How marvelous. How generous. How open-minded. How tolerant. How diverse. How multicultural. But when will gestures of this kind be reciprocated? When have they ever been reciprocated?
“Church leaders backing bid for new city mosque,” by Rob George, Worcester Observer, June 13, 2018 (thanks to Maurice):
CHURCH leaders across Worcester have lent their support to an ambitious £3million Worcester Muslim Welfare Association bid to build a new mosque in the heart of the city.
Members of the Church of England clergy in Worcester East Deanery backed the bid for the contemporary building on Stanley Road in a letter to association general secretary Mohammed Iqbal.
Rev Paul Honniball and Rev Kalantha Brewis attended the interfaith Iftar at the mosque on Monday evening to present the letter and were invited to read it out to those gathered just before the Ramadan fast was broken.
Under the ground-breaking proposals, the association wants to build the mosque on the old Stanley Road School car park and move from its current site on Tallow Hill to cater for its growing number of worshippers.
The charity also intends to build apartments and a new sports centre at the site, which includes Unity House community centre.
Senior figures from St Nicholas Church, St Barnabas with Christ Church, St Martin’s, St John the Baptist in Claines and All Saints Worcester are among those lending their names to the cross-faith show of support.
Rev David Morphy, associate priest at St Stephen’s Barbourne, Rev Canon Dr Alvyn Pettersen, canon theologian at Worcester Cathedral and Rev Andy Stand, team vicar at St Mark in the Cherry Orchard and St. Philip and St. James in Whittington are also among the names on the letter.
“We are aware the current accommodation for the purposes of worship and religious education for the Muslim community in Worcester is very limited,” the letter reads.
“We wish to record publicly we welcome the development of the facilities you are proposing, particularly the development of a worship space which can be used by female worshippers, sports facilities for the local community and facilities for young people.
“This will be a significant investment in the city we all share….
PRCS says
Just roll over and die, already!
Save Europe says
No thanks! People like me will fight, quite frankly.
mortimer says
SE… a mosque in a neighborhood is the beginning of major parking problems, then of vandalism, then of rape, then of grooming gangs.
Who needs the hassles? Mosques are busy all week and tie up the parking in the whole neighborhood. Dangerous men are going in and out. They have hostility towards the dirty kufaar and go to mosque to study how to enslave the disbelievers.
Determined lawyers can use existing laws to stop the construction of a mosque.
WESTPAC Spy says
Aww, c’mon. The good Reverend and team Vicar need a new Toyota Prius to take their gay boyfriends out to the raves in London. Their cut on the land deal will pay for the car and a hefty share of the drugs.
Sorry, when I hear “Church of England” that’s what I think. I’m Catholic in my disdain.
Sons of Liberty says
Exactly , PRCS ! Insanity is bliss in the UK . Why don’t they just rollover and make Sharia the law of the land , it certainly is coming ….soon ! Winston Churchill is MOST definitely rolling over in his grave ,…WHAT happened to we will fight them in the hills and the valleys …we WILL NEVER SURRENDER ! I think that was the American blood in him coming out when he said that , he would be APPALLED at what is taking place in ENGLAND today !
PRCS says
Mostly agree.
Asally says
Would it ever occur to these churchmen that there might be some local people who need help? Maybe they could sponsor some help for the victims of the child rape gangs these creeps are promoting. Those little girls could have used some support.
John says
These Fools are paying for they own Funeral Plan
J D S says
Unbelievable!
Why would any Christian group want to help approve the building of a mosque …ANYWHERE?????
Do they not know what Muslims have done and are doing to Churches and Christians in Muslim lands???
Have these people forgotten their teachings about idolatrous workings?
Don’t they know that Satan is at the center of what’s happening???
If one tries to feed a mad dog…the dog will bite the hands that feeds it.
In a way I feel sorrowful for all those Muslims who have been led astray…knowing unless they repent and follow Jesus they are headed for that awful LAKE OF FIRE. God is shedding tears!
