This over-the-top reaction to a harmless act epitomizes the fear and anxiety that characterizes relations between men and women under Sharia, and that leads to all sorts of pathologies.
“Hugging someone of opposite gender forbidden in Islam: UP imam,” by Nazar Abbas, TNN, June 23, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
MORADABAD: The district imam has pronounced as “illegal and un-Islamic” the act an unidentified girl hugging youths outside a shopping mall in Moradabad on the eve of Eid. A video of the girl hugging youths was widely shared on social networking sites. The girl hugged almost 50 youths who waited in a queue for their turn.
Traditionally, in Muslim society, women and girls are not permitted to hug or make any physical contact with male strangers, regardless of whether it is a festive occasion or not.
After facing flak for her act, the girl who had uploaded the video on YouTube apologized through social media.
The cleric also criticized the youths who hugged the girl and said they too violated Sharia laws.
Timothy says
Muhammad was a jealous pedophile.
Clive Stephen Delmonte says
Do you think the local Muslim population has thought of sending this imam on his way ?
gravenimage says
I *really* doubt it. Most of them no doubt agree with him.
BC says
Personally I dislike hugging as it was never a ‘custom’ in my childhood. Aunties might hug children but that was about it. People do not realise it is something quite recent about 25 years I would guess. Of course like everything else its origins are in USA and spread by the media, so now everybody has to hug to be in fashion even complete strangers at least on TV. People are so like sheep
Shaking hands has been and is OK although even that spreads bacteria. Note how few men for example wash their hands in public bathrooms
gravenimage says
Well, sure. I can understand your not liking hugging–I know quite a few people who are not fond of it, either.
I doubt whether you would want it declared illegal, though.
And consider what Islam does to women who touch unrelated men–they can be flogged or stoned. I think that is a much nastier prospect that being hugged by a stranger.
J D S says
Hugging illegal.. What can I say…Stupidity breeds stupidity and in Islam there Is an abundance of …”breeding”
JawsV says
No hugs in Islam!
Eur says
sad people.
JawsV says
Sad and pathetic they believe Muhammad’s cr** in the 21st century. Obvious lies and fabrications. Mo was a con man. Islam’s the biggest con in history.
tim gallagher says
Spot on, JawsV. Islam is so unbelievably sick and, as you say, pathetic that there are actually people in the 21st century with such primitive and sick ways of behaving. Then again, they are really living in the 7th century, which they’ve never left, while the non-Muslim world has progressed. As you say, Eur, it’s such a sad way they view life.
gravenimage says
There is no love or fellowship in Islam.
mgoldberg says
The notions of ‘forbidden’ versus ‘frowned upon should be noted.
Forbidden, means, the forbidder and all can impose upon those doing such things,
whereas, the ‘frowned upon’ means that it requires examination and discussion what is seen as
being frowned upon.
As an example, I tend to ‘frown upon’ Imams with their totalitarian dictates that are a door for
murderous vengeful minds to perform horrible acts of sanctified retribution.
I would be hard pressed, therefore not to be a forbidder of any sharia laws being applied to either directly or indirectly upon non muslims.
Elrond says
Yeah-God says men hugging women is not permitted or vice versa from a coward with rampant sexual appetites for small boys , anyone spot the irony ? Hugging , shaking hands increases oxytocin bringing huge health benefits. In other words , its Gods design. Mohammed is basically calling God a pervert by forbidding different genders to have contact , well takes one to know one so…..
gravenimage says
He was fine when contact between the genders involved deflowering little girls and raping Infidel women and keeping them as sex slaves.
But hugging? Completely Haram!
Elrond says
Hugging , shaking hands increases oxytocin bringing huge health benefits. In other words , its Gods design. Mohammed is basically calling God a pervert by forbidding different genders to have contact , well takes one to know one so…..
Alan Kornman says
We had a similar experience on the Temple Mount a little over a month. Billy and Karen Vaughn were on the Temple Mount hugging for a picture with a group of friends.
Billy and Karen are married but that didn’t seem to matter to the Islamic Waqf that was given managerial authority over the Temple Mount by the Israelis back in 1967.
Robert Spencer is right that this fear of opposite sexes touching in public is a pathology that also applies to non-Muslims as well.
We caught this interaction on film even though the same Waqf security guy told me no filming. In this video you will see two other pathologies unique to the Temple Mount. A riot broke out because a few Jews dared to pray on the mount and then we saw what is a garbage dump smack dab on the Southeastern corner just a stones throw from the Al Aqsa Mosque.
And that is just another day on the Temple Mount. Thanks for posting this story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmVaAe9LLzc
gravenimage says
Thanks for the link, Alan.
CogitoErgoSum says
Hugging a woman and raping her are closely connected in the minds of the followers of Islam.
