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Canada: Mother of Muslim who plotted to bomb Times Square says he is not a terrorist, he’s mentally ill

Jun 21, 2018 12:01 pm By Robert Spencer

Authorities describe many, many obvious jihadis as mentally ill, but if the information in this article is accurate, Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy may really be. Yet the two categories — jihadism and mental illness — are not mutually exclusive. It may be that he turned to Allah and jihad as a way out of his drug addiction, in hopes of tipping Allah’s great scales of judgment in his favor. It seems from the story and photo of him with his mother that he grew up in a devout household, so that was likely his frame of reference.

“He plotted to bomb Times Square for ISIS. Records show he’s mentally ill. Is he a terrorist?,” by Stewart Bell, Global News, June 20, 2018 (thanks to the Geller Report):

To Khdiga Metwally, the medical records spread across her kitchen table are more than a chronicle of her son’s history of addiction and mental illness; they are proof he is not a terrorist.

Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy, a 20-year-old Canadian, faces a possible life sentence when he appears in a New York courtroom as early as next month for plotting a 2016 bombing at Times Square for the so-called Islamic State.

But his mother insists the case is not what it seems.

“Actually, it’s not a terrorist case, it’s a mental illness problem,” Metwally said in an interview at her home in an Oakville, Ont. suburb.

“We have all the reports that confirm that my son was sick.”

Those reports describe brain damage, bipolar disorder, obsessiveness and drug use beginning at age 14 that led to “huffing” — inhaling air fresheners, bug spray and anything else he could get his hands on.

In many ways, El Bahnasawy’s story is familiar: a youth radicalizes online and decides to kill in the name of ISIS. But medical records from four countries obtained by Global News make it more complicated.

The documents are an unprecedented and intimate look at the psyche of a young man who plotted mass killings in the West under the guidance of ISIS.

And they raise complicated questions.

To what extent does mental health explain the actions of some terrorists? Should terrorists with a history of mental illness be treated differently? Is a person with a mental illness, who engages in terrorism, still a terrorist?

The teen addict

“Abdulrahman has an extensive history of mental health problems and poor function, dating back to childhood,” according to a report by New York psychologist Katherine Porterfield, who reviewed El Bahnasawy’s medical files, met his family and spent 50 hours with him over nine months in 2017.

The medical records date back to the day he was born. In the delivery room in Kuwait City, his mother had a severe uterine rupture. The baby was delivered “swiftly,” according to the hospital report, but the traumatic birth may have deprived the infant of oxygen, possibly causing brain damage.

El Bahnasawy did not speak until he was four, according to Porterfield’s report for the U.S. legal defence team. He was an average student, “described as an anxious, hyperactive, and inattentive child.”

“His most consistent trait was his tendency to fixate or obsess about certain topics or interests,” Porterfield wrote. The solar system, soccer, computers and atheism all monopolized his attention during stages of his childhood. And once he tried marijuana, it became the latest of his all-encompassing obsessions.

He began “incessantly” talking about it. He researched how to grow it and droned on about how much he loved it. He argued with his parents about its benefits. “He essentially showed no interest in any other activities,” the psychologist wrote.

To get him away from what they saw as Canada’s “permissive society,” and hoping he would benefit from being closer to relatives, his parents returned the family to Kuwait. But even in the conservative Gulf state, El Bahnasawy had no trouble finding drugs.

He became addicted to chemical inhalants. When using them, he would hear a man’s voice that he thought came to him over radio waves. “He became one of my only friends and every time I wanted to talk to him I would get high and he was always there,” El Bahnasawy wrote in a letter to the judge hearing his case.

His parents got him into a Kuwait City hospital, where he was diagnosed with substance addiction and depression. To discourage him from relapsing, his father Osama El Bahnasawy videotaped him shaking from withdrawal.

WATCH: Canadian teen in NYC terror plot suffered withdrawal symptoms in hospital, father says

He stayed for 40 days.

But as soon as he got out, he went right back to drugs.

The family returned to Toronto and, after El Bahnasawy disclosed multiple suicide attempts and thoughts of throwing himself off the apartment balcony, the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health (CAMH) admitted him.

CAMH records list the substances he had used: heroin, cannabis, LSD, mescaline, amphetamines, crack and ecstasy, among others. His files indicate he “did well” at the facility. But when he was discharged, he returned to drugs.

