I’ve faced protests before, but nothing like this. This week, I was prevented from entering a building, on police advice, because a left-wing mob was deemed uncontrollable and a threat to public safety – and it was me they were after. This is the current state of “democratic” Britain. I am a candidate in a by-election, being held today, to replace a member of our national Parliament. The short campaign has been vicious, and the media as usual is behind it.
We live in a Britain where the press openly lies about political candidates, placing them and others in danger. We live in a Britain where all of this is egged on by Her Majesty’s Opposition, an increasingly threatening Labour Party.
For years now, I’ve been labeled a racist and a fascist by a treacherous domestic media. Their work is done, because I can no longer move around freely and safely, and I can no longer take part in a Parliamentary hustings, because crowds of extreme leftists threaten my life. Reports claim that attendees were refused entry, others were spat at, and some were even pushed to the ground outside a venue in Lewisham, south London, where the election takes place. Police advised me and my security team not to approach the venue, because 100s of so-called “anti-fascists” were waiting.
In the end, the only hustings event in this election, the only opportunity for voters to question candidates, was cancelled to protect public safety.
My crime is a simple one: I criticise Islam. I truthfully point out that the abhorrent crimes routinely committed in its name come directly from its doctrines. I’ve told the painful truth that the jihadism, the apostasy-violence, the forced marriage, the honour violence, the FGM, and the genocidal Jew-hatred can all be found amidst the pages of Islamic scripture. Telling this observable and verifiable truth is more than enough to subject a person to the media’s Orwellian “two minutes hate”.
The media is not alone in advancing these lies; this country’s official opposition, the Labour Party, works in tandem to endanger the lives of its political opponents. The increasingly hard-Left Labour fielded a candidate in Lewisham (from a short-list that excluded anyone who was white) who promptly took the opportunity to boycott the hustings on the flimsy excuse that she wouldn’t “share a platform” with a fascist. In doing this, she repeats the lie and the crowd becomes angrier.
Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour leader, added his weight when he visited Lewisham to support his candidate. While there, he confirmed that yes, Labour candidate Janet Daby was right to refuse a platform with a “racist”…. and the crowd becomes angrier still.
While standing in solidarity with the Lewisham Islamic Centre – one of the most notorious mosques in the country and attended by the killers of Lee Rigby — Labour is whipping up potential riots in order to silence inconvenient views.
Labour and the British press have declared me a racist and a fascist and absolutely no evidence has been offered by either to back up this claim. So void of evidence are they that they refuse to debate me at all. The party of government, the so-called “Conservatives”, joins them in this boycott.
The result is a feral crowd, urged on by government and media lies, demanding that a candidate be denied access to voters. They succeed, and the entire event is cancelled.
All of this is happening for one reason; Islam. The British establishment is both terrified of Islam and enamoured of it. Given the prevalence of the extreme Left in both media and government, Islam is beloved for its anti-Western hate, its political and religious totalitarianism, and its violence. These things go down very well with the hard-left, who simply cannot fathom why anyone is allowed to disagree with them.
Our democracy is dead and left-wing fascism has replaced it. Islam now utterly dominates and the press, the police, and the government have fallen in to line. If we are to survive, with any freedoms intact, we must fight our own government, and our own press. We have an enormous task, but we also have the greatest weapon of all – the truth about the teachings of Islam. Nothing can take that away.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
In the end it is truth that will destroy the cult of islam. Truth is kryptonite to islam.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Susan B, Islam is exactly the truth while filthy mithraist christianity is a collection of lies inspired by the Satan (Holy Spirit) the father of all evils and lies
SoCalMike says
Now go have sex with a donkey like so many Mohammedans love to do.
Allah is the pagan moon god and he has no prophet.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
socalmike, your Satan god you call Holy Spirit is homosexual having anus sex with you and that is why you produce horrible bad smells. shits!!
Cicero says
This jibe is an insult to”pagans” which term literally means country dwellers .
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Anne Marie Waters, thank you so much taking the time to write this article.
I and the vast majority of JW readers wish you the very best in this campaign.
Do not lose spirit in your struggle. We are with you.
JawsV says
Shut-up Muslim you in-bred moron. You are evil and so is your religion.
Mark Swan says
Anne Marie Waters,
Do not let these mindless reproaches harden your good heart.
Their days are definitely numbered—the vast majority of
people are not for Islam—thus the obvious, excessive,
behavior of those that feign support for Islam.
This pushy, special people status will backfire on Muslims—
their obnoxious, pervasive disruption of western culture will
be stifled by ordinary people who just will not be pushed any
more. —politics will follow perceived public opinion.
Do Not Duck Your Head To Anyone.
You Are Not Alone.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Godspeed you, Anne Marie Waters, into the house of parliament!
tim gallagher says
I really hope that you are right, Mark, and that the days of Islam and its backers are indeed numbered. It is depressing to hear what things are like in the treatment of Anne Marie in the UK at present. What a great description she gives of the dire situation. As she says, she’s telling “verifiable” truths about Islam’s revolting barbaric acts and the leftie Islamophiles violently shut her down. She also tells the truth about why the left are allies of Islam. Anne Marie Waters is a brave heroine and truth teller. It would be bloody terrifying for her and the other fighters against Islam to face these violent fascist scum. I hope vast numbers of the ordinary people rise up and back Anne Marie soon.
Angus66 says
“Susan B, Islam is exactly the truth while filthy mithraist christianity is a collection of lies inspired by the Satan (Holy Spirit) the father of all evils and lies”
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islam is nothing but a violent, intolerant, death-cult whose founder was a murderous, lying, self-serving pedophile.
Any sane, tolerant and civilized person rejects islam in it’s entirety and with good reason.
eduardo odraude says
Eddie,
The teachings of Christ are benign, that’s true. But you have to be blind not to see the possible truth of the essential Christian doctrines. Suppose they are not true. Nevertheless, to call them bat shit mad is itself bat shit mad, or at least blind as a bat. What is bat shit mad is to think that everything is matter and nothing but matter, that the mind is only the brain, etc. To reduce love to the mere electro-chemical reactions that sometimes accompany love not only means you confuse correlation with cause. It also means one has never loved fully and intensely and truly enough to notice that love simply cannot be fit into a purely material paradigm. But once you drop the materialist blinders, there is nothing terribly batshit about religion or spirituality, though aspects of religions can of course be mad, in particular the “religion” of Muhammad.
