French police thwarted an attack on a swingers’ club in the Loiret region north of Paris last month, arresting a ‘radicalised convert’ to Islam….Searches found two knives, a detonation system and IS propaganda material in their possession…..there were elements to suggest they planned to attack homosexuals.
The treatment of gays in various Muslim countries: Chechnya has gay torture camps; Iran stones and hangs gays; other Muslim countries that murder gays include Iraq, Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Mauritania. The Islamic State was infamous for its “shocking war on gays” and for throwing them headfirst off rooftops. The Sun reported a case in which Islamic State jihadis threw a man accused of being gay off a roof and pelted his corpse with rocks in a public execution.
“When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes,” and “Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to.” (Abu Dawud 4462 and al-Tirmidhi 1456)
Many Muslims who believe these things hijacked the refugee stream and are now in Europe; many others take up these beliefs via the Internet, as well as in mosques, Muslim no-go zones, prisons and the like. But to warn about and discuss these grave issues renders one “Islamophobic.”
“French police thwarted an attack on a Paris SWINGERS club by ‘radicalised convert’ to Islam,” AFP, June 14, 2018:
French police thwarted an attack on a swingers’ club in the Loiret region north of Paris last month, arresting a ‘radicalised convert’ to Islam, a source close to the inquiry said today.
‘An improvised explosive device was found at his home and the man admitted that he wanted to use it to target a swingers’ club,’ the source told AFP.
The plot is the fifth to be thwarted in France this year and comes with the country still on high alert after a string of jihadist assaults since 2015 that have claimed more than 240 lives.
It was revealed just hours after police sources said two men had been charged on suspicion of planning an attack in the name of Islamic State which may have targeted gay people.
Sources close to the probe said the men, described as friends aged 21 and 22, were arrested Saturday in the Seine-et-Marne region east of Paris.
Searches found two knives, a detonation system and IS propaganda material in their possession, a source said.
‘Their plan was still ill-defined at this stage, but there were elements to suggest they planned to attack homosexuals,’ one source added.
mortimer says
When the jihadis attack, the LEFTARDS are SILENT and ABANDON their supposed friends, gay people, women and other minorities. By supporting Islamic supremacism the LEFTARDS abandon every principle that they have claimed to endorse.
The LEFTARDS couldn’t care less about gay rights or women’s rights. Leftards are only concerned about their OWN RIGHTS to GOVERN without limits.
The LEFTARDS show by their inconsistencies that their only concern is the acquisition of POWER TO GOVERN.
Power is the only PROGRAM that Leftards have. Leftards are AUTHORITARIANS.
Garfield says
Well said!
Santa Voorhees says
“The plot is the fifth to be thwarted in France this year”
I wonder how many plots were thwarted in Poland, Hungary, Japan and other sane countries…. probably near 0.
jayell says
Now, I wonder why that might be? (Silly question of course).
MFritz says
The question is why don’t we hear about these too. (Because too many reports would cause a stronger reaction from the public.)
J D S says
Oh yes it’s a good thing to thwart attacks….But….there should have been NO attempts in the first place…….Everyone with any sense at all knows why. Too late now unless these migrant countries are put under military controls, working with local law enforcement and are cleaned out of ungodly, unworthy, un-needed migrants..Of course that would be considered war…What do we have now peacefulness????
gravenimage says
+1
boris says
In the Netherlands gays are frequently targeted by Moroccan moslims. They hardly get punished. Politicians of the left who in a far away past were pro-gay rights keep their mouths shut about this. To not lose the moslim vote.
LeftisruiningCanada says
No principle but power.
jayell says
“French police thwart jihad attack on Paris swingers club, Muslims “planned to attack homosexuals”….”
And these barbaric organisms actually need a reason to attack anything that’s off their home territory?
Lebel says
Firstly, it is good that these terrorists were arrested by the French police.
Second, why do we believe the French police here while in other threads we think they are part of a cover-up to protect Islam and murderous Muslims?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/paris-armed-man-takes-hostages-demands-to-speak-to-iranian-embassy-cops-say-its-not-terrorism
LeftisruiningCanada says
I’d say that there is a pretty shifty definition being used when it comes to connecting things to ‘terrorism”.
We have seen many times that for a jihadi to be considered linked to terrorism, he or she needs to be carrying a membership card, more or less, otherwise it just doesn’t count.
This may be because it is in the interest of certain politicians to play down the fact that any muslim, as a member of the ummah, is already linked to an international terrorist organization.
Lebel says
I disagree (although I am happy to be proven wrong if you provide evidence with clear cases)
What I have seen is that when a jihadi does something unconnected to any organization then it is a lone-wolf attack. I think the conspiracy theorists are usually referring to cases when non-Muslims commit atrocities (how could they do it? they are not Muslim after all so it must be a cover up) or when an Arab or another middle eastern ethnicity commits a crime (the assumption here is that people with Muslim names cannot simply be crazy, disturbed without being inspired by the Quran).