The family next tried a private addiction clinic in Alexandria, Egypt. The Alriyada Hospital thought the underlying problem was bipolar disorder, along with “fits of obsession together with psychotic symptoms,” records show. After seven months, he came out in June 2015, finally off drugs.

El Bahnasawy was 17 when he returned to Toronto and he knew nobody. The medication he was taking seemed to work but it made him gain weight and he stopped taking it. His mother tried slipping it into meals but he found out.

Although he hadn’t previously identified as a Muslim, El Bahnasawy rediscovered the faith after his parents forced him to attend a Mississauga Islamic school, which they felt would not tolerate drug use.

But like everything else, he took it to the extreme. He dropped out of school and did nothing but sit in his room exploring violent jihadist Internet content and chatting online with ISIS supporters.

“Much as he had done with drugs, Abdulrahman put all of his energy and focus into this activity online, even speaking compulsively to his parents and sister about his new beliefs,” Porterfield wrote.

The Plot

In the fall of 2015, ISIS members in Syria were desperately trying to launch attacks in Western countries. Abu Saad al-Sudani was one of them. U.S. prosecutors called him a “high-level ISIS recruiter and attack planner” active in plotting terrorism in the U.S., Canada and Britain.

Alone in his bedroom in suburban Ontario, El Bahnasawy, began to correspond with al-Sudani. He told al-Sudani he wanted to join ISIS. Al-Sudani said El Bahnasawy would need to prove himself first, so he bought cellphones and collected $500, which he sent to a list of names and addresses al-Sudani had provided.

Having passed his initiation, El-Bahnasawy was encouraged by al-Sudani to help ISIS achieve its ultimate fantasy: an attack on U.S. soil. The target was to be New York City, and the killings were to take place in June or July 2016, to coincide with the Muslim holy month of Ramadan.

A U.S. citizen living in Pakistan named Talha Haroon joined the attack plot and they agreed the operation would involve bombings and mass shootings at a concert venue or the subway, prosecutors alleged. Then a third plotter joined in, a U.S.-based member of the ISIS online network.

The conspirators “repeatedly declared their allegiance to ISIS” and said they wanted their attack to be like those in Paris and Brussels, prosecutors said. El Bahnasawy said he wanted to carry out the next 9/11.

“These Americans need an attack,” he wrote.

To prepare for the big day, El Bahnasawy bought bomb-making materials and components in Ontario, including 40 pounds of hydrogen peroxide, and shipped them to his U.S. contact.

On May 1, 2016, he sent the U.S.-based conspirator images and maps of the New York subway system that showed the routes the attackers would take and the subway lines they would strike, the prosecutors said.

Needing more money to see the operation through, El Bahnasawy consulted al-Sudani, who put him in touch with “The Doctor,” a Philippine citizen named Russell Salic, who allegedly wired $423 on May 11, 2016.

In the final weeks, El Bahnasawy made plans to travel to New York, using his parents as decoys. He told his U.S. contact he would be arriving “under the guise” of a family vacation. “I will be masked behind my parents back,” he wrote.

The day before the road trip, Haroon wrote that Times Square would be the perfect target. “We have to make an ocean out of their blood,” he wrote, “scar them for life knowing the soldiers of Allah are everywhere.”

The attack was to be a suicide mission, which Porterfield thought was telling. In her report, the psychologist said the hopelessness El Bahnasawy felt about beating addiction had led him to contemplate suicide. And the messaging of the extremist community offered him a path to that end.

“It is my clinical opinion that, below the surface of his submission to Islam and embrace of enslavement to the law of Allah there lurked a self-destructiveness,” she wrote.

“Essentially, Abdulrahman was engaged in a fantasy, the ultimate ending of which was his own destruction. As frightening as his ideas were, they can best be understood as psychological in nature — the terribly misguided thinking of a depressed young person who could not beat addiction.”…

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  1. mariam rove says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 12:12 pm

    In a way she is right. Islam is a mental illness. M

    • boakai ngombu says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      being willing to die for the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) like a slave endeavoring to do its will, does indicate some sort of a mental derangement syndrome

      perhaps he should’ve been drinking camel pee

      • Eur says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 2:21 pm

        being willing to die for any God is a mental disorder.

        • somehistory says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 3:35 pm

          You do not speak for everyone.

