Today @netanyahu made an unprecedented offer to Iran that can help save countless lives.
PLEASE RT. #FreeIran2018For more information:https://t.co/RP7zFlwXgThttps://t.co/YfPuOoTMAG pic.twitter.com/ZQU7ONHsYN
— Yanki farber (@Farberyanki) June 10, 2018
Beautiful. This superbly encapsulates the humanity of the Judeo-Christian tradition in the face of the hatred and violence taught in the Qur’an and Sunnah.
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
That’s a joke.
ElderlyZionist says
What part do you think is funny?
gravenimage says
Why is St. Manuel II Palailogos saying this is a joke?
mortimer says
Netanyahu makes a SHUDDERINGLY TRUTHFUL POINT … the entire industry of the MULLAHS is DEATH and REPRESSION and ENSLAVEMENT.
We all wish that the Persians may have LIFE ABUNDANTLY without the ENSLAVEMENT and REPRESSION of Islam.
Islam is a euphemism for ‘slavery’. Islam’s premise is to deny much of what is wonderful in life and that makes life worth living. Muslims spend much of their time observing pointless OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE RITUALS.
clap says
But the promise of a whore house in the sky is too great a temptation for an inbred simpleton to pass up.
Carol the 1st says
The video above isn’t playing. While searching links I ran into this:
On June 30, 2018, at the “ #FreeIran ” gathering, we will show the world together that there is a popular alternative that echoes the true voice of the Iranian people 2 world
#Iran Grand #Gathering of the Iranian Resistance #NCRI
gravenimage says
Exactly, Mortimer!
WPM says
He is holding out an olive branch of knowledge that could save many Iranian lives. The rulers of Iran will not let this branch of knowledge to been seen by its people because it would put the “Jews” in a good light I predict .They will stick to camel urine ,,looking for the muddy pool the sun sets in everyday , and belief in the earth being flat over saving their own peoples lives.
R Russell says
I see on Israeli media, N Korea is telling porkies (Sorry that wasn’t very kosher!) about Israel. I wonder if that is so they hope they can blame Trump if the talks break down.
LeftisruiningCanada says
No, not so very kosher.
But some Israelis do Praise the Lard nonetheless.
Janwaar Bibi says
This superbly encapsulates the humanity of the Judeo-Christian tradition in the face of the hatred and violence taught in the Qur’an and Sunnah.
Moses and Muhammad have a lot more in common than Moses and Jesus. Both Mo’s were warlords, promoted slavery, committed genocides of tribes opposed to them, encouraged their cult members to rape captives (see Midianites), and were unashamed religious supremacists. Islam is a back-to-future version of Judaism – the Quran talks a lot more about the Old Testament and its warlord thugs than it does about Christianity and Jesus.
ElderlyZionist says
Right enough. Moses, however, dates to more than 3000 years ago. Today we are Rabbanate Jews. Muhammad complained that the Rabbanim covered with their hands the part of Moses’ Law that commanded to stone adulterers. Muhammad *wanted* to stone the couple taken in adultery, and so the Muslims did, and so they do today, but the Jews do not.
Janwaar Bibi says
That is reasonable and I have no problem with your point of view. Those of us alarmed by Islam should focus on the current behavior of Muslims and less on what the Quran says. Hinduism’s texts like the Laws of Manu have their share of barbarism but as you point out, most communities are trying to do better.
Rarely says
Great. Concentrate on the CURRENT behavior. Then what have you got? Emulating past behavior perhaps?
The mandatory imitation of a 7th century desert warlord without criticism or even minor updating is, to say the least, counterproductive. Islam cannot, of course, deviate from its teachings by even an inch or the whole thing falls apart. The imams cannot maintain their power over the masses without blind obedience. If they admit there are ANY holes at all that would open up critical thinking and many muslims would wonder how they could have been following such an idiot. A shooting star is WHAT??? Are you kidding me???
gravenimage says
If Judaism and Islam are just the same as Janwaar Bibi falsely claims, then why is the Jewish state saying such life-afirming things? As usual, he’s got nothing.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Elderlyzionist, you mean Rabbis erased the law of Moses on stoning of adulterers?why?
