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Muslim cleric: “We never fought peoples. Whoever says that we conquered in order to collect the jizya tax is lying.”

Jun 26, 2018 2:00 pm By Robert Spencer

Everything this sheikh says is a lie, and you can see here how these lies are used in order to advance a contemporary political agenda. In my new book The History of Jihad, I show that many, many times Muslims conquered people in order to collect the jizya. Nor did the Byzantines attack the Muslims first. And the Armenian Genocide is most certainly not a lie. As I show in the book, on August 18, 1894, the Ottoman authorities began a massacre of Armenians in the Sassoun region of eastern Asia Minor that lasted a full twenty-four days, until September 10. British vice consul Cecil M. Hallward investigated the massacre and reported to the British crown that “a large majority of the population of some twenty-five villages perished, and some of the villages were unusually large for this country.” At Geliguzan, “a number of young men were bound hand and foot, laid out in a row, had brushwood piled on them, and were burned alive.” And “many other disgusting barbarities are said to have been committed, such as ripping open pregnant women, tearing children to pieces by main force.” At yet another Armenian village, “some sixty young women and girls were driven into a church, where some soldiers were ordered to do as they liked with them and afterwards kill them, which order was carried out.” Hallward noted that he collected these details largely from “soldiers who took part in the massacre.”

“Egyptian Cleric Sheikh Sharif Abadi: The Armenian Genocide Is a Lie Fabricated by the British, the Muslims Never Perpetrated a Racial Massacre,” MEMRI, May 28, 2018:

Egyptian cleric Sheikh Sharif Abadi said that throughout history, the Muslims never fought peoples, never conquered in order to collect the jizya poll tax, never forced people to convert to Islam, and never perpetrated a racial massacre. According to Sheikh Abadi, the Armenian massacre was “a lie fabricated by the British in order to topple the Ottoman Caliphate.” He further said that when the Jews were banished from England, they came to the Ottoman Empire. “If we really wanted to kill them all, we would have done it then,” he said. The interview with Sheikh Abadi aired on May 28 on the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Watan TV channel, which broadcasts from Turkey.

Sharif Abadi: “The Muslims have refrained from doing three things that all the other nations did.”

Interviewer: “The Muslims did not do those things, but all the other nations did?”

Sharif Abadi: “All the nations did it, except for us.”

Interviewer: “What are these things?”

Sharif Abadi: “First of all, we never fought peoples. Whoever says that we conquered in order to collect the jizya poll tax is lying. We have never fought any people.

[…]

“Who started the fight? Us or the Byzantines? In Mu’tah [629 CE], who started the fight?”

Interviewer: “The Byzantines or the Persians?”

Sharif Abadi: “It was the Byzantines who started the fight in the Battle of Mu’tah.

[…]

“When we fought the Byzantines, we fought their emperor.”

Interviewer: “Right.”

Sharif Abadi: “When the emperor fell, did we fight the people or did we let them be? We fought the emperor and his brutal soldiers, but did we force people [to convert] after we won?

[…]

“The second thing is that we have never perpetrated a racial massacre. We have never laid siege on a certain group and kill, let’s say, all the Jews.”

Interviewer: “So why do people say that the Ottoman Caliphate perpetrated a massacre against the Armenians?”

Sharif Abadi: “It is a lie.”

Interviewer: “Why?”

Sharif Abadi: “The Armenians are the ones who betrayed [the Ottomans]. There is a historical story behind it, but [the massacre] never happened. It is a lie fabricated by the British in order to topple the Ottoman Caliphate. Are you saying that we had refrained from perpetrating racial massacres for 14 centuries, just to carry one out in the final two years of the Caliphate? Does this even make sense? It’s a lie. There was no racial massacre of the Armenians. They are the ones who started it. They are the ones who betrayed us. They are the ones who killed Muslims and burned mosques.

[…]

“When the Jews found themselves under pressure in Europe, and England prevented them from entering London for 350 years…”

Interviewer: “So where did they live?”

Sharif Abadi: “They came to us, to the Ottoman Empire. If we really wanted to kill them all, we would have done it then, right? Have we ever massacred Christians? Have we ever massacred the Amazigh, the Berbers, anyone? We have never perpetrated a racial massacre or killed women and children.

