“David Wood of Acts 17 Apologetics, Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, & Jon McCray of Whaddo You Meme?? discuss the news of the recent arrest of Tommy Robinson, and the current state of the U.K with politics, free speech, and Islam in 2018.”
Theresa May (the buck stops with her) is attempting to murder Tommy Robinson by Muslims. Sadiq Kahn should also be investigated.
Save Europesays
I agree with your former accusation, but not the latter. Don’t get me wrong – I TRULY despise the Islamist Mayor of London, Suckdick Khan, but he cannot have had any involvement in this scenario, because London has zero involvement in Yorkshire business. If this incide had happened in London, then I would totally agree. However – AGREED – Sharia May is utterly complicit and blameworthy. ?
Samsays
HOW CAN WE HELP THIS HERO?
Andysays
I’m TOMMY WE ARE ALL TOMMY! We have to come together and protest in every western civilized land, change the politicians, vote out politicians who are deliberately destroying our customs heritage and land. BE PROUD TO BE A PATRIOT OF YOUR LAND!
Politicians only want power and to hold onto power at any cost. Vote out these traitor b-stards that are ruining our lands.
STOP POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
I’m (Spartacus-Tommy)-Stand United against Tyranny!
Yes, l listened to this excellent video last night. Thanks.
Felix Quigleysays
LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN STALINIST RUSSIA…BY ROBERT SPENCER
The summary by Robert Spencer on the situation of the jailing of Tommy Robinson is masterly
“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest”
Tommy is placed in the position of Becket.
This is a very useful discussion which is located in the history of Mohammed.
As a Trotskyist I agree with these guys and defend Tommy. This is all out of Allah! Britain, or more precisely the British ruling class, from the time of Lawrence have surrendered to Allah!
gravenimagesays
Trotsky had over a thousand people slaugthered in Kronstadt in 1921 for daring to stand up for freedom of speech and against Soviet starvation policies. The idea that someone brave and principled like Tommy Robinson would have been safe under Trotsky is *very* questionable.
revereridesagainsays
“Repellent”, more like it!
gravenimagesays
+1
gravenimagesays
Video: David Wood, Jon McCray and Robert Spencer discuss the arrest of Tommy Robinson
…………………….
Thank you all for speaking out. This is an outrageous injustice against Tommy Robinson.
Cheryl Jonessays
Henry ii
Stephensays
England and Germany are the points on the spear. While the enforcement there of “hate speech” evolved gradually there, it is like a steam locomotive here and in Canada.
This also resulted in threats to a professor who objected to this sick “Day of Absence”. As he notes, it is also unclear on the concept of the original idea–that minorities or women would be missed if they were absent (true), to a demand that white people stay away.
Carol the 1stsays
Weinstein sounds like another Jordan Peterson! He puts his money where his mouth is. He accepted that in prior years certain groups had voluntarily absented themselves and he stated it was like “a forceful call to consciousness, which is, of course, crippling to the logic of oppression” but in 2017 when whites were encouraged to go away he considered it “a show of force, and an act of oppression in and of itself”. The resultant student reaction to his position was unbecoming.
Perhaps the request for whites not to attend was just poorly handled rather than being meant as a slight. Young students like to display their new sense of muscle but often have more book larnin’ than smarts.
Stephensays
Brigadier S. K. Malik wrote a book that everyone should read, The Quranic Concept of War, and with great insight pointed out that when the proper groundwork is done by insinuating Sharia in the enemy country, a violent war is never required for Islam to dominate and conquer the enemy. Islam can conquer a country by doing exactly what is being done in England, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Canada, and unfortunately the United States.
gravenimagesays
Yes–this is what Muslims are trying to do, and all too many dhimmis are complicit–as here.
silvergreycat Thanks for the link, I didn’t have it yet. A preliminary scan indicates that it’s very relevant to the subject of rape gangs that Tommy Robinson has been exposing.
silvergreycatsays
Ekondig G,
*… Thanks for the link*…You’re welcome.
silvergreycatsays
(Updated notice!!!)
Above link won’t work. It will work if you follow these steps:
Obviously you people in the USA do not know about the Weinstein-style epidemic of celebrity sex-scandal witch-hunts in the UK media that started curiously at the same as the first Muslim grooming gangs were being dragged to court after having been officially covered up for years. It started with a well-liked DJ and TV presenter who had died a few years earlier but who had had a somewhat ‘spicy’ private life. Since this person was was deceased there was not too much danger of defensive legal action. The media conducted a clearly-orchestrated character-assassination campaign against this person, which proved to be a most effective smoke-screen to cover the somewhat suppressed reports simultaneously coming out of the courts about the rape gangs. Since the ball had already started rolling on a national basis regarding the gangs, it was clear that more smoke was needed, so it appeared that the authorities fished around and came up with a well-loved and respected Australian entertainer to assassinate in style. Sadly, this person was still alive and ended up in jail although the stories kept the front pages busy for quite some time. And as the grooming-gang trials were continuing and expanding across the country, so the witch-hunt campaigns continued with police fishing expeditions throwing up all sorts of odd names against many of which no evidence could be found – after the names had already been publicised ( and of course provided a diversion)! The whole thing exploded with the predictable hounding of a famous veteran pop star to cover the outing of the Rotherham scandal. Unfortunately, this victim had the resources to fight back, which resulted in a police force having to settle out of court with a considerable compensation payout and the complicit BBC trying to defend itself in court. We haven’t the news of the outcome in the media. I wonder why???
revereridesagainsays
Interesting. I thought I’d spotted all the misdirection campaigns, but that one didn’t occur to me. If #MeToo type accusations are political (and pop cultural) live grenades, something like the rape gangs (or the equivalent over here in the States) is a MOAB. Attention must be diverted!