George says
Because they havn’t read the quran. So easy to google it + read a few pages, that’s all it takes to understand them.
balam says
Muslims in their countries lake Pakistan destroy the Christian Churches and blow them up like at Peshawar in Pakistan where 85 Christians were murdered during the Church service. Recently.a two and half years old Christian girl was raped by a Muslim man.Such crimes against the poor Christians are a daily occurrence but no body seems to care.It seems that the Churches in the WEST are the worst ENEMIES of Christians at large.The are like WOLVES n sheep’s clothing.Soon,BRITAIN could turn into ISLAMIC CALIPHATE!!!!
blitz2b says
The Church of England knows it is a losing battle. Any Church that loses it’s spinal cord has absolutely no connection to the brain… It is a dead organization of cultural Christianity…. Plain and simple.
I bet you any money, when… and I repeat “when” not “if” UK finally submits to Islam, the Church of England will be the first to surrender it’s doctrines to the lie of Islam, wait just a couple of decades and we shall see this utterly useless heretic Church blend seamlessly into Islam and maintain its national status of the official religious institute of England….
The Church of England to The Ummah of England.
I’m just waiting to see what will become of the royal family… Will they take the easy route and capitulate to Islam, (Prince Charles already secretly has probably) or will they exile?
Oh what horrors await Europe, and the spineless Europeans. Death and dhimmitude are only inevitable now…
Sons of Liberty says
Exactly, blitz2b !
balam says
Very well put!!!!
BC says
Chritstians will be destroyed through their naivete
Kay says
Will this be only for Muslims?
boakai ngombu says
eventually
LeftisruiningCanada says
Of course.
Looks from young muslim men can actually kill.
DragarOz says
The “Church” is gone already anyway, they know this, so they cuddle with the “devil”.
St. George is rolling over in his tomb!
Sons of Liberty says
I agree DragarOz ! Christians are ignoring the Gospel and are so eager to have an evil ideology (Islam) become dominant in their society ! Jesus said ,… I AM ….THE WAY , THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE ,….NOT Muhammad ,….a false cult creator doing the work of the Father of LIES !
gravenimage says
Many Christians just don’t realize that Islam is evil.
Sons of Liberty says
Agreed gravenimage ,…I come up against this disbelief in my church too often .
gravenimage says
Sadly true, SoL.
Bee Mills says
See Gavin Ashenden, he was a bishop to the Queen in the U.K. and resigned over the capitulation of the Church of England to all that is non biblical. He does a daily short service video on Facebook, a writer, and a true Christian. A very interesting man to be respected.
balam says
Mohammad could have said ‘ I AM THE DITCH,DECEIT AND DEATH and no body could get to the SATAN except through me. Allah hu Akbar!!!
Jayell says
I’ve recently been told that England used to have a proper English martyr called St. Edmund as a patron saint until William the Conqueror turned up and demanded that we import this character from somewhere around Turkey who was having trouble with his mother-in-law and needed asbestos armour. Bring back St. Edmund!
gravenimage says
Jayell, there’s nothing wrong with St. George–and this was not Turkey at the time, but Anatolia, which had been Christian for centuries.
And St. Edmund has not gone away, either:
St Edmund, Original Patron Saint of England
https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Edmund-original-Patron-Saint-of-England/
And–small matter, but it was not William the Conqueror who adopted St. George as patron saint of England, but Edward III.
There was a small effort about ten years ago to reinstate St. Edmund to this former role.
WPM says
I wonder how much Saudi money found its way into the “Church of England” collection plates to make this “miracle” happen?
jayell says
Now, that’s a thought! The C of E made a bit of a mess of their considerable investments some years ago, so it’s not completely impossible that that the Saudis or (even worse) the Qataris jumped in to be ‘helpful’ – or something like that – just like I seem to recall Qatar did when the Royal Establishment (or was it the Government?) ran short of funds to repair one of their castles or palaces some years ago. And we all know how these wonderful people just love to be charitable with their vast resources just for the sake of it, and (of course) without so much as a hint of islamo-imperialist ulterior motives. Look at how they all rushed to help the Syrian refugees!!
