Labor MP Naz Shah can get away with saying the most shocking and damaging statements: Shah marked the death of Winnie Mandela with an “inspirational” quote from Mandela endorsing the brutal “necklacing” murders of the ’80s and ’90s. Shah also compared Israelis to Hitler and wants Israel “dismantled.” She posted pro-Hamas tweets and retweeted a message to the victims of the Muslim rape gangs, telling them to shut up for the good of diversity.
None of that was enough to get her suspended or fired. But to criticize Islam in the slightest manner, even when the criticism is true, is now regarded as a crime to be punished. Note also how Sunderland criticized Islam’s restrictions on the freedom of speech. Her punishment proves her correct.
British leaders have succumbed to dhimmitude. It remains to be seen how long British citizens will be willing to put up with the advance of Sharia, under which Islam must not be criticized without punishment.
“Tory council candidate Karen Sunderland suspended for ‘Islamophobic’ tweets comparing Islam to Nazism”, by Alex Finnis, iNews, May 1, 2018:
A Conservative Party candidate for the 2018 local elections has been suspended pending investigation after old tweets emerged where she compared Islam to Nazism.
Karen Sunderland, a candidate for Crofton Park in Lewisham, London, called Islam “the new Nazism” in a tweet last December, and has also been called out for a number of other ‘Islamophobic’ statements.
She sent a tweet in October mocking hijabs, and the following month said she was confused why Muslims would choose to live in the West.
“Islam has become the new Nazism” In a since-removed thread including both Piers Morgan and Malala Yousafzai, Ms Sunderland wrote: “Love your optimism. The thing is, religion undermines the hard fought for values and tolerances of progressed countries… suppresses free speech and is auto immune from criticism. This is toxic and where the hostility comes from. Religion is totalitarian. Islam has become the new Nazism.”
In a reply to LBC in November she wrote: “Parents will simply bang on about Islam and their rights blah blah blah. It confuses me so much why people with these views live in the West.”
And her tweet about the hijab from October read: “Such a lame attempt you made to justify hijabs. Self indulgent to think anyone would give a toot that you showed your hair.”….
Jaladhi says
These morons can’t tolerate the truth about Islamo-nazis!!
mortimer says
No, they are pandering to wealthy Muslims and Gulf oil money.
UK is a highly CENSORED STATE… freedom of speech is 51% dead in UK. If Labour returns, they will remove the remaining 49% of freedom.
Linnte says
The Sauds own the Ports of the UK. For an Island nation, that’s complete control. So, UK will become completely Sharia compliant- unless ALL THE PEOPLE rise up in rebellion. I mean all the non Muslims, and that just ain’t a gonna happen.
gravenimage says
Yes, Linnte–it is alarming how much of their key assets Brain has sold off–and often to enemy Muslims:
“As the last British-owned port is sold abroad… What kind of nation sells its soul to the highest foreign bidder?”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1369046/Last-British-owned-port-sold-abroad-UK-sells-soul-highest-foreign-bidder.html
mortimer says
JB, you are psychiatric and other members see it too. Your separation from reality will get much worse if untreated.
Steffie Chalmers says
Jay Boo, learn to write English, then contribute.
gravenimage says
Psychiatric?
Anne Smith says
You are right Mortimer. Mrs May has made Saudia Arabia her first port of call, literally when she rushed off there after being made leader and has since revisited.
Her sickening and nauseatingly fawning speech to Muslims confirms her allegiance to Saudi and whether it is for oil or because she fears them one cannot say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56ERFbpO93g&lc…
Hector Archytas says
Well. It would need focus against Islam only. Economy and social progress not worth think if you lose your country.
Save Europe says
Yep, Karen Sutherland is correct. What a pity, Sharia May can’t be replaced by someone who is ‘aware.’
gravenimage says
The worst thing is that the candidate she was running against last time was *even worse*–the egregious Jihad-enabling Jeremy Corbyn.
JH says
They are much worse than Nazi’s, they are just barbaric slime that needs to be re-routed to their hollows or trodden underfoot/
It is not fair that she was suspended for something she wrote months ago, just lately the corrupt, treasonous government are bending over backwards (and forewards) to appease these barbaric scum and NOTHING is being done about it. At this rate they will takeover for sure/
Robin says
Political parties make their own rules (as long as they don’t discriminate on race, disability etc.).