Anyway, the world is a damned strange place. We are not living in the world of nineteenth century physics anymore. We have things like non-local connections, particle-wave dualities, and other bizarre things, such as the physicist-observer’s choice somehow determining the resulting observation.
Not only that, but the odds that our universe would be organized so exactly in a way that supports life are, according to scientists, trillions or quadrillions or quintillions to one! That is how unlikely it is that the various physical constants would be calibrated so precisely where they must be to sustain life and consciousness. I guess that is called the anthropic principle. Some scientists seek to escape the resulting appearance that the universe was designed, or course. Such scientists argue that it doesn’t matter that the odds of a life- and human-supporting universe are a quintillion to one. Why doesn’t it matter? Because, they say, there might be an infinite number of universes (even though by definition these other universes can never be observed, which makes the hypothesis untestable and hardly science). The fact that our universe is indeed one in a quintillion requires no designer to explain it, as far as the multiverse scientists are concerned. It’s not odd that we would be in such a rare universe — after all, any living creature can only exist in precisely such a universe, and could know nothing of the quintillions of universes where there is no life. But this hypothesis of an infinite number of universes that by definition can never be observed really should be cut away with Occam’s razor. It just happens that the simpler hypothesis in this case is that life in the universe is no accident. The universe itself is alive, mind-imbued, spiritual. Once that is recognized and experienced, then one sees truth underlying religion. Besides, if you claim that matter is all there really is, you end up with an infinite regress of causes. At some point you must come to a First Cause, and that First Cause must have no prior cause, must be self-subsistent, pure self-supporting presence and emergence. That irreducible presence is what some designate with the word “God,” or others simply call “Truth.” Insofar as we participate consciously in truth, we participate in an uncaused presence, a kind of First Cause.
RonaldB says
For eduardo:
“At some point you must come to a First Cause, and that First Cause must have no prior cause, must be self-subsistent, pure self-supporting presence and emergence.”
Give me a break.
You give a patina of scientific knowledge and then make the assumption that because there are things we don’t understand that, calculated one way, are improbable, there is a “prime mover” whose characteristics we can infer.
Your logic is: anything complex and unlikely by some calculation has to have a creator. Of course, since that is an infinite series, you say, without any evidence at all, that the line must stop somewhere with a “prime creator”. But, it stands to reason a “prime creator” is more complex than his creations, and thus, by your logic, a “prime creator” has to have a creator. But, if you say, once we reach a certain complexity, we can assume no creator is needed, then why not apply that to the observable universe?
I should add I am not opposed to religion. Religion is a belief system. By definition, belief means you adhere to an idea without evidence. “Faith” is another word for religious belief. If faith bad? Certainly not. Where you run off the rails is trying to convert belief into science, which negates the idea of religious faith anyway, which ideally means the voluntary choice of accepting god’s existence. So, by demolishing your specious argument that the existence of god can be proven, I am not displaying the least hostility to religious faith.
billybob says
Eduardo Odraude – that was a fascinating essay!
Gene says
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic and stupid.
JawsV says
The Muslim? He’s SERIOUS! A perfect example of how Islam produces evil.
LeftisruiningCanada says
He’s either in earnest, or it’s one of the longer and more committed trollings i’ve come across.
Norger says
He’s in earnest and it’s a good thing he’s here to serve as “Exhibit A” for the Islamic mindset. You can’t make this stuff up. The Mithraist Christian shtick is an absolute hoot.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed, it is a hoot.
All the more so, because the fews times he has tried to being some evidence forward in support of his bizarre claims, they have failed so easily and completely that he now usually just hides.
eur says
Having the freedom to doubt anything, that’s the real truth. During the Middle Ages religious fundamentalism prevented questioning any aspect that was against religious dogma…. the punishment was death. Western societies have evolved to allow freedom of thought, Islamic societies are anchored in that fundamentalism. It is not allowed to be different, the absolute truth is written and whoever dares to question it will be eliminated. Congratulations Muslims… you are the greatest fascist scum on the face of the earth. All religions have more radical branches than others, all societies have progressive and conservative groups. Islamic societies are all inquisitorial.
revereridesagain says
Finally, some sanity amid the squabbling over myths and fairy tales. In that hierarchy, it’s the fundamentalist, inquisitorial, and above all, the arrogant delusionoids who believe they have the “god (in this case, Allah) given right” to impose their myths and fairy tales on others by force. Those are the ones who must absolutely be fought and defeated, because the rest at least respect our right to reach our own conclusions.
Richard says
Eduardo Odraute: That was a wonderful and inspiring short essay. Haver you read Bea’s book: “Darwin’s Black Box”? Bea is a scientist who proves how, chemically and biologically, Evolution is utterly impossible on a molecular and cellular level. On a harsher point, if all we are are chemical reactions, what is the difference between killing someone and flushing a can of Draino down the toilet? Why waste money on charity when the homeless can be used by the army for bayonet practice? That is the logical outcome of atheism.
MFritz says
You are not from Nigeria, you are not a muslim, you are using a fake account and you are spreading propaganda. You are a CRIMINAL and a LIAR. Do not feed the troll!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Prove it, Ibrahim my sweetness, by engaging in something like rational discussion on single topics.
Everything else is mere grandstanding.
Michael says
You keep your blasphemy off this blog. And take your camel piss wuth you!
Richard says
Well are you named for the angel who cast satan out of heaven!
Hari Singh says
The Qur’an affirms the inspiration of the Christian scriptures (see 3:3–4, 7:157, 10:94, etc.). It also commands Christians to judge by what we read in the gospel (5:47), which makes no sense if the gospel has been significantly altered.
Contrary to Muslim charges of corruption, the Qur’an claims that no one is capable of corrupting God’s Word (6:114–115, 18:27)
Thus, a dilemma rises to the surface. If the Gospels are reliable, Muhammad cannot be a prophet, because the Gospels contradict Muhammad’s teachings. Alternatively, if the Gospels are unreliable, Muhammad cannot be a prophet, because Muhammad proclaimed the inspiration, preservation, and authority of the Christian scriptures. Either way, Muhammad cannot be a prophet.
Muhammad is not a true prophet
Koran says Jesus did not die on cross it just looked that way. Sura Al Nisah
”And [for] their saying, “Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah .” And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.surah al nisah 4:157
Making Allah the perpetrator of the world biggest fraud as 1/3 Of the world’s people believe that. So allah is a deceiver, who is the great deceiver?
Koran says Jesus did not rise from the dead or die on the Cross.