Giacomo Latta says
All women not under the thumb of their father or their husband are slave, thus rape, material. That is because men are in charge of women, sayeth the koran. Thus, treating women like equals to men is unacceptable. Men hugging men? Thoroughly OK. Men hugging women? Not OK. Men raping women? Thoroughly OK!
Jill Workman says
1400 years of inbreeding has taken its toll on these savages. They need to be isolated & eventually eliminated.
JawsV says
Shipped to another planet like the aliens they are.
Rarely says
A man needs to keep his hands free in case a cute goat or sheep comes along. Women have no right to try to replace barnyard animals. It’s un-islamic.
DHazard says
Sex with nine year old good. Hugging adult woman bad. Why? Because Quran.
Wellington says
Let’s see here: A woman hugging a man here on Earth is “illegal and un-Islamic” but in the excessively childlike and downright stupid vision of the afterlife, per Islamthink, Muslim men get 72 virgins as well as “pearly boys.”
Oh please, humanity, have no more respect for this horrendous excuse for a religion and just laugh it out of existence.
To all Muslims: To the extent you think Islam the true religion, to that extent you are a fool. May your Allah strike me dead tonight if I’m wrong about this.
Be back soon. Count on it, Muzzies, because your religion is ridiculous—there is no Allah, Mo was a brutal control-freak and a pervert, and the Koran is the worst excuse for a religious work of all time.
Islam makes me sick. So does anyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, who continues to defend this silly, exceedingly risible though, sadly, often deadly excuse for a major religion. Indeed, take the fear away that Islam MUST use in order to survive and it would, a la Gene Wilder in the film, Young Frankenstein, “collapse like a bunch of broccoli.” A beautiful thought to be sure.
Arnold Jackson says
Anything good is forbidden.
Par for the Islam course.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Yes, Sharia is a code of conduct regulating the behavior of a Muslim. As such any infraction of Sharia is a sin and immoral. we like sharia for an ideal society, not morally bankrupt society like mithraist christian west .
Wellington says
I agree with you, Ibrahim, that “Sharia is a code of conduct,” but it is a exceedingly faulty, foolish, repressive and malevolent code of conduct because, among other reasons: 1) it does not allow for full equality between men and women; 2) it condones death for apostasy; 3) it sanctions the rape of non-Muslim women who do not “cover” themselves—hey, even a glimpse of stocking is something shocking as well as punishable, eh, Ibrahim?; 4) it prescribes severe bodily punishment or death for anyone who dares criticize or mock Islam, the Koran or Mohammed; and 5) in general, it poses as a complete enemy of liberty, just as every totalitarian ideology does, other examples being Nazism and Marxism.
As ever I remain, Ibrahim
Mithraistically (whatever the hell this means), agnostically, skeptically, Zionistically, incorrigibly and conservatively yours,
Wellington
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
welligton, Satan god has dominated your thoughts and as such You cannot cherish the beauty of sharia in creating ideal society free from vices like anus sex with kids by mithraist christian priests and disvirgining your daughters to prepare them for indiscriminate sex like beasts. Remember,according stated reported by AP, over 95% of American married couples have sex outside marriage and more than 98% of girls experience sex even before puberty. you, therefore,need a mechanism like sharia to eradicate these vices. But Wellington and his like hate that, because their hearts have been corrupted by the Satan (Holy Spirit) the promoter of all evils
Wellington says
You’re eminently correct, Ibrahim, that I cannot “cherish the beauty of sharia…” Here’s why where sexual matters are concerned: Forced virtue is sham virtue and that is the kind of “virtue” Islam has. Only if one is completely free to be virtuous or not, without fear of punishment, can true virtue exist. This is why virtue in the Islamic world is a farce. It is also a farce because of other things, for instance the sanctioning of the rape of non-Muslim women who don’t cover themselves, placing the onus for sexual virtue almost exclusively upon the female and, in addition, the hypocrisy, never mind the childlike aspect to it, of the Islamic afterlife where 72 virgins and “pearly boys” await Muslim men.
Islam is a joke for many reasons, Ibarhim. It’s stance on sexuality is one such reason. And no way 95% of American married couples have sex outside of marriage. I could believe 50% or so (probably not even this high) but 95% is a ridiculous figure, regardless of what any poll says. Don’t forget, the polls said that Hillary Clinton was going to beat Donald Trump in a landslide.
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
welligton (sic), Satan god has dominated your thoughts and as such You cannot cherish the beauty of sharia in creating ideal society
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We all know what the “beauty” of Shari’ah consists of–amputating the limbs of petty thieves, flogging anyone who takes a sip of beer, stoning rape victims to death by ravening mobs, and murdering anyone who dares call this barbaric.
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free from vices like anus sex with kids by mithraist christian priests and disvirgining your daughters to prepare them for indiscriminate sex like beasts.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed has many times claimed that the Bible teaches Christian clerics to rape children and for parents to deflower their daughters.