PS – I wonder if there was any financial investment into Rotherham Council from somewhere a few thousand miles south of Dover over the last 20 or so years? And talking about the south coast, I believe that a wealthy muslim gentlemen is about to ‘save’ Hastings Pier for posterity, completely out of regard for British cultural heritage, of course. But, for the first time in its history, he’s going to ban dogs because “they might suddenly bark and cause children to fall into the sea”. That’s a verbatim quote!!!!
Spiro says
Saudi money
Oh enough to pay for it plus a few million extra
Church of England is done
Margaret R says
Either that, or the citizens of Britain will end up footing the bill. Very foolish of those who appoved the building of this mosque!
gravenimage says
I don’t think most of these dhimmi tools have been bribed–I think they consider themselves broadminded in reaching out to Muslims. Most of them are in denial about the threat of Islam.
LeftisruiningCanada says
There is a big divide coming for Christians everywhere i think.
Two groups – one, like this latest batch of possibly willfully ignorant soft lefties, who will go with the flow of the world while betraying Biblical and rational standards, another who will be drawn towards those very things.
The true church has always been in the minority, always pressured and persecuted.
There is nothing to fear. Keep your eyes on Christ. He leads His own as He see fits.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
+1
infidel numero uno says
It appears the UK church leaders are suicidal and have a death wish for the entire country. They should be booted unceremoniously from their high perches and replaced with persons who can recognize the profound, monumental threat of the death cult, aka izlaam, to the nation’s history and culture.
Save Europe says
It is the SAME with every Leftard Globalist involved in any Church/Synagogue in the West – just like Pope Franny. They have transferred their Left Wing leanings into their sermons and rhetoric. Let me also add – I’m not saying every person in a Church or Synagogue is of the same mindset.
Save Europe says
As an aetheist I’m glad to admit that Islam is the ONLY supposed religion which is the greatest danger to the non Muslim world. However, I’d like to see both practicing Christians and Jews calling out these traitors who head various Churches etc and holding their appeasement of Islam to account.
WESTPAC Spy says
Would you like me to CC you any future correspondence I have with the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops? I’ve been getting rather salty, reminding them that when they lie down with dogs they get up with fleas.
Which is really an insult to dogs as most dogs aren’t the mutts they’re lying down with. The “sheikh” of Al Azhar? Puhlease.
But I can CC you on any future correspondence.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I for one would find that interesting, WESTPAC Spy.
gravenimage says
So would I.
KJW says
This is directed to JawsV. I’m an atheist and saying that I’m as nutty as Muslims but not violent is preposterous and also an insult to ex-Muslim atheists who have often had their lives threatened and lose their families and communities if they don’t hide it. Go watch the Masked Arab You Tube channel and Hanafi Abdel Samad.
Atheism is not a religion…the a means away from theism. Atheists come in different stripes because they have different world views despite the commonality of not believing in invisible gods and deities, and hence not ghosts, jinn, psychics, etc. Likewise, I don’t believe in divine revelations but explain them in the man made inspiration way.
Leftist atheists who coddle Islam must be dumb as all heck. I have heard them bash Christianity, especially white male Christians, which is pretty stupid since most religious blacks are Christians as well as Hispanics and in Mexican culture the husband is dominant as I see with my Pueblo, Mexican neighbors. Islam is like Christian fundamentalism on steroids but also have more in common with Muslims-one guy said to me that Christian men want Christian sharia. I had to give him a big list of sharia rules. Anyway, it’s hypocritical, dumb leftist atheists. It’s rather pathetic…that’s how addled leftists’minds are only to be out-addled by homosexual leftists welcoming Muslim refugees who think homosexuality should be illegal.
Sons of Liberty says
KJW , Your statement….” Islam is like Christian fundamentalism on steroids ” …SHOWS how VERY LITTLE you know about … Christ and his LOVE ! Christ died on the cross FOR SINNERS …LIKE ME …and you ! He paid for our sins !…. Islam …..HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT CHRIST PREACHED to ALL about LOVE and FORGIVENESS ! LEARN SOMETHING about the LAMB OF GOD before posting something like what you POSTED .