The Koran urges Christians to read the Bible so it is not corrupted, the Bible says Jesus predicted he would die on the cross and rise from dead.
So if Jesus made false predictions he is not a prophet and neither is Muhammad for believing in him.
If Jesus is true Muhammad is not. You cannot believe the Koran and the New Testament, if one is true the other is not. If the Koran is true then the bible is false, but Muhammad said the Bible is true [see above]
If Muhammad is true Jesus is not and therefore Muhammad is not true for believing in Jesus who made false predictions about suffering on the Cross and later Rising from the dead.
Muhammad has tricked you, he has gotten you to bow down, kiss, circumambulate, lavishly dress and pray to a black idolatrous box.
There are no Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Bahais, Sikhs, Buddhists only spirit souls in Eternal relationship with the Loving Supreme Personality who has told us we are his children and we are all brothers and sisters..
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Hari singh, Quran never affirmed all of the present mithraist christian and Jewish scriptures. Allah says :
“fihi hudan (there some guidance in those scriptures). The present day mithraist christian Bible, for example, is a mixture of what Jesus truly taught (a guidance) and pagan doctrines like Godman and begotten son of God (corruption). other verses specifically pinpointed at such corruptions imported into the original messages, which render them unreliable. so, your argument must fall like a cardhouse. Ignorant fool!!
Cicero says
Eh? Que >? A la Fawlty Towers.
LeftisruiningCanada says
‘corruptions’ and alterations that you, nor any other person, has ever been able to even show a hint of evidence for.
You know this, which is why you never try.
Anything else my dear?
eduardo odraude says
Here’s the Islamic dilemma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_0Z62-GO8
Rev G says
Sadly you know nothing of the history of Mithraism, it did not influence Christianity, rather the opposite, silly brain dead muslim. Still, they shared little in common, outside of the adoption of some Christian concepts by Mithraism.
gravenimage says
What does Ibrahim itace muhammed consider evil?
Opposing FGM, child marriage, the crushing of freedom, rape, persecution, and mass slaughter.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I think his motivation was to bait us into polluting the comment section of this noble post with bickering. Sadly, I think he has more or less succeeded. I hope this does not dispirit her.
WE ARE WITH YOU ANNE MARIE WATERS.
Mo says
IIM, you are brainwashed.
Save Europe says
White??? Are you racist much?!?! There are loads of white Muslims – yet it’s interesting how you play the race card, you piece of scum. The entirety of people who post on here, are bored with your B.S.
John says
Your own words condemn you for out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks
Michelle says
Omg…. How dare you sin against God’s holy Spirit. You come from a very dark place indeed. I feel sorry for you.
Roderick MacUalraig says
What is the truth?
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
The truth is that islam is a fascist death cult with a female hating killing manual that commands the rape and murder of non muslims who refuse to bow down to some female hating pagan moon god. islam commands that muslims conquer the world for their psycho god. Don’t take my word for read the koran, the hadiths and the sira. They make Mein Kampf seem tame. For further proof look to islamic countries.
If you have no knowledge of islam why are you even here. islam is no more a religion than Nazism.
gravenimage says
Good post, Susan B. Islam needs to be exposed!
Richard says
Susan B: IF people have access to the truth and IF people believe it. You may recall Casandra warning the citizens of Troy to “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts!” Come to think of it, those Greeks could be thought of as immigrants.
Don McKellar says
There was a strange period of time over the past few decades when Liberals in the mainstream media and academia were replaced by Left-Fascists. Sadly we see far too many right-leaning pundits and commentators calling them liberals, and running people down for being “liberals” but these people are left-fascists and the exact opposite of liberalism. The damage they have done everywhere from modern society and politics, all the way to corrupting science, is astounding and reprehensible.
Roderick MacUalraig says
Sound words. I’m a liberal. As in I want my liberty. And I want it for my children & grandchildren.
I’d kill thousands to preserve that for them.
If I could only tell you, Mac.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
The fascist without their muslim foot soldiers will be left naked and afraid.
RichardL says
but in Britain these muslim footsoldiers are aplenty.
Cicero says
Their demography is exploding . Along the pavements in Londonistan strut the twenty something pregnant muslimas pushing double buggies with a couple of toddlers clutching at their abayas / jeans/ shalwar kameezes etc
Richard says
This is why nations always wanted their citizens to have children. They were a requirement for the survival of the state. We reap what we sow or don’t sow. Native Americans largely restricted their children whereas white settlers bred like rabbits.
DragarOz says
Correct, imagine if Hitler had as many soldiers in Britain prior to WW2.
gerard says
This woman, Anne Marie Waters, is magnificent! Very few have the awareness and the courage to speak openly and truthfully about the situation in UK. Those who do are either arrested: Tommy Robinson, or banned: Robert spencer, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, (his ban was appealed and overturned), Lauren Southern (banned for life). People like Anne Marie are signs of hope in a very dark world.
Michael Warden says
Don’t forget Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen of Britain First.
gravenimage says
They should be released. They never should have been imprisoned to begin with. Like Tommy Robinson, a travesty of justice.
Emilie Green says
Anne Marie Waters. A brave and most needed leader. Leader in the most important sense. While my efforts are smaller than hers, I’m happy to work with her in this grand exercise of presenting the truth about Islam.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Tom says
It would not be wrong to compare Corbyn to Hitler and Antifa to his Brownshirts.
I will let others, well known people, say what must be said.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable” John F. Kennedy
“The fascists of the future will call themselves anti fascists” Winston Churchill
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Voltaire
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” Winston Churchill.
Corbyn and his Antifa thugs will destroy the Britain that was once the cradle of free speech and a bastion of democracy.
R Russell says
It is being reported on info wars that Tommy Robinson is being transferred to a high security prison with 71% Muslim population. Last night the Muslims in the medium security prison where he was (Is) have been chanting about his death.
Please pray for Tommy
Cicero says
Is that all we can do ? Pray !?
Prayer is just no longer enough folks
gravenimage says
Truly alarming.
Gjallarhornet says
In the long run, there is no way the public is going to take all the humiliations lying in store for them with the authorities import of mulim migrants. No way. Yes, people may seem docile now, they may even BE docile. But the put downs and degradations have just started – they haven’t even begun in earnest yet. This is going to get much worse. People are angry now. And after they have seen what’s coming down the pike, they are unlikely to be very happy. I find some hope in this of course, but there is also a great deal of fear. God knows where it all will lead too,
melek-ric says
Yes – how much longer can the status quo last? Five years? Ten? What will Britain look like in another decade if the social pressure and fragmentation we’re already witnessing continue at their present intensity?