The Tories are just another part of the regime so hardly suprising this here.
gravenimage says
We just don’t want Muslims invading, raping, and murdering us–characterizing that as ‘treading them underfoot’ is just calumny.
mortimer says
Karen Sunderland is correct In comparing Islam with Nazism. The similarities are many: misogyny, racial supremacism, cult of the personality, a divine mission to rule the world, amorality, plundering, raping, genocide, intolerance of other ideas, second-class status of conquered nations, glorification of murderers, etc.
Moreover, Hitler said, in 1943: “Nazis could be Moslems and Moslems could be Nazis.” (…because of the similar goals and opportunistic methods of both groups)
Hitler often said, “You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”
Himmler hated Christianity but he liked Islam:
“I have nothing against Islam because it educates the men in this division for me and promises them heaven if they fight and are killed in action. A very practical and attractive religion for soldiers.” – Heinrich Himmler (head of Nazi SS troops)
Goebbels: “The National Socialist movement may be called ant-Semitic no longer, but only anti-Jewish. We have nothing against Arabs and other Semitics peoples….”
Himmler’s telegram to Mufti: “”To the Grand Mufti: The National Socialist movement of Greater Germany has, since its inception, inscribed upon its flag the fight against the world Jewry. It has therefore followed with particular sympathy the struggle of freedom-loving Arabs, especially in Palestine, against Jewish interlopers. In the recognition of this enemy and of the common struggle against it lies the firm foundation of the natural alliance that exists between the National Socialist Greater Germany and the freedom-loving Muslims of the whole world. In this spirit I am sending you on the anniversary of the infamous Balfour declaration my hearty greetings and wishes for the successful pursuit of your struggle until the final victory. Reichsfuehrer S.S. Heinrich Himmler”
JH says
You are correct, there is even photo’s of Hitler meeting muscum on many occasions.
We fought against Hitler so WHY are we cowing down to this Islamic scum?
Mr Frederick Revell says
Excellent case. If we don’t speak out against this religion future generations will suffer.
Robin says
“Karen Sunderland is correct In comparing Islam with Nazism.”
Not really. Islam is far worse than Naziism even at its worst.
gravenimage says
Good post, Mortimer.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
Karen Sunderland could have quoted Churchill who, after reading a translation of “Mein Kampf”, called it “The New Koran of Faith and War”. In other words, Churchill, who had encountered and observed Islam in action both on the North-West Frontier, and in Sudan in the 1890s, was *reminded of Islam, first and foremost* when he read.. .Mein Kampf.
Interestingly enough, two other very different European observers – Jung, and Karen Blixen – were *also* reminded of Islam, when they encountered Nazism.
Years ago, right here in Jihadwatch, a poster shared with us some passages from Karen Blixen’s works, giving her views on Nazism, and the comparison she drew with Islam.
The original posting cannot now be accessed, but at the time I made a full copy of the relevant portions, which I here reproduce.
“…In the spring of 1940 Karen Blixen was in Berlin as war correspondent for the Danish newspaper Politiken.
“In “Letters from a Country at War” she wrote:
“Has there ever been anything like The Third Reich?
“**Of the phenomena I have encountered through my life Islam, the Muslim world and the Muslim world view come closest. The word Islam means submission and appearently that’s what the Third Reich is saying by its show of hands: I am Yours in life and death.”** (my emphasis – dda)
“**Like Nazism the Muslim world view is informed by an immense arrogance and pride: The orthodox believer is above all infidels, one orthodox soul is of more value than all the gold in the world.
(Note that she zeroes in on the attitude of supremacism – dda)
“Islam in its essence destroys all classes as the Third Reich does.
” Muslims no matter if they are emirs or second-ranking people are equally good. There’s a strong team spirit and readiness to help one another – one has to give up 10 pct. of his fortune to Muslims in need, and it’s not charity, it’s a debt you pay.
“The rituals of Islam are similar to The Third Reich: Orthodox believers do not have time to turn into strangers to one another.
“**Some things in (Hitler’s) Mein Kampf are similar to chapters in the Koran.”** (my emphasis – dda).
“Quoted from Karen Blixen: Collected Essays).”.
And here is the Jung quote, unearthed originally by Andrew Bostom.
