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On Day 25 of “Islamicize Me,” the gang’s dhimmi decides to become a Muslim, and the gang figures out a way to deal with the infamous Robert Spencer!
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Burnerjack says
So, what’s the penalty should the Dhimmi come to his senses and wants to leave Islam?
Oooo! Somebody should have explained the rules of membership to him before he signed his soul away.
“Mohammed” or Mr. Scratch”? Same thing.
Linda says
The dhimmi is supposed to pay the jizyah as though Islam is some protection racket, but even when he wants to convert, he gets the short end of the stick because they want him to kill someone so he’ll be on the hook for murder. He can’t win either way.
gravenimage says
Yep.
WPM says
That’s Islam heads they win, tales you lose! The coin toss with the devil.
WPM says
Islam the coin toss with the devil , heads they win tales you lose!
Nour says
I don’t think you understand the meaning of Dhimmi in Arabic. I will let you search.
Muslims didn’t invent the religious taxes. fiscus Judaicus was a tax-collecting agency instituted to collect the taxi mposed on Jews in the Roman Empire after the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in AD 70.
According to all historical sources including Sir Thomas Arnold and Adam Mitz, unlike the Roman tax, the Jizya was not collected from non-muslim women, children, the elderly, the unemployed man, the sick or the monks.
It was only collected from sane employed males who chose not to serve in the Muslim army. So by all means it was not a punishment for not accepting Islam.
The Jizya was cancelled by the Ottoman Empire in 1850. And no Muslim country collects Jizya today
Eur says
The fact that right now no Muslim country demands the yizia is because at the end of the 19th century the European colonial powers pushed for the Islamic authorities to stop demanding that mafia tax. In Morocco for example (it is the closest Islamic country and the one I know the most) they did not stop demanding the yizia until France took control of the country. Do not you realize that the dates coincide? During the entire period that lasted and in all the territories that dominated Islam in the Iberian Peninsula Christians and Jews had to pay the yizia. Muslims payed the zakat and if someone did not pay the authority insisted that he should pay it. If a dhimmi did not pay the yizia the consequence was death. The Islamic authority was in charge of fixing the amount corresponding to the jizia, normally it was a percentage on the harvest or on the annual sales. For many this mafious tax was unbearable and there were only two options, flee to the north leaving all their possessions or convert to Islam. Muslims do not consider that they have invented yizia, simply because is something that Islam dictates and … is Alah’s word. I refuse to pay tithes to the Catholic Church and I refuse to pay the yizia to the Muslims. Fuck you, Islamic fascists.
gravenimage says
The repulsive apologist for Islamic savagery Nour wrote:
I don’t think you understand the meaning of Dhimmi in Arabic. I will let you search.
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Of course we know what dhimmitude is. Nour wants just this threatened second class citizenship for all of us Infidels.
More:
Muslims didn’t invent the religious taxes. fiscus Judaicus was a tax-collecting agency instituted to collect the taxi mposed on Jews in the Roman Empire after the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple in AD 70.
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Islam didn’t invent rape or slavery, either–but they are enthusiastic champions of them. How does this make Islamic oppression of non-Muslims any better?
More:
According to all historical sources including Sir Thomas Arnold and Adam Mitz, unlike the Roman tax, the Jizya was not collected from non-muslim women, children, the elderly, the unemployed man, the sick or the monks.
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It was levied on the whole community, and the whole community of Infidels suffered if the Jizya was not paid.
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It was only collected from sane employed males who chose not to serve in the Muslim army. So by all means it was not a punishment for not accepting Islam.
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“Chose not to serve”–generally, Infidels were prevented from serving in the military in Muslim states–so this was indeed a punishment for not converting to Islam.
More:
The Jizya was cancelled by the Ottoman Empire in 1850. And no Muslim country collects Jizya today
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The Ottoman Empire ended Jizya on paper in 1856–a tax specifically for being non-Muslim–but then substituted a tax called Baddal-Askari, because Infidels could not serve in the military. Same difference.
