“‘Based on what we know so far, we have no information that the suspect in any way had a terrorist or Islamist motive,’ a police spokesman said.”
Very well, then. It is odd, however, that we never used to hear about these incidents in cathedrals, and now they’re fairly common — there was one in France just last week. This was Berlin’s main Protestant cathedral, so perhaps this 53-year-old “Austrian man” was just a disgruntled Roman Catholic. Or perhaps German authorities are once again trying to cover up jihad activity. In light of how intent German authorities are not to let news of jihad activity come out in a manner that makes it clear to the public what is going on, we may never know what really happened here.
Notice that “Hate Harms the Soul” is written outside the cathedral in German and English. Not in, say, Arabic. But it is unlikely that this attack was carried out by an anti-immigration Trump supporter.
“Police shoot knife-wielding man in Berlin Cathedral ‘rampage,’” Agence France-Presse, June 4, 2018:
German police shot and wounded an Austrian man “rampaging” at Berlin Cathedral on Sunday after he wielded a knife and was “verbally aggressive”, officials said.
“Shortly after 4pm police shot at a rampaging man at Berlin Cathedral,” police said in a tweet. “He was wounded in the leg.”
Officials said the man was 53 years old, but did not identify him. Armed officers were seen cordoning off the entrances to the landmark in the heart of the German capital.
“Based on what we know so far, we have no information that the suspect in any way had a terrorist or Islamist motive,” a police spokesman said.
It was not immediately clear whether anyone else was hurt in the incident at Berlin’s main Protestant cathedral, one of the city’s top tourist attractions….
Keys says
Doesn’ t the German media talk to the people who were in the church for more information ?
RichardL says
The German media is government run. There is actually a ban on reporting the ethnicity of criminals. That means the Austrian man was almost certainly a mohammedan.
Terry Gain says
What? And risk losing their job. To be othe safe side they would need the attacker own video yelling Alluha Akbar
nicu says
@Keys : Catholic Church is on Muslim side !!!
I was laughing out loud when they says ” an Austrian “
Terry Gain says
Attack in Cathedral. Police denials to follow,
Eur says
Too many kfirs in the West, the poor Muslims feel offended and their youth tempted towards bad life. They have no choice but to kill us all. We must understand their point of view. Certainly Islam is the backbone of a society of peace, we only have to die or be a submissive minority to live in peace under the Islamic yoke. Why is it so hard to understand? Islam is synonymous with peace, we must accept our destiny which is none other than conversion, submission to Islamic authority or death.
Aussiemate says
Why aren’t the youth, home in ‘arabia’ fighting For their country…. like our men are!,
Lebel says
“we may never know what really happened here”
Yup, it’s like the attack in Toronto. Authorities all over the west conspiring to hide the jihad.
Ecosse1314 says
Well at least Lebal you are not denying the other attacks this week committed by you co-religouus.
As an aside would you be so good as to tell us who wrote the Koran?
Lebel says
I have never denied attacks when it is clear they are terrorist attacks. People went crazy before Islam, people shot up schools before Islam. RS is creating a world where jihadwatch readers expect that all violence in the world is islamic and sourced in Islam. When there is no evidence, it’s simply a conspiracy.
Ecosse1314 says
Yet only a few in the here and now are doing it in the name of their religion. Do you deny that. Do you deny that the vast majority of these are muslims. You may not be a muslim but you are an enabler.
Wellington says
You deceive again, Lebel. Robert Spencer has never even remotely said or implied that, per your words, “all violence in the world is islamic {sic} and sourced in Islam.” Nor do regular commenters here at JW, for instance me, believe this. You again and again set up a strawman and then knock it down. Very cheap of you, you know.
What RS has said is that a great deal of violence in the world can be attributed to Islam. HUGE DIFFERENCE, as I have pointed out to you on previous threads and yet you deceitfully have ignored this point and go on and on and on and on about RS and JW asserting that all violence in the world is due to Islam. In fact, your assertion here and many previous times about RS and JW is so risible that I hope you keep posting such mendacity because for all people capable of thinking for themselves (apparently and sadly a diminishing lot in the West, which Islam can only profit by since informed human beings are able, up-front like, to comprehend that Islam is the worst major religion ever developed by man), they will immediately recognize your deceitfulness. Always, you know, it is a good thing when deceit is detected. And thus, verily and so on, you need to be detected a lot, regularly and so on.