Jayellsays
It became very obvious when you realise (a) that all the muck-raking could have been done at any time in the years before the gangs were being exposed in court and (b) the authorities were clearly continuing to fish for likely candidates after the first victim had been exhausted. The choice of the final victim, Sir Cliff Richard, was obvious because of his squeaky-clean Christian high profile and a ‘big fish’ was needed to hide a big stink like Rotherham. So when we heard the rumblings about Rotherham in the press as the gangs were due to be paraded in court, I immediately thought that someone like Sir Cliff must be due for the chop and then – bullseye, dead on cue! Pathetically predictable! So who’s running this show and do they think we’re complete idiots? I’d like to know the outcome of Sir Cliff’s action against the BBC; the police settled out of court a long ago but nothing’s been in the news even though a ruling was due some time back. Has there been an unexpected delay or doesn’t the Government want people to know about the £multimillion payout through their licence fees? Or did something else come out in tha case?
High Hopessays
Jimmy Saville was a serial child rapist and alleged necrophiliac, not sure how that qualifies as ‘spicy’ in your world!
Jayellsays
@High hopes – ‘Spicy’was a euphemism. Deliberate understatement. And I also avoided mentioning names, just in case you hadn’t noticed.
Stephensays
To further support my point that the U.S. is heading like a locomotive towards sharia, ABC network just announced that it has cancelled the Rosanne Barr Show because Rosanne tweeted something that ABC did not agree with. Rosanne has the freedom of speech under our First Amendment to speak, but ABC has chilled free speech again by cancelling Roasnne’s source of income.
silvergreycatsays
John Nolte offers an alternative view…
*ABC Television is a business, and if their biggest star has just dropped a game-changer that forever altered the way the customers looked at their biggest star, and by extension, the business of ABC itself, what choice did ABC have?
And let’s give ABC some credit. Until Barr crossed the line, the network stood by her. Her Trump support, some of the controversial things she has tweeted out in the past, ABC did stand up for her right to hold and share her own opinions, no matter how controversial to the establishment, outside the workplace.
Barr’s racist “ape” comment is not a free speech issue. Outside of costing the network customers, imagine the disruption internally at ABC. If the network kept ‘Roseanne’ on the air, kept Barr as a star, what effect would that have had on the network’s black employees—both talent and crew? What does it say to them if such a thing is tolerated?
What Roseanne wrote about Jarrett is indefensible, is racist, and is legitimately hurtful to millions of decent people. I am glad Barr apologized, and, like every one of us, she deserves a second chance after some time has passed.
…And let me add this closing thought.
I am furious at Roseanne Barr, seething mad…Not only for what she tweeted, but over the fact that we finally got one over on Hollywood’s blacklist against conservatives and conservative ideas, we finally had a top-rated TV show that took our ideas seriously, a monster hit, a cultural game changer…
And in just a few months Roseanne Barr ###### it all up, lost it all.
Shame on her.
What she said was racist and indefensible. This is ALL on her, not ABC.*
Yes, she did #### up. However, the Left can call any of us any foul names they care to and woe be it unto anyone who objects. To say nothing of the fact that their lips are sealed as the Fakestinians and other Whores of Allah call the Jews apes and pigs.
Rosanne has given a lot of support to victims of sexual trafficking, something most people don’t know about. Wonder if that gave any extra impetus to her speedy removal from the Hollywood scene.
silvergreycatsays
revereridesagain,
Joshua Caplan reports…
*Roseanne Barr says she is mulling her next move a day after ABC canceled the hit sitcom Roseanne — suggesting that fans and defenders have inspired her to fight her swift sacking over a controversial tweet.
“[Y]ou guys make me feel like fighting back. I will examine all of my options carefully and get back to U,” Barr tweeted Wednesday in response to an outpouring of support.
you guys make me feel like fighting back. I will examine all of my options carefully and get back to U.
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 30, 2018
“I am tired of being smeared,” she continued, “over a stupid mistake erasing 30 yrs of activism.”
Can you all help me get more followers here? The more I have the more my words will have weight. I am a fighter 4 FAiRNESS in all aspects of US life. I am tired of being smeared-over a stupid mistake erasing 30 yrs of activism.
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 30, 2018
Barr has not publicly suggested any specific course of action she may take.*
I heard that she said something like “islam is not a race, leftists” …?
Something said on here all the time. Interesting.
PRCSsays
There are two sides to this event.