ElderlyZionist says
The Rabbanim taught us to turn away from capitol punishment, except in the most extreme cases. Eichmann needed to hang, adulterers, blasphemers and apostates not so much. Rabbanate Jews have also given up polygamy, slavery and many other barbarous and obsolete customs. The Law must change for the benefit of humanity. The Law is for mankind, not mankind for the Law.
gravenimage says
Notice that the *only* thing Ibrahim itace muhammed has to say here is that he is enraged that Jews are no longer stoning women to death. *Very* telling.
Buraq says
@ Bloodthirsty Ibe itace Mohamed
Hi Habibi, you bloodthirsty clown! Yet again, you’ve glossed over something to make your savage point.
A woman caught in adultery was brought before Jesus. The Elders tried to trap him by reminding him that the law of Moses said adulterers should be stoned to death. But what happened next …….? (Spoiler: Jesus was not a savage like Mohamed)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ylFgewaFcM
And a question for you Habibi: Are YOU without sin? And why does Islam not teach what Jesus taught? Why did your prophet not defer to the more moral and humane example?
martin says
Which is your favorite perversion of mumupig muhamad, sex with little girls, boys, other men, animals, corpses or wearing womans clothes?
martin says
@ibrashit Which is your favorite perversion of mumupig muhamad, sex with little girls, boys, other men, animals, corpses or wearing womans clothes?
gravenimage says
Martin, Ibrarhim itace muhammed has already said that Muslim men have the right to “marry” little girls, and made a big thing out of there being no minimum age for such vile pedophilic rape.
Carol the 1st says
@Ibby
islam would surely erase such muslim laws if somehow ‘wandering’ males stopped being allowed “temporary” wives. No doubt equal opportunity stoning would be very haram.
Lydia Church says
Uh, nooooo!
That was God’s judgment on sinful and evil nations.
That makes all the difference.
Try reading the WHOLE Bible sometime.
I know you can do it.
I’m really getting tired of all the leftist idiots who don’t get that point.
Was WWII evil, and war mongering, to destroy the nazi’s?
Of course not. Well they were worse, they sacrificed their babies in the fire to false gods.
So like… get a clue!
By the way, abortion is no better and judgment is coming here too.
And ALL of it is JUST.
Justice, just for you.
Janwaar Bibi says
That was God’s judgment on sinful and evil nations.
That’s what every fanatic says to justify his crimes. It’s not that different from what the Nazis said to justify their genocide of Jews and Gypsies.
Even if you ignore what the Israelites did to other tribes, the god of the Old Testament is a psychopath who commands the death penalty for “crimes” committed by his allegedly chosen race such as not keeping the sabbath, getting raped within city limits (Deuteronomy 22:23), or cursing a parent (Exodus 21:17).
This nice god of Abraham also detests physically handicapped people: Leviticus 21
16 The LORD said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is hunchbacked or dwarfed, or who has any eye defect,…..He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the LORD, who makes them holy.
A “god” who shuns blind or lame people is an a**hole. Anyone who claims this is a “loving god” is lying – if Muslims were doing it, you guys would be the first to run up and accuse them of taqiyya.
gravenimage says
Of course, it is the Judeo-Christian world which has led the way for rights for the disababled, as well as inventions that ameliorate such conditions, from braille to electric wheelchairs to cochlear implants and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) and similar laws throughout the West.
Of course, the vile Islamophilic Janwaar Bibi hopes we don’t know our own history.
eduardo odraude says
Janwaar Bibi,
You are confusing things. Judaism is profoundly different from Islam, whatever superficial overlap there may be. Even if all religions are a tissue of fantasy, one can see that the Jewish paradigm leads to open societies, whereas the Islamic paradigm leads to authoritarian and totalitarian systems. Some differences:
1. Islam is a proselytizing system with a plan for world domination and 1.5 billion members.
2. Judaism has perhaps 15 million members and is not a proselytizing religion and has no plan for totalitarian global domination.
3. Judaism says man is made in the image of God. The Qur’an explicitly denies this, saying in Qur’an Chapter 42 verse 11: “The Creator of the heavens and the earth. He hath made for you pairs of yourselves, and of the cattle also pairs, whereby He multiplieth you. Naught is as His likeness; and He is the Hearer, the Seer.” In Judaism, there is a spark of the divine in human beings. Not so in Islam. So they treat human beings differently.