It is very clear that terrorists are proud of their acts and WANT everyone to know that they are doing it for Islamic reasons. It is also not that difficult for investigators to see the link even if the suspect is shot dead.
So either the police is part of a vast conspiracy to protect Islam (in which case a) why would they report on arresting Islamic terrorist and b) why do we trust people who have been deceiving us in order to help Islam take over and kill us all?) or there is no conspiracy and people like RS who have been pushing this narrative on their gullible readers have a lot to answer for.
gravenimage says
Of course, no one here has ever claimed that non-Muslims never commit acts of violence–certainly not Robert Spencer. How many times has Lebel flogged this straw man here?
Meanwhile, he demands that we ignore the mushrooming Jihad threat.
LeftisruiningCanada says
For evidence, just look back at cases where muslims have stabbed or run down or otherwise attacked unbelievers. Often these acts are not called terrorism, and the person is said to have no ties to ‘a terrorist group”.
And yet he cried out allahu akbar and was a member of the ummah.
Which is and always has been an organization believing in violence against unbelievers for the purposes of political gain.
Lebel says
Crying Allahu Akbar during an attack is evidence of terrorism/extremism and I believe it is treated as such in most cases.
Are there such cases (where a lone Muslim attacked and yelled allahu akbar) that were not treated as terrorism? It would be good to have clear examples
LeftisruiningCanada says
I was really meaning to focus on individual muslims not being said to have links to ‘international terrorism’, rather than their acts being called terrorism as such.
I will take a quick look through older stories to check out whether or not what we would consider a terrorist attack has been written off as ‘mental illness’ or some such excuse however.
LeftisruiningCanada says
So i looked over a few lowlife highlights from the last year:
The edmonton stabber/driver was judged fit to stand trial, but i find no mention of it being called a terrorist attack.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-terrorist-police-sharif-1.4575873
Fort Lauderdale shooter deemed to have no links to terrorism, despite saying that he had been watching ISIS videos, chatting in jihadi forums and sporting a nice islamic style beard.
There were several stabbings at Milan central station last summer:
“Mamoud Diallo, a 31-year-old Guinea immigrant, who was given an extradition order on July 4. It was reported that the man was shouting that he wanted “to die for Allah,” when being taken to the police station. However, police officials have said that they do not recognize the incident as a terrorist attack, speculating that the man probably suffers from a mental health disorder.”
This was just a quick 10 minute search.
gravenimage says
The dishonest Lebel wrote:
Crying Allahu Akbar during an attack is evidence of terrorism/extremism and I believe it is treated as such in most cases.
Are there such cases (where a lone Muslim attacked and yelled allahu akbar) that were not treated as terrorism? It would be good to have clear examples
……………………………
“Spanish police shoot Muslim screaming “Allahu akbar” holding “suspicious object,” cops say not terror-related”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/11/spanish-police-shoot-muslim-screaming-allahu-akbar-with-suspicious-object-cops-say-not-terror-related
And here are a whole slew of cases:
“Allahu Akbar-itis”
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/11/nyc-attacker-said-allahu-akbar-stop-whitewashing-it/
LeftisruiningCanada says
Looking through that second link you posted there GI, the stabbing attack in the St Cloud shopping center seems to be a fairly good example of an obviously islamic inspired incident that fits the bill.
Although there was some fumbling around the edges when the FBI said it was “possibly terror related”, much later on they decided otherwise,
“In February 2017, Rick Thornton––the head of the FBI in Minneapolis––told the Associated Press that they were still investigating the attack, but that it was unlikely they could figure out Adan’s motives and thought process”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Cloud,_Minnesota_mall_stabbing
But the motivation is abundantly clear:
*Reports said the attacker made references to Allah, including shouting “Allahu Akbar”,[3] and asked several people if they were Muslim
*When the attacker asked Falconer if he was a Muslim and Falconer answered no, he fled into the Macy’s store, pursued by Falconer,”
*ABC 5 – Eyewitness News KSTP. Retrieved 28 December 2016. “Thornton said evidence uncovered by investigators suggests the attack was premeditated and that Adan may have become recently radicalized. Thornton said Adan took interest recently in Islam, withdrew from his friends and encouraged his sisters to be more religious.”
And yet, “his motivations remain unclear”?
Really?
gravenimage says
This is perhaps the second time in all the years he’s been here that Lebel has said that thwarting Jihad is actually a good thing–but only so that he can castigate those concerned over the frequent whitewash of Jihad terror by authorities. Bad, bad, dhimmis…
gravenimage says
French police thwart jihad attack on Paris swingers club, Muslims “planned to attack homosexuals”
……………….