I took the time to watch this entire video
JW May 27, Brian Thomas
“The UK’s legal system has created very specific conditions around Tommy Robinson to silence him” https://www.jihadwatch.org/home/page/2
As I understand it (although there certainly could be other reasons) the Crown’s concern was to prevent journalistic misinformation/misstatements from prejudicing the rape gang trials.
gravenimagesays
Uh…right. Can’t have anyone saying anything bad about Muslims raping Infidel girls…
PRCSsays
Did you watch Brian Thomas’ post?
revereridesagainsays
Is that “Brian of London’s” post? Excellent and very thorough analysis.
PRCSsays
Yes, revere, it was.
And, yes, I thought it was a thorough analysis.
I do hope Robinson gets released, but that post makes clear why that’s not likely to happen.
Outstanding interview. In a way the best I’ve seen on this subject. Wood and Spencer make a truly brilliant tandem. Talk about firing with both barrels.
They both combine remarkable coherence and articulateness with a huge fund of knowledge, and the interviewer dealt with it perfectly.
Save Europesays
Agreed ?
Japetto Danatellisays
Thanks guys, an interesting discourse. Your arguments are always reasoned and humanitarian in purpose. You make me feel proud knowing there are people like you in the world. David offered a brilliant perspective here regarding the peaceful role you guys play with your intelligent appeals, while those who are denied a voice may resort to violence. He’s right, we are not the bad guys by speaking against the crimes and immoralities of islam, it’s our politicians and media-giants who fuel the flames of discord and hate by restricting free speech for islam. It soothes my soul to hear you defend free speech so passionately, without it there can be no true freedom. I’ve never felt so in tune with others about an issue, you feel like brothers to me. I know you are too humble to know your own greatness, so let me say it for you, you are great in your mission and efforts. I’m proud to mention your names every chance I get. Take care.
Tommy Robinson jailed after breaking contempt of court laws with Facebook Live video
“He admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial via a live stream on his Facebook page.”
I think he’s in a lot of trouble. Legal trouble.
Save Europesays
May I compliment Mr McCray firstly as he is a black American – and he hasn’t been suckered in by the rhetoric that Muslims are a race of people, and that if you’re a person of colour one should immediately stand up for them, because the majority of them, are of colour. He hasn’t done so. A man to admire greatly ????. He gets the difference between race and ideology.
Infidelsays
There is a BIG ELEPHANT in the room why the EU is fast losing its freedom of speech. THIS , IS NOTHING BUT THE INFILTRATION OF MUSLIMS DEEP INTO THE CORRIDORS OF ITS POWER. This is as simple as that… For goodness sake a Muslim is the Home Secy of the UK.. A Muslim is the mayor of London and many other Muslims all over the EU have wormed themselves deep into the Eu Power woodwork with sweet talk, inducements, and of course Taqiyya which Muslims specialize in day in and out. This is also happening in Canada and WILL HAPPEN IN THE USA TOO as the likes of CAIR and others like Huma infiltrate deep into the Senate and White House… HUMA ALMOST BECAME US SECY OF STATE…(Thank God it did not happen). Obama almost destroyed the USA from within the USA (Thank God Trump put a halt to this insidious process).. But Muslims NEVER GIVE UP and keep on trying if if means a 1000 years to Islamize the entire world.
Billsays
The mainstream media in England is crowing about how they got the reporting ban lifted on the Tommy Robinson case. Right. More accurately, they conspired with the government and the Judge to allow the mainstream media access to records and to present only the government’s side of the story. That is what they are doing. That is what they all do, all the time. Reading the mainstream reports today is like reading a government talking points page. Heck, the government probably wrote it.
The fix is in. Tommy Robinson is going to murdered in prison and the government is laying the propaganda justification for it.
PRCSsays
Re: David Wood comment about death for apostasy…
About 2 years ago I sent a tweet to a Fox News journalist stating that, per Islam’s teachings, killing “unbelievers” is compliance.
He responded that I am clearly a part of the problem.
gravenimagesays
You are “part of the problem” for knowing too much about Islam, PRCS.
Of course, I’m sure this idiot didn’t even bother to check out the accuracy of what you said, but just assumed it must be wrong.
PRCSsays
No doubt.
Ddoesays
Time to put on hold our relationship with Britain. Especislly the USG it needs to cut off the five eyes intel relations and sharing. K has been 100% compromised.
The goat was sent to veterinary experts following signs of injuries in its genital area
WPMsays
Did they have to have 5 male goats testify that it was not consensual ?
Do they have the goat” honor killed” by it owner?
After the goat was honor killed do they sell the meat in a another village then the goat was from?
gravenimagesays
Poor goat…
Charlie Martelsays
Free Speech in America was largely achieved by the Industrial Workers of the World running the Free Speech Movement, doing in Spokane, exactly what David Wood describes, standing on soap boxes and one by one replacing whoever was arrested. Unfortunately nowadays the private prisons will laugh all the way to the bank. However, the Fascists have not yet found a way to make Gag Orders international.
gravenimagesays
Not really–the Wobblies only underwent a modest revival in places like Berkeley during the 1960s–their heyday–such as it was–was much earlier. For instance, Mario Savio was not a member of the IWW.