“During an interview conducted in the late 1930s (published in 1939), Carl Jung, the Swiss psychiatrist and founder of analytical psychiatry, was asked “…had he any views on what was likely to be the next step in religious development?”
‘Jung replied, in reference to the Nazi fervor that had gripped Germany,
“We do not know whether Hitler is going to found a new Islam. He is already on the way; he is like Muhammad. The emotion in Germany is Islamic; warlike and Islamic. They are all drunk with wild god. That can be the historic future…”.
Perhaps UK jihadwatchers might like to contact Ms Sunderland and give her, for her use in her defence, these three sets of observations – three very, very different people who, already having some acquaintance with Islam, were *immediately* reminded of Islam, when they encountered Nazism.
gravenimage says
Thank you, DDA.
John Harvey says
Islam has no doctrine of racial supremacism .
Islam is not amoral: it merely has moral rules different from yours. ( I am not saying that there is no absolute morality.)
Be accurate.
gravenimage says
Actually, Islam is shot through with Arab supremacism.
More importantly, though, it is true that Islam is not amoral–instead, it is profoundly *Immoral*.
Muslim morality includes pedophilia, brigandage, rape, and the oppression and slaughter of unbelievers.
John Harvey says
Fewer than 15% of Muslims are Arab. Please offer evidence ( e.g., a quote from the hadith) to show that Islam is shot through with Arab supremacism. Quran 12:2 (“ We have revealed it, a Lecture in Arabic, that ye may understand”) is not Arab supremacist but is almost condescending to the Arabs.
gravenimage says
The Qur’an is only to be read in Arabic, Muslims pray facing Arabia, Muslims are to adopt Arab names, anything that didn’t exist in 7th-century Arabia is deemed “Bi’da” (innovation), and the “Prophet” is the model for all time–not just in “ethical” matters, but even on cultural issues.
Arab supremacy is far from the most objectionable aspect of Islam, but it is definitely a factor.
Walter Sieruk says
This young woman only came out with the truth. Maybe the reality of the truth is too much for some people to handle. Furthermore, the historic connection between Islam and Nazism and how this all relates to our current times ,there is the site http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com
Brian hoff says
Many muslim service in the UK France free army and america military in WWIi in fact Churchill would have crack down hard on any anti muslim or anti Islam speech or action. The only reason the muslim in south east europe was to protect they people from the so saw Serbia fighter who attack the peaceful muslim in southeast europe.
DogOnPorch says
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.
—Churchill
gravenimage says
As DogonPorch shows, “Brian hoff’s”–really, “Defenderofislam’s”–claim that Churchill would have persecuted any Briton for daring to speak critically of the horrors of Islam is just grotesque calumny. He was a robust critic of that foul creed himself.
Brian hoff says
General Pattson was discipline for criticize the Soviel Union during WWII. If any of Churchill Minster went public with any anti Islam or any anti muslim statement or action that person would be in touble. Many muslim nations help the allies in World WarII.
gravenimage says
What ludicrous claptrap from “Brian hoff”. Churchill *himself* was widely and consistently critical of Islam.
The idea that he was shilling for Islam during WWII–and persecuting anyone who was not–is completely false.
mortimer says
JB, censorship is not the answer. JW supports freedom of speech. Fascists like you belong in another forum, JB.
True kafir says
I totally disagree.
Islam is not the new Nazism.
It is just old Nazism.
jayell says
Just what I was going to say!
FYI says
What is jihadism…. only religious Nazism?
Nazis:secular totalitarians with their “prophet” hitler and his book preaching hatred and violence,especially towards the Jews
islamic jihadists;religious totalitarians with their “prophet” muhammed and his book preaching hatred and violence,especially towards the Jews.
CogitoErgoSum says
In her tweet provided above Sunderland states, “… religion undermines the hard fought for values & tolerances of progressed countries.” She goes on to say, “Religion is totalitarian.” Is she equating all religion to Islam? Islam is one of many religions on this planet. While I agree with her assessment concerning Islam, I disagree that all religions bear a resemblance to Nazism. Not all religions undermine freedom and tolerance ….. the establishment of the United States by people of many faiths intent on the creation of a nation of tolerance for those with differing faiths (or no faith) being a case in point. Religious people fought and died for the creation and the continued defense of such a land.
gravenimage says
I very much take your point, CogitoErgoSum.