John Hopwood says
Chatter, intellectual or otherwise, doesn’t address the expanding invasion of the UK by the obvious evil of islam and construction of another terrorist centre.
It’s not just the mosque development, its what goes with it as far as local residents are concerned.
Call to prayer annoyance, the Adhan. Both the noise and the content: “Allah is the greatest (Allahu akbar). I testify that there is no God but Allah (Ashhadu anna la ila ill Allah). I testify that Mohammed is Allah’s Prophet (Ashhadu anna Muhammadan rasul Allah). Come to prayer (Hayya alas salah). Come to security/salvation. Allah is the greatest (Allahu akbar). There is no God but Allah (La ilah ill Allah)”.
“Allahu akbar” means “Allah is greatest” or “Allah is greater ” — presumably meaning than other deities.
Mosque will bring Influx of muslems and commercial activities with resultant devaluation in property values.
Increase in Gang Rapes and Grooming. Look at the rest of the country.
Spill over prayers in the surrounding streets with the same streets also blocked for Iftar celebrations.
Parking. What provisions for parking. Those muslems late for prayer are commonly known to simply abandon their vehicle in the middle of the surrounding streets.
Where is the construction funding coming from? Is it the Muslem Brotherhood terrorist organization which the mosque will obviously be associated with?
Let’s do focus on the real issues here.
Chand says
“Why does a wasp lay its eggs into a worm? Darwin would tell us that the wasps that just happened to do so many eons ago just happened survived and the behavior continued or so it is presumed. Hardly a proof against Creationism…………..”
But what other explanation is there apart from GOD ‘directed the wasp’? What Darwin showed was that a natural explanation can also equally work here, without the need for a divine one.
JawsV says
This is directed to KJW: My comment was to Eddie, not you. So you can tuck in your ruffled feathers.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Leftist atheists are capable of being every bit as religious as any devout muslim.
A convinced Marxist believes in many things for which he has no evidence, is sure that a force greater than himself is in control of history, and awaits with absolute certainty the eventual, inevitable, creation of a New Man in an earthly paradise.
Oh yes, it’s a religion alright.
And it’s this evil religion, along with islam, that is struggling for dominance over the still foundationally Christian West.
Brian hoff says
trump stole the election with russian help. There was no massive voteing fraud than ideas of the criminal far rightwing who believe this lie..
JawsV says
Shut up, Muslim, the former “defender of islam” on this site. Try and get yourself a grade school certificate.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
Brian hoff, Trump won by divine intervention and the only people working with the Russians were the DNC. Hilary alone made 145 million selling enriched America uranium that was destined to Iran. There was massive voter fraud, democrats allowed illegals to vote for God’s sake and cheated in places like California etc.
Sons of Liberty says
Brian hoff ,….WHY ? would Putin want Donald Trump to be POTUS ? Trump SAID he was going to BUILD UP the US MILITARY and EXPAND the US ECONOMY ! He has followed through on those promises ! Only a moron would think that Putin wanted Trump over Hillary ! Hillary (AND OBAMA)..who WAS GIVING HIM EVERYTHING HE WANTED ,.including 20% of the United States URANIUM reserves was the PERFECT PATSY ! Brian hoff , WHY ? did the Democrats SHUT DOWN the RECOUNTS in Michigan , Wisconsin and Pennsylvania in late 2016 ??? Because it was SHOWING THE VOTER FRAUD THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE by the Democrats .
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Far right”?
ha, don’t make me laugh. You discredit yourself with this one phrase alone.
gravenimage says
I see “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIlsam”–is babbling again…
LeftisruiningCanada says
Like Ib It Mo, he seems to thrive on hit and run tactics.
At least the former occasionally bothers to reply.
JW_Reader says
I am an atheist too. But, I appreciate many good teachings of Christianity. Judaism, though not violent, shares many ill ideologies of Islam. In fact, one way to challenge the spread of Islam in the west is to encourage Christians to have more children. Particularly, Christian women should have children at an early age, even if they have to give up the child for adoption, hopefully to Christian families. Christianity should be actively promoted and that will probably keep Islam from being dominant.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
JW_Reader – are you serious?? So you want to force 13-14-16 year olds’, to have babies without love or future and have them give up someone that is growing inside of them to strangers??? That sounds like Marxism where the state is more important than the individual. You would love to see breeding farms, am I right.