And the FSM had little to do with free speech in any case–and more to do with hard Leftism.
Further, the idea that Americans did not enjoy freedom of speech until the Communists gave it to then in the ’60s is just silly.
Really, our freedom of speech has more to do with the First Amendment than it does with those out to destroy capitalism.
Brian hoffsays
David you are wrong about alots of thing. First it than muslim leave Islam to join than group that is attacking Islam that muslim is guilty of treason. At our mosque we have people leave Islam no death threat against. That author who wrote that book the Satanic Verse did it to make money his over books are unreadable failure.
gravenimagesays
Brian hoff–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:
David you are wrong about alots of thing. First it than muslim leave Islam to join than group that is attacking Islam that muslim is guilty of treason.
…………………………..
Muslims constantly declare other Muslims to be virtual non-Muslims and hence fair game to murder. There is even an Islamic doctrine for this–Takfir. Often these groups slaughter each other.
More:
At our mosque we have people leave Islam no death threat against.
…………………………..
Wow! We are supposed to be impressed that “DefenderofIslam’s” Mosque is not out sending hit squads against lapsed Mosque-goers *in Texas*. See–Islam must be peaceful! sarc/off
Will “Brian hoff” actually say that the murder of apostates is *wrong*? I doubt it–after all, that would go against the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed–which would, in fact, make “DefenderofIslam” an apostate himself…
More:
That author who wrote that book the Satanic Verse did it to make money his over books are unreadable failure.
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I imagine there are many books the semi-literate “Brian hoff” considers unreadable.
The real question is whether he thinks that death threats against Salman Rushdie–and the murder of several of his literary associates–was wrong, or whether he supports this Islamic savagery.
Save Europesays
For a man with a Western name, Brian cannot even write coherent English! Notice that?
WPMsays
If the author wrote the book to make money , or to make a point about Islam, or the book is almost unreadable that is not the point. The point is he had Islamic run government making a world wide death threat ,a religious back death threat as per the Koran to back it up against the author because the book said “bad ” things about Islam.
gravenimagesays
Spot on, WPM.
Spot Lightsays
British politicians betrayed their own people,using
British police against British Christians citizens, to help
muslim invaders.
“Ezra Levant” appeared in the subtitles as “the excellent Hezbollah man” Oops. 🙂
Coach Martinsays
Thank God for Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Robert Wood, Brigitte Gabriel and all others who daily risk their lives for us all.
The notion that a jury cannot be trusted with full disclosure is insane and insulting. How can a jury make an informed decision if the information that they seek is hidden from them? It is grooming our society into believing that only lawyers are to be trusted.
When lawyers have this much power, it is a small step to instructing the media to deceive us until we are overwhelmed by the truth . . . until it is too late to react.
Martin Luther knew that unless we turn to Jesus, God would be justified in handing us to Islam. This is exactly what is happenig.
Surely David Wood knows that Luther stated in 1530 that Islam was the Beast from the Sea. This was before the Beast appeared to be mortally wounded (1922) and before the Beast reappeared (2017). We have that knowledge. Luther was specifically talking about the Ottoman Empire (Erdogan) but for us, this is just a representave of Islam. Secondly Islam empowers the United Nations (150 votes out of 193). So the United Nations through its Globalist agenda, is changing the laws from Christian values to Satanic values. As predicted in prophecy, we now know the Earth Beast to be the United Nations (an incredibly apt description).
We must fight with Pamela Geller despite the certainty that we will lose. We must preserve our reputation before God and men for the sake of our children. This is what Jesus expects of the remnant who want to stand with Him until the end. So help us God.
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Rita says
Theresa May (the buck stops with her) is attempting to murder Tommy Robinson by Muslims. Sadiq Kahn should also be investigated.
Save Europe says
I agree with your former accusation, but not the latter. Don’t get me wrong – I TRULY despise the Islamist Mayor of London, Suckdick Khan, but he cannot have had any involvement in this scenario, because London has zero involvement in Yorkshire business. If this incide had happened in London, then I would totally agree. However – AGREED – Sharia May is utterly complicit and blameworthy. ?
Sam says
HOW CAN WE HELP THIS HERO?
Andy says
I’m TOMMY WE ARE ALL TOMMY! We have to come together and protest in every western civilized land, change the politicians, vote out politicians who are deliberately destroying our customs heritage and land. BE PROUD TO BE A PATRIOT OF YOUR LAND!
Politicians only want power and to hold onto power at any cost. Vote out these traitor b-stards that are ruining our lands.
STOP POLITICAL CORRECTNESS!
I’m (Spartacus-Tommy)-Stand United against Tyranny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKCmyiljKo0
Andy says
Michael Savage: Anti-immigration protester arrested in Britain & other topics – May 29 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mznn327LZCA
Andy says
Above link was taken down. Here is another from the show
May 29, 2018 Michael Savage Show / Full Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NuHPbyDRwA
Andy says
I saw this posted by Linda-Thank you and hope you don’t mind, my posting it here:
Again, Thank you Linda for posting this, Cheers! Andy
FREE TOMMY ROBINSON
Appeal to Elizabeth II upon the Matter of Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=23&v=2Jz3JTObwZ8
overman says
Yes, l listened to this excellent video last night. Thanks.
