It is unclear on what basis Mustafa is making these statements. The Qur’an says:
The month of Ramadan in which was revealed the Qur’an, a guidance for the people and clear proofs of guidance and criterion. So whoever sights the month, let him fast it; and whoever is ill or on a journey – then an equal number of other days. Allah intends for you ease and does not intend for you hardship and for you to complete the period and to glorify Allah for that which He has guided you; and perhaps you will be grateful….It has been made permissible for you the night preceding fasting to go to your wives. They are clothing for you and you are clothing for them. Allah knows that you used to deceive yourselves, so He accepted your repentance and forgave you. So now, have relations with them and seek that which Allah has decreed for you. And eat and drink until the white thread of dawn becomes distinct to you from the black thread. Then complete the fast until the sunset. And do not have relations with them as long as you are staying for worship in the mosques. These are the limits of Allah, so do not approach them. Thus does Allah make clear His ordinances to the people that they may become righteous.” (Qur’an 2:185, 187)
In any case, since Paigham Mustafa doesn’t accept or has some interpretation of it that differs from the prevailing one, Muslims have threatened to kill him. “Shut up or else you will get your head chopped off … shut up or else you will be beheaded … shut up you Kafir dog … you will get beheaded … we will kill you kafir. A separate message sent privately by another critic said: “Quran says kill people like you. You deserve to be killed. We will kill you. Another post by a third critic warned: “Don’t talk about Islam you Kafir. Remove this post Kafir. Or else you will get killed like Rashad Khalifa.”
A Muslim murdered Rashad Khalifa in Arizona in 1990 for deviating from Islamic orthodoxy.
“‘You will get your head chopped off’ – Scots Muslim writer threatened by extremists,” by Peter Swindon, Sunday Herald, June 3, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A SCOTS writer has been threatened with beheading by extremists after he claimed fasting between dawn and sunset during the month of Ramadan is not a requirement in the Quran, the Sunday Herald can reveal.
Paigham Mustafa and his family have been offered protection by police after several fundamentalists branded him a “Kafir”, which means disbeliever, and issued death threats.
Mustafa claims to be living under a fatwa issued in 2001 by 15 imams in Glasgow after he published a series of articles questioning mosque teachings. The married father of three later published his book The Quran: God’s Message to Mankind, his interpretation of the central religious text of Islam.
Last week, a letter written by Mustafa questioning the practice of fasting during Ramadan was published and subsequently posted on Facebook.
In a series of threatening messages under the post, one critic said: “Shut up or else you will get your head chopped off … shut up or else you will be beheaded … shut up you Kafir dog … you will get beheaded … we will kill you kafir.”
A separate message sent privately by another critic said: “Quran says kill people like you. You deserve to be killed. We will kill you.”
Another post by a third critic warned: “Don’t talk about Islam you Kafir. Remove this post Kafir. Or else you will get killed like Rashad Khalifa.”
Khalifa was an Egyptian American who was stabbed to death in 1990 by an Islamic fundamentalist at a mosque where he worked in Tucson, Arizona. Like Mustafa, Khalifa wrote a book about the Quran and his analysis and his subsequent claim to be a prophet led to the 11th Majlis al-Fuqaha’ (Council of Religious Scholars) to brand Khalifa a Kafir in 1989. He was killed less than a year later.
Mustafa fears he will be targeted by fundamentalists in the UK and compared himself to Asad Shah, who was stabbed to death in a religiously-motivated murder in Glasgow in 2016. Shah’s killer, Tanveer Ahmed, said Shah had “disrespected the messenger of Islam, the Prophet Muhammad”….
Nour says
Can you verify this story from other sources? Looks like another Harry Potter to me.
BTW, Former Tunisian president Habib Bourguiba denied both Ramadan and Hijab, but he was not killed or called Kafir by fellow Muslims.
mgoldberg says
He had an army behind him
Rob Crawford says
What happened to Rashad Khalifa? Why was he killed?
Do you deny that Mohammed ordered the murder of apostates?
