“Some 60 Palestinians were killed in ‘March of Return’ protests orchestrated by the Palestinian terror group Hamas on May 14, which is also the secular date of Israel’s Independence. Hamas leaders later said that at least 50 of those killed were members of the terror group.”
Ocasio-Cortez, however, insisted that it was a “massacre.” This is the Left, and the Democrat Party today: the facts just don’t matter. The only thing that matters is the narrative that reinforces their preconceptions.
“Democratic Socialist who upset NY Rep. Joe Crowley said Israel committed a ‘massacre’ in Gaza,” JNS, June 27, 2018:
(June 27, 2018 / JNS) A Democratic Socialist who upset Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) in a primary on Tuesday night had previously said that Israel had committed “massacre” in the Gaza Strip.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, who soundly defeated Crowley as part of a party primary for New York’s 14th congressional district, which covers parts of Queens and the Bronx, on Tuesday, is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America, which supports the BDS movement.
In a May 14 tweet, Ocasio-Cortez said that Israel’s killing of Palestinians along the Gaza border was a “massacre” and that “no state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters.”
“There is no justification. Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, as anyone else,” she said. “Democrats can’t be silent about this anymore.”
Some 60 Palestinians were killed in “March of Return” protests orchestrated by the Palestinian terror group Hamas on May 14, which is also the secular date of Israel’s Independence. Hamas leaders later said that at least 50 of those killed were members of the terror group….
elee says
Hey ADL, make some noise now
esther says
the adl—–of late—-is pussified into dhimmia
Emilie Green says
Crowley was an all-too-typical downstate NY liberal, holding all the bein-pensant positions (even if they go against the Scripture which he was taught as a boy). A tax-&-spender, the Constitution-be-damned (despite his many oaths to obey it) Democrat. Who cares he lost. The bigger and more worrying concern is the person who’ll be taking the seat he once called his. Her positions are frightening. And she represents the au-courant Democrat Party.
Sons of Liberty says
I agree Emilie ! Just what our Country needs another Marxist Democrat in the people’s House . She wants the government to CONTROL everything . New York ,… a State that was crucial in our INDEPENDENCE is now more ANTI – AMERICAN and ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL than ever !
souare says
The girl looks and acts very ditzy as if on something, and ignorant as hell. SMH. Where does the Democratic find people like that?
souare says
This dummy girl has never ever read any of Marx’s 3 vols. of Das Kapital.
Hari Singh says
Very few have read Marx’s three volumes of Das Capital what to speak of the subsequent volumes on surplus labor. Castro admitted he did not he said he read the first 27 pages and gave up.
The Democratic Socialists of America are very anti Israel. Recently they held the vote on Palestine on Saturday to keep the non self hating Jewish faction from voting and after victory, sang ”Palestine, Palestine from the river to the Sea”. The chant of renewed genocide against the Jews.
Joe Crowley should run as an independent against her only 28k votes were submitted while Crowley has won tens of tens of thousands more votes than that. But Crowley’s and his refusal to vote for medicare for all single payer killed him in Berniestan.
gravenimage says
From what I have seen, Crowley’s replacement is quite a bit worse.
WESTPAC Spy says
I actually think it’s a good thing this radical socialist idiot beat the milk toast Democrat. It takes the mask completely off and that can only help us. She can’t hide behind the same lies Crowley hid behind and she doesn’t want to. And even if she wanted to the sake of prudence and retail politics she can’t help her socialist anti-American self.