4. The name of the Jewish God is “I Am”. That is one reason individualism meshes so well with Judaism and its offshoot Christianity. Allah, by contrast, does not mean “I Am”.
5. The Jewish God is characterized in the Bible as a “father” and human beings are his “children.” The Qur’an explicitly rejects this, saying that Allah is not a father and has no children. The Qur’an characterizes Muslims as God’s servants or slaves, not his children. Thus the two religions treat human beings very differently.
6. God is a maker and a commander in both faiths, but in Judaism the emphasis is on God as Maker whereas in Islam the emphasis is on God the commander or despot. The Jewish God has his children imitating the act of divine creation: they are told to be “fruitful and multiply.” But as Daniel Boorstin pointed out, in Islam for a human being to create is a rash and dangerous act, since human beings are forbidden to pretend to imitate Allah’s creative power, reserved to Allah alone.
7. The Qur’an was the work of one man. The Jewish Bible is the work of many people over many centuries.
8. Islam has no golden rule. Non-Muslims are only treated as equals when they are in the majority or by Muslims ignoring the example of Muhammad. The Jewish Bible, by contrast, tells Jews to treat the foreigner or stranger with the golden rule, since the Jews were themselves strangers in a strange land.
9. On a per capita basis, Jews produce literally ten thousand times as many Nobels in the sciences, math, medicine, and economics as are produced by Muslims: 1.5 billion Muslims have produced one or two Nobel prizes in those fields. With 1/100th the population of Muslims, Jews have nevertheless produced about 100 times the number of Nobel prizes. 100 x 100 = 10,000, thus a Jew is 10,000 times more likely than a Muslim to win a Nobel prize in one of those fields.
This tremendous difference is not due to genetics. It is due to the radical differences between the two cultures and religions, one of which celebrates life, while the other celebrates death and destruction.
gravenimage says
+1
Keys says
Well laid out, eduardo.
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Janwaar Bibi compared Moses with Mohammad. I
I read today that Mohammad/Allah may have thought (as implied in the Koran) that Mary, Jesus’ mother, was Moses’ and Aaron’s sister; so Moses was Jesus’ uncle – Uncle Moses and Uncle Aaron. [Koran 3:33-45, 19:27-28]
Of course, muslim scholars could say that this (3:33-45) just means Mary was born of the house of Imran (Moses’ father), just like Joseph is of the house of David.
But the OT refers to Miriam in Micah 4:6 “I brought you up from the land of Egypt, from the place of slavery I ransomed you; And I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam.” And a midrash refers to Miriam as the eldest daughter of Imram.
Did Mohammad and Allah get their Miriams confused ?
(Koran 19:27-28) “At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: “O Mary! truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!””O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!”
Mary is referred to as the “sister of Aaron”. Muslim scholars could say this means she is of the house od Aaron, the priestly line; or that it is just a co-incidence having a brother named Aaron.
But usually one refers to the son of the house of “x”, or the daughter of the “house of “x”, not the the sister of the house of Aaron.
Seems Mohammad’s nose got a little longer. Oh, well explain it away, but don’t abbrogate it.
Wellington says
Janwaar Bibi: Jews don’t look upon Moses as the Model Man. What Moses did was for one time and place (and a very limited place at that as opposed to wanting all the real estate on earth as Islam instructs Muslims to do).
By contrast, what Mohammed did is a paradigm for action for all time for Muslims. He is the Model Man and all that rot forever. Huge differences here. So much so that your comparison of Moses and Mohammed suffers from a superficiality that doesn’t even deserve being called glib because it is worse than glib.
gravenimage says
Fine post.
Kay says
. . . all the nations of the earth will be blessed.