With the way things are going there can only be two outcomes in the long run (ie: 15 to 50 years forward). Either Britain will capitulate to a Marxist-Islamic government, which will only become more Islamic as time passes and demographic and cultural forces suffocate the weakening voice of the numerically diminishing native Anglo-Saxons, or there will be a civil war. Either scenario will bring irreversible changes to British society, which even now can never go back to what it was prior to 1960, even if that was desired.
gravenimage says
Or British patriots could stand up and demand some accountability from their government.
Cicero says
Alas the State Security apparatus has got dissenters covered and stitched up
Russell says
As a former Labour voter in the past, I would like the Labour Party to know that I don’t vote for fascists or racists, and that is precisely why I will not be voting for Labour ever again. Labour, who share direct responsibility for the most overtly racist crimes in British history with the ever unfolding horrors of 30 years of countless thousands gang rapes of schoolgirls by racist UK muslims emulating their prophet, and top it off by declaring a “positive discrimination” candidate selection for Lewisham East which excluded all men and only white women! To clarify: no men and only non-white women. Left with no choice but to vote for a much maligned and wrongly vilified white women when ordinarily wouldn’t give a moments thought to a candidates ethnicity. As it also happens to be Ann Marie Waters, an extremely courageous and determined individual devoted to insisting that the media and Parliament face up to reality at long last, then that vote is also a privilege.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Very glad that you have both owned and then shed your past as a…..labour voter (uck, excuse me).
I too, some time ago, used to lean in the direction of the Left, thinking that it held the just and compassionate answers to societal ailments. It took a while to realize that the foundations of all this supposed ‘justice’ were laid on a bed of coercion, violence and the eradication of anything even approaching the idea of an ‘individual’.
They have never been anything but a hang over from a backwards and destructive nightmare, itself the product of a diseased mind hankering for a world that can never be, yet creating realities that should never have seen the light of day .
This is why they pour so much, and persistent, hatred upon the United States; not primarily because of any current missteps that great country may make, which is inevitable of course, but because of the principles contained in it’s founding documents. These principles are completely the opposite of everything the Left hold dear.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent. Just wanted to express my gladness over hearing about your political evolution.
SoCalMike says
We are facing the same problem here in the states; it just isn’t as big yet.
JawsV says
“My crime is a simple one: I criticise Islam.” — Ann Marie Waters
Whoever thought the West would come to this?
“All of this is happening for one reason; Islam. The British establishment is both terrified of Islam and enamoured of it.” — Ann Marie Waters
Why anyone with firing neurons would be enamoured of Islam I have no idea.
BRAVA Ann Marie Waters for speaking out!
dsinc says
+1
Marty says
muslims and their leftist zombies can only win if the rest of us submit to their intimidation. That cannot be allowed to happen in the United States. the islamic death cult must be banned, mosques closed and razed, and the malevolent contents of the koran and hadith be exposed.
SHUALI says
Wishful thinking! The authorities will not be the ones to resist Islam. That is left for the common person to initiate. I dare say there are many people who would take part in a revolution to get rid of Islam in our midst. The problem is that the MSM dominates the ‘news’ and also that there is not viable leadership for the people who see the threat for what it is. This lack of leadership is, in the last analysis, the reason democracy will fail.
And it is not only Islam that must be dealt with. The current problems in the USA that are centered on massive corruption in the political sphere is equally as serious. For example, Jeff Sessions and his absolute refusal to deal with the corruption and indict those responsible.
Felix Quigley says
The issue in this election does centre on Islam and on the jailing of Tommy Robinson. The issue of Brexit is also involved because I think that it was the EU Open Borders of Blair that intensified the issue of Islam in UK.
I will begin with a reference to a paragraph from a UKIP leader called Coombes. It is the word “anti Muslim” by Coombes that interests me most.
quote…”Clearly, UKIP must not blindly follow the radical parties of Europe. Many are weak on the EU, many are firm socialists and many are so anti-Islam that they have become anti-Muslim, a territory that we must steer very clear of. But there is a key formula that we are failing to grasp, and that formula has a few different components.”
http://kippercentral.com/2018/03/27/reece-coombes-its-time-to-stop-looking-backwards-and-let-tommy-robinson-join-ukip/
Going by what I saw of her speaking at Speakers Corner my position is different to Waters.
The issue of Islam is the issue of the mosque. It is the mosque which is the spear of the Jihad.
However this is dialectical. The mosque is only possible with the presence of large numbers of Muslims in a country.
So my answer and political programme follows from this and I will restate it at the end.
But first Waters. I am uncertain as to what she stands for and especially what she intends to do…her programme.
So in the first paragraph she refers to a “left wing mob” and this is areal giveaway to her mind and political position. It is not a left wing mob it is a fascist mob using socialism as a cover. Hitler did this too. Leon Trotsky was very aware of this and wrote on it with great effect.
Then a little later she refers to the “threatening Labour Party” and she is right as far as it goes. But the Labour Party is also Left Fascist under Corbyn and Momentum. Moreover this raises the great issue in Britain of Antisemitism because it was the British White Paper of 1939 that laid the basis for the Holocaust. She is thereby unable to characterize the Labour Party correctly.
But later on she becomes more confused. The British ruling class of the Conservatives of May are essentially in many ways preparing a Fascist State with the Mosques. That is not what she says. Without going into unending detail she says something different and these things are crucial.
For my own benefit let me try to recap what has happened and where (in my opinion) we are at. Then I will return to what needs to be done.
(forgive the length but this is super complicated situation I know you will agree with me on that at least)
The jailing of Tommy Robinson is a massive turning point.
Let me look at some positions on this. They are varied.
It is carried out by the May Government. Emphasize that May did not act alone but the full force of many institutions of Government. Just some may be Intelligence, police, army, law courts, the judiciary, jails. The full state aparatus.
The other parties especially the British Labour Party, Corbyn and of great importance Momentum, that antisemitic fascist group that is now the pillar of Corbyn abd the Labour Party.
The august authority of Parliament
The similar august authority of the traditional Churches, Anglican, Catholic, Sikh, Hindu, Jewishm and other such institutions
School teachers and their trade unions who have created that climate, a certain climate, in the schools which backs up the above
The English Football authorities. Other sporting bodies.