        • boakai ngombu says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 6:02 pm

          however, being willing to die in FAITH that the Savior and Lord Jesus is true to His promise of everlasting LIFE, is a GIFTt which eases apprehension about DEATH that awaits all.

          this is something the muslim (slave to the allah god of islam) lacks. … but could have, because the LORD’S Promise awaits any who would believe.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 6:13 pm

          It’s not so much that he was willing to die for “Allah”, but that he was willing to *murder* in his name.

          Where are members of other faiths doing this? It is rife in Islam, as you must know.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 7:39 pm

      The mother is only half right. Her son is mentally ill. And a terrorist.

      • RichardL says

        Jun 22, 2018 at 1:58 am

        She also forget to mention that she also is mentally ill, suffering from the same affliction

    • mortimer says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 8:29 pm

      ISLAM IS COMPOSED OF ABSURDITIES and the IMITATION OF A MENTALLY-ILL FALSE PROPHET

      The Man Who Died for a Hundred Years:

      Surah II:259: Or take the similitude of one who passed by a village in ruins to its roofs. He said, “Oh! How shall Allah restore it to life after its death?” But Allah caused him to die for 100 years. Then he raised him up and said, “How long have you stayed here?” He said, “A day or a part of a day.” He said, “No, you have been here for 100 years! But look at your food and your drink, they show no signs of age. And look at your donkey! We have made you a sign unto the people. Look further at the bones (of your body) how We clothed them with flesh.”

      A 90-Foot Adam:

      Bukhari Vol. IV, No. 543: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall.”

      Playing Chess Forbidden:

      Muslim Vol. IV, No. 5612, Chapter CMXLVI: It Is Prohibited to Play Chess
      Allah’s Apostle said, “He who played chess is like one who dyed his hand with the flesh and blood of swine.”

      Satan Stays in the Nose Overnight:

      Bukhari Vol. IV, No. 516: “Satan stays in the upper part of the nose all night.”
      Footnote (1) We should believe that Satan actually stays in the upper part of one’s nose, though we cannot perceive how, for this is related to the unseen world of which we know nothing except what Allah tells us through his Apostle Mohammed.
      Muslim Vol. I, No. 462: Abu Huraira reported: The Apostle of Allah said, “When any one of you awakes from sleep and performs ablution, he must clean his nose three times, for the devil spends the night in the interior of his nose.”

      Non-Muslims Have Seven Intestines:

      Muslim Vol. III, Nos. 5113, Chapter DCCCLXII: A Believer Eats in One Intestine Whereas a Non-Believer Eats in Seven Intestines.
      Ibn Umar reported Allah’s Messenger as saying that a non-Muslim eats in seven intestines while a Muslim eats in one intestine.
      (See also Nos. 5114-5120)

      Don’t Pray Looking Up:

      Muslim Vol. I, Nos. 863, Chapter CLXXIII: It Is Forbidden to Lift One’s Eyes Toward the Sky in Prayer
      Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Apostle saying: “People should avoid lifting their eyes towards the sky while supplicating in prayer, otherwise their eyes would be snatched away.

      The Wondrous Wings of a Fly:

      Bukhari Vol. IV, No. 537: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, “If a house fly falls into the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (into the drink) because one of its wings has a disease and the other wing has the cure (for that disease).
      Bukhari Vol. VII, No. 673: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Apostle said, “If a fly falls in the vessel of any of you, let him dip all of it into the vessel and then throw it away, for in one of its wings there is a disease and in the other wing there is healing.”

      The Setting of the Sun:

      Surah 18:86: When he (i.e. Zul-qarnain) reached the setting of the sun, he found that it set in a pond of murky water.

    • WPM says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 9:30 pm

      He has the superman shirt on, he should just leap off a tall building in a single bound a sure cure for any Islamic mental illness!

  2. Benedict says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 1:44 pm

    Terrorist and/or mentally ill: A sinner needs a scapegoat. Unfortunately Jews, Christians and/or infidels serve as such in Islamic theology and thereby in the minds of Muslims. –
    Again: mankind – peoplekind in Canada – is lost without the Christian gospel.

  3. Buraq says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 1:48 pm

    Polonius in Act 2, scene 2, of Shakespeare’s “Hamlet”: “Though this be madness, yet there is method in it.”

    True madness would express itself in chaotic behavior that makes no sense. But these guys seem to be well organized, methodical, able to learn how to make explosives, and persuade others to participate in their crimes.

    This clown isn’t mad, he is following Allah’s eternal commands to the letter. He’s an evil clown, not mad!