Great, is all I can say. We need to make her the face of the Democratic party.
esther says
no one should be surprised. It’s the FASHION——Cortez (the politician—baby though
she is —not naive )—did pick up all kinds of “support” by buying into the filth of such as
“”linda sarsour” It’s the popular crap these days. Hopefully, that hypocrite will, one day,
fall off the bandwagon
eduardo odraude says
Yep, it’s about what’s the “latest” thing, something “fresh” and “new,” because the Dems’ old positions are a boring mix of socialism and capitalism. “Democratic state socialism” such as Cortez promotes however is not the cure for the problems and injustices of capitalism. The cure rather is for people engaged in economic life to make it more cooperative and transparent in a freely contractual way as a matter of self-interest. Progress is already being made in this direction through a new corporate form called benefit corporations. Legislation permitting people to form benefit corporations has been passed with bipartisan support in 35 states in the last decade or so, and is under consideration in a half dozen more states. What is a benefit corporation? Basically, if you decide to form a benefit corporation, you as a corporate officer are legally permitted and required to consider not just shareholder profits, but also the interests of other stakeholders: workers, suppliers, the environment, the community. It’s just a start in the direction I’m talking about, namely toward a freely contractual but cooperative capitalism that is independent of the state.
In fact, stakeholder capitalism (another name for the direction I’m talking about) tends to keep the economy and state apart more than traditional shareholder capitalism does. Shareholder capitalism leads to wealthy special interests taking over the state in many cases, and that then provokes a counterproductive socialist response. That becomes a back and forth takeover of the state by the economy, then the economy by the state, so that they state and economy increasingly become corrupt appendages of each other.
By contrast, stakeholder capitalism makes state intervention in the economy less necessary or called for, and because stakeholder capitalism spreads ownership more broadly, it makes economic manipulation of the state by wealthy special interests less likely, which in turn provokes fewer socialistic counteractions. In short, stakeholder capitalism tends to short-circuit the whole partisan dialectic between socialists and traditional capitalists, a dialectic whereby they corruptly strengthen each other and form a rotten amalgam that can eventually tip toward full blown state socialism. So if you believe state socialism is bad news, the best cure is not traditional capitalism, which provokes increasing state socialism. The cure rather is freely self-organizing new forms of more cooperative and transparent capitalism. And that is already happening and has been slowly growing for decades. It is a trend that should be further supported.
Besides benefit corporations, there is something slightly different but equally or more important called “certified B corps.” Just one example of the kind of thing that moves in the direction of stakeholder capitalism, certified B Corps (and other cooperative capitalist innovations) are in the end the only thing that will permanently and irreversibly undermine state socialism, keep the economy based on free contract rather than state centralism, and keep state and economy independent of one another. Here’s a 2 minute intro to certified B corps. Remember, the perfect should not be made the enemy of the good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-VFZUFJwt4
eduardo odraude says
PS, that video is out of date, there are now some 2600 companies in 50 countries that are certified B Corps. The non-profit B Lab guides companies that want to become certified B Corps through a process that determines whether a company is taking adequate care of workers, the environment, and suppliers (for example, does the company avoid suppliers that exploit child labor in poisonous factories in some third world country?). B Lab also shows companies how to improve their standards if they are not already high enough to earn a B Lab certification as a “B Corp.” Notice, all of this is completely voluntary. It is not mandated or organized by the state. It is what one of the founders of B Lab referred to as “capitalism 2.0”.
paul budrunas says
Eduardo,
Most excellent contribution! Thank you.
Glenn says
What on earth are you doing here babbling about this nonsense? B corps are a fetish of prog-neomarxist dingbats who don’t understand free markets and why they are the most moral of all economic environments.
You pose as some kind of seer with a cause, lol. It’s just so ludicrous. Fyi, there are many forms of corporate organizations and also company charters that can address concerns beyond profit.
I really am sick to death of ignorant peasants babbling about nonsense as though it’s revelatory. Get a job or do something important with your life. This is so absurd and unnecessary, truly.
eduardo odraude says
Glenn, stop talking like an inbred low IQ jerk. You don’t know WTF you are talking about. If you did, you would not say that B corps entail not understanding free markets or their moral value, and you would not paint B Corps as a “Marxist” fetish. Contrary to your ignoramus statement charging Marxism, many Republicans have been very supportive of benefit corporation legislation.