Fascist Left groups. These may call themselves sometimes “Trotskyist”, “Marxist” and even “Communist”. But on sites like Jihadwatch we are sophisticated enough to see that words are easy and often meant to deceive.
In fact thousands of groups and grouplets in a society like Britain. They are not tied together by anything needing conspiracy. They are tied together and they act as one when the need arises by ideology.
But along with that last significant category (ideology) a still even more significant condition in UK, the total absence of a real Socialist, Marxist or Communist leadership (call it what you will)
We can say that all of these, some in very large measure, some less so, but all without fail have contributed to the jailing of Tommy Robinson.
We can say that any person or group which supports the jailing of Robinson is a Fascist and an extremely right wing group which is supporting this present status quo which has facilitated the jailing of Robinson.
PS There is much confusion over this word “right wing”. It will be hard to put this right. This has some comical results that I have met, such as a clear working class man who was calling himself right wing and insisting on it, because he was opposed to Islam.
In order to clear this up we have to go into history. It did not go unnoticed that Hitler used socialist jargon at times. In fact Leon Trotsky was aware of this and wrote on it.
But go into the history just a little more deeply, get past the name, and you will find that Hitler was placed in power by the bankers in order to rescue Germany from chaos of social revolution, at least a revolutionary situation, and Hitler became the supreme counter revolutionary. Hitler WAS right wing. His very first step on taking state power in 1933 was the elimination of every organization except the Fascists. That is what Mussolini had done and is also what Franco did in 1939. THAT is right wing. The removal of the danger of social revolution by a new form of rule called Fascism.
So the jailing of Tommy Robinson is a great cause. How people address this will define who and what they are, no matter what they call themselves. People progressive people who oppose his jailing … they also will be defined because it is not enough to verbally oppose this jailing. This is not a matter of words alone. They will also be judged on what they put forward as programme to secure his release.
From the start and even long before the arrest it was clear that the state was planning to take Tommy Robinson off the street.
Essentially the English Defence League was a politically clueless, spontaneous, political protest movement of the streets and which did not build the organization to defend its leaders when attacked by the state. In the end they or it did not even show loyalty. This organization the EDL could not even find it within their resources to defend Tommy Robinson and his family from all kinds of physical danger. What a nightmare! The type of organization also which has always been riddled by agent provocateur paid by the state. This has happened many times before and in Britain we well know with the Animal Rights Movement. So it is not conspiracy to say this just a matter of being able to read.
Robinson was different in that he did not want to give up. He wanted to move on from this. The agent provocateir of Quillian attempted to step in. Surely that was a state operation.
Robinson went through this very quickly.
The Rebel Media seemed to offer him an organizational framework but Robinson rightly saw the limitations and reactionary nature of The Rebel so much so that even in Canada its leader Ezra Levant I noticed (words and more words!) was abiding by the judges ban!
The definitive decision to remove Robinson may even have come from the EU because it will have been noticed that Robinson began to do political work especially in East Germany and with some effect.
Robinson in fact had moved to a far more revolutionary position than Farage, who needs to feel himself a part of the aristocracy, albeit the Brexit aristocracy.
It centred on Islam and what to do about Islam in our modern world.
Remembering that Karl Marx more than anybody correctly characterized the Fascist nature of Islam, not the same at all as a religion, how can we as socialist revolutionaries address this.
I take as my guide to action none other than the Turk Erdogan…Thanks Turk!
The statement of Erdogan according to the BBC was drawn from an Ottoman poem, but it was Erdogan who said it
” The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets”… etcetera
I believe that this is an issue of state power. It is the working class people who have had to endure Islam in Britain. And if the working class of Britain is to have a Britain then they must act through social revolution. Only they will fight Islam.
So Mr Erdogan you have pointed the way.
First step is to tear down brick by brick every mosque in Britain and our own Emerals Isle Ireland. Not a few million bricks but every brick. There is a difference.
But what to do about the Muslims. The answer to that is as simple as tearing down the Mosques. Muslims must not be allowed to exist in these countries. Naturally with the power of the state behind our sails the revolutionary party of the working class must begin a huge campaign of education about Islam based not on myth but on fact. Historical fact is not relative. There is as opposed to relativism such a thing as objective truth.
The end result is that Islam will not be practiced.
But the prerequisite for all of this is working class power, of the state, and of what Marx called “the dictatorship of the proletariat”.
So now we are being given two important lessons. the first is the jailing by the state of Tommy Robinson, and the second major lesson is the state hounding of Anne Marie Waters in the Lewisham supposed democratic election.
As Waters sees clearly we are moving into a Fascist State situation very rapidly.
The very big question is what exactly to do.
A very big part of this lies in a study of UKIP, what happened especially in the to and fro of that election for the leadership of UKIP, as I expressed in my reference to Coombes. I express it tentatively but it is more than possible that Waters made a strategic mistake in leaving and not fighting on in UKIP. In a real way it led these like Coombes and Farage off the hook. Their treachery needed to be explored fully.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Almost TLDR there Felix.
Just a few points that i wanted to mention:
“quote…”Clearly, UKIP must not blindly follow the radical parties of Europe. Many are weak on the EU, many are firm socialists…”
He’s right about that. That coalition in Italy for example, the one that seems to be making good on it’s promise to end immigration, is clearly no champion of traditionally right wing politics. Their economic manifesto and promises would make a National Socialist jump for joy – massive government spending programs on everything from health care to day care to national food self sufficiency and more.
There is not really much about them that comes within a country mile of anything actually right wing, which would lead them to wish to shrink government size, spending and general penetration into the lives of individuals.
In fact, they seem to me to be one of the more actually Fascistic governments around at the moment.
” It is not a left wing mob it is a fascist mob using socialism as a cover. Hitler did this too.”
Fascism IS Socialistic (and Collectivist). All the way to it’s core in fact. You must know this.
It has always been absolutely a creature of the Left. Always. It shares so many of the same primary assumptions on the nature of the State and the Individual that it cannot seriously be considered as anything else.
Mussolini was always a serious Leftist, shifting from labors unions and ‘Workers Parties” to more nationalistic Fascist beliefs as time went on. Nationalism is spectrum independent though. Just because the Left, claimed by Communists as their sole domain, generally has an international scope, there is nothing to stop them narrowing their focus a little. Stalin did exactly that with his communism in one country thing.
Hitler is a little less doctrinally obvious, but his desire for a strong Volk and raw power over the nation and his enemies naturally led him to do things that the Left is known for – massive government spending, control of all aspects of society, removing ‘rights’ from the individual.