Of course, there are no such verses in the Bible. I and others have challenged him scores of times to produce such verses–of course, he cannot.
The fact is abusing children is *illegal* in the civilized West.
Not so in most of Dar-al-Islam. Ibrahim itace muhammed himself says that girls *no matter how young* can be “married” off to Muslim pedophiles. But this should not surprise–after all, the “Prophet” Muhammed “married” a child at six, and began raping her at nine.
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Remember,according stated reported by AP, over 95% of American married couples have sex outside marriage and more than 98% of girls experience sex even before puberty.
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Of course, this is utter rot–nowhere does the Associated Press say that 95% of married couples cheat, nor is there any report on 98% of girls having sex before puberty.
In fact, the average age of first sexual intercourse in the United States is around 18 for males and around 17 for females. This is hardly prepubescent.
But Ibrahim itace muhmmed has shown his confusion over puberty before, having claimed that six-year-old children are adolescents. Really, this sort of ignorance is sad, and quite dangerous.
Just 14% of married couples report extramarital sex. And his spouting this stupidity towards people like Wellington and myself is especially absurd–both of us are in long, loving marriages–his over thirty years, I believe, and my husband and I will be celebrating our thirtieth anniversary later this year–and we have always been faithful to our spouses.
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you, therefore,need a mechanism like sharia to eradicate these vices. But Wellington and his like hate that, because their hearts have been corrupted by the Satan (Holy Spirit) the promoter of all evils
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Note that these “mechanisms” include loveless polygamy invoving up to four women and little girls at a time; summary divorce for men only, and endless ability for them to remarry; for them to beat and “Honor Kill” wives who may as much as speak to an unrelated male, let alone hug anyone; for them to rape Infidel women in Jihad, and for them to keep as many sex slaves as they can get their hands on.
The idea that bigamy, pedophilia, abandoning women, wife beating, murder, rape, and slavery *prevent* vices is insane–instead, they *are* vices.
And they are evils. *This* is the “ideal society” Muslim thugs like Ibrahim itace muhammed want to impose on us. And he holds that opposing such evil is “the Satan”. *This* is how pious Muslims think.
gravenimage says
Fine posts, Wellington.
Wellington says
Thank you, gravenimage. You know, shortly after I wrote to Ibby that I could possibly believe some 50% of American spouses cheat, I realized that was in and of itself way too high.
Instructive how all the over-the-top nonsense Muzzies like Ibby spout, such as 95% of American spouses are cheaters, makes you “inclined” at some level of the sub-conscious to meet them with just a semi-rational argument, a half-way kind of argument, such as I did with the 50% figure. Yes, I know it’s far lower than this and I should not have allowed a semi-argument to interfere with a true argument. Oh yeah, Islam pulls you down at times without you even knowing it. No excuses here. My bad, not Ibby’s.
And best to you and your husband (of half-Polish descent like I am if I remember correctly) on your 30th. For the record, my wife and I will celebrate our 19th year of marriage come this Fall. Not as long as you and your husband’s, but still not bad at all, still worthy of celebration.
For the record, I married a wonderful, immensely talented and overall great human being who is over twenty years my junior. I love her with all my heart and even the thought of cheating on her fills me with contempt. She is not only my wife but my best buddy of all time. Somehow, I don’t think Ibrahim will get this—or understand this. He misses so much and distorts so much after all.
Percentage wise, which is where all this started with Ibrahim’s ridiculous 95% figure, I have to wonder how many Muslim men look upon their spouse (spouses) as their best friend and, what is far more important, as their complete equal if not their superior? I would guess it a very low figure, if indeed existent at all—and thus this serves as another commentary on how distorted Islam truly is. Islam is bad news for equality between the sexes and one knows this or should know it. Can there be any doubt?
Take care, my friend. Yes, take good care.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the reply, Wellington.
Thank you, gravenimage. You know, shortly after I wrote to Ibby that I could possibly believe some 50% of American spouses cheat, I realized that was in and of itself way too high.
Instructive how all the over-the-top nonsense Muzzies like Ibby spout, such as 95% of American spouses are cheaters, makes you “inclined” at some level of the sub-conscious to meet them with just a semi-rational argument, a half-way kind of argument, such as I did with the 50% figure. Yes, I know it’s far lower than this and I should not have allowed a semi-argument to interfere with a true argument. Oh yeah, Islam pulls you down at times without you even knowing it. No excuses here. My bad, not Ibby’s.
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Actually, I understand this, Wellington. I think this is part of what trolls like Ibrahim itace muhammed are trying to do. This is part of their trying to instill unearned guilt in Westerners.