Felix Quigley says
LIKE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IN STALINIST RUSSIA…BY ROBERT SPENCER
The summary by Robert Spencer on the situation of the jailing of Tommy Robinson is masterly
“Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest”
Tommy is placed in the position of Becket.
This is a very useful discussion which is located in the history of Mohammed.
As a Trotskyist I agree with these guys and defend Tommy. This is all out of Allah! Britain, or more precisely the British ruling class, from the time of Lawrence have surrendered to Allah!
gravenimage says
Trotsky had over a thousand people slaugthered in Kronstadt in 1921 for daring to stand up for freedom of speech and against Soviet starvation policies. The idea that someone brave and principled like Tommy Robinson would have been safe under Trotsky is *very* questionable.
revereridesagain says
“Repellent”, more like it!
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
Video: David Wood, Jon McCray and Robert Spencer discuss the arrest of Tommy Robinson
…………………….
Thank you all for speaking out. This is an outrageous injustice against Tommy Robinson.
Cheryl Jones says
Henry ii
Stephen says
England and Germany are the points on the spear. While the enforcement there of “hate speech” evolved gradually there, it is like a steam locomotive here and in Canada.
In Olympia, Washington, Evergreen College (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/25/evergreen-state-students-demand-professor-resign-f/) has already banned certain speech and the presence of white people during the whites “Day of Absence.”
Just an example that doesn’t rely on speech about Islam or Muslims.
Lydia Church says
This is also like a holocaust against whites!
I will NOT be absent.
Let THEM be ashamed for suggesting it!
gravenimage says
There was a day *at an American state university* when it was demanded that a group be absent based on race? Good God…
Here’s more on this grotesque demand:
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/02/22/evergreen-state-cancels-day-absence-set-series-protests-and-controversies
This also resulted in threats to a professor who objected to this sick “Day of Absence”. As he notes, it is also unclear on the concept of the original idea–that minorities or women would be missed if they were absent (true), to a demand that white people stay away.
Carol the 1st says
Weinstein sounds like another Jordan Peterson! He puts his money where his mouth is. He accepted that in prior years certain groups had voluntarily absented themselves and he stated it was like “a forceful call to consciousness, which is, of course, crippling to the logic of oppression” but in 2017 when whites were encouraged to go away he considered it “a show of force, and an act of oppression in and of itself”. The resultant student reaction to his position was unbecoming.
Perhaps the request for whites not to attend was just poorly handled rather than being meant as a slight. Young students like to display their new sense of muscle but often have more book larnin’ than smarts.
Stephen says
Brigadier S. K. Malik wrote a book that everyone should read, The Quranic Concept of War, and with great insight pointed out that when the proper groundwork is done by insinuating Sharia in the enemy country, a violent war is never required for Islam to dominate and conquer the enemy. Islam can conquer a country by doing exactly what is being done in England, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, France, Canada, and unfortunately the United States.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is what Muslims are trying to do, and all too many dhimmis are complicit–as here.
silvergreycat says
Stephen,
Discover the Networks has a pdf copy available…
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/…/Quranic%20Concept%20of%20War.pdf
silvergreycat says
Above link won’t work. It will work if you follow these steps:
* go to the search engine… http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/search/
* enter ‘The Quaranic Concept of War’ into the engine and return
* the results page has the book’s link
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/search/
Ekondig G says
silvergreycat Thanks for the link, I didn’t have it yet. A preliminary scan indicates that it’s very relevant to the subject of rape gangs that Tommy Robinson has been exposing.
silvergreycat says
Ekondig G,
*… Thanks for the link*…You’re welcome.
silvergreycat says
(Updated notice!!!)
Above link won’t work. It will work if you follow these steps:
* go to the search engine… http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/search/
* enter ‘The Quaranic Concept of War’ into the engine and return
* the results page has the book’s link
Carol the 1st says
Stephen…looked it up and noticed that Jihad Watch had an article about it by RS back in 2007:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/the-quranic-concept-of-war
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Jayell says
Obviously you people in the USA do not know about the Weinstein-style epidemic of celebrity sex-scandal witch-hunts in the UK media that started curiously at the same as the first Muslim grooming gangs were being dragged to court after having been officially covered up for years. It started with a well-liked DJ and TV presenter who had died a few years earlier but who had had a somewhat ‘spicy’ private life. Since this person was was deceased there was not too much danger of defensive legal action. The media conducted a clearly-orchestrated character-assassination campaign against this person, which proved to be a most effective smoke-screen to cover the somewhat suppressed reports simultaneously coming out of the courts about the rape gangs. Since the ball had already started rolling on a national basis regarding the gangs, it was clear that more smoke was needed, so it appeared that the authorities fished around and came up with a well-loved and respected Australian entertainer to assassinate in style. Sadly, this person was still alive and ended up in jail although the stories kept the front pages busy for quite some time. And as the grooming-gang trials were continuing and expanding across the country, so the witch-hunt campaigns continued with police fishing expeditions throwing up all sorts of odd names against many of which no evidence could be found – after the names had already been publicised ( and of course provided a diversion)! The whole thing exploded with the predictable hounding of a famous veteran pop star to cover the outing of the Rotherham scandal. Unfortunately, this victim had the resources to fight back, which resulted in a police force having to settle out of court with a considerable compensation payout and the complicit BBC trying to defend itself in court. We haven’t the news of the outcome in the media. I wonder why???