To say Hitler used socialism as a cover makes no sense. He used it as a cover for what? His underlying beliefs that the State had the right to control everything? You say potato i say potahto.
And we’d really need some solid evidence that right wing/capitalist bankers and/or industrialists ‘put hitler in power’. Because they didn’t, not by themselves and not altogether. Sure, some supported him. But then, some parts of pretty much every group in the country supported him at one time or another.
I’ve discussed this on here a couple of times over the last 8 months, and quoted quite a bit from Kershaw to support all this. I don’t mind digging up those older posts if needed.
The communists of hitlers day were the ones trying to make him out as a tool of the ‘right’ and of big business, and it hasn’t stopped to this day. But it’s not true.
The only way in which the NSDAP were ‘right wing’ is because they were less left wing than the communists.
“Hitler WAS right wing. His very first step on taking state power in 1933 was the elimination of every organization except the Fascists. That is what Mussolini had done and is also what Franco did in 1939. THAT is right wing”
NO, he wasn’t. In what way do you think he was?
Economically, the NSDAP claimed the right to regulate all aspects of production, especially agriculture which they controlled completely. As time went on, they also regulated what companies could do with any profits there might be. This is not the behavior of someone believing in a free market.
Socially, the NSDAP regulated the existence of entire sections of the population, barring them from whole industries by the threat of violence against both employees and employers. Does that sound like a laissez faire kind of thing to do?
They funded, on massive loans they never intended to repay, the construction of enormous construction projects to get people back to work, nationwide social groups and even state paid vacation programs for workers.
None of this is the behavior of right wingers.
Even the example you gave about how the opposing political groups were suppressed and/or outlawed has left wing stamped all over it. The use of State coercive power is the definition of what constitutes left wing thought, since it asserts the rights of the group over the one. You are right that this is a Fascistic act…..but that doesn’t make it non left wing. This just makes it authoritarian, a thing which is far more common and naturally justifiable with collectivizing belief systems.
Thanks for reading. Though we clearly come from different positions politically, i should just add that i value your posts and the respectful tone with which you conduct yourself here. I will endeavor to do the same.
gravenimage says
It appears that Felix Quigley is once again castigating Anti-Jihadists for not being Trotskyites…
LeftisruiningCanada says
I’m noticing a pattern of replyaphobia
Japetto Danatelli says
I feel worried and sad for Anne and her party, and all the good people of Britain. They’re up against some really dark forces in their own government. Watching freedom and the culture of Britain die for islamic supremacy is like watching a friend drown before your eyes and you feel helpless. The establishment has laid a firm foundation for islam to live and thrive. If good Brits don’t turn it around now islam will surely win, one way or another. Even if they don’t officially enforce sharia people will feel obliged to live it out of fear of retaliation by their government or muslims. If you walk into a muslim neighborhood wearing a cross or no headscarf then of course you’ll be the trouble maker, so act like a good dhimmi should. Women will stay indoors out of fear of getting raped, and they’ll cover up cuz it will be easier to just conform than risk getting terrorized fighting it. Other crimes like FGM and forced marriages will be tolerated as part of the new multicultural society, even though they’re gross human rights violations. And who would dare object to those crimes if it means going to jail or losing your job and ending up destitute? Lawlessness will continue to rise just like it did after Sadiq Khan came to power, more acid in the face, knife and gun crime, sharia patrol gangs, and of course rape. Terrorism will surge because as victory gets closer for muslims, after all that’s how muslims attained protected status in the first place–violence works. Britain will become a paranoid, close-mouthed society where people realize it’s just easier to shut up rather than fight against insurmountable odds. In the end democracy will be far less important than the theocratic climate of abuse and fear that islam creates. Freedom will in effect be dead, they will have become a de facto islamic nation.
Of course they could have a chance if they backed Anne and her party. It’s frustrating because there’s a chance they could fix this thing. They’re like a starving nation with food right at their feet, and that food is the FOR BRITAIN party. For cripes sake, Brits, haven’t you seen enough already to convince you what has to be done?
Granddaddy says
I don’t know how it is in the UK, but here in the US, a big part of the problem comes from letting these so-called “refugees” and immigrants vote. I thought you could only vote if you were a citizen of the country. If we’re going to allow refugees from Syria to vote in Western democratic countries, we might just as well hold our elections in Syria. Since when do aliens, even legal aliens, represent the Western democratic values of freedom and justice?
Also, “we also have the greatest weapon of all – the truth about the teachings of Islam.” No offense to anyone, and certainly it is a terrible thing what is happening in the UK, but they’ve always had the Quran to read. If you can’t afford to buy one, you can download it for free on the web. And not just one version, but several. So anyone can read it any time they want to. For free. So why is it people would rather vote terrorists into office than take a few hours reading through the Quran to see what Islam is really about? Or when they do read it, why is it one must argue with people about something so plain as “kill them where you find them” and “be you apes and pigs”? There is nothing like this in Christianity anywhere, and yet they would rather take the word of someone who professes to have the divine right to lie and murder — they would rather do that than take the word of Jesus Himself. Which they also can confirm by simply reading the New Testament.
I hate what’s going on in the UK right now, it’s the last thing I ever wanted to happen, but when things get to the point where someone like Ms Waters or Geert Wilders (and many others) has to take their life in their hands to speak the truth, you have to wonder if the people really care.
Garfield says
I wonder if people really care about anything good. They seem to care about transgender issues, BDSM, celebrity gossip, junk food, mood altering pharmaceutical pills, dugs….
LeftisruiningCanada says
If it’s anything like Canada, those things you list are what the silly lefties want you to think everybody cares about.
Like the loudspeakers that lined the Korean DMZ, and still permeate the Chinese (and Turkish and some Soviet era countryside) the media is spewing literal propaganda, but only it’s coming at us from our own state and media and not a more obvious enemy.
Learning Islam says
Islam mandates deception [taqiyya] when Muslims deal with non-Muslims. Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers if the lie is for the protection of Islam or the furthering of Islamic goals and objectives. In the cause of Islamic expansionism Muslims falsely inform non-Muslims that: Islam is a “religion of peace”, the Quran mandates pluralism of religions, “jihad” is only about an “inner spiritual struggle”, unprovoked violence against non-Muslims is un-Islamic, immigrant Muslims wish to fully integrate into Western countries by adopting democratic principles instead of Sharia Law, Muhammad was a man of peace, etc. None of these things are true. Taqiyya is not about truth.