Halal Bacon says
what he is saying is they worship different gods
WPM says
The Koran, Hadiths ,are instructions on how to live . today they cannot be change or criticize on penalty of death today. The old testament is observation on what happen years ago. Slavery rape captives ,religious supremacist, has not been practice or accepted by leaders of the Jewish faith for over 1000 years .The Jews have been on the receiving end of themselves being killed, enslaved , and driven out of many lands in that time. What this has to do with Israel sharing water saving methods on line with a country whose leaders swear to drive them into the sea and erase them from the map? I think you are baiting and mudding the issue of Israel holding out a olive branch of peace in a form of saving Irian lives. In this day you still have Imams preaching death to the Jews in Mosques all over the world, you cannot find any Rabbi preaching death to Moslems in any Jewish Temple today that is the difference between the two faiths. Islam is forever at war with the Jews.it is a foundation of its faith and followers beliefs.
Keys says
WPM –
Your excellent post must be in response to Janwaar Bibi’s 9:32 am post.
Much of the OT is the history of God’s loving relationship with the Jewish people, whereas the Koran is about no relationship, but submission and slavery to Allah.
One a relationship that grows and thrives, the other a relationship that never changes – mired in miserable stagnation.
gravenimage says
Fine post.
Carol the 1st says
Our government will take action to ensure that events like Al Quds Day, which calls for the killing of an entire civilian population in Israel, are no longer part of the landscape in Ontario.
Doug Ford@fordnation
B’Nai Brith has a petition demanding that Toronto’s City Manager end future al-Quds Day rallies and fine the organizers.
https://www.bnaibrith.ca/alquds2018
SIGN OUR PETITION: End al-Quds Day and Fine its Organizers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy1o2xdGOiU&feature=youtu.be
Poindexter says
There is nothing positive that can be said for Islamic beliefs No true Religion Calls for Death to anyone & everyone who is a non believer of that wonderful peaceful crock of BS known as the Quran a Book that says it is ok to deceive others to have Child Brides as young as 8 so it is no wonder a Barbaric Demonic evil Country like Iran makes irrational statements hopefully it will be them that gets wiped of the face of the Earth.
gravenimage says
It is Iran that is threatening to wipe Israel off the map.
Walter Sieruk says
The mullahs and ayatollahs as well as other hateful Muslims in power in that tyrannical Islamic regime of Iran get the Iranian people all worked up against Israel and in brainwashed confusion have the Iranian people loudly chant “Death to Israel” again and again. One reason the mullahs and other of this Islamic tyranny mind program the people of Iran into such an awful mindset is to distract them as to the terrible condition they have to endure in that cruel and oppressive “Mullahs regime” of Iran.
As for the Israeli response and reply of “Life to the Iranian people” obviously show that the Israelis understand the power in mind control that the mullah have the people of Iran under. In addition, the Iranian people do need life ,for to exist under the harsh oppression of that Iranian Islamic regime is just that “existence” and not life.
Furthermore, Ayatollah Khomeini and his lying and deceptions started this Islamic regime Iran which is based in the foundation of false and empty promises. As well as lying words. After the fiendish Muslim clerics obtained total power in Iran they showed their true colors by having their Islamic state police who are called the “Revolutionary Guards truest the people on Iran in many heinously brutal and ruthless ways. As, for example, their brutal, callous misogyny against both girls and women. This thesis statement is explained, in some detail, by the following. This tyrannical Islamic regime in Iran that so falsely and inappropriately has the word “republic” in its title. It should be made known that this called the “Iranian Revolution” turned out to be a hoax. Ayatollah Khomeini before achieving power in Iran in his lying and deceptions presented himself to the Iranian people as if he was someone who would be in power would give freedom to the people of Iran with any tyranny. The reality turned out to be just the opposite. As explained by a former Muslim as well as a man who took part in this Islamic “revolution “ ,who is now a Christian informs the reader of his book that “Prior to the Revolution no one ever imagined that other political parties would be suppressed under the rule of Ayatollah Khomeini. He had promised that all groups would have freedom to run their own campaigns after the Revolution. He even stated that governing system would be based on the decision of the people via a referendum. He never spoke of a system that would be governed by Islam. He even made clear that mullahs would not take part in any political activities, and that they would only be allowed to teach spirituality… Immediately after the Revolution, mullahs rushed into government offices to occupy the most important political l positions, making it difficult for the interim secular government to function … The mullah’s occupation of position was exactly the opposite to what the Ayatollah Khomeini had promised before the Revolution.”. [1] In other words, the insincere, disingenuous and outright lying Ayatollah Khomeini made many bogus promise he really had no intention of keeping. His lying deception worked, for he achieved great power in Iran.