    • rooare says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 3:13 pm

      +2

    • somehistory says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 3:34 pm

      +3

    • Older Canadian says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 4:46 pm

      Absolutely. Shakespeare had such a handle on human behavior, the good, the bad and the ugly, Thanks for the reminder of this quote.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 6:05 pm

      Exactly. He may well have been”a depressed young person who could not beat addiction”, but he knew how he could attain Janna, paradise – kill and be killed. It says so in Koran 9:111.
      That is not mental incapacity.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 7:15 pm

      Spot on, Buraq.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 7:52 pm

      Burqaq

      I demur. Following “Allah’s eternal commands” makes him as mad as mad can be.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 22, 2018 at 8:16 pm

      Jay Boo, saying +1 just means that you are giving the comments thumb’s up. Some say +2 or whatever just to show additional enthusiasm. You don’t have to count how many replies they have received.

  4. Berengaria says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    An Excellent Suggestion for Khdiga & her Mentally Unbalanced Son, Abdul: Why not confine Mama & Son, plus all extended Family members, who, no doubt, are afflicted in the same manner. That way, the Unbalanced “Family” could stay together & receive treatment until pronounced “Sound of Mind”. The next step is the entire “Family’s” return to the Muslim State(Country) of their desire. Remember, Never Separate a “Family”. One commits a crime, all “Family” members are involved.

  5. Rarely says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    Poor kid. He’s had a miserable life and has zero prospects.
    However.
    Drug addiction, per se, does not provide an insanity defence. Engaging in fantasy, obsessiveness and self-destructiveness are characteristics most, if not all, drug addicts have in common. A low intelligence, however caused, doesn’t comprise a “mental illness” defence either
    What’s a bit unusual here is that most suicides do not plan to take as many people with them as they can. In fact any other fatalities are usually just “collateral” damage. Murder-suicides are personal.
    For an insanity defence to work, as I understand it, the accused must be unable to stand trial (unable to properly instruct his lawyer and aid in his own defence), or unable to understand the nature of his acts… very rare. Saying “I’m dumb and on drugs and got twisted into the plot by evil people”, however true it may be, will only get you a big laugh all around. Stupidity isn’t much of an excuse. Even if an insanity defence worked he would then be assigned to a secure mental health facility indefinitely.
    Any criminal lawyers out there care to comment?

    • somehistory says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 3:43 pm

      There are several Laws that address the issue of mental defect or insanity. Different jurisdictions choose which one they follow.

      Basically, the rule is the person must not…at the time of the action… be aware that what he is doing is wrong. He can be found “not guilty by reason of mental defect insanity” but he will be put behind walls and bars until such time as he is said to be well.

      I am not a lawyer, but criminal justice/public safety and anti-terrorism were my major courses. And my son is a practicing attorney..

      • LytchZam says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 7:17 pm

        Sorry about your son; some things a parent just can’t control.

        All the murderers I know are insane… though I don’t know any, it must be so.

        • somehistory says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 9:52 pm

          No need to “feel sorry” about my son. He is very intelligent, ethical, and I support his decision to be an attorney.

          If you ever get arrested for a crime…you did or did not commit…you will be glad some good people know the law.

      • Rarely says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 8:04 pm

        I am a lawyer but in Canada and never practiced criminal law. Mine is a law school memory (it was all etched in tablets back then). However, I believe you are correct but that would fall under being unable to understand the nature of his act. In Canada he would be sent to a mental institution at the pleasure of the Crown (an indefinite term).

        • somehistory says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 8:18 pm

          I’ve been trying to recall, without dragging out the books, if there are four or five “rules” that have been written in U.S. law governing the plea of insanity.

          The “rules” are similar, but none exactly alike another. I believe one is called “the McNaughton Rule,” but that’s just what comes to mind when thinking back on the studies, in Criminal Law, Criminal Investigation, etc. Lot of stuff to study and remember, and it’s easy to forget if not using it every day. And like one of my professors told me over and over, “the law changes constantly.”
          Laws may not, but court decisions can greatly influence application.

          In my opinion, all of these creatures who survive their terror acts will try to get off with the mental illness claim, or they will say they refuse to recognize the State and its laws.
          they should not escape punishment because they don’t think straight.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 8:39 pm

      You think that someone plotting to bomb Times Square is a “poor kid”?