She still never should have been suspended, though–and I doubt she would have been if this hadn’t been seen as a criticism of Islam.
Save Europe says
I’d argue that many critics who speak openly, often feel obliged to ‘have to’ incorporate other real religions into their argument, as they’re scared to be called an Islamophobe, if they solely criticise the Death Cult.
Donald MacInnis says
Same thing. With Christians added to the list of slaughters. Mainstream media is against all Christian’s. Useless puppets paid to destroy.
Tanya says
Doesn’t anybody remember that the Grand Mufti once embraced both Hitler and Nazism with such fervor that they had an Islamic SS unit that was so dedicated to eradicating Jews that made the normal SS look like cartoon characters. All our middle eastern problems today can be traced back to escaping Nazi’s being used as mentors and trainers for middle eastern terrorist groups after the war. Islam and Nazism whats the real difference?
Brian hoff says
The only muslim nation in europe in WWII that was occupied by the nazie protected the jew from the nazie by hiden then and misleading the SS. The muslim SS division in that nation held hide the jew by misleading the SS. After the war that nation have 3 time numbers of the living there compare to the number before the war.
gravenimage says
The idea that the SS was *helping* Jews is one of the most ludicrous statements I have ever seen from “Brian hoff”–and that is saying a great deal.
In fact, In 1944, an Albanian Waffen-SS division was formed, which arrested and handed over to the Germans most of the Jews from Kosovo–who were subsequently deported to the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp, where most were killed.
Brian hoff says
Hitler didnot die in 1945 but die in Indonesia in 1070 and he marry than dark skin woman from the Sudan and he convert to Islam to marry her. The people in the city he live in didnot know he was Hitler untril after he die and they notice for a man with few friend alots of people from europe south america america the middle east and asia visit his grave site. He took on the id of than minor warcriminal which nobody was interested in Dr Anton Poch. Goggle the name. Red China was interested in taken in Hitler.
gravenimage says
More ahistorical insanity from “Brian hoff”–but notice how proud he is of the idea that Hitler converted to Islam.
And why not? Muslims *love* Hitler, and his Mein Kampf is a bestseller in Dar-al-Islam to this day. Muslims threaten Jews with another Holocaust.
This comes fom a book by Indonesians Rahasia Yang Terkuak and Soeryo Goeritno, titled “Hitler Mati Di Indonesia” (Hitler Die In Indonesia).
Note that “Brian hoff” can’t even keep his mythical bs straight–in this ludocrous story, Hitler marries not a woman from Sudan but an Indonesian woman who is *Sundanese* (indonesian from Western Java).
gravenimage says
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Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
They’re not conservatives. You can’t even call them centrists!
gravenimage says
UK: Tory council candidate suspended for “Islamophobic” tweet comparing Islam to Nazism
…………………………..
Will they ever say in what substantive ways these forms of totalitarianism are *not* comparable? Of course not–this is supposed to go without saying…
Peter says
FASCISM = TOTALITARIANISM
COMMUNISM = TOTALITARIANISM
ISLAM = TOTALITARIANISM
Two down, one to go.
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s not good that she’s been suspended.
It *is* a good sign – a straw in the wind, so to speak – that a relatively *young* British infidel woman, *despite* having been exposed to the full blast of pro-Islamic propaganda all her life, has formed a critical attitude toward Islam, and understands it well enough, to – correctly – compare it to Nazism. “Islam has become the new Nazism”. Indeed.
If more people recognised that deadly similarity – if mosques, say, were viewed in the same light as a spies’ nest of the Third Reich would have been viewed in 1940 – then we’d be on the way to a pushback against the Jihad.
gravenimage says
Very true, DDA.
cadfael says
well, I wish ignorant people of all kinds stopped comparing fascism and nazism to islamists – it’s really offensive for nazis and fascists
Joe says
If they have write-in ballots, they should vote for Karen Sunderland even after she has been suspended.
Savvy Kafir says
I compare Islam to the Nazi ideology all the time. It’s a very useful analogy — especially when I’m trying to talk sense to my fellow progressives.
And it’s a good way to counter accusations of “racism” from PC types who don’t really grasp the fact that Islam is an ideology, not a race.
gravenimage says
Agreed.
UNCLE VLADDI says
She got it backwards.
The Nazis were really only “white” MUSLIMS.