Everything you said goes against the Christian doctrine of love between a man and women to grow a family. Young girls are not breeding animals but humans that have a right to an education and a right to determine their own goals. You sound like you think that the muslim way of using girls and women as breeding cows is the way to go. Just look to islamic countries to see how well that turns out. If Christian men and women, who wanted to have more babies, could afford to have babies, they could do that on their own without the help of human incubators. Sadly most tax dollars are going to the breeding cows of islam through welfare.
WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS TO CLOSE THE BORDERS AND BAN THE NAZIS CULT OF ISLAM. DEPORT ALL WHO FOLLOW THIS FEMALE HATING CULT AND TAKE OUR COUNTRIES BACK. We do not need to over populate and force young girls to have babies like breeding cows. We do not need to import uneducated low IQs to handle growth in the west. Especially since most do not work but only collect welfare. Money should be put into technology which can handle growth better than muslim invaders.
Do you not consider women and girls as human beings??? What you are saying is that atheist, according to you, consider that females have no value except as breeding animals. You are not an atheist but a mohammedan, mohammedans hate women and girls it is the foundation of their religion. Get the hell out of the civilized world you do not belong here. You are so evil you actually scare me.
gravenimage says
+1
JW_Reader says
You are all riled up for nothing! Where did I say, 14-15 years old girls need to be mom? I do not believe any girl should be a mother before they finish college given the physical and emotional demands of motherhood. But, again that is just my opinion. Every individual have their own mind and instinct and that is what they should follow. You do not really need to follow anything I say, if you do not like it.
About being a Christian or an atheist, it is totally up to an individual. Religion is largely based on belief rather than logic. Whenever I see a church for physicist, I wonder what did I miss! I am happy the way I am.
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
“Christian women should have children at an early age, even if they have to give up the child for adoption,”
You did say early age, by putting in the ages I am asking a question. Also how would said young women have children at an early age to give up for adoption??? That statement implies all kinds of crap.
You are right about atheism being a belief system which like islam lacks a moral compass.
WESTPAC Spy says
As a Christian I’m the last one who wants to pee in your cornflakes. But I need to point out that as a Christian the God of the New Testament is the God of the Tanakh, or Hebrew Bible. I wish I could sit down and talk with you. And no it wouldn’t be an ambush “Here’s my testimony, now accept Jesus!” It’s just a fact that Christians often have issues with what APPEARS to be differences between New and Old Testament teachings. It’s a bedrock principle of our faith that God does not change. Yet it looks like He does. And it there were no sane, rational way of resolving those differences I’d be an atheist too.
Or, rather, a deist like Einstein. If you wanted to make Einstein angry, call him an atheist. On the other hand, he considered the God of the Bible a children’s fable. His views on God were complicated.
But that’s a story for another day. And Islam is whole nuther breed of cat.
JawsV says
Please don’t insult cats. They have nothing to do with Islam. Dogs, either. Both feline and canine are far superior to the human idiots who follow a piece of cr** religion.
As for Einstein, the Bible is not a “children’s fable.” That’s ridiculous! He should stick to physics.
WESTPAC Spy says
You atheists ought to appreciate what a huge gift we Christians are to you. Not only will we drop off a few votive candles and a box of matches the nights the lights go out, we can explain Muslim. Which provides a huge intelligence advantage that Imams Merkel, Obama, Kerry, Bush, Blair, Cameron, etc., couldn’t give you. Some of these people walked around calling themselves Christian, but if they don’t understand what’s in their own book, how can you expect them to understand what’s in someone else/s book? So naturally they fell back on their true socialist principle. The Muslims were just angry about limited education, jobs, and child care access. If only we opened up a few more Mickey Ds paying a $15 min wage in Lahore or Damascus or Baghdad or Cairo or Tripoli with those child play centers all would be well. The whole f***ing problem would disappear.