Here’s one article:
“Adultery Survey Finds ‘I Do’ Means ‘I Do'”
https://www.nytimes.com/1993/10/19/us/adultery-survey-finds-i-do-means-i-do.html
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And best to you and your husband (of half-Polish descent like I am if I remember correctly) on your 30th. For the record, my wife and I will celebrate our 19th year of marriage come this Fall. Not as long as you and your husband’s, but still not bad at all, still worthy of celebration.
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Sorry I was off, Wellington. I know that both Dumbledore’s Army and Champ have been married for over 30 years.
Almost twenty years is certainly a long marriage, as well! Robert Spencer and his wife have also been married for many years.
And yes–my husband is half German-Polish (quite common if sometimes historically fraught) and half English-Irish (also fraught at times…).
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For the record, I married a wonderful, immensely talented and overall great human being who is over twenty years my junior. I love her with all my heart and even the thought of cheating on her fills me with contempt. She is not only my wife but my best buddy of all time. Somehow, I don’t think Ibrahim will get this—or understand this. He misses so much and distorts so much after all.
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Wonderful, Wellington. I have also been very lucky to meet and marry my loving, brilliant, and talented husband, and would never be unfaithful to him.
Sickeningly, Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that those who marry for love should be killed. *Ugh*.
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Percentage wise, which is where all this started with Ibrahim’s ridiculous 95% figure, I have to wonder how many Muslim men look upon their spouse (spouses) as their best friend and, what is far more important, as their complete equal if not their superior? I would guess it a very low figure, if indeed existent at all—and thus this serves as another commentary on how distorted Islam truly is. Islam is bad news for equality between the sexes and one knows this or should know it. Can there be any doubt?
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I’m sure that there are a few Muslims who regard their spouses as their best friends–but this goes against everything that Islam stands for, so they are being lax Muslims. I don’t imagine this is very common.
And I take your point with the reference to “spouses”–I cannot imagine that any Muslims practicing polygamy can have loving and equal relationships with multiple wives. While not the most horrific aspect of the Islamic treatment of women–that would be FGM, child marriage, forced marriage, wife beating, stoning, and “Honor Killings”–polygamy still kills love.
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Take care, my friend. Yes, take good care.
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You as well, Wellington. Always great to correspond with you. Hello to your wife.
gravenimage says
Hugging others is “morally bankrupt”–but Muslims “marrying” little girls and raping Infidel women and keeping them as sex slaves is perfectly “chaste” in Islam.
Islamic “morals” in action…
And how would he enforce this? He probably wants to see this woman murdered.
FYI says
“Oh ye who believe!Take not the Jews and Christians for friends”
koran 5 v 51
That is allah the deceiver’s advice to his muslims:there really is no LOVE in islam.
There is no love of neighbor or genuine love of God.
allah, “the best of deceivers” k3:54:allah the god who admits to bearing FALSE WITNESS.
allah who CURSES Jews and Christians k9:30.
Their are 2 chief Commandments,found in Christianity and Judaism but of course they are completely missing in allah’s cult of hatred.
allah(who must NOT be confused with the true Biblical God of Love}is a loveless,antisocial god.
Just like his self-appointed psychopathic “prophet” who,like allah,admitted to being a deceiver in al tabari 6:111
a false god who admits to being a fake k3:54.
a false prophet who admits to being a fraud al tabari 6:111
How strange that muslims can’t figure it out!
abu taleb says
No hugging women, except if you want to molest them. What a true teaching of Islam.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Steve's nephew says
To a western/Christian person who sees morality as unconditional, this young woman’s behavior is no big deal. But to a Muslim, who sees morality as conditional, they can’t handle the situation.
When I label Muslim’s views of morality as “conditional” I mean that they believe it is acceptable to rape or abuse a woman who exposes too much skin or one who is too friendly. They believe a woman is protected against rape and aggression only when her head is covered and see is as non-provocative as she can possibly be. Westerners (all non-Muslims) believe rape and abuse is NEVER acceptable.
IanB says
Islamic immoral insanity:
Girl hugging her male friends – HARAM.
Pakistani moslems gang raping infidel girl – HALAL.
Hogdude says
How does one say anal sphincter in their language?
WPM says
anal sphincter=Mohammed
may piss rain on him in hell
master of lies
leader of fools
MFritz says
No oppressive ideology likes happy women and children. And the concept of love (or showing it) is considered “subversive” to them anyway.
gravenimage says
*So* true, MFritz.
Gjallarhornet says
Islam:
Women Hugging = Bad Men chopping of heads and hands = Good
A woman giving a hug =Bad A man raping infidels = Good
Being nice to or friend with a kuffar =Bad Slavery and honor killings = Good
A man having several wives and beating them: Normal A woman not virgin when marrying: Abnormal.
Jugde for yourself, folks.
terry says
I’m surprised they weren’t beat to death on the spot.