[…]

“The third thing is that we have never forced anyone to convert to Islam.”

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  1. St. Manuel II Palailogos says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 2:01 pm

    They can never take responsibility.

    • john spielman says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 2:45 pm

      50–200 Millions of dead Hindus who were slaughtered in the muslim conquest of the Indian sub continent would disagree with sheik Abadi and argue that islam IS violent and jihad IS REAL!

    • DHazard says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 5:43 pm

      If it isn’t videotaped the creepier Muslims won’t even admit their presence at a crime. These are the Muslims who would NEVER turn in somebody on the verge of committing mass murder. If they commit the mass murder it is NEVER a martyrdom by kaffir arrangement.. They want to live so they can keep on whining and blaming Jews, white people, “other” Muslims, Christians, Hindus, +289 more religions.

    • J D S says

      Jun 27, 2018 at 9:37 am

      Lying by Muslims just comes natural..History can disprove most everything this uninformed rascal is saying in this interview.
      Apparently he has never read the Koran or hadath or other writings and teachings in islam and he sure knows not much of history.

  2. elee says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 2:03 pm

    Lies at the heart of the cult

    • john spielman says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 2:48 pm

      islam is the only ‘ religion’ (though it is actually a giant cult of pedophilia and death)that ” sanctifies ” (makes holy) LYING to unbelievers in order to gain advantage over them! it is called TAQIYYA!

  3. gabriel says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 2:21 pm

    Aesop’s Fables, translated by Laura Gibbs (2002)
    521. HERMES AND THE ARABS
    Hermes filled a cart with lies and dishonesty and all sorts of wicked tricks, and he journeyed in this cart throughout the land, going hither and thither from one tribe to another, dispensing to each nation a small portion of his wares. When he reached the land of the Arabs, so the story goes, his cart suddenly broke down along the way and was stuck there. The Arabs seized the contents of the cart as if it were a merchant’s valuable cargo, stripping the cart bare and preventing Hermes from continuing on his journey, although there were still some people he had not yet visited. As a result, Arabs are liars and charlatans, as I myself have learned from experience. There is not a word of truth that springs from their lips.
    ________________________________________

  4. jewdog says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    And the Sheikh adds:
    The check is in the mail.
    You’re looking thinner.
    I love my mother-in-laws.
    The Pope is Jewish.
    Daffy Duck is a black Muslim…

  5. Westman says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    Muslim cleric = liar for Islam. Refutes the Hadith and history and counts on those too lazy to read history and the Hadith.

    It must be awfully inconvenient when someone brings up the 1967 war where Egypt is defeated by tiny Israel. Give the clerics another 50 years and they will deny it ever happened or describe it as a great victory for Allah. What a great example they are, inspiring Muslim youth to mendacity and a life of seeking advantage.

  6. Rarely says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    Totally denying numerous historical facts. It is infinitely worse then trying to justify them. You can’t even talk to someone like him. And yet he’s so typical of the muslim clergy. If they used half the energy they spend keeping their masses ignorant and under their thumbs trying to improve the World imagine the possibilities.
    People like him are the worst traitors of the muslim people. By keeping them ignorant and in a perpetual state of imaginary victimhood people like him bring nothing but destruction and misery on his coreligionists and on the World in general.
    Where this all will lead is anyone’s guess as we struggle under that horrid Chinese curse: “May you live in interesting times”.

  7. David Munson says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 3:45 pm

    Muhammad did this while he was alive. He made war for the spoiles and the jizya.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 27, 2018 at 12:20 am

      Yep.

  8. gravenimage says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    Muslim cleric: “We never fought peoples. Whoever says that we conquered in order to collect the jizya tax is lying.”
    ……………….

    One bald-faced lie after another. So conquering half the then-known world was all ‘defensive’? Pull my other leg…

    Then the claim that there was no Armenian Genocide. I guess all 1.5 million Christians in Turkey just decided to commit suicide all at once…

    And finally, the claim that Muslims never forced anyone to convert to Islam. This is only true if you–like Muslims–don’t consider holding a victim’s family at sword point to be force…

    • SK says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 6:23 pm

      “In order to” is the game. They did it because they felt that they needed to do it because their beliefs demanded that they control territory in order to spread the rule of their beliefs on those Christians and those Jews and everyone else who lived there. They believed that they needed to control.