revereridesagain says
Interesting. I thought I’d spotted all the misdirection campaigns, but that one didn’t occur to me. If #MeToo type accusations are political (and pop cultural) live grenades, something like the rape gangs (or the equivalent over here in the States) is a MOAB. Attention must be diverted!
Jayell says
It became very obvious when you realise (a) that all the muck-raking could have been done at any time in the years before the gangs were being exposed in court and (b) the authorities were clearly continuing to fish for likely candidates after the first victim had been exhausted. The choice of the final victim, Sir Cliff Richard, was obvious because of his squeaky-clean Christian high profile and a ‘big fish’ was needed to hide a big stink like Rotherham. So when we heard the rumblings about Rotherham in the press as the gangs were due to be paraded in court, I immediately thought that someone like Sir Cliff must be due for the chop and then – bullseye, dead on cue! Pathetically predictable! So who’s running this show and do they think we’re complete idiots? I’d like to know the outcome of Sir Cliff’s action against the BBC; the police settled out of court a long ago but nothing’s been in the news even though a ruling was due some time back. Has there been an unexpected delay or doesn’t the Government want people to know about the £multimillion payout through their licence fees? Or did something else come out in tha case?
High Hopes says
Jimmy Saville was a serial child rapist and alleged necrophiliac, not sure how that qualifies as ‘spicy’ in your world!
Jayell says
@High hopes – ‘Spicy’was a euphemism. Deliberate understatement. And I also avoided mentioning names, just in case you hadn’t noticed.
Stephen says
To further support my point that the U.S. is heading like a locomotive towards sharia, ABC network just announced that it has cancelled the Rosanne Barr Show because Rosanne tweeted something that ABC did not agree with. Rosanne has the freedom of speech under our First Amendment to speak, but ABC has chilled free speech again by cancelling Roasnne’s source of income.
silvergreycat says
John Nolte offers an alternative view…
*ABC Television is a business, and if their biggest star has just dropped a game-changer that forever altered the way the customers looked at their biggest star, and by extension, the business of ABC itself, what choice did ABC have?
And let’s give ABC some credit. Until Barr crossed the line, the network stood by her. Her Trump support, some of the controversial things she has tweeted out in the past, ABC did stand up for her right to hold and share her own opinions, no matter how controversial to the establishment, outside the workplace.
Barr’s racist “ape” comment is not a free speech issue. Outside of costing the network customers, imagine the disruption internally at ABC. If the network kept ‘Roseanne’ on the air, kept Barr as a star, what effect would that have had on the network’s black employees—both talent and crew? What does it say to them if such a thing is tolerated?
What Roseanne wrote about Jarrett is indefensible, is racist, and is legitimately hurtful to millions of decent people. I am glad Barr apologized, and, like every one of us, she deserves a second chance after some time has passed.
…And let me add this closing thought.
I am furious at Roseanne Barr, seething mad…Not only for what she tweeted, but over the fact that we finally got one over on Hollywood’s blacklist against conservatives and conservative ideas, we finally had a top-rated TV show that took our ideas seriously, a monster hit, a cultural game changer…
And in just a few months Roseanne Barr ###### it all up, lost it all.
Shame on her.
What she said was racist and indefensible. This is ALL on her, not ABC.*
Source… http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/05/29/abcs-firing-of-roseanne-barr-over-racist-ape-comment-is-justified/
revereridesagain says
Yes, she did #### up. However, the Left can call any of us any foul names they care to and woe be it unto anyone who objects. To say nothing of the fact that their lips are sealed as the Fakestinians and other Whores of Allah call the Jews apes and pigs.
Rosanne has given a lot of support to victims of sexual trafficking, something most people don’t know about. Wonder if that gave any extra impetus to her speedy removal from the Hollywood scene.
silvergreycat says
revereridesagain,
Joshua Caplan reports…
*Roseanne Barr says she is mulling her next move a day after ABC canceled the hit sitcom Roseanne — suggesting that fans and defenders have inspired her to fight her swift sacking over a controversial tweet.
“[Y]ou guys make me feel like fighting back. I will examine all of my options carefully and get back to U,” Barr tweeted Wednesday in response to an outpouring of support.
you guys make me feel like fighting back. I will examine all of my options carefully and get back to U.
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 30, 2018
“I am tired of being smeared,” she continued, “over a stupid mistake erasing 30 yrs of activism.”