Terry Gain says
Nour
Was he threatened by your peaceful co-religionists? As you know, Muhammad was a murderer, slave-taker, rapist and pedophile (among other things). And yet, he’s the role model for what is obviously a false religion. Why do you condone these crimes
CogitoErgoSum says
Muhammad’s credibility revolved around his magical ability to deliver the booty. You want money? Come to Muhammad. You want sex? Come to Muhammad. You want blood and gore? Come to Muhammad. You want women to do whatever you say? Come to Muhammad. You want to feel holy while you commit every act that is unholy? Come to Muhammad. EXPERIENCE THE MAGIC. (Just don’t forget who’s in charge.)
gravenimage says
Nour wrote:
Can you verify this story from other sources? Looks like another Harry Potter to me.
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The Herald is a perfectly reliable source–it is, in fact, the longest running national newspaper in the world. Pretending that they publish false stories is absurd.
But the threats to Paigham Mustafa have, of course, also been covered elsewhere. This from the Times, from 2016:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/british-muslim-publishes-true-koran-reading-7rmfdkbqd
More:
BTW, Former Tunisian president Habib Bourguiba denied both Ramadan and Hijab, but he was not killed or called Kafir by fellow Muslims.
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Actually, he was widely condemned by his more devout coreligionists. Former ally Ben Youssef accused him of ‘trampling on Muslim values” and he was eventually sentenced to death. He escaped to Libya but was later assassinated in Germany.
And Ben Youssef was not the only one. There was a bloody civil war in the 1950s Tunisia largely over just such issues. Later, in the 1970s, there was a popular uprising there–and again in the 1980s.
Bourguiba prevailed initially mostly because he was the one who signed for liberation from France. And Bourguiba pandered to Islamists, as well, saying, “We cannot forget that…we are rooted in the Islamic civilization”. And at one point, he considered merging with Libya and other Mahgrabi states to form an “Islamic Republic”.
This wasn’t enough–he was under huge condemnation in the Muslim world, and Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz–later the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia–accused him of apostasy.
There were plots to assassinate Bourguiba, and rounds of death sentenses.
Eventually, Bourguiba was ousted. The idea that all Muslims were sanguine about his policies–including those that lessened the influence of Islam–is just absurd.
None of this is obscure, and much of it is within living memory. Why would Nour think we wouldn’t know this?
Notice that Nour never actually says that she has a problem with death threats against Mustapha. Very telling.
Maureen Roberts says
Spot on, that is why Tommy Robinson puts his life on the line , to expose this political ideology . He is vilified by the media and government , called far right and racist etc, yet nothing is further from the truth as you listen In his last ever interview on tube he talks with open candour about his life, and why he is passionate about what he does. Well worth a watch . type in’ Breaking Tommy Robinson last interview before he was locked up’. YouTube.
J D S says
In today’s JW there are do many “Ramadan in’s” that it’s just too much to take in….muslims on the rampage…So far America has been spared much of what’s happening with Islamist the world over…..Thanks to our constitution and strong leadership especially in President Trump but he is an outsider and being attacked on all fronts,
Leaks, holdovers,from Obummer administration, backstabbing, Fake News, MSM, Courts and so much more, are taking their toll…What these seem not to know or maybe they are complicit, is that Muslims are trying to move in on America. as they have in Europe..Do these want this to happen????? From the actions of many it would seem so. DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE US FROM OURSELVES
Bev says
Koran is nothing more than the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic with violent tendencies. There is no telling what the voices in his head were directing him to do. There are so many contradictions that I can see where people could pick out the verses they like the best, and discard the others. Until this ideology has a great reformation and joins the rest of the world in the 21st century instead of the 7th, I don’t want them in the US. The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” Islam as a totalitarian theocracy, whose intent forever and always is to implement Sharia wherever Islam goes.
yo4967 says
Youve read I see..I concur with your findings on Quran and the writer’s there were many that interpreted and wrote in it. Half plagiarized half ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic.