Glad the French police were able to stop this attack. It could have been another Orlando.
Garfield says
Attention gays: leftists are not your friends.
I’m a conservative who believes in freedom. I choose to live pretty traditionally. I don’t hurt anyome. And I support your freedom to live your way if you don’t hurt anyone. Islam does not support your right to live how you choose to AT ALL.
Leftists and democrats who pander to and support Islam support your enemies! Vote them out. Arm yourselves. Stop believing the Clintons or obamas are on your side. They USE people, they don’t CARE about people.
The European says
“We also sent Lut (Lut being the Lot of the Bible, Abrahams nephew, Genesis 12,5): he said to his people: Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practise your lust on men in preference to women; ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.”, Qur’an 7, 80-81.
“Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, and leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are people transgressing (all Limits),” Qur’an 26, 165-166.
These qur’anic verses clearly state that homosexuality is an abominable sin, but do they also say that homosexuals must be put to death according to Islamic teachings?
Not explicitly, but if we read what the punishment of those who practised homosexuality had been, it becomes evident that homosexuality is punishable by death: “And we (meaning Allah) rained down on them a shower of brimstone: then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime,” Qur’an 7,84. Most Islamic scholars and jurists have inferred from qur’anic verses that homosexuality is an offence that must be punished by death, preferably by stoning.
And, of course, there are many hadiths which corroborate the Islamic docrine of punishing homosexuals with death.
“If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death,” Abu Dawud 4448.
“(Muhammad said) “Whoever is found conducting himself in the manner of the people of Lot, kill the doer and the receiver,” al-Timirdhi;Sunan 1,152.
Homosexuals are cursed by Allah and Muhammad, and they must be expelled.
“The Prophet cursed effiminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said: Turn them out of your houses. The Prophet turned out such-and.such man, and Umar turned out such-and-such woman.,” Sahih Bukhari, 72,774.
“May Allah curse him who does that what Lot’s people did,” Reliance of the Traveller, p.17.2
Lesbianism is considered adultery, and we know what kind of punishment is reserved for those who commit adultery.
“Lesbianism by women is adultery among them,” Sahih Tabarani
and ” Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity) of women is zina (illegitimate sexual intercourse).”
“Muhammad’s first successor Abu Bakr reportedly had a homosexual burned at the stake.The fourth calioh, Mohammad’s son-in-law Ali, ordered a sodomite thrown from the minaret of a mosque. Others he ordered to be stoned. One of the earliest and most authorative commentators on the Koran, Ibn Abbas (died 687) blended both approaches into a two-step execution in which the sodomite should be thrown from the highest building in the twon and then stoned, ” Serge Trifkovic.
The Fatwa Islamiyah also advocates the burning of the homosexual.
So, it is clear that Islamic law prescribes the death penalty for homosexuals, and a fatwa ( from the mainstream OnIslam.net) which has been issued in 2014 confirms this, saying: “The punishment for men or women who are unwilling to give up homosexuality and therefore are rejecting the guidance of Allah Most High is in fact death according to Islam.”
Lebel says
@LeftisruiningCanada
Thanks for those cases, lets look at the Edmonton case first:
1. I think this may not qualify because “Police initially referred to the attacks as “acts of terrorism” and said terrorism-related charges were pending, but those charges have not been laid.” – source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/accused-edmonton-attacker-alberta-hospital-1.4531884
So I don’t see a classic jihadwatch cover-up since Police actually called it terrorism. I actually think this is likely to be a terror attack but it may be that the police have not been able to make the case beyond a reasonable doubt. So main point, no conspiracy.
2. The evidence in the Fort Lauderdale shooting is negligible to me. Also no claim from any terror group for the attack and evidence found. I don’t see a cover up.
3. Milan stabbing. This one has the strongest links to religious extremism by far (the MO and the reference to Islam). He was deported from what I could find. I don’t see a coverup but I would agree on links with religious extremism.
LeftisruiningCanada says
For one, i’m not talking about a conspiracy or a cover up or anything like that.
I’m talking about not seeing islamic jihad for what it is – which is terrorism by it’s very definition, since islam is a 1400 year old political campaign to rule the world.
1: terror charges not laid. This is the most recent story i can find on it:
https://globalnews.ca/news/4082449/abdulahi-hasan-sharif-court-march-14/
Beyond reasonable doubt? Really? Isis flag in car!
2: How can you dismiss those facts as negligible? You can bet the same activity on some nazi forums and reading mien kampf wouldn’t get so easily written off.
3: But that’s the thing Lebel – It’s not just ‘religious extremism’. It is obviously terrorism, because the guy was connected to islam, one of the longest lived international political terrorist organizations in the world.