      And he had *plenty* of prospects in Canada–Canada has more opportunity than almost any nation on earth–certainly more than Kuwait. A background of minor drug use or even Bipolar disorder–which runs in my own family–is not a complete impediment to living a decent life.

      Moreover, his family clearly has a fair amount of money, traveling to Kuwait and sending him to a private clinic in Egypt.

      He could have gone to college, started a career, found a job–he didn’t have to turn to Jihad.

      Notice that his mother blames his troubles on the West’s “permissive society”–it is quite likely that his hatred of the Infidel West came at least in part from his own Muslim family.

  6. rooare says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 3:25 pm

    Porterfield the psychologist needs to read the Koran, Hadith, and Sira and she would understand he was not depressed he was jubilantly gleeful with the prospect of paradise and his 70 some odd virgins promised to the Muslim who dies in jihad.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 9:19 pm

      +1

  7. somehistory says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    She wants to equate “mental illness” with not being guilty of the crime. Evidently, he brought a lot of this upon himself with drug abuse and breathing in toxic chemicals.

    In law, one has to be unaware of the criminal aspects of their actions to be found “not guilty by reason of insanity or mental defect.” It has to be that they did not know what was being done was wrong.
    In medicine, there is a different standard of insanity, and not all mental illness is insanity.

    He didn’t tell anyone in the news media, the Justice Department, the NYPD, etc., what he planned because…he knew it was a “criminal act,” and he would be arrested.

    If a person with something like bi-polar disorder breaks into a house and robs a family, that person has a mental health issue, but is still a robber, a burglar if no one is home, a thief, a criminal.

    This guy may have some mental issues…besides what islam wrecks upon a human…but he is still a terrorist as he wanted to bring terror on Times Square and the people there…and upon those who heard about it.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 6:09 pm

      It is not the case that he “did not know what was being done was wrong”.
      He did know that it was right.
      The Koran confirms it,

      • somehistory says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 7:15 pm

        Thankfully, the law that will be applied in his case is not that found in the book of unlawful, and unholy behavior, but those that govern people of all backgrounds and belief… and that law asks: Did he know what he was doing was wrong, ‘against the law, written in the statutes,…whether or not he knew those things written…at the time he planned to murder innocent people with a bomb?
        If he knew the cops would be looking for him, questioning his family and friends, he knew. He just doesn’t agree with it and now his mother wants him to escape punishment because she doesn’t agree with the law either.

  8. MFritz says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    Just look at the photograph. Taqiyya head gear detected! No further questions.

  9. Older Canadian says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 4:41 pm

    Mentally ill? Don’t care. I am done with the nonsense.

  10. Halal Bacon says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 4:46 pm

    I heard if you read the koran backwards you can piss rainbows the next day

    • Jg says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 7:05 pm

      I know I tried but I got motion sickness.

  11. gravenimage says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 6:00 pm

    Canada: Mother of Muslim who plotted to bomb Times Square says he is not a terrorist, he’s mentally ill
    ………………….

    Gee–how come all of these pious Muslims are “mentally ill” in *exactly the same way*?

    By the way, what could be more perverse than this Jihadist wearing a Superman t-shirt?

    • Wellington says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 7:08 pm

      Actually, gravenimage, and writing as a lawyer, I am concerned, from a purely legal standpoint, that Islam is so very screwed up that anyone adhering to it could, ipso facto, be considered mentally ill—which would have all kinds of legal repercussions tending to exculpation of heinous activities in Islam’s name.

      Complicating all of this is that mainstream Western society to this very day, whether in America, the UK, France, Sweden, Canada, et al., is still so convinced that Islam is a good thing that you could essentially have the perverse situation whereby Islam continues to be exonerated but any truly devout Islam acting upon Islam’s many nefarious dictates would be left off the hook on the basis of mental illness.

      This “possibility,” which Robert Spencer has addressed many times in different ways, could prove to be “the dagger of daggers'” that would allow overall exculpation of a belief system that is so injurious to the best that the West has pioneered, liberty above all, all the while it continues to undermine Western liberty PRECISELY because of this Catch-22.

      An enormous difficulty I would argue unless and until Islam is placed in the same category with Nazism and Marxism as stupendously injurious to liberty. Would very much welcome your thoughts on this “matter.”

      • Wellington says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 7:12 pm

        “…but any truly devout Muslim…” rather than “…but any truly devout Islam….”

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 9:23 pm

        I understand your concerns, Wellington.