You are the perfect mirror image of the lefties who paint even centrists as fascists. B Corps are not Marxist or neo-marxist. They operate very successfully in free markets, are totally voluntary, and totally based on free contract. They involve no intervention by the state. Nor do they set up monopolies.
Furthermore, you say to me “Fyi…” etc., and then idiotically tell me what I myself said in my comment, which you obviously did not read before you proceeded to a ridiculous rant no doubt due to your ancient mental furniture being ever so slightly disturbed. Since you are obviously a dim bulb, I’ll be clear: “Fyi,” I myself noted in my comment that there are various forms of capitalism moving in the direction I’m talking about, not just certified Bs. Before you open your flapdragon mouth, you ought to actually read what you are pretending to talk about.
I’ve no problem with someone disagreeing, as someone else indeed did politely. I would have been more receptive to a polite complaint from you about a long disquisition not on the subject of Islam, though you could easily just scroll past the comment if you found it not worth your time.
But if you go into gratuitous attack mode when you clearly didn’t bother to read what you are attacking and you respond with stupid stereotypes, you can be sure I’ll attack you right back like a pit bull. So let’s have at it if that’s what you want.
Or alternatively, we can cool it. That’s what I’d prefer, so I’ll switch gears and apologize for offensive statements in this comment, since I’m sure you have another side, and anyway, I accept that there’s some justice in your very imperfect complaint, and I even promise no more comments from me about B corps. Now, I don’t know if you want to keep going in the style you used before. If so, I guess I can switch gears back again, and we can waste some more time pissing at each other.
Sons of Liberty says
eduardo , that is not Capitalism but rather a form of socialism which will eventually lead to the inability of the corporation to SUSTAIN itself in an ever increasing competitive business world. The corporation’s first responsibility is to MAKE MONEY ( PROFITS) for it’s shareholders ! That will enable the corporation to stay in business and share the benefits with others which is already being done in MANY CORPORATIONS with ESOPs, employee stock plans with discounted public prices. Socialism leads to mediocrity ,… like Gordon Gecko once said ,.”.Greed for lack of a better term is good ” . Why ? Because it leads to innovation , imagination and productivity which is what our GREAT Country was built on .
eduardo odraude says
Sons of Liberty,
I’ve promised Glenn I would not say anything further on this subject, so, though I disagree with most of your assumptions and conclusions, I’ll leave it at that. I’m grateful you stated your view politely. That’s good enough for me.
Indiana Tom says
B Lab also shows companies how to improve their standards if they are not already high enough to earn a B Lab certification as a “B Corp.” Notice, all of this is completely voluntary. It is not mandated or organized by the state. It is what one of the founders of B Lab referred to as “capitalism 2.0”.
If companies want to voluntarily be a B Corp, okay, just keep the government out of it.
The corporation’s first responsibility is to MAKE MONEY ( PROFITS) for it’s shareholders ! That will enable the corporation to stay in business and share the benefits with others which is already being done in MANY CORPORATIONS with ESOPs, employee stock plans with discounted public prices.
If you cannot make money, you tend not to last too long in private enterprise. Crony Government Capitalism is another story.
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
Watching Zionists trying to defend Israel is like watching Stalinists defending Stalin. As bad as Palestinians are, that doesn’t magically make Israel good.
DogOnPorch says
The Palestinian Cause was created by one of Hitler’s Nazis.
esther says
try to be, at least, a little specific, saint pally-ass. Do you have something
credible to say about a mob of thousands intent in RIPPING THE HEARTS
out of people on the other side of a fence? In fact —-a mob already practiced
in so doing upon the bodies of infants?
eduardo odraude says
To “St. Manuel II Palailogos”,
You are at least skeptical that Israel is good.
But a question that then arises is whether you find Israel actually “bad”? Or do you take some middle position?