Berengaria says
Thank you Bev, but could we find anyone to actually enforce Public Law 414? That Law was enacted in the 1950 Era & most of our Country considered themselves Americans & obeyed the Laws of Our Land. Now, we have been torn apart by the little god of Diversity & special unwritten laws now govern each little group. The only group that obeys our American Laws are the Real Americans, while the Hyphenated & Alien Migrant Groups are “allowed” to simply implant their own Laws & the Biggest Group, Muslims advocate replacing American Law with Sharia.
If we don’t enforce our Own Laws, Our Country of Laws will then be overthrown by the Victorious Group of Aliens!
David says
Much more difficult to fast when daylight lasts 17 hours than when daylight lasts 12 hours. Even more difficult when daylight lasts almost 24 hours.
Giacomo Latta says
That should keep them out of the Arctic countries but it won’t.
Jaladhi says
What the hell is wrong with these people?? They can’t tolerate anybody saying anything about Islam. What mind control this nonsense cult exerts over Muslims that makes them brain dead!
JawsV says
Yes, Muslims = brain dead. No doubt about it.
Giacomo Latta says
You could say that about the follower of any religion but when it comes to Islam, multiply by a million.
CogitoErgoSum says
Their own sense of self-worth depends upon trying to make others feel inferior. It enrages them to be ignored or scorned.
Jaladhi says
They are are ones with inferiority complex from day one and that is why they resort to all these criminal activities and calling others inferior. Ha, ha,… – they know what inferiority complex fells like!
infidel numero uno says
More evidence of how vile and corrupt is the “religion of peace.” It must be eradicated from the face of the Earth.
JawsV says
Yes, Islam should be eradicated.
Infidel says
What do these animals contribute to this world other than threats and violence..!! Shameless creatures…
Susan B. says
“It has been made permissible for you the night preceding fasting to go to your wives.”
We all know that husbands/owners are allowed to rape their wive(s) as spelled out in verse 4.34
So rape is permitted before fasting. What a lovely cult.
Giacomo Latta says
They cannot do their wives in the mosque during Ramadan but there is nothing about behind the mosque where the dumpster is or in adjacent backyards.
Westman says
Eat, drink, and be merry with your wives tonight, for tomorrow we fast(during daylight) – is quite the harbringer of sacrifice.
Has anyone done a statistical analysis to determine if there is a cluster of births nine months after Ramadan? And Muslims certainly discuss weight gain during Ramadan; the internet being full of advice on how to avoid it.
The real “sacrifice” is time and little else for the men. Skipping one meal is not much of a sacrifice. For the women it means getting up very early in the morning to prepare the meals for men, before dawn, after a busy night of feeding and cleaning up after them. Islam is consistent, keeping women in their place at all times. Ramadan is a celebration for Muslim men.
It seems unlikely, even with the death threats between Muslims, that Scotland’s elite will wake up to the reality of what they are importing.
Cicero says
O it is the Scottish elite who ha e given Muslims in Scotland a huge amount of power in education and civic life.
Infidel says
LOOK at Pakistan.. just last week they promised India that there would be ceasefire all across the border and today these animals have gone back on their killing spree. This is the UMPTEENTH TIME that Pakistan has broken ceasefire agreements with India and we Hindus know that this is just ISLAMIC TAQIYYA to buy time… But our stupid Govt NEVER LEARNS..
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/latest-ceasefire-violation-proves-pak-says-one-thing-does-another-bsf-ig/articleshow/64437821.cms
Infidel says
Islamic Taqiyya in action of course… I DO NOT TRUST A SINGLE ONE OF THEM.. How much ever they sweet talk to U..
Cicero says
Yes talk back sweetly but always be on your guard like Chhatrapati Shivaji Msharaj
Eur says
If they find another hobby for sure it will not be work. They are lazy and religion is their excuse.
Logic&Reason says
Islam’s (Muhammad’s) response to all forms of dissent is DEATH. Criticism? Argument? Reason? Debate? Parody?
Nope. Death. Not just a threat. A promise, as has been carried out over 1400 years.
Odd how Allah is “all powerful”…..but he needs his Islaminions to do the killing for him, to prove how loyal they are. Male Islaminions sacrificing their own lives in the process? Even better! Direct trip to Eternal Bootyville! Who says sex doesn’t sell……
If the LEFT are looking to end patriarchal oppression, they’re siding with the wrong ideology. Useful idiots.
underbed cat says
It may be possible that he posted his comment so to deceive the non muslim or so an ill muslim can survive knowing that their Prophet will understand he has a heavy burden and show compassion.
The response of criticism is for others to show pious….as they say to save a muslim life is to save the whole world…..
What in the world happened to Scotland.
Ecosse1314 says
Mass immigration…sigh
Logic&Reason says
Try doing anything like this with Islam. No possible way…ANYWHERE in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuxsAHu67SE
JawsV says
No, camel poop.
JawsV says
Why in the world are there Muslims in Scotland?
Ecosse1314 says
Loads of them…even in the islands there is a mosque. Every major and even minor ones have them.
JawsV says
I’m so sorry to hear that. Disgusting.
gravenimage says
Yes–terrible.
MARTEL SOBIESKI says
Punishment for not fasting – Hanafi Fiqh > DarulIftaBirmingham
https://islamqa.org/hanafi/daruliftaa-birmingham/20053
In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful.
Answer
Saaiduna Ibn Abbas Radiallahu Anhu narrates that the Prophet of Allah Sallallahu Alahi Wasalam said: “The bonds of Islam and the basis of religion are three on which Islam was founded. Whoever gives up one of them becomes a kafir and thereby it is permissible to shed his blood: the testimony that there is no God but Allah, the prescribed prayers and fasting in Ramadhan. (Majmaul-Zawaaid p.48 v.1)
JawsV says
Islam — a curse on the planet.
Learning islam says
Please Google
Facts you don’t know about the Quran Sherif Gaber
. Sherif speak in arabic and there are English sub-title in u-tube video
Is the Quran a Miracle? By Hassan Radwan
Abdullah Sameer
Both are ex-muslim athiests .Very knowledgable . Highly recommended
Please, Google
The Funniest quran verse (Crazy quran verse 2)
• Allah’s sole existence is to satisfy Muhammad’s selfish desires. It’s hard to know who’s Allah and who’s Muhammad.
• It’s brilliant. Allah telling people what Muhammad thinks on Muhammads behalf through Muhammad. You couldn’t make it up. Oh hang on a second?. In other words, Mo always got Allah to do his dirty work. Some “prophet”.
• the ‘eternal’ word of God for mankind’s guidance for all time is troubling himself with the present issues of one man who will sòon be dead. How can that be relevant to humanity?
• Surah 33 is probably one of the most disturbing and silly chapters of the Quran. I’m just thankful two-thirds of the chapter were lost.
• (Just imagine this. Muhammad wanted people to leave after they finished their meal, but he did not wanted to say it. But then he said it anyway, except he inserted the words HE wanted to say into the mouth of Allah and said it for him. That is how it sounds like and why its additionally quite ridiculous to consider this the eternal, holy word of God. And then the next line makes it maybe even more clear that this cannot possibly come from God “And when you ask (his wives) for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts.” This Allah is supposed to be the same God who speaks in the Bible, but yet we see a completely different God who expresses himself very differently by sounding more like Muhammad himself
If the Quran really is the final word of Allah and it’s supposed to be applicable and universal until the end of times then why would Allah include such a trivial matter in the Quran? What is a believer in the 21st century supposed to interpret from this passage?
Do you honestly believe that, prior to Creation, Allah knew that his favorite prophet would be annoyed by inconsiderate house guests, and thus solved the problem for him by handing down a “revelation” in the “Mother of all books”, that is preserved on a tablet in heaven??? Doesn’t “God” have something better to do than play toady to a minor Arabian war lord? A child of ten could readily understand that this is MUHAMMAD speaking, with Allah as his convenient puppet.
And what’s this business about not marrying Muhammad’s wives after his death? HOW CRUEL COULD ALLAH BE??? Most of those wives were very young women, already half-living after being given to Muhammad. Surely the LEAST Allah could do was to insure that they had happy, normal lives after the passing of the “prophet”. Here again, this is OBVIOUSLY Muhammad speaking with Allah as his puppet. The “prophet” was SOOO INSECURE and self-absorbed. It never seemed to occur to him that other human beings might have rights of their own – inclyding the right to be free of him and happy.
Why did Muhammad forbid marrying his wives after his death?
Because prophet Muhammad was impotent. Muhammad himself knew that he had no power to be a father. So in second marriage his widows’ had a possibility to be a mother. And this incident would reveal Muhammad’s truth.
So to hide his shame prophet Muhammad gave such order.
Even Ibrahim was not Prophet Muhammad’s son.
Because Maria had a Christian man
When aisha saw ibrahim she told to Muhammad “the son does not resemble you .” In this story Ali killed maria’s man. And sadly we all know that Ibrahim died at the age of two.
What is the Koran, you say? Muhammad says it’s the word of God (Allah), but only he heard it. He monopolized God, because Muslims rely 100% on Muhammad. He monopolized the prophets, by radically altering them in the Koran, thus, they are inventions of Muhammad.
But the other texts, you say? The hadith and sunna are merely supplemental texts, written hundreds of years after Muhammad’s sordid life. No religion except Islam relies 100% on a single man. Islam, what a banal, bloody, hateful mess it is.
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Alexis Jankowski3 months ago
The story has no meaning and no point. Obviously, this is not a practice that we could repeat to solve murders. So….what do we take away from it? This is often found in the Quran and why I could never accept it.
the quran has no relevance to today or applicability today.
GSatiFan3 months ago
Am I the only one who feels sorry for the tortured cow?
Btw. Why is this sura so holy? Because it’s long? I don’t get it.
Jos Noorhoff3 months ago
To hit the dead body with a piece of meat of the sacrificed cow, is offcourse refering to a heart transplantation to revive the body ,because the Quran is the most advanced book. ( Just trying to be an islamic theologian )
Hustle Loy2 months ago
Sahih al-Bukhari 5686 Book 76, Hadith 9 Narrated Anas: The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. When the news reached the Prophet (ﷺ) he sent some people in their pursuit. When they were brought, he cut their hands and feet and their eyes were branded with heated pieces of iron.
Giacomo Latta says
Why does Islam exist? Because a long time ago one sexual deviant with equally strong desires for land and wealth decided he would tell everyone that God had spoken to him and made him his sole agent. So, hey, if God’s supposed book says Mo can be as sexually deviant and as war-mongering as he likes then all he needs is some dimwits to believe it and success is guaranteed. The Koran is the most self-serving book in history. Mind you if people like OJ Simpson or any Clinton or Harvey Weinstein or the like ever decided to write a book he could be in for some competition.
gravenimage says
Ramadan in Scotland: Muslims threaten to murder a fellow Muslim for saying Ramadan fast isn’t required
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This is all perfectly Halal…
gravenimage says
It is terrible that Paigham Mustafa is being threatened with death by his more devout coreligionists, and I hope he stays safe.
He is quite an ugly Taqiyya artist, though:
“Paigham Mustafa: The Quran does not preach violence – rather it believes in tolerance and harmony”
http://www.thenational.scot/politics/15526744.Paigham_Mustafa__The_Quran_does_not_preach_violence_____rather_it_believes_in_tolerance_and_harmony/
And, worse:
“Paigham Mustafa: Why it’s clear Donald Trump and Britain First’s Jayda Fransen have never read the Quran”
http://www.thenational.scot/news/15699489.Paigham_Mustafa__Why_it_s_clear_Trump_and_Britain_First_s_Fransen_have_never_read_the_Quran/
Just bald-faced lies.