        The very idea that Islam should be considered a benevolent thing and that anyone who seriously adheres to its tenets is effectively mentally ill shows that many in the West are either ignorant of Islam or suffer from cognitive dissonance themselves…

        • somehistory says

          Jun 21, 2018 at 9:46 pm

          Healthy food, clean air and water are known to help people stay well. If one is ill, these things can help that one regain good health.

          If islam is so good and “benevolent,” then it too, should help people stay well, mentally balanced, sound of mind. Or, if one is mentally ill, it should help to regain mental health.

          This is the logic that seems to escape those who insist that islam is good, and yet, so many are claiming to be mentally ill, or their parents bring forth medical records saying so, when the terrorist is being charged with murderous violence.

          It causes the sane among us to ask: What is wrong with these people who can’t see what is causing all of the problems with moslims?

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 22, 2018 at 8:30 pm

          Good points, Somehistory.

      • Darryl Kerney says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 9:40 pm

        well, destroy their house by their own hands sounds familiar, where have i heard that ?
        oh yeah…..

  12. Indiana Tom says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 6:04 pm

    Gee…all these years and I never knew Superman was a Muslim.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 8:16 pm

      Given that Islam claims that Christ was a Muslim no misappropriation is beyond Islam’s grasp. I am awaiting an announcement that Einstein (and Krauthammer) were actually Muslims.

  13. gravenimage says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 6:22 pm

    True, Jay Boo.

    Speaking of Mortimer, have you seen him lately? He usually posts every day, but seems to be missing in action the last few days.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 22, 2018 at 8:00 pm

      Right you are, Jay Boo. He’s back as of yesterday.

  14. Terry Gain says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    Jay Boo

    I like that you attack insane Islam. There is no reason to attack Mortimer.

  15. Halal Bacon says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 8:20 pm

    OK, so the Koran is a gate-way drug and thus should be banned!

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 9:26 pm

      +1

  16. Darryl Kerney says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Ok, from the argument given, so very often,
    it appears that islam is very attractive to the mentally ill,
    who take it to the “extreme”,
    exactly like all jihadists do,
    perhaps that means something ?

    i think this part is important,

    ” Although he hadn’t previously identified as a Muslim, El Bahnasawy rediscovered the faith after his parents forced him to attend a Mississauga Islamic school, which they felt would not tolerate drug use.
    But like everything else, he took it to the extreme. He dropped out of school and did nothing but sit in his room exploring violent jihadist Internet content and chatting online with ISIS supporters.”

    …El Bahnasawy rediscovered the faith after his parents forced him to attend a Mississauga Islamic school…

    how on earth did he get the idea to wage jihad from an islamic school ?
    what an absolute mystery…..

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 21, 2018 at 9:33 pm

      *Very* good point.

      • Darryl Kerney says

        Jun 21, 2018 at 9:43 pm

        the very hinge that it all depends on.

  17. tiredofstupid says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Sounds alot like Mohammed except he uses the voices he hears to justify drug ddiction instead of sex addiction.

  18. tiredofstupid says

    Jun 21, 2018 at 9:17 pm

    Sounds alot like Mohammed except he uses the voices he hears to justify drug addiction instead of sex addiction.

  19. granddaddy says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 12:22 am

    “…he’s mentally ill” And with the Superman outfit, I’d say he’s made a good start on his defense. But only in our culture. In Islam, the Superman outfit makes for perfect sanity. In fact, everything he’s done proves he is a very good Muslim. The only way he can defend himself, it seems to me, is if he claims he isn’t a Muslim. Because “Records show he’s mentally ill”. So if he’s a Muslim, he can’t be mentally ill, because he’s doing everything right. In which case he’s guilty and he goes to jail. Only as a non-Muslim can he be truly mentally ill. Insane. But that (apostasy) might get him killed.

    It’s tough being a nut case any more. But the Superman outfit, it seems to me, is just the right touch. Superman, I have heard, is no longer for the American way. He’s a Leftist. A globalist. Relativistic Truth, Equality of Outcome, Social Justice, and the World Government Way. I never thought I’d know so much total nonsense. It fits in exactly nowhere with anything American. And that could be real mental illness.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 22, 2018 at 8:39 pm

      Actually, a lot of Westerners wear Superman t-shirts. This in and of itself is hardly a sign of insanity–or of evil. It’s the Jihad that’s that…

      • granddaddy says

        Jun 23, 2018 at 9:30 pm

        I understand what you’re saying. Superman, I always felt, was a good idea. I liked the comics, I liked the radio show, I even liked the TV show. But a grown man running around in tights with his underwear on the outside — there’s just something wrong with that. So maybe this Muslim wacko wasn’t wearing the entire outfit, I don’t know. But I do know that you can’t trust a Muslim to tell you the truth in any case. And he apparently did plot to bomb Times Square. It just seems like someone is trying awfully hard to make excuses.