Can you all help me get more followers here? The more I have the more my words will have weight. I am a fighter 4 FAiRNESS in all aspects of US life. I am tired of being smeared-over a stupid mistake erasing 30 yrs of activism.
— Roseanne Barr (@therealroseanne) May 30, 2018
Barr has not publicly suggested any specific course of action she may take.*
Source… http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/05/30/roseanne-barr-says-she-may-fight-abc-firing/
Lydia Church says
I heard that she said something like “islam is not a race, leftists” …?
Something said on here all the time. Interesting.
PRCS says
There are two sides to this event.
I took the time to watch this entire video
JW May 27, Brian Thomas
“The UK’s legal system has created very specific conditions around Tommy Robinson to silence him”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/home/page/2
As I understand it (although there certainly could be other reasons) the Crown’s concern was to prevent journalistic misinformation/misstatements from prejudicing the rape gang trials.
gravenimage says
Uh…right. Can’t have anyone saying anything bad about Muslims raping Infidel girls…
PRCS says
Did you watch Brian Thomas’ post?
revereridesagain says
Is that “Brian of London’s” post? Excellent and very thorough analysis.
PRCS says
Yes, revere, it was.
And, yes, I thought it was a thorough analysis.
I do hope Robinson gets released, but that post makes clear why that’s not likely to happen.
gravenimage says
PRCS, if you have a link I will watch it.
PRCS says
GI,
Listed in my first post, but just for you:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/home/page/2
PRCS says
Hmm,
Try this instead:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/05/the-uks-legal-system-has-created-very-specific-conditions-around-tommy-robinson-to-silence-him
PRCS says
And this:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-jailed-contempt-court-facebook-live-video-stephen-yaxley-lennon-a8374121.html
eduardo odraude says
Outstanding interview. In a way the best I’ve seen on this subject. Wood and Spencer make a truly brilliant tandem. Talk about firing with both barrels.
They both combine remarkable coherence and articulateness with a huge fund of knowledge, and the interviewer dealt with it perfectly.
Save Europe says
Agreed ?
Japetto Danatelli says
Thanks guys, an interesting discourse. Your arguments are always reasoned and humanitarian in purpose. You make me feel proud knowing there are people like you in the world. David offered a brilliant perspective here regarding the peaceful role you guys play with your intelligent appeals, while those who are denied a voice may resort to violence. He’s right, we are not the bad guys by speaking against the crimes and immoralities of islam, it’s our politicians and media-giants who fuel the flames of discord and hate by restricting free speech for islam. It soothes my soul to hear you defend free speech so passionately, without it there can be no true freedom. I’ve never felt so in tune with others about an issue, you feel like brothers to me. I know you are too humble to know your own greatness, so let me say it for you, you are great in your mission and efforts. I’m proud to mention your names every chance I get. Take care.
PRCS says
A bit more info about Robinson’s arrest:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/tommy-robinson-jailed-contempt-court-facebook-live-video-stephen-yaxley-lennon-a8374121.html
Tommy Robinson jailed after breaking contempt of court laws with Facebook Live video
“He admitted committing contempt of court by publishing information that could prejudice an ongoing trial via a live stream on his Facebook page.”
I think he’s in a lot of trouble. Legal trouble.
Save Europe says
May I compliment Mr McCray firstly as he is a black American – and he hasn’t been suckered in by the rhetoric that Muslims are a race of people, and that if you’re a person of colour one should immediately stand up for them, because the majority of them, are of colour. He hasn’t done so. A man to admire greatly ????. He gets the difference between race and ideology.
Infidel says
There is a BIG ELEPHANT in the room why the EU is fast losing its freedom of speech. THIS , IS NOTHING BUT THE INFILTRATION OF MUSLIMS DEEP INTO THE CORRIDORS OF ITS POWER. This is as simple as that… For goodness sake a Muslim is the Home Secy of the UK.. A Muslim is the mayor of London and many other Muslims all over the EU have wormed themselves deep into the Eu Power woodwork with sweet talk, inducements, and of course Taqiyya which Muslims specialize in day in and out. This is also happening in Canada and WILL HAPPEN IN THE USA TOO as the likes of CAIR and others like Huma infiltrate deep into the Senate and White House… HUMA ALMOST BECAME US SECY OF STATE…(Thank God it did not happen). Obama almost destroyed the USA from within the USA (Thank God Trump put a halt to this insidious process).. But Muslims NEVER GIVE UP and keep on trying if if means a 1000 years to Islamize the entire world.
Bill says
The mainstream media in England is crowing about how they got the reporting ban lifted on the Tommy Robinson case. Right. More accurately, they conspired with the government and the Judge to allow the mainstream media access to records and to present only the government’s side of the story. That is what they are doing. That is what they all do, all the time. Reading the mainstream reports today is like reading a government talking points page. Heck, the government probably wrote it.
The fix is in. Tommy Robinson is going to murdered in prison and the government is laying the propaganda justification for it.
PRCS says
Re: David Wood comment about death for apostasy…
About 2 years ago I sent a tweet to a Fox News journalist stating that, per Islam’s teachings, killing “unbelievers” is compliance.