R U kidding me? Ask a Christian. I can tell you what it’s about.
Now can we cut out the BS about the cakes?
Boston Tea Party says
You know, it’s one thing to say “yes, we live in a pluralistic society with freedom of religion, and we have to peacefully accept that people we disagree with have a right to their beliefs.”
It’s quite another thing to say “We Christians celebrate and enthusiastically support the propagation of the idea that Christianity is a lie and that Jesus was really not the son of God, and that He didn’t die for our sins.”
gravenimage says
And, moreover, that Christians can be oppressed and murdered…
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“You know, it’s one thing to say “yes, we live in a pluralistic society with freedom of religion, and we have to peacefully accept that people we disagree with have a right to their beliefs.””
Truth of the matter is, religious toleration should be conditional. It should be extended only to those who extended it to others. Mohammadism fails monumentally at this. To put it as Geert Wilders put it, “don’t be so tolerant that you tolerate intolerance.”
Sons of Liberty says
+1 ,….At the beginning of the 8th Century AD , the MIDDLE EAST was 95% CHRISTIAN ! All the countries of the Middle East TODAY …ARE MUSLIM with the exception being Israel ! It didn’t take long from the 630’s AD to put the boot of Islam on the necks of people …or should I say the SWORD OF ISLAM. Africa and Europe are next !
Susan B is getting really mad@# says
Sons of Liberty, Africa was conquered by islam and muslims were the slavers, there were only l million Catholics left in Africa in 1900 after the convert or die and rape jihad of islam. There are now over 600 million Christians in Africa, all ex muslims. Muslims have been having visions and dreams of Jesus and have experienced his miracles and love. This is happening all over the islamic world and was foretold in the Bible.
Acts 2.:17
“In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people; your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on My servants, both men and women, I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy.…”
Jesus is in charge; of that you can be sure and islam will be destroyed.
somehistory says
Before long, reports out of the U.K. will be exactly like reports out of pakistan
“A Christian couple, chased by a moslim mob and when caught, thrown alive onto the bonfire.” The crime: blasphemy against what’s-his unworthiness and his fake prophet. The couple said they didn’t say a word, but the government sided with the moslim mob and approved of the burning.”
“Shop belonging to Christian man set on fire with the owner and his family inside. moslim mob claimed the Christian had torn a koran and stepped on the page. Government investigated an found the man guilty of the hate crime, absolving the moslim mob of responsibility.”
These accounts are fiction, but based on actual storeis from pakistan. Soon, they will be the real thing in the U.K. and the “leaders” of the “church” will share in the bloodguilt. Bowing to the beast will bring only death and destruction of the innocent.
That is, only until the Judgement that is coming. The bloodguilty will then have to face what they have done.
Terry Cotter says
Why resort to fiction when there are so many facts just as horrific with photo, video and witnesses as proof?
gravenimage says
Terry, this is *not* fiction.
“Pakistan: Court frees 20 Muslims suspected of burning Christian couple alive in industrial kiln for ‘blasphemy’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/pakistan-court-frees-20-muslims-suspected-of-burning-christian-couple-alive-in-industrial-kiln-for-blasphemy
This story was reported by the Associated Press–they are a respected source. They are not the only source.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Sadly true.
It’s hard to create a fictional story, no matter how horrible or gruesome, that has not played out for real in Pakistan.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, LeftisruiningCanada.
KJW says
You’re very correct, I pay attention to Pakistan news. The false or unproven blasphemy accusations have gotten bad enough that rather than get rid of the blasphemy laws they’ve proposed a false accuser be punished. That wouldn’t have helped the student who was killed by fellow students with no proof that he blasphemized. It appears from his Facebook he was not religious but ‘love everybody’ type stuff, no insults of Islam. The OIC will keep pushing for universal blasphemy laws and these feckless and reckless church people in the article will go right along with that. A one-world government idea is to agree on universal human rights-rights that religions can agree on. Remember how Obama said [there will be a time] when the Prophet won’t be criticized. I guess Obama, et al are pro Abdullah. The ease of being mad at someone and falsely accusing them is dangerous since the mob mentality is pretty strong in many Islamic countries. The most disgusting case you can watch in YT is a mob of ordinary Afghan men in Kabul tearing apart a woman who was wearing a black abaya so she must have been more religious as it’s not forced in Afghanistan in non-Taliban places. It is very horrific. I recall in England a couple of years ago an ex-Muslim convert to Christianity was kneed with a pickaxe by someone who knew of the family, the only issue being he was now Christian. In refugee centers there have been fights between different religions and Islamic sects, and of course Sunnis are dominant. We’re seeing the degradation of Europe and elsewhere. England has about 4,000 mosques and it’s the are of New York State. Some stockpile weapons and in the US too. They won’t be able to control the mobs.
tim gallagher says
More of the idiocy from church leaders who appear to know absolutely nothing about Islam’s evil, violent nature. The tolerance is always one way. Pathetic sellout merchants like the Pope. They seem so ignorant about Islam. Do they know anything at all about the slaughter and oppression of Christians in so many Muslim countries? Do they keep up with the news in the real world at all? If I want to get a Christian perspective on Islam from someone who has a very good knowledge of Islam’s nature, then I’ll listen to Robert Spencer not fools like these church leaders. They may know about other subjects but not about Islam. I mentioned a while back the Christian pacifist mindset, where some Christians seem to believe that all that being a Christian involves is endlessly turning the other cheek and being a complete doormat. It’s very dangerous. I mentioned the quote I came across in Paul Johnson’s “A History of the Modern World from 1917 to the 1980’s” because I found it so dangerously idiotic that I’ve never forgotten it. In the 1930’s, when Hitler was re-arming there was a debate going on in Britain about whether to re-arm, and he mentions, “The Reverend Donald Soper (Methodist) argued, “Pacifism contains a spiritual force strong enough to repel an invader.” (P350). Such a ridiculous attitude. An insane attitude really. I wonder if this is the type of complete doormat mentality these church leaders have. You know, just turn the other cheek and cave in all the time. Their attitude could well result in them, and us, being oppressed or killed as Christians are in many Muslim countries. They need to wake up.
mortimer says
The Church of England should be spending its energy on trying to deprogram Muslims out of Islam and evangelize them into the Church of England.
For a starter, they should ensure that every Muslim in the UK has a New Testament.
Billy Chickens says
Mortimer,
Since moslems don’t like women, they won’t convert to a religion with women leaders. The C of E is trying too hard to be friendly and nice to moslems, not convert them, because they think every religion is equal. And what NT should the C of E give to moslems? One with gender equality?
Chris Malan says
The Muslims should feel right at home in the C of E. Its founder had several of his wives heads chopped off.
JawsV says
You’re referring to Henry 8 back in the 16th century. The 16th century. 2 wives to be exact. It shouldn’t have happened. However, the Moslems were beheading way back in the 7th century. Muhammad beheaded hundreds of Jews in a single night. The Church of England has nothing to do with Henry 8’s horrible beheading of 2 innocent wives. So no, the Moslems won’t feel at home. They’re still beheading today. Have you noticed? Just can it with your snarky comment.
Kay says
+1
Go therefore and preach the gospel . . .
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes Mortimer, answering islam and evangelizing the muslims should be their main priority at the moment, no doubt about it.
Some do that, but the CoE is renowned for it’s lefty leaderships worship at the alter of political correctness.
Holger kruger says
“This will be a significant investment in the city we all share….
Into we will go die at the muslims sword.
Jay says
This is complete insanity!
England is lost! Churchill would not recognize England today !
I pray this doesn’t backfire on the English prople who probably have no say in the matter.
Let’s hope it doesn’t happen in the USA more than it already has!!
Close the borders ! Go Trump 2020
Ecosse1314 says
Don”t you worry Calufirnia will remain safe.
Baucent says
These naive clerics seem to have forgotten all about the writings of St Paul (probably never read) where he repeated warns about the dangers of “false teachers”. By inviting the teaching presence of another religion into their community they would appear to be aiding “wolves” who will one day steal their flock. Something they will have to one day answer to the Head Shepherd for.
Terry Cotter says
First up, what does H.M. The Queen, the head of the Church of England have to say about this? Is it official Anglican Church rhetoric or just the rantings of a few weak links? As an Anglican it concerns me that ‘we’ are pushing a completely alien belief whose teachings denigrate Christianity and whose intent is to eliminate it, if necessary, in the most violent, barbaric and cruel manner. My attitude is to tolerate others beliefs. ‘Forgive them as they know no better.’ Assist them to see the light but don’t push it on them. Forced following is not belief. We hear what a peace loving religion Islam is but see no evidence of this but instead obvious evidence to the contrary. Islam is followed in a wide spectrum of countries from little more (if any) than savages to quite sophisticated. What we are seeing indicates Europe is currently suffering the bottom of the barrel. If Islam is even worth consideration the top end need to pull these, nothing more that criminals into line.
tim gallagher says
Terry, as you say, Islam is “a completely alien belief whose teachings denigrate Christianity and whose intent is to eliminate it” which says it all. Islam is the enemy of Christianity and all other non-Muslim religions. These church leaders, these pathetic doormats, are supporting a creed, Islam, which I believe is the complete opposite of Christianity in every way. They are supporting a clear enemy of Christianity, yet they are meant to be working for the Christian cause. I am tolerant towards Buddhism, Judaism, etc because I believe Christianity can get along quite well with those religions. No way will I be tolerant of Islam because I see it as evil and a clear enemy of the Christianity I believe in. I see Islam as being about as evil as Nazism. Baucent’s comment, just above, about St Paul and “false teachers” resonates with me. St Paul had strong convictions, these church leaders in this report are so wishy washy. They are pathetic. I believe all of Islam is the “bottom of the barrel”. There’s nothing good about any of it so far as I can see.
SAE says
It takes a special kind of lunatic leader to think that importing welfare recipients that want to kill you is a good idea.
Billy Chickens says
Mortimer,
Since moslems don’t like women, they won’t convert to a religion with women leaders. The C of E is trying too hard to be friendly and nice to moslems, not convert them, because they think every religion is equal. And what NT should the C of E give to moslems? One with gender equality?
Anne Smith says
I note that one of the Church of England spokesmen said that the development would also provide facilities for women to pray. In other words they are facilitating segregation and the continuing treatment of women as second class Muslims. However this does not seem to have bothered the smug virtue signalling C of E idiots who do not understand that they are being manipulated quite skilfully.
Kay says
They are betraying their own values, including lying about God who knows women can pray everywhere.
gravenimage says
Important point, Anne. *Ugh*.
Yaffle says
Until now, Worcester has been one of the few English cities without a highly visible Islamic presence. Obviously that can’t be allowed to continue. ?
kouldb says
The UK has fallen. Especially Britain. It’s over for them. They’ve been sold out to the last square km by successive politicians & their cronies. The only thing I can suggest to the British people is to come & join us here in Australia. Where we still have some freedoms. Just do us all a favour & leave your leftist mindsets back in the UK.
Chris Malan says
Yes, there are already more than enought leftist mindsets in Australia. Australia is a very politically correct country.
DragarOz says
When China invades we should all stand at the border to the west and stop all lefties from entering. This is the future of Australia, it will be the west, south and north. The east will be a Chinese state very soon. mark my words!
At least they will be able to stand tall and say “at least I was not a racist!”
idiots!
gravenimage says
Demanding that Infidels cede Britain to Muslim invaders is *not* helping.
Anne Smith says
Well its all set to continue in city after city as long as we have this imbecile as our Prime Minister.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGnW5L6Vf64
Billy Chickens says
Unbelievable!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ugh, what a cringe worthy display of simpering appeasement and disingenuous flattery.
“Oh hamduallah for our generous and most excellent Muslims, how gratefully we welcome and kneel before our new Islamic overlords!”
DragarOz says
Contribution to your national life!? WTF
positive contribution!?
NAME ONE!
gravenimage says
Muslims are certainly contributing to the massive crime rate…
Gjallarhornet says
The absurdities here are astronomical. The Church