And what about the nation you come from, or the nation you now call home? Are they “good” or “bad”, and how would you rate them compared to Israel?
Are you singling out Israel only as a reaction to what some others here say about Israel? Or are you singling out Israel because you think Israel is notably “bad”?
Would you agree that Israel is, compared to many states in the world today, well above average in its respect for human rights and in the creativity of its culture and its economy? Would you agree that the North Korean and Iranian and Palestinian governments are distinctly inferior morally to the Israeli government (this does not mean the Israeli government is “good” — only that it is far superior to those just mentioned).
By answering some of these questions, you could avoid provocation if you cared to avoid it.
Wellington says
To compare Zionists to Stalinists, as you have, is Beyond the Pale. It is also grossly stupid. Moreover, any extremists (e.g., the Stern Gang) in the Zionist movement even before Israel came into existence were eventually weeded out by the moderates in said movement. The exact opposite happened with the so-called Palestinians, to wit, that any moderates that existed among them were weeded out by the extremists (e.g., Arafat). Huge difference. And while Israel is not magically good a la your rhetoric, it remains the only free polity in all of the Middle East and where Israeli-Arabs enjoy far more freedoms than do Arabs in the over twenty Arab countries that exist. Wise up.
Sons of Liberty says
+1 Well said Wellington !
No Bread or Circuses says
Excellent!
Glenn says
Giggling, Pali-lover. The Palis are very lucky Israel exercises as much restraint as it does. It could overrun all of Palestine and take it any time it wants, and can slaughter any opposition at will. The Palis would be like lambs to the slaughter.
don vito says
How brazenly wrong you are! I would like to know if you know the true meaning of zionist? Not the pal/progressive meaning, but the real, honest meaning? If so, state it here, and then admit your post is deficient of truth.
gravenimage says
Is anyone surprised that the nasty St. Manuel II Palailogos–who openly hates freedom and democracy and condemns all non-Orthodox Christians–also hates Jews? *Ugh*.
Tom W Harris says
F off.
Indiana Tom says
Israel is flawed, but looks really great compared to the Fuzzy Muzzies.
Jeff says
If she’s elected, game over
RichardL says
She will get elected for sure. And that‘s great because sane democrats will see her campaign and vote for Republicans. I mean, even Pelosi, who is clearly clinically insane is fighting off the looney left in her party. Trump pushed the pendulum back.
WPM says
Crowley was being “groomed” by the democratic party leadership to take over Pelosi spot if she runs for president in 2020 ,now he is pushed out by a 28 year old communist after over 20 years as a congressman .This will push the democratics to pander extra hard for the looney left to stay in power ,the looney left love the Islamic voting block. They hate Christian Jewish values that help hold western civilization together, they love identity politics ,victimhood is their main political currency .Islam main driving force is violence, threats of violence ,perceive victimhood ,and projection the lefts used the same tactics to push their agenda both brothers from different mothers of political beliefs.
brane pilot says
Non-white candidates all over the world vote the social, economic and political interests of their tribe. Their ambition is to coerce cultural, language and economic concessions from society that benefit their group at the expense of other groups. They have many children and vote their future.
Whites vote whatever they see in a magic romper room bubble of politically correct illusions. Their ambition is to feel nice about themselves. They have dogs and cats and careers and vote for the future of other’s children at the expense of their own because that has replaced religion.
The year is 2050. Guess who won.
gravenimage says
Not all of them–but all too many.
somehistory says
And her mother said her goal is to be President, “sitting in the Oval office.”
There was a character on the old Carol Burnett Show, played by Jim Nabors, named “Young Fool.”
That name fits this “socialist democrat” a whole lot better.
She’s a parrot squawking out what she has heard and to which she has been listening.
Don McKellar says
She is a raving left-fascist whacko who only got 27,000 votes to win it because almost nobody showed up!