And many other Muslim nations imposed Jizya as well–the Persian empire until 1886, places like Morroco until the early 20th century.
As Eur notes, ending this was under pressure from the Infidel West.
Nour also does not mention that the Ottoman Empire responded to not being able to fully oppress their Kuffar population any more by simply slaughtering most of them. The Armenian Genocide really targeted *all* Christians–Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, Levantines. There is just a tiny remnant of Christians surviving in Turkey today.
And Nour’s implication that this is simply a thing of the past is quite false–the Taliban has imposed Jizya on Sikhs, and the Islamic State on Yezidis and Christians.
And it is not just Jihadi groups–Muslim scholars like the late Abul A’la Maududi, of Pakistan, said that Jizya should be re-imposed on non-Muslims in a Muslim nation.
And he is no outlier–Al Azhar agrees, and it is the most revered orthodox seat of Sunni learning:
“Al Azhar Scholar: Christian Copts Will Pay Jizya”
http://raymondibrahim.com/2013/03/06/al-azhar-scholar-christian-copts-will-pay-jizya/
He argues that it is “protection” money, preventing Muslims from slaulationughtering Infidel populations. This is, indeed, its main purpose historically. *Ugh*.
Billy Chickens says
Nour,
You don’t possibly believe that we believe any of your comment, do you? But on the other hand, maybe all the young muslim “refugee” males with IPhones are escaping the Maghreb so they don’t have to pay the jizya for not serving in the muslim army.
Eur says
Only Muslims could carry weapons. The dhimmis did not have that privilege of being able to defend themselves. In the Middle Ages serving in the army was not only an honor, it was having a superior status over farmers, artisan ranchers …. The Muslims in their holy books make it clear that non-Muslims can only belong to the primary sector .. . workforce.
gravenimage says
So true, Eur.
Billy Chickens says
Who is James White? Never heard of him, but he seems to think the “Islamicize Me” videos are not the Christian way to evangelize. He must have zero sense of humor, and no tangible grasp of Islam. Or perhaps he has a streak of goody-goody running through him thinking he’s oh so much holier than David, Jon and Vocab.
Jealousy does strange things to a person. He’s jealous that “Islamicize Me” is highly successful, and possibly that he was not part of it. Who is he anyway?
PS. I love the Magic Backpack.
gravenimage says
James White is a supposed Christian–but hangs out with apologists for Jihad and claims that Islam is not violent. I don’t usually cross post, but these are my comments on that story re White:
James White has said that Yasir Qadhi is a “kindred spirit” and calls him his “mentor”–even though Qadhi has worked with thr Muslim Brotherhood and has defended Jihadists like Sami al Arian and “American Taliban” John Walker Lindh. In addition to the usual–denigrating Christianity–he has also preached that Christians are filthy and that their property and lives can rightly be taken in Jiha .
White has never disagreed with anything that Qadhi has said. No wonder he is incensed over Christians mocking the savagery of Islam.
Here’s more on James White,pretending that Islam is not violent:
“Audio: Robert Spencer debates James White on violence in Islam”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/06/audio-robert-spencer-debates-james-white-on-violence-in-islam
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Linda, you don’t even know what is dhimmi. The root comes from dhimma, which means burden or responsibility. It is the responsibility of Islamic State to protect dhimmis against all harms and provide them with social security like any other Citizen. It is only those who are rich that pay jizya for them to contribute to the development of the state as social responsibility in the same way muslims pay zakat. It is not a means of humiliating them as some ignorant idiots mistranslate and misinterprete the term “wa humum saghiruun “in the Quran to mean to humiliate them or oppress them. it simply means for them to be subordinate or obedients to Islamic State. The Holy Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated in Hadith Qudsi that whoever (a leader or other subjects) oppresses dhimmi has declared war against Allah. In reality history has reported that all good Muslim leaders treated dhimmis well to avoid wrath of Allah. In fact it was such good treatment that encouraged many non-muslims to embrace Islam.
eduardo odraude says
I watched the second or third one and then didn’t pursue it, but I just saw this 25th one and found it pretty darn funny.