Taqiyya – Saying something that isn’t true.
ALL MUSLIMS PRACTICE TAQIYYA by HIDING, DISSEMBLING and LYING about
the 1) meaning, 2) method and 3) motives of Islamic jihad … or they have left Islam.
In so doing, they want to imitate Mohammed who first made a ‘CONSTITUTION’ in Yathrib, then he changed the name to MEDINA (capital city) and then he disenfranchised, destroyed
Nevertheless, the God of the Bible “condemns those who devise wicked schemes…” Proverbs 12:11. [N.I.V.] Likewise, Proverbs 12:20 teaches “Deceit is in the hearts of those who plot evil.”
Kitman – deceit/Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills “it shall be as if he had killed all mankind”) while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of “corruption” and “mischief.”
Kitman
is characterized by someone telling only part of the truth. The most common example of this is when a Muslim says that jihad really refers to an internal, spiritual struggle…
tawriya (deceit by ambiguity), Tawriya is defined as concealing, and it could be called “creative lying”…
taysir (deceit by facilitation),
darura (deceit by ‘necessity’),
muruna (deceit by temporary suspension of a doctrine/ means using “flexibility” to blend in with the enemy or the surroundings…)
Most Westerners are unaware of the extent to which most Muslims use these deceptions and means of disinformation, especially journalists who naively believe they can understand Islam without reading the source texts) and a “holy book” that is in fact a terror manual is not, of course, mainly a religion, it is an invading army of zealots and criminals. There is nothing peaceful or tolerant about it, which makes Muslim immigrants clearly different than any previous wave of freedom seekers. We avoid and minimize this fact at our existential peril.
1. MUSLIMS ALWAYS LIE BECAUSE THEY SUFFER FROM QURONIC TRUTH-O-PHOBIA It is well known Muslims are first rate liars – there is no end to their lying. One should never ever trust a Muslim. ANYTHING – that these maggots say – the OPPOSITE is the truth. “In Islam,” he said, “we are against innocent killing.”
2. In Islam, only Muslims can be “innocent . Muslim always say to non-Muslims, Islam is peace
mortimer says Jewish ethics are based on the Golden Rule, while Islam’s dual ethics are based on K.48.29.
Moslems are Allowed to LIE (Taqiyya and Kitman) It is written in the Quran and Hadiths that False Prophet Mohamed instructs his Moslem followers to LIE. Here is Proof =
Surah 16:106 – Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Moslem to tell a lie.
Surah 9:3 – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” (The dissolution of oaths with the pagans). If Moslems lie to non-Muslims it is not a sin for them.
Quran (9:3) – “…Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters…” The dissolution of oaths is with pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway. (The next verse refers only to those who have a personal agreement with Muhammad as individuals – see Ibn Kathir vol 4, p 49)
Surah 66:2 – “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths” Lying to Non-Muslims is fine.
Quran (40:28) – A man is introduced as a believer, but one who had to “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.
Surah 2:225 – “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts” Allah will forgive Moslems all your lies towards non-Muslims.
Quran (3:28) – This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves” against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim may appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel friendly.
Quran (3:54) – “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means ‘deceit’. If Allah is supremely deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive
others for a greater purpose.
LeftisruiningCanada says
She’s absolutely right when she call Fascism Left wing.
That gets said so rarely in public discourse, and is refreshing to hear.
Norger says
The reason why Islamists and their apologists won’t engage on a substantive level with the likes of Ms. Waters (or Robert Spencer) is because they know that they cannot prevail in a fair, rational, two-way exchange in which informed critics of Islam are actually permitted to state facts and cite authoritative Islamic sources. Islam simply cannot stand up to the light of rational inquiry (i.e. truth). It’s so much easier to silence critics of Islam than to engage with them. But depriving a political candidate of access to voters because he or she is “Islamophobic” just takes the civilization jihad to a whole new level. Pure dhimmitude. Utterly disgraceful.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
Muslim debaters can’t even usually manage to understand ‘how’ to debate properly, let alone manage to field proper arguments and evidences.
This is one of the things that J White brings out quite well. He has shown them again and again to rely on faulty logic, double standards or outright falsehoods.
Ahmed Deedat being the most wonderfully ridiculous example of this combination.
Tom S. says
Precious Anne Marie Waters,
Fight as long as you can, but take Mark Steyn’s “America Alone” as a warning. Consider coming to America if the fight turns bad over there. If you do, I’ll teach you the AR-15, and/or pay for your Appleseedinfo.org training . Join the more than 50 million well armed Americans who will never allow Islam to get a political foothold in our country.
The USA is not Lebanon, it is not Sweden, and it is not Britain. You heard Raheem Kassam give a shout-out to our 2nd Amendment at the first “Free Tommy” demonstration. Because of it, you could safely enter a venue for political debate in 90+% of the USA.
Garfield says
+1
traci94 says
Anne Marie Waters is brave and is a hero, along with Geert Wilders, Tommy Robinson, Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, and anyone like them who has the courage to speak out and stand for truth. If Western societies succeed and make it through this, we all will owe a great deal to them (and we do anyway because they are brave enough to fight the fight), and if our societies fail it’s because they have refused these warnings (that have gone on for years!)
gravenimage says
Anne Marie Waters: Our Democracy is Dead and Left-Wing Fascism Has Replaced It
…………………
Grimly, Anne Marie Waters is not wrong.
Glad to see her contributing here at Jihad Watch.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
D J says
KBO Ms Waters. I heard you with over 20000 in Whitehall speaking for Tommy Robinson.
The media tried to keep it quiet but British people are listening.
For July 14th we need to double the numbers
TWG says
The left, their media and entertainment jesters and their politicians should ALL be convicted and penalized severely for inciting hatred and violence based upon religion, race, gender, political party and social connections.
After all…… that is how the law is written to convict and penalize Conservatives, Whitey, Christians and Anti-islam advocates.
Why don’t these laws work both ways, consistently? “To learn who rules you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” (My paraphrase.)
vlparker says
Anne Marie Waters is a courageous heroine. Unfortunately, because of its totally corrupt left wing government, I believe it is too late for Britain to survive without a civil war. I hope I’m wrong. It was refreshing to see all of the people come out in support of Tommy Robinson, but they need to start voting the quislings out of office now.