What this shows is how incredibly weak the Democrats are.Here’s the guy who was favored to take over Nancy the Nut for her position, and he loses to this. They’ve got nothing but thug tactics to use at this point, the Russia con is in free-fall and spinning around like a boomerang to hit them, and the shreiking lunatic Maxine Waters emerged as the face of the party. The only way they can’t be swept away in 2018 elections would be apathy from would be Republican voters.
Don McKellar says
My mistake, SHE ONLY GOT 15,897 in Queens and the Bronx to win this position.
eduardo odraude says
Repubs seem to be happy about her. They suppose she will cause many Dems to shift Republican. I hope Republican confidence is justified.
Tom says
What about the genocide of Yazidi’s and Christians in the Middle East?
The new crip of “democrats” are just your average lying, hypocritical, left wing melon head (green on the outside but RED on the inside) who will say and do anything to promote the Palestinian terrorist state and undermine the USA.
Obama clones with a touch of Bernie Sanders for good measure.
Older Canadian says
It never ceases to amaze me that anyone that travels and interacts with the suppressed people in countries south of the USA cannot see the root of the problems they have. Especially so for a person who’s heritage is from that part of the world, and now is living in the USA and enjoying all of its benefits.
So what is her objective. To bring the same socialist/communist agenda to the USA so that all will live in equal misery. It is easier to go down a ladder than up, takes less energy, and strength.
eduardo odraude says
In large parts of South America, for a long time “capitalism” meant something very different from what the word has meant in North America. In South America it meant something like mercantilism where an authoritarian state was in league with a few giant monopolies, and there was little or no middle class, but instead a small number of hugely rich families oppressing a huge number of dirt poor people. Marxists then labeled that situation as “capitalism” or course, and perhaps because such situations were endemic for a long time, the name stuck for many in South America. On the other hand, many there have known, and nowadays many more than before know, that capitalism as the US, Europe, and many other places practice it is not that. Still, you have a lot of silly thoughtless people who don’t get the obvious. And so you get the disaster in Venezuela.
Indiana Tom says
To bring the same socialist/communist agenda to the USA so that all will live in equal misery. It is easier to go down a ladder than up, takes less energy, and strength.
Make America Venezuela again.
Paul says
One could say the same about muslims who bring their agenda from their violent, oppressive countries.
Wellington says
The Democratic Party has demonstrated again that is has lost its collective mind. It’s gotten to the point where what is good for the Democratic Party is bad for America. Since it is the one of the two major parties in this country this is indeed an ominous development. Much more trouble ahead I fear.
eduardo odraude says
It is ironic but not surprising that the Democrats — because they hysterically and without real justification misperceive Trump as a threat to democracy — have themselves threatened democracy and continue to threaten it, lately with violence. We have the attempted murder of Republican congressmen (at a softball game was it?), also the violent attack on Rand Paul, we have people coming up to Trump Admin staff in recent days and yelling in their faces, making it impossible for them to go to movies or eat in restaurants, we have Maxine Waters rabble rousing, calling for mobs to harass Trump people. Her constituents, whoever they are, should remove her from office if they can. And as the objective Democrat Alan Dershowitz has argued, the Dems, with the investigation of the Trump administration, have sought to criminalize political differences. When you criminalize political differences, you are not operating democratically anymore. ‘
Admittedly, Trump is not entirely blameless in this, since in an early rally he once called for people to be rough on a protester and said he would pay the legal bills. Still the responsibility for what Dems are doing falls on Dems. (At least some of them have rejected Waters’ call for mob rule and harassment. How ignorant does a person have to be to try to rabble rouse mobs against an elected government? )
don vito says
What happened in their safe spaces? They were so afraid of conservatives on campus, they wanted safety, now they have left their safe spaces and want to make sure you are not safe if you disagree with them.
eduardo odraude says
One of the many ironies of politics.