He responded that I am clearly a part of the problem.
gravenimage says
You are “part of the problem” for knowing too much about Islam, PRCS.
Of course, I’m sure this idiot didn’t even bother to check out the accuracy of what you said, but just assumed it must be wrong.
PRCS says
No doubt.
Ddoe says
Time to put on hold our relationship with Britain. Especislly the USG it needs to cut off the five eyes intel relations and sharing. K has been 100% compromised.
Majit says
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kochi/Kerala-rape-case-Accused-had-sex-with-goat-suspect-police/articleshow/52792300.cms
Muslim raped goat after reading Koran
The goat was sent to veterinary experts following signs of injuries in its genital area
WPM says
Did they have to have 5 male goats testify that it was not consensual ?
Do they have the goat” honor killed” by it owner?
After the goat was honor killed do they sell the meat in a another village then the goat was from?
gravenimage says
Poor goat…
Charlie Martel says
Free Speech in America was largely achieved by the Industrial Workers of the World running the Free Speech Movement, doing in Spokane, exactly what David Wood describes, standing on soap boxes and one by one replacing whoever was arrested. Unfortunately nowadays the private prisons will laugh all the way to the bank. However, the Fascists have not yet found a way to make Gag Orders international.
gravenimage says
Not really–the Wobblies only underwent a modest revival in places like Berkeley during the 1960s–their heyday–such as it was–was much earlier. For instance, Mario Savio was not a member of the IWW.
And the FSM had little to do with free speech in any case–and more to do with hard Leftism.
Further, the idea that Americans did not enjoy freedom of speech until the Communists gave it to then in the ’60s is just silly.
Really, our freedom of speech has more to do with the First Amendment than it does with those out to destroy capitalism.
Brian hoff says
David you are wrong about alots of thing. First it than muslim leave Islam to join than group that is attacking Islam that muslim is guilty of treason. At our mosque we have people leave Islam no death threat against. That author who wrote that book the Satanic Verse did it to make money his over books are unreadable failure.
gravenimage says
Brian hoff–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:
David you are wrong about alots of thing. First it than muslim leave Islam to join than group that is attacking Islam that muslim is guilty of treason.
…………………………..
Muslims constantly declare other Muslims to be virtual non-Muslims and hence fair game to murder. There is even an Islamic doctrine for this–Takfir. Often these groups slaughter each other.
More:
At our mosque we have people leave Islam no death threat against.
…………………………..
Wow! We are supposed to be impressed that “DefenderofIslam’s” Mosque is not out sending hit squads against lapsed Mosque-goers *in Texas*. See–Islam must be peaceful! sarc/off
Will “Brian hoff” actually say that the murder of apostates is *wrong*? I doubt it–after all, that would go against the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed–which would, in fact, make “DefenderofIslam” an apostate himself…
More:
That author who wrote that book the Satanic Verse did it to make money his over books are unreadable failure.
…………………………..
I imagine there are many books the semi-literate “Brian hoff” considers unreadable.
The real question is whether he thinks that death threats against Salman Rushdie–and the murder of several of his literary associates–was wrong, or whether he supports this Islamic savagery.
Save Europe says
For a man with a Western name, Brian cannot even write coherent English! Notice that?
WPM says
If the author wrote the book to make money , or to make a point about Islam, or the book is almost unreadable that is not the point. The point is he had Islamic run government making a world wide death threat ,a religious back death threat as per the Koran to back it up against the author because the book said “bad ” things about Islam.
gravenimage says
Spot on, WPM.
Spot Light says
British politicians betrayed their own people,using
British police against British Christians citizens, to help
muslim invaders.
Politicianophobia says
Thank you gentlemen for showing great courage.
Jonathan Smith says
“Ezra Levant” appeared in the subtitles as “the excellent Hezbollah man” Oops. 🙂
Coach Martin says
Thank God for Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Robert Wood, Brigitte Gabriel and all others who daily risk their lives for us all.
The notion that a jury cannot be trusted with full disclosure is insane and insulting. How can a jury make an informed decision if the information that they seek is hidden from them? It is grooming our society into believing that only lawyers are to be trusted.
When lawyers have this much power, it is a small step to instructing the media to deceive us until we are overwhelmed by the truth . . . until it is too late to react.
Martin Luther knew that unless we turn to Jesus, God would be justified in handing us to Islam. This is exactly what is happenig.
Surely David Wood knows that Luther stated in 1530 that Islam was the Beast from the Sea. This was before the Beast appeared to be mortally wounded (1922) and before the Beast reappeared (2017). We have that knowledge. Luther was specifically talking about the Ottoman Empire (Erdogan) but for us, this is just a representave of Islam. Secondly Islam empowers the United Nations (150 votes out of 193). So the United Nations through its Globalist agenda, is changing the laws from Christian values to Satanic values. As predicted in prophecy, we now know the Earth Beast to be the United Nations (an incredibly apt description).
We must fight with Pamela Geller despite the certainty that we will lose. We must preserve our reputation before God and men for the sake of our children. This is what Jesus expects of the remnant who want to stand with Him until the end. So help us God.