As for “creating a world,” your words exactly, I would aver that Islam has created a terrible world which is retrogressive, self-pitying, self-exculpating, non-productive, parasitic, misogynistic, and, in general, an effing pain in the ass to mankind.
Your turn, Lebel, if you care. But do try an experiment with yourself if you do, i.e., attempting an honest statement for a change. Give it a shot.
gravenimage says
The dishonest Lebel wrote:
RS is creating a world where jihadwatch readers expect that all violence in the world is islamic and sourced in Islam.
……………………
What absolute crap. Robert Spencer never made any such claims.
He simply notes that “we never used to hear about these incidents in cathedrals, and now they’re fairly common…”.
Can Lebel refute this? Of course not. He just likes to pretend that it was Jihad Watch that made up those 33,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11.
J D S says
Satan is actually the cause of evil in the world and of course he uses people to do in his evil web. MUslims have been caught in this web since he spoke to muhammad (if he ever actually ever existed) in that dark cave…..making him think he was from an angel from God. Proving muhammad was easy sorry for Satan Is easy….The one and only true GOd would not require of us what muhammad portrays……Jesus, the final covenant with us, wiped out any requirements for the atrocious acts portrayed in Islam.
CogitoErgoSum says
The man is not dead. It seems like they could at least ask him why he did it. I’d like to hear what he thinks his reason was.
boakai ngombu says
if the Berlin cathedral menioned is that of the Protestants, perhaps, during the afternoon organ recital, he heard a klinku off the fourth rank during a fugue, and that tipped the balance, his islamic impulse kicked in and he just had to comment
boakai ngombu says
excuse … mentioned …
Lebel says
according to RS, there is a conspiracy afoot so any info you get is sure to be tainted (unless it confirms that he’s a Muslim and it was jihad)
DHazard says
The fact that there isn’t enough information released by the police to really know what happened generally means that a Muslim was involved. Denial happens in stages. The first stage is to just hide or withhold relevant information. Next is the “not all Muslims” stage.
Patrick says
Where it is a ‘man’ or ‘mentally I’ll Norwegian’s (a Somali in that case I think), where details are kept sketchy, a Moslem is to be suspected.
Beagle says
Unless a jihadist is carrying an ISIS, Boko, AQ, etc., ID card and talking to someone overseas on a satellite phone as he conducts the attack, many LE organizations will say it’s not terror related.
It’s transparent propaganda. But it fools enough PC rubes to be used repeatedly. They’re still in denial fard ayn jihad is a thing, 20 years after Bin Laden’s fatwa, almost 4 after the IS version.
somehistory says
If a member of the church went off his rocker and caused such, he would be identified as a member of the church. And the “reason” would be given, or at least, surmised.
If a husband or other family member of a member of the church did this, he would be identified. The reason for the attack would be made known soon after.
Since no information is given, and it is said not to be terrorism or due to islam….it is more than likely he is moslim and the reason is islam has told him to and he obeyed the command to kill and destroy. That he was not successful changes nothing.
“verbally aggressive”….could it be he was proclaiming the “greater” fallacy of his cult?
j_not_a says
Just another upside down right is wrong and left is right and night is day in murkill’s islamic paradise (formerly Germany).
Ole Pederson says
“German man”, “Austrian man”, “mentally disturbed” etc are just whitewash words.
Same as: every attack on anything Jewish is automatically without further investigation treated by the police as right-wing extremist i.e. Nazi attack UNLESS there is indication of muslim background that cannot be kept quiet about.
FYI says
Can you imagine what pope francis would say about this?
“..and what about all those rampaging hordes of terrible catholics who never stop attacking those peace-loving muslims in their mosques…huh?..catholics are terrible too..”
Lebel says
@wellington
You are free to believe any nonsense you want. I think it’s highly deceitful to insinuate that the German authorities along with the German media are part of a vast conspiracy (involving nearly all Western elites, authorities and media) to hide the identity of Muslims when they are involved in incidents such as these. The fact that you accept the ludicrous idea that incidents like these “didn’t happen before” without flinching only reinforces my stance. RS acts as if crazy people did not exist before. Of course things like this happened before, we just did not hear about them but we were monitoring world news looking for potential “Muslim” incidents. In short, this is a nuthouse.
unrelated here is the video from the attack: https://deutsch.rt.com/kurzclips/70891-mann-mit-messer-angeschossen-video/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=push_notifications&utm_campaign=push_notifications#.WxUKFsdM7bI.facebook