    • SK says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 6:25 pm

      “In order to” is the game. They did it because they felt that they needed to do it because their beliefs demanded that they control territory in order to spread the rule of their beliefs on those Christians and those Jews and everyone else who lived there to prove they were the best. They believed that they needed to control.

  9. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 6:01 pm

    Had it been Mr Spencer is properly learned on sharia books, he will understand that Ghanima (booty or war spoils) and jizya are not the main objectives of jihad fighting. The main objectives are to defend Islamic faith so that Muslims could practice their religion and preach it freely. The incomes from war spoils and jizya are just spontaneous. In fact all jizya payments and 1/5 of war spoils go to public treasury to be expended judiciously for the general welfare of the people, including those conquered. This has been the practice throughout muslim rules from rightly guided caliphs, umayyad, Abbasid, mughals in India and lastly ottoman Turks.

    • Bev says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 6:14 pm

      Seems to me though, that the Muslims are always the ones starting the war. So if you start the war, you’re obviously looking for the spoils and to conquer in order to dominate. Doesn’t Islam mean submission. So you are really looking to force people into submission. Nice try though trying to make it sound like Islam is such a great provider for the society all the while keeping slaves and your boot on the infdels throat.

    • Terry Gain says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 9:31 pm

      The Islamic faith did not exist east or west of Arabia until after offensive wars imposed Islam from the Atlantic to the Indian Ocean. Describing the spread of Islam as defensive Jihad requires an unabashedl willingness to lie.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 27, 2018 at 12:42 am

      The sickening Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      Had it been Mr Spencer is properly learned on sharia books, he will understand that Ghanima (booty or war spoils) and jizya are not the main objectives of jihad fighting.
      ……………………..

      Of course not. The main purpose of Jihad is to force the Infidels to submit to Islam. Pillaging, rape, enslavement, and Jizya are just perks for Muslims.

      More:

      The main objectives are to defend Islamic faith so that Muslims could practice their religion and preach it freely.
      ……………………..

      Yes–that they can “practice their religion…freely” by conquering and oppressing Infidels–a key part of Islam. *Horrifying*.

      More:

      The incomes from war spoils and jizya are just spontaneous.
      ……………………..

      “Spontaneous”? What crap. Pillage, rape, enslavement, and the imposition of Jizya is all done on the diktats of the Qur’an and the Hadith and the model of the vicious “Prophet”. There is nothing “spontaneous” about this.

      After all, non-Muslims are not doing this.

      More:

      In fact all jizya payments and 1/5 of war spoils go to public treasury to be expended judiciously for the general welfare of the people, including those conquered.
      ……………………..

      Uh…right. Tell us how much the Infidel sex slaves benefit from being pillaged and enslaved…

      More:

      This has been the practice throughout muslim rules from rightly guided caliphs, umayyad, Abbasid, mughals in India and lastly ottoman Turks.
      ……………………..

      Well, *of course* it has–that’s what makes Islamic history so bloody savage. We saw what this looks like up close and personal with the Islamic State, and its abuse, brutalization, rape, and mass murder of Infidels like Christians and the Yezidi. *Ugh*.

  10. sidney penny says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    “Hallward noted that he collected these details largely from “soldiers who took part in the massacre.””

    They love to brag and boast.

    Yes, we killed so many Armenians, Hindus, Christians, Jews…..

    LIke in this book below own means Muslim historians. Full of brags and boasts.

    The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians: The Muhammadan Period, Volume 3
    By Sir Henry Miers Elliot

    The History of India, as Told by Its Own Historians is a book comprising translations of medieval Persian chronicles based on the work of Henry Miers Elliot. It was originally published as a set of eight volumes between 1867-1877 in London. The translations were in part overseen by Elliot, whose efforts were then extended and edited posthumously by John Dowson.

    The book has been reprinted several times, and is also available online. Elliot was keen to contrast what he saw as the justice and efficiency of the British rule compared to cruelty and despotism of Muslim rule. He expressed hope that it “will make our native subjects more sensible of the immense advantages accruing to them under the mildness and equity of our rule.”[1]

    • sidney penny says

      Jun 26, 2018 at 7:19 pm

      cruelty and despotism of Muslim rule.