mariam rove says
Cortez should be more concerned with MS 13 and the the Mexican cartels massacring thousands of innocent Mexican each day and not worry about what is going on with the criminal Muslims in the Gaza or the west bank. M
Voytek Gagalka says
They are insane with their misguided “feelings” for terrorists and terrorist organizations. She is an example of a woman “thinking” with her uterus instead of her brain. Human shield was designed and arranged by HAM-ASSes: they are exclusively responsible for death to their own people.
gravenimage says
I don’t think she’s “thinking with her uterus”–there are absurd Leftist men, as well.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
We want Mr Spencer to Inquire from his masters the most wicked fascist evil Zionist state of Israel what were weapons being carried by Palestinian protesters when they were being killed?Does Mr Spencer want tell us that protesting against illegal occupation by fascist evil Zionists has justified mass killings of Palestinians according to samuel 15:3 inspired by the Satan in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods and therefore not a massacre? This is exactly what led apartheid evil United United States to withdraw from Human Rights council for fear that if such killings are investigated fascist Zionist state will be found guilty of genocidal killings and crimes against humanity. Days are coming when the Satan in yahweh will be arrested to get fascist evil Zionists tracked down and bring them to justice for crimes against humanity
don vito says
itace, are you progressing towards apostasy? Have you been researching for the answer to the question you asked, “when did Jesus (Yeshua) become the Son of God”? It was a good question, seeking the answer will lift you out of slavery. Good luck, you will know when you have found the correct answer.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
don Vito, I aske a question :when and how did Jesus become the begotten son of God and when and how he became Godman?
Wellington says
I ask a question too, Ibrahim, when and how did Mohammed, a brutal psychopath, narcissist, rapist and pedophile, become “the last and greatest of the prophets?”
Yes, what proof do you have? Yep, I want details. Your turn, Ibrahim.
And know upfront I think the Koran no evidence at all. The abrogation nonsense alone makes it risible and dismissible. Its almost mindless repetitiveness is another reason why the Koran is a joke. Here’s yet a third reason: 64% of the Koran is either about waging war upon unbelievers or despising them.
I submit (not meant at all in an Islamic way) this is no way to begin a religion. But this is exactly how Islam began and which is partially why (after all, there are many other reasons) I have no respect for Allah, Mo or the Koran. All three are a cruel joke upon humanity; often a lethal joke as well. But first and foremost a joke overall.
eduardo odraude says
I doubt Ibrahim Itace Muhammad has ever really thought much about the possibility that Muhammad was not a prophet but a clever conman perhaps inspired by something demonic. If you believed in Muhammad all your life, and everyone in your family and community believed in him, it would take a lot of courage to start questioning the religion seriously, even in the privacy of one’s own thoughts.
Interestingly, according to the Islamic sources, when “Gabriel” first came to Muhammad on Mt. Hira, “Gabriel” grabbed Muhammad around the neck in a quite threatening way, commanding Muhammad to “recite” — Muhammad at first did not know what to say or how to “recite” and “Gabriel” pressed Muhammad’s neck again, and finally after the third time of pressing Muhammad with great force, Muhammad began speaking the Qur’an.
Interestingly — something Ibrahim Itace Muhammad might do well to reconsider — the Islamic sources say that Muhammad afterward thought he had been possessed by a jinn or a demon. That is very curious and not like angelic encounters in the Bible. Biblical angels did not threateningly approach and forcefully grab the necks of Biblical prophets, physically compelling them to obey. Muhammad even became suicidal according to the Islamic sources. He had to be convinced by his wife that he was a prophet — after the meeting with “Gabriel,” Muhammad had no assurance of being a prophet of God, and indeed thought the force that had overcome him was a bad one.