Felix Quigley says
I was looking at a Lewisham conservative party site. It seems to be the official one built around a Sam Thurgood. Nousing seems to be the number one priority. Rents are going up fast. Thurgood claims that in 10 years of Labour they built SIX houses. So the “socialist” party Labour built six houses and the “conservative” party is more socialist than Labour. It is a mad mad world in London. I have been in Lewisham and it seemed like nothing to me. It only seemed like a tube stop. No culture as an English town, only lack of culture which IS multiculturalism.
https://www.conservativehome.com/localgovernment/2018/04/sam-thurgood-housing-is-the-priority-for-conservatives-in-lewisham.html
Momentum is the problem. The Muslims keep to their areas and organize and train inside and through their mosques. The Fascist forces on the streets, rather mild in comparision with the Nazis at this moment, are Momentum. Momentum is no more than a handful of ageing has beens. That is an amalgam of left wing groups who saw their chance of organizing together behind Corbyn. The Momentum is not Marxist. They have no respect for Marxist tradition or history and they would in truth be unaware of it. They are ACTIVISTS with distain for historical knowledge. A form of Fascism in action and deeply Antisemitic in their hatred for Israel, and this Antisemitism is mixed in with conspiracy, engendered by people like David Icke, who comes from an island off UK, and many other small radio statiions. Icke himself is mixed up with commercialization. Terry Wogan had much more grasp of reality than Icke ever had. To sum up this Fascism has emerged from a deep disrespect for human learning and knowledge, and from the debasement of knowledge, I mentioned Icke but he is only one small part of this debasement. This is the real issue but I cannot deal with it here.
I said above that the Muslims are sticking to the mosques. They are preparing. Certainly are arming. As in the beginning they send out their war parties and this is called their “terror” and is for a purpose.
But these mosques are operating inside of a very suitable political climate for them. Islam moves in when there is a vacumn or weakness through confusion. The confusion is created by all of these tiny little forces, the conservative above who worries about housing, the socialist Labour Party who built six houses in ten years, the little churches and their little vicars and their empty little sermons that nobody listens to, all of this time being wasted. But most of all the great theory of Marxism is being rubbished by these Momentum creatures so that Paul Weston can go on about “These are the Marxists”. So it goes down in a spiral.
So AMW finished off her piece above…
“All of this is happening for one reason; Islam. The British establishment is both terrified of Islam and enamoured of it. Given the prevalence of the extreme Left in both media and government, Islam is beloved for its anti-Western hate, its political and religious totalitarianism, and its violence. These things go down very well with the hard-left, who simply cannot fathom why anyone is allowed to disagree with them.
Our democracy is dead and left-wing fascism has replaced it. Islam now utterly dominates and the press, the police, and the government have fallen in to line. If we are to survive, with any freedoms intact, we must fight our own government, and our own press. We have an enormous task, but we also have the greatest weapon of all – the truth about the teachings of Islam. Nothing can take that away.”
Yes she is right. Islam has created a situation, very cleverly, where you cannot discuss political ideas.
Labour insisted on having a black candidate which is open racism on the part of Labour. Did the conservatives expose this racism by Labour? I do not know if they even mentioned it.
This black candidate refused to sit with Anne Marie saying she is a Fascist. Corbyn explicitely backs her up on this.
The hustings for this election are opposed and denied by Labour to the cheers of conservatives. By rights it is not a true election. It is a false election.
What is actually going on. Alarmed by this experience of AMW in Lewisham yesterday I sent in off topic to a site which Spencer knows Harry’s Place a mention of this article on Jihadwatch. Thinking more on this I sent into google a request and I found that Harry’s Place has not mentioned this Lewisham election once, ever. That means they are hiding what has happened in this Lewisham election concerning AMW.
That is in fact how the preparation of a Fascist State in any country takes place. Little betrayal after little betrayal…by little people.
In the end Tommy was a threesome. Himself, his two friends. Nobody else. Tommy could not build a party.
AMW is in the same boat, as is pamela Geller and Robert Spencer,the list will go on. Read the last words above of AMW and you will see the real problem (or not see most likely)
“We have an enormous task, but we also have the greatest weapon of all – the truth about the teachings of Islam. Nothing can take that away.”
Very inspiring sentiments AMW but you are wrong. That CAN be taken away. That is the very meaning of the arrest of Tommy and the preventative measures against you.
AMW has not faced up to the most important lesson of all that has come out of this Lewisham election.
That is in order to engage in even a “hustings” it is necessary tohave certain conditions. One is a revolutionary party based on a deep understanding of history, including the history of the British working class, or if Ireland it would be the Irish working class, involving things like Antisemitism etcetera.
There must be emans to defend that party, that party member. But along with that necessary defence there must be a very key legal department.
At this moment. AMW and the legal department of her party, must be launching legal actions and bringing Corbyn to court. The aim to declare the election null and void.
But AMW is not a revolutionary. Going by the speech at Speakers Corner AMW is now preparing to receive furniture for “her new place”. I do not think any of this will happen.
So again I defend Waters from every attack. But she is not the answer.
The First and Second Amendments are now crucial to defend and not just in America, in Europe also, and that is where the final battle will take place, between Trump and Europe. To defend and resue Europe you have to ensure Trump wins on these key issues.
LeftisruiningCanada says
International Socialism, and ideas related to it, is a large part of what has caused the problems in the West.
More of it, “done properly this time” is unlikely to make things better.
gravenimage says
The idea that you cannot defend against Jihad unless you are a Trotkyite is just ridiculous.
David, Thailand says
“We have an enormous task, but we also have the greatest weapon of all – the truth about the teachings of Islam. Nothing can take that away.”
They may not be able to change the truth about Islam, but their weapons are far more potent than any truth, being the power, tactics, sponsors, and ideology to prevent people from being informed.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… In the end, the only hustings event in this election, the only opportunity for voters to question candidates, was cancelled to protect public safety…”
These ‘direct action’ militants are nothing less than saboteurs of the democratic process. Everyone deserves a rostrum to speak from and anyone denying them this basic stage is an enemy of freedom.
Billybob says
At least there is a Crumb of Comfort:
Janet Daby held the seat for Labour with a majority of 5,629 – hugely below the 21,213 achieved by her predecessor Heidi Alexander.
ddcannady says
You are being bought off with government benefits. The Left gave you “free” healthcare and all sorts of goodies for people and institutions(like the police). So, to protect those benefits, despite tge fact that you are being horribly misled, too many of you automatically support the Left. It’s insidious.
LeftisruiningCanada says
+1
It’s an addiction that can so easily kill the user.