Furthermore, of the many heinously evils outcome s of that Islamic “revolution” is the extremely cruel, brutal and demonic misogyny of this hideous Islamic regime. Not only against women but even young girls. As explained by a former Iranian Revolutionary Guard member who defected to the West and how now lives in America his book also informs the reader about the malicious and murderous affront girls in Iran’s Evin prison which reads that those in power ,the “paraded teenage girls in front in front of me as they led them to their deaths. These girls were barely out of their childhood, barely old enough to think of themselves, much less form thoughts against the state. They knew nothing about the machinations of politics. They were innocent in every sense of the word and certainty innocent of trumped –up charges that led to their imprisonment. Yet they suffered fates too brutal for even the most vicious criminal. ..Their few remaining moments of life had been filled with the level of abuse that few can imagine…The author further states “They tortured and killed young girls, in God’s name and before their execution they raped them because they believed that if a girl dies virgin, she will go to heaven, and they wanted to deny them this reward.” [2] This is as malice -filled and viciously wicked as can possibly be. This, very much, reflects the Wisdom found in the Bible which in Proverbs 15:15. For it reads “All the days of the oppressed are wretched. “ and likewise Proverbs 29:2. Which teaches “When the wicked rule, the people groan. “ [N.I.V.]
[1] ISLAM THE HOUSE I LEFT BEHIND by Daniel Shayesteh . Pages 90, 91
[2] A TIME TO BETRAY by Reza Kahlili. Pages 2,3. 117.
Carol the 1st says
The people of Iran seem to hold great promise. Is it a pipe dream to wonder if they could totally stuff Islam? They seem to have enough brains and courage for it if anyone does.
abu taleb says
That is the difference between pious muslims and some normal human beings. Pious muslims who follow Islamic teaching want to kill other people, normal human beings want to help other lives.
gravenimage says
🙂
Lydia Church says
That was such a lovely olive branch and I loved it!
Too bad all these morons have to come on here and leave their fecal comments.
Some things never change.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Evil Netanyahu is lying. Fascist evil Zionists have no love to Iranians. They have been looking for ways to attack Iran, but have realized that Iran will respond with random might to destroy all their strategic arsenals so that no more threats to middleast region. Idiot scum of evils!!
ElderlyZionist says
I wondered when you’d show up, Ibby. Clearly, you are too discerning to be taken in by Netanyahu’s fascist Zionist hydrology. You should boycott the Jews’ evil water. The Hadiths establish that camel urine is a healthful beverage for the Believers. You should drink that, and imitate the example of the Arabs, those best of people. If there are too few camels in Nigeria to keep you hydrated, then goat piss should be an acceptable substitute, halal and pleasing to Allah. Drink up, bubbelah.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Seconded
eduardo odraude says
Thirded!
Wellington says
Fourthed.
gravenimage says
Ha ha!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Elderlyzionist, evil is part of Jewish blood except few of them like my Jewish blood relations who oppose Israeli fascism
ElderlyZionist says
Awww, is that what ‘she’ told you, Ibby? “I used to be an evul Joo, but now the Believers have cleansed me of their Joowish filth.” Did you meet on the Stormfront dating app? Here’s a hint: Don’t send her any more money. And don’t chew any more on those panties she mailed you.
LeftisruiningCanada says
behold the triggered ibrahim.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Elderlyzionist, evil is part of Jewish blood except few of them like my Jewish blood relations who oppose Israeli fascism
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Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed has gleefully said how much he looks forward to personally taking part in the genocide of the Jews. This gives a grim new meaning to “blood relatives”, I’m afraid…
Is anyone surprised that they have to play the dhimmi when this violent Mohammdan is around?
gravenimage says
More projection from Ibrahim itace muhammed.
gravenimage says
Netanyahu: “The Iranian regime shouts, ‘Death to Israel.’ In response, Israel shouts, ‘Life to the Iranian people.’”
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Bravo! Am Yisrael Chai!
eduardo odraude says
L’Chaim!