Also interesting is how many things in the Qur’an almost directly invert the story of Jesus. For example, there is the biblical story of how the devil told Jesus to throw himself down from a the highest point of the temple, and said that God’s angels would save him if he was the Son of God. Jesus is said to have refused and told the devil, “it is written that thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test.” In Muhammad’s case, by contrast, the Islamic sources say that after the first appearances of “Gabriel” to Muhammad, he had a period of depressions because “Gabriel” had not shown up for a while, and consquently, Muhammad would go up onto cliffs and threaten to throw himself down if Gabriel did not appear to him. “Gabriel” or some force would then appear to him and stop him from jumping. There are lots of other odd inversions in the Qur’an of things in the Bible. In some theologies, I’ve heard the demonic described as generally inverting sacred patterns, apparently for the sake of deliberate sacrilege and mockery.
Indiana Tom says
I asked a question :when and how did Jesus become the begotten son of God and when and how he became Godman?
Read the Gospel of John.
On another note, I have watched videos where the blood of the shroud of Turin had some very interesting DNA. X was normal, but the Y was very unique and not like a normal human.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
welligton, I submit that you are an ignorant liar and that mithraist christian main doctrines of Godman and begotten son of God came from paganism of mithraism of old inspired by the Satan christians Call Holy Spirit. In one of my earlier comments I gave reasons why present day christianity is paganism inspired by the Satan, not taught by Prophet Jesus and prophet moses,relying on cogent and irrefutable historical evidence not mithraist Bible concocted by anonymous writers more than a century after jesus’departure. Bart Erhman’s and Helen Ellerbe’s works provide a good background on such historical evidence.
Wellington says
Ibrahim: I asked you about Allah, Mo and the Koran and you went off on a screed (btw, you are excellent in the “screed category”) about Jesus and me being a liar. So typical of one who is out of arguments to not answer the questions posed to him—like you.
And I’ve read Ehrman and thinks he makes some fair points but this has NOTHING to do with that gigantic fraud, one Mohammed by name. Hey, next time answer the query or queries put to you. When I ask you about Mo, don’t start “talking Jesus.” When you pull shit like this it only reveals to any sensible person that you are incapable of defending what you believe in.
So, I will again put this question to you: What proof do you have that Mohammed was the last and greatest of the prophets? I say he was a giant, psychopathic, brutal, narcissistic fraud. And any deity who would choose this piece of filth to be “the last and greatest of the prophets” is a deity who deserves no respect whatsoever. Take it from here, Ibrahim, that is if you’re able, which I have no reason to date to think you are.
Yep, Mo sucks. Allah sucks. And the Koran sucks. Forget Jesus. Refute what I have put before you. Prove me wrong. Bet you can’t.
TheBuffster says
Ibrahim said: “welligton, I submit that you are an ignorant liar and that mithraist christian main doctrines of Godman and begotten son of God came from paganism of mithraism of old inspired by the Satan christians Call Holy Spirit. ”
Ibrahim, is there nothing in the Koran or the traditions of Islam that originated in a pagan religion?
gravenimage says
I see that Ibrahim itace muhammed is again claiming that defending against Jihad is “genocide”.
He recently said that Trump’s trying to keep Jihadists out of the US is also “genocide”.
eduardo odraude says
Islam, as you know, has very frequently engaged in a slow and sometimes not slow genocide of the non-Muslim cultures with which it comes in contact. What is left — one can see this in many Muslim countries — is a population virtually all Muslim. All the other cultures — gone. They were forced out in far greater numbers than the “Palestinians”. The process of ethnic cleansing might take centuries, but it did happen through the Islamic “encouragements” of brutalization, enslavement, discrimination, humiliation, murder, rape, jizya, and dhimmitude.
eduardo odraude says
A large part of the cleansing, of course, was through the fact that non-Muslims, to escape brutalization, discrimination, and humiliation, converted to Islam.
gravenimage says
All true, Eduardo.
Paul says
You morons have been saying that this day has been coming for the last 70 years, but Israel keeps getting stronger while her neighbors are in constant strife. You morons prolong the conflict with your fanatical hatreds and idolizing of terrorists. Fools, scumbags, all of you.
gravenimage says
Democratic Socialist who upset NY Rep. Joe Crowley said Israel committed a ‘massacre’ in Gaza,” JNS, June 27, 2018:
………………………………
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is an idiot–or worse.