      There was no tremendous cross-cultural respect during Muslim rule.

      There would be no Pakistan and Bangladesh today.

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/10-myths-busted-in-robert-spencers-the-history-of-jihad

      6. Muslim rule in India characterized by “tremendous cross-cultural respect and not religious conflict”

  11. Wellington says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 7:48 pm

    Mendacity and Islam. A natural.

  12. mgoldberg says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 7:59 pm

    The clerics and the jihadists can not tell the truth, because they do not work, nor think in the terms of what ‘truth’ facts’ mean, nor what lies mean. Their leader, their ‘prophet’ denuded truth of facts, and truth itself was outlawed as discussion of what the truth was, was indeed outlawed since any investigation of the Quran, hadiths, sira is verboten except by musilm clerics who wouldn’t dare take it too task. There’s always a tafsir, a made up commentary to deny what things mean, are, say and are so demonstrated over the 14 centuries, and this is how the cleric here can go into utter denial of the obvious and the certified history that he should indeed be taking responsibiity for- but which he can’t even but deny that it’s all a lie,
    and you can bet it would go on and be attributed to the zionists, the infidels, the polytheists, etc etc etc.
    It’s never their fault in no way, and no how, and there’s no taking about it, nor examining it, and why,
    why because the muslims might get enraged, and violent.

  13. TheOldOligarch says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 9:06 pm

    ”We never massacred the Armenians, and anyway they started it”.

    The lies of Muslims would be hilarious if Islam weren’t fast becoming so large a problem, and if the subject matter was often not so dire.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 27, 2018 at 12:51 am

      That pretty much sums it up. OldOligarch…

  14. Ziba Delavar says

    Jun 26, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    So Persia being occupied by the Arabs for two centuries is all a fantasy. Right!!!!!! The alphabet becoming Arabic is a fantasy? Right! Persians never wanted to convert to Islam. Muhammad wrote a letter to King Khosraw inviting him and his people to convert to Islam, knowing very well the outcome. To a king, Muhammad was a total non-entity, a dirty desert-swelling Arab savage. The king tore up his letter. Muhammad wanted to start a war because he lusted after Persian wealth. That is all he wanted. MONEY. And here is the proof.

    The following is the words of Muhammad as recorded in the Hadith

    Sahih Bukhari; Volume 4, Book 52, Number 267

    Narrated by Abu Huraira:

    “The Prophet said, ‘Khosrau will be ruined, and there will be no Khosrau after him, and Caesar will surely be ruined and there will be no Caesar after him, and you will spend their treasures in Allah’s Cause.’ He called, ‘War is deceit.’”
    .

  15. abu taleb says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 12:05 am

    In my internet “debate” with the muslims in yahoogroups, seems like the muslims are very proud of their achievement in making lies and slander in order to humiliate the enemies of Islam, even though everybody (but the muslims probably) knows that those lies are lies. And stupidly, when a muslim creates a lie, other muslims may accept that as the truth.

    Does it come from Arabic culture (which coincidently may be the same as Islamic culture) which shaming people by bad words is considered an achievement? (my own view)

  16. Hogdude says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 3:18 am

    This man sounds like an American Democrat.

  17. TWG says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 10:23 am

    Well golly! He sounds just like a college/university professor!

    This is EXACTLY what they’re brainwashing our youth to believe.

  18. Mary Markstrom says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 11:13 am

    Nalanda was a Bhudist monastery destroyed by the Muslim invaders. Otranto in Italy has a church where the walls are constructed from the bones of 800 Christian men beheaded by Muslim invaders because they refused to convert to Islam. 400 women of the town were sold as sex slaves.

  19. Hogdude says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Oh, well, if Sheikh Abadi says it’s lying, it must be true. There go my lying eyes again. Or is he wrong? No, he said it, so….. Oh, I’m so confused. But, if he said it, it must be true. Oh, I repeat myself ad nauseum. I must be Mooslum.

  20. Jack Holan says

    Jun 27, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Sheikh Sharif Abadi keep singing that song since its historically and Religiously by Mohammed’s own Commannds. Oops you forgot about that part

    • Jack Holan says

      Jun 27, 2018 at 6:39 pm

      Easy to shoot down like a clay pigieion.

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