    • granddaddy says

      Jun 23, 2018 at 9:20 pm

      Holy Red S, Batman! Superman is an illegal alien! That explains everything.

  20. Crystal says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 12:40 am

    Theres no place in Canada for these jihadi fighters. In a muslim country he’d be a hero yet here you say hes mentally ill. Which is it?

  21. Ronen says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 12:40 am

    Haven’t we heard this one before?!

  22. Hayrush says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 12:41 am

    Robert,
    No worries, Trump, Limbaugh,,Hannity, they will look after you.
    All the big shots in America are helping you.Not.
    Sorry about that fact in your face.
    Dead or Alive, they do not care to respond to you.
    Only,,,

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 22, 2018 at 8:50 pm

      What are you babbling about?

  23. Chris Malan says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 3:48 am

    The mother is right. He is mentally ill. He’s a Muslim, isn’t he?

  24. Politicianophobia says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 7:56 am

    October, pot becomes legal in Canada, everyone can get high, do whatever the hell they want and claim mental illness. YAHOOO, there will be no peace upon us. This is what happens when a country elects a mentally ill Prime Minister. Maybe this poor, little, Muslim boy will get 10,000,000 from the unicorn hunter, he may pay him while they are off for summer break and surprise all the Canadians once more.

    Since women are all halfwits (according to the Quran), no doubt the mother is half right.

  25. John Hopwood says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 3:35 pm

    Of course he’s mentally ill – most Muslims are the subject of 1,800 years of inbreeding and incest, consanguinity.

    06 Nov 2017 By Pamela Geller
    Incest in Islam
    THE TRUTH ABOUT ISLAM

    Leftist elites in media and academia insist multiculturalism is the enlightened, progressive and tolerant policy of a modern civilization. Of course, this is absurd, like most of the left’s sophomoric platitudes. What if the culture a civilized society is embracing is savage, racist, misogynistic and supremacist?
    Islam allows a man to have four wives, to marry his cousins and nieces, and to marry children.
    Child marriage & inbreeding (thanks to Ian) – Child marriage rife in Islam (due to the example of Mohammad, marrying Aisha when she was 6 and consummating when she was 9 – he was in his 50s at the time).
    Inbreeding is also rife – Islam allows cousins to marry each other – at least 55% of UK Pakistan Muslims marry a first cousin (BBC), Within Bradford more than 70% of marriages are between relations with more than half involving first cousins. British Pakistani Muslims account for 3% of UK births but account for 30% of UK birth defects (British Medical Association). Islam also allows “double cousins” – if two brothers marry two sisters, then their offspring can marry. Uncles can marry their nieces. Inbreeding has many effects including lowered IQ. Islam needs to reform.
    Percent of all marriages that are consanguine (blood-related), up to;
    34% in Algeria 45% in Bahrain
    33% in Egypt 60% in Iraq
    63% in Jordan 64% in Kuwait
    42% in Lebanon 48% in Libya
    47% in Mauritania 28% in Morocco
    56% in Oman 66% in Palestine [sic]
    54% in Qatar 66% in Saudi Arabia
    63% in Sudan 40% in Syria
    39% in Tunisia 54% in the United Arab Emirates
    44% in Yemen
    (Reproductive Health Journal, 2009 Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs –

    https://reproductive-health-journal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-4755-6-17)

  26. Max says

    Jun 22, 2018 at 7:54 pm

    “Actually, it’s not a terrorist case, it’s a mental illness problem,”

    Have you noticed that Muslims are the only individuals that are both “mentally ill” and try to kill those that don’t belong to their religion?

  27. Vicky says

    Jun 23, 2018 at 4:35 am

    Left wing governments lie and use mental illness as a defense for islamic terrorism, hoping no one will recognize that all muslims are muslim only because they choose to align with savage cultists. They force us to wait until another muslim becomes an activated jihadi and kills another innocent victim. So we, like sitting ducks, wait to be killed.

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