She also wants to completely abolish ICE.
paul budrunas says
Am I the only person that understands that there never was a country of Palestine with borders that was recognized as a nation state? The claim of Palestinians that Israel has no legal claim to the land within the state of Israel’s borders is historical nonsense. Palestinians always have been wandering nomadic desert tribes that have no legitimate claim to any lands! Palestine always has been a vague area with no borders and no country. Get over it.
eduardo odraude says
That is a frequent theme at this website, which is part of why people often put “Palestinian” in quotes here.
gravenimage says
Yes.
David M says
She’s a communist who wants ICE disbanded, in other words she wants open borders. She’s a dangerous person, looks like this is how far the Democrats have fallen.
eduardo odraude says
Not sure she’s dangerous. Repubs seem to think she’s an asset in their efforts to get Dems to jump ship and vote Repub. There’s a decent chance she’ll be small potatoes, as her position is apparently fairly extreme. She may even turn into a joke. Then again, youth is forgiven a certain amount of silliness, so who knows where the will to power will take her…I wonder if the Dem party will develop a a socialist faction that will split away from the liberals. The Dem base really wants a fresh path and views the Dems often as just Repub-lite. Never mind that “socialism” is not actually a fresh path.
Paul says
Correct–this district would vote for a clueless liberal regardless, so having a far left idiot like this only helps Republicans make better ads and attract more voters and money.
Indiana Tom says
“Democratic Socialist who upset NY Rep. Joe Crowley
They voted for Cortez over Crowley because it was a Latino district that got tired of their white liberal representative. I find it amusing that white liberals think they are going to control their “minority” clients. See how the New World Order championed by the Bush and Clinton Dynasties works out.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Ocasio-Cortez is an inexperienced politician in New York. She may be in need of a seasoned advisor and aide. I hear that Huma Abedin may be available. She could show Ocasio-Cortez how to wear a hijab, you know, for empowerment. She may also be able to recommend some (in)discreet IT consultants.
I hope I’m joking…
Gamaliel says
Here are undercover videos about what really happened in Gaza.
https://vimeo.com/267378152
https://vimeo.com/271215407
Hogdude says
This lovely young lady is a political novice who probably will burn out quickly. Socialism lasts until the bills start to come in and there’s no money to pay for things. Good luck to being a party of two (Bernie & her) om the Congress. Oh, I forgot Keith Ellison of Minnesota as the token Muslim.
Paul says
Actually, there is a place where socialism has lasted and, in fact, adapted with some degree of success. Ironically, the place is known as an Israeli kibbutz, something this stupid lady would be shocked to hear about.
gravenimage says
Israel had some Socialist tendencies in her early days, but she has largely abandoned them for free trade now.
terry says
‘The end justifies the means’ is the calling card of the left.
I’m more surprised when they don’t lie.
Felix Quigley says
There is no Marxist leadership or party in America and there is no such party in the world. The Stalinists murdered all of the Trotskyists in the Thirties ending in the murder of Leon Trotsky in 1940 in Mexico. Socialism was left without a leadership. The responsibility is Stalin.
This lady is not Marxist in any way. Those who would say so do not understand anything about Marxism and especially about its history.
America is faced with the complete destruction of its essence as a nation by massive immigration. That is what all of these events are about. She is closely tied in with Trump hatred.
And Trump hatred which in essence does not accept the result of a democratic election (Maxine Waters is one example) is a step on the road to Fascism.
Against such tendencies I defend President Trump and that does not imply agreement with many of his positions, above all on global warming, and his reliance on oil and dismissal of science.
But I still defend Trump against what is becoming in America Fascists like Waters.
Antisemitism for such “socialists” becomes the “socialism of fools”. There is a history to this.