In the Palestinian Authority, these marchers would be imprisoned and possibly even killed. In Israel, they’d be able to march. But the Left has long ago given up on reality and wholeheartedly embraced fantasy-based activism.
“After banning Jewish flags last year, Chicago Dyke March displays Palestinian flags,” JTA, June 25, 2018 (thanks to the Geller Report):
The Chicago Dyke March, a queer pride parade, prominently featured Palestinian flags one year after ejecting marchers waving Jewish flags.
Participants in Sunday’s march can be seen waving Palestinian flags in a video posted by the Windy City Times, a newspaper serving Chicago’s LGBT community. Marchers also waved Mexican, Puerto Rican and rainbow flags, and chanted “No pride in occupation, no pride in deportation,” according to the newspaper.
The march this year was explicitly “a very pro-Palestinian event,” according to the Windy City Times.
Last year, three women were ejected from the Dyke March for waving rainbow flags emblazoned with Jewish stars. Critics accused the march of anti-Semitism, and one woman at the march wrote on Facebook that “Removing those flags, and the people who marched with it, shows a deep level of ignorance, and yes, it also shows antisemitism masquerading as liberal values.”
One of the ejected women, Laurel Grauer, works for A Wider Bridge, a pro-Israel LGBT group.
“People asked me if I was a Zionist and I said ‘yes, I do care about the State of Israel, but I also believe in a two-state solution and an independent Palestine,’” Grauer said last year. “It’s hard to swallow the idea of inclusion when you are excluding people from that. People are saying ‘You can be gay but not in this way.’ We do not feel welcomed. We do not feel included.”…
Older Canadian says
In defense of their stupidity, they call themselves queer, so to behave and think queerly sort of makes sense.
PRCS says
Betcha every one of them has access to a computer and the Internet, and yet they remain so clueless.
Elisha says
Everything comes down to a desire, or lack thereof, to seek truth in their hearts. We ALL have a direct line to truth. It is that simple:
The LORD is near to all who call on Him, to all who call out to Him in truth. – Psalm 145:18
God bless.
Jayell says
They’re doing a very good impression of pathetic, posturing narcissists who’ve got nothing better to do with their time than draw attention to themselves for the sake of it by being ‘outrageous’ and ‘different’, as you might reasonably expect from a brainless bunch of spotty adolescents who’ve grown too big to throw their toys out of their prams (strollers). The annoying thing is that this lot depend on the tolerance of the decent, responsible majority for the privilege of behaving like entitled, spoilt, irresponsible brats trying to make a virtue of being bent as a nine-pound-note (to rephrase their own words!).
CogitoErgoSum says
Marching in support of a group of people who, if their practices were to be followed, would lead to the extinction of the human race, is not a good idea in my opinion. How much more exclusionary can you get than to encourage future exclusion of an entire species from the face of the Earth?
Frank Anderson says
C.E.S. “There are *at least* 3 sides to every story. . .” I think you are entirely correct that without the basic requirements of reproduction the human race would be extinct. But with technology, as long as there is one sperm donor, there can be reproductive activity. I can think of no more oppressive or miserable condition than to be forced or tricked into a heterosexual marriage, involving the legal noose of child support with a homosexual partner. Not every person is heterosexual. Not every person is homosexual. If each will simply be forthright about the preference and live accordingly there is no need for confrontations or misery.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’ve read that reproduction can be done with just an egg or through cloning. I still don’t think it’s a good idea and won’t be joining the parade to support it. Some people march to the beat of a different drum …. and that’s me. (Maybe some would call me queer too in that respect.) As for child-support, is it any more or less if the divorce is because of one of the spouse’s homosexuality? Isn’t it also miserable if one partner becomes impotent or frigid? Marriage, in my opinion, is supposed to be for better or for worse till death do you part. Let the buyer beware and know fully the terms of the contract.
Frank Anderson says
A contract entered by misrepresentation, including concealment of extremely relevant information, is a fraud. To say that a contract is forever condemns two people and their children to a life of misery that will be relieved only when one dies. My birth mother spent 36 years in an abusive marriage because her former church taught such crap. Approximately half of all marriages end in divorce because they are entered without any meaningful counseling and analysis. Without exploring my experience on that subject, I will offer the experience of going to law school without vocational counseling that would have informed me that lawyer was number 463 out of 900 of occupational choices for me. I did not find out until 22 years after graduation and an exciting but entirely unprofitable practice.
I write again about the 2 lessons of Exodus: 1) No matter how well something starts things change; 2) God does not want any of His Children (ALL who call upon Him as Father) to live in any form of slavery. Living in a legal commitment induced by fraud is slavery. Let the people who desire different relationships have them with those who share their interests, and stay out of relationships of Hell on Earth.
CogitoErgoSum says
I’ve heard of a thing called an annulment also. Fraud seems like a good reason to allow for that. You can call certain ideas crap if you wish to do so. I do the same. We live in a world of crap.
Frank Anderson says
She lived almost every day of 36 years threatened with violence from an alcoholic abusive husband. The only reason he was restrained was the presence of my half-brother who was substantially larger and stronger. Annulments are legally available under narrow circumstances, but almost certainly not when children are involved. In either case, divorce or annulment, the marriage ends. With 1 telephone call I gave my mother the strength, courage and self-respect to declare, “I deserve better”. Until you have lived in a fraudulent marriage, an abusive marriage or seen up close and personal, whether as a child watching your mother being threatened or otherwise, you just don’t know what you advocate. Are you sure you are not muslim?
CogitoErgoSum says
I’ve also heard of a thing called a legal separation. No. I am not a Muslim. I’m a Catholic. Are you sure you were a lawyer?
Frank Anderson says
CES, the supreme courts of 2 states say I am a lawyer on retired status, not was, were or used to be. I have an honored friend who is a Catholic lawyer who has had to end about 5 marriages of his own, not to mention those he handled for others. How can muslim abuse be criticized when the same abuse is permitted/tolerated/encouraged? Something is missing from a teaching that demands surrender to abuse, whether it be muslim, Catholic or Lutheran.
CogitoErgoSum says
If you think my being against divorce means I support any kind of abuse you are very much mistaken and following faulty logic. If your mother was being constantly abused by your father I think you all would have been better off if he had lived somewhere else until he could prove he was able to treat the rest of his family with the dignity and respect you deserved. I’m truly sorry you had no one to help you.
Frank Anderson says
The good news is that I was adopted before they met. My adopted father was a really good, not perfect man. I was 38, 29 years after the death of my adopted father, that my adopted mother told the truth for the first time. A year later she died. I wrote and conducted her funeral because I would not allow a stranger to speak for her. Then I drove more or less a thousand miles in summer heat without air conditioning to find out what I could. In 4 hours I had my birth mother’s name and telephone number. Two hours later I figured out what to say that would not give her a heart attack or sound like some kind of blackmail and called her.
Following the death of my adopted father, my mother married a man who took to throwing things at her while sitting in a room built by my official adopted father. I was not there when it started; but was when it stopped. Part of the reason I am the sweet, charming person I am today. “Walk a mile in the other person’s shoes before judging.”
CogitoErgoSum says
Frank, it sounds like the mother and father who adopted you were very fine people and you loved them very much. I don’t know how the relationship with your biological mother is going but I hope it’s one of respect and love also. I don’t know what to say about the abusive father who came into your life, but he must have been living with some kind of pain to turn to alcohol for relief. Again, I wish this man who abused your mother so much could have gotten some help to overcome his problem. He needed help as much as the rest of you did. I hope the future holds better for you, Frank, I really do.
Frank Anderson says
CES, From what I have seen but cannot prove and take as a matter of faith, God has been doing his part in all of this. My adopted mother finally cut loose from the abuser. My official adopted father and mother were “as good as the times permit”. Both are long dead in this world but still alive with and through me. My birth mother had about 20 years of freedom and independence from her abuser until she died. I am still alive; I believe at least in part to share what I have seen and learned to help others either avoid or reduce their suffering. I, and hope you, serve a God of Life, Freedom, Love and Progress. I share with you a wish that a commitment endures; but have seen where imperfect humans make commitments that should end. After advising and handling many bankruptcy cases, imperfect people make mistakes. I know it is written in Deuteronomy (16:1?I that there should be a “release” offered every 7 years. I think that is the Biblical prescription for bankruptcy in our time.
I wish that I had obtained pre-marital counseling as well as vocational counseling from thorough and qualified professionals before I made those really bad decisions. “Blessed are the merciful for they shall obtain mercy”. Is mercy shown by compelling one to stay in a fraudulent or abusive relationship?
revereridesagain says
For better or worse till death do you part per the married couple or some imaginary god you expect to reward you for your piety? Marriage is between two human beings. Their welfare should always come first. If things become irreversibly wrong, they have the right to try again to find happiness, whether you think that pleases some “lord” or not.
CogitoErgoSum says
Well, rev, I”m thinking marriage is for having children and the children’s welfare is what should come first … but you can think whatever you like.
Rarely says
I agree with Frank Anderson 100% and although I appreciate your humane outlook of all concerned CES you are somewhat misinformed especially about alcoholism. It would be great if the World is as you see it but it isn’t.
I have seen too many disasters and ruined lives of blameless children to support anything like ‘until death do us part”.
CogitoErgoSum says
I am getting a bit old so maybe marriage vows don’t include the till death do we part bit these days. What is it now …… till the going gets tough? I did not exclude living separately until things could be worked out but I guess that doesn’t count. And where am I misinformed about a person with alcoholism needing help? Are they a totally lost cause?
Rarely says
CES.
I’m certainly not suggesting bailing out when the going gets tough. Where alcoholism is concerned there are steps that the non-alcoholic spouse can take (e.g. Al-Anon). BUT when violence is involved the violence almost always escalates if the alcoholic doesn’t get sober. Each case is different but it is hard to criticize when someone who is being brutalized bails.
Alcoholics are NOT a lost cause and, of course they should be given help — many get sober and stay so for life. However, all too often the non-alcoholic spouse, while trying with all his/her might to give that help is merely enabling the alcoholic to continue drinking. If in doubt call Al-Anon unless there is a clear and present danger then call the police.
The biblical lesson for this comes from the David and Goliath story the moral of which is “DUCK”.
CogitoErgoSum says
Well, the moral you draw from the story of David & Goliath is totally different than mine. Mine is that with a little faith, strength and perseverance any problem, no matter how big, can be overcome. Guess that says it all for me. Too big of subject to go any farther. Still enjoy talking here with you guys. Be well.
Mark Swan says
Findings from a Study of Unhappy Marriages.
http://www.americanvalues.org/search/item.php?id=13
Kepha says
Good points!
JawsV says
Bravo divorce! Things change. That’s how it is. And yes violent alcoholics are often a lost cause.
gravenimage says
I agree with Frank. I do not believe that divorce should ever be undertaken lightly, but in cases of abuse it is *definitely* the best choice.
And Frank, I am so glad that you and your mother had another chance at happiness.
Frank Anderson says
Honored GI, with a great smile and thanks to God, let me share that my adopted mother and I had a year after she finally told the truth to make peace with each other before she died, then later another “mother by choice” on her behalf and I spent 5 more years extending that peace. My birth mother and I had about 20 years of her freedom to know each other and celebrate the Gift of God in bringing us together. She gave me life and 39 years later she helped me keep it to find new and better purposes that continue today. The God of Life is Great, not the god of death, slavery and evil.
Ray Jarman says
It does seem that these women are yearning for the Darwinian Award. Maybe someone should set up an organization to collect donations to provide air fare to Pakistan, Somalia, Sudan, Mauritania, Bangladesh or even the West Bank or Gaza for some of these women and find out if they still believe that Islam is wonderful and that the Jewish State is the enemy.
TheBuffster says
CogitoErgoSum: “Marching in support of a group of people who, if their practices were to be followed, would lead to the extinction of the human race, is not a good idea in my opinion. ”
Cogito, most homosexuals who march aren’t doing it to encourage heterosexuals to become gays and lesbians. It does seem that most gay rights groups have idiotic political views and those who march tend to be SJW types, but that by far isn’t most gays. Just to name a few gays who aren’t on that side, I give you Bruce Bawer, Douglas Murray, and Milo.
If everyone chose to become Catholic priests and nuns that also would put an end to the human race. Does that mean we should discourage anyone from becoming a priest or a nun, because if everyone became a priest or a nun that would end reproduction?
If a person isn’t interested in having sexual relations at all, should he or she force themselves to marry and have sex as some kind of duty to the human race? If a person can’t bear the thought of being a parent, should that person force themselves to be one anyway? Is having kids the only legitimate reason to live?
There are billions of people on earth. Some don’t want children, many do. A few are homosexual, most are not. I’m not a lesbian. I simply am not. The thought of having sexual relations with another woman is nauseating to me, because I’m not homosexual. And no one could ever convince me to live as one. I would be miserable forcing myself to do that. I also would have been miserable marrying a man I didn’t love and didn’t want to commit to for life just in order to do some duty to have children.
People differ from each other in many ways. And it would be disaster if people carried out your reasoning on this subject in many areas: What would happen if everybody decided to become a physician? Why, there would be no school teachers or garbage collectors or farmers or miners or… etc.
That doesn’t mean that no one should become a physician.
But because of human variety, it will never be that all people are suited to or will want to all be physicians. The same goes for sexual preferences. The majority of people will not be homosexual. And even fewer will turn out to be trans.
HarveyMushman says
Yes…show support for people who would kill you..and reject people that would tolerate you. Makes sense to me….
JawsV says
These lesbians are so dumb.
elee says
Just some more inexplicable female psychology.
JawsV says
Lesbian females. Leftists. Their psychology.
revereridesagain says
Dykes and Muslims. A match that could only be made at your local Unitarian church.
Kepha says
That one had me in stitches!!!!
gravenimage says
Not all women think like this.
elee, this is hardly the first time you have said such things about women. If you feel this way, have I got a religion for you!
762x51FMJ says
Political Islam and Marxist Socialism share the belief that if you can silence someone’s freedom
you can then silence their existence.
FYI says
What next?
Pedophiles for Palestine….
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Jewish flag is a symbol of genocide and ethnic cleansing. using it is the same thing as using Nazi flag. wicked scums of evils!!
revereridesagain says
Allahoochiekoo gonna reward you with more renewable party ladies for that one, O ho of the Prophet?
Rarely says
Now here’s an argument for mandatory birth control — IBRAHIM !!!
Did your parents have any children that lived?
(and that’s the NICEST thing I can say about him).
gravenimage says
Why doesn’t Ibrahim itace muhammed tell us what he would have done to these lesbians. The only question is whether he thinks they should be hung from cranes, or else thrown from tall buildings?
Rarely says
Great point. Wish I’d thought of it.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Rarely.
DHazard says
If “they” hate “us” then we support “them” even though “they” hate us. The war against white, non Muslim, males is riddled with hypocrisy and immense blind spots.
Indiana Tom says
Stupidity more than anything else. They drank too much Progtard Kool Aid.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Dhazard, what do you mean by “white christians “?you mean you white mithraist christians are the supporters of the most wicked fascist evil Zionist state of Israel? I’m sure Arab Christians in the middleast who oppose fascist evil Zionist expansionist ambitions are more good than you ugly monkeys who look like wild animals. Fools!!
gravenimage says
Why doesn’t Ibrahim itace muhammed tell us what he would do to these lesbians if he had the chance?
Rarely says
Their actions are all too common. What we are seeing is normal everyday antisemitism. It is simply vile hatred with no basis. It is almost as if it is part of the DNA of some people. They don’t THINK antisemitism they FEEL it. Rational arguments are totally useless. Take Ibrahim for example.
Rarely says
I’m not writing about the muslims, whose antisemitism can be taken for granted, but the knee-jerk antisemitism of the gay community. It is clear as glass when they have many reasons to align with Israel –self-preservation being a pretty good one and many reasons not to align with muslim groups — self-preservation being a good one … again.
So, in the face of all reason to the contrary, they align against the ever available Jews and AGAINST their own best interests. That is a pretty good definition of antisemitism.
HugoHackenbush says
Internecine fighting within the lesbian political community? Gives new meaning to the old saying that “the left always eats its own”.
Giacomo Latta says
A true Marxist always tries to be to the left of every other Marxist so he/she can claim to have the ”right” opinion.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… the Left has long ago given up on reality and wholeheartedly embraced fantasy-based activism…”
Sadly this is the case. The themes of interest during my left wing upbringing bears little resemblance to today’s Postmodern political obsessions. It is not an exaggeration to describe a type of madness that has descended upon contemporary political consciousness across an array of militant fashionable causes.
gravenimage says
After banning Jewish flags last year, Chicago Dyke March displays “Palestinian” flags
………………….
Suicidal idiocy. As an example, the “Palestinian” gay group had to set up in Israel. It was too dangerous in the “Palestinian” territories.
Indiana Tom says
“After banning Jewish flags last year,
So what is a Jewish flag?
I know what an Israeli flag is.
Rarely says
No such thing but the article says they Stars of David on the gay flag.
Rarely says
..”they PUT Stars of David…”
terry says
Left is right, up is down, and back is front- confused people have a privileged liberty in America to be confused! But to become dictatorial and tyrannical in expecting me, or all of US, to agree, walk with, and condone that state of confusion is NOT their privileged right nor freedom! Be and become whatever your confusion leads you to be confused about, but leave your confusions at home and leave our homes alone! Your freedoms end at where our rights begin! I do not expect nor demand that you walk in my pursuits of happiness, liberties, and properties- do not persist in trying to walk in mine and calling it just, freedom, and right! I do not call you names; do not call me names. I do not expect you to do what I do;do not expect me to do as you do. You have equal laws that apply to one and all; do not keep attempting to unlawfully and unconstitutionally unduly demand special laws, special privileges, special rights, and special empowerment’s! Live in your world, your home, and peacefully assemble to espouse your beliefs; but cease and desist in using violence, intimidation, legislation, adjudication, and education to infringe upon the rest of U.S….
Lorensacho Byzantine says
Chicago’s dykes are stupid not to realize that Living gay under the Palestinians can lead to death and torture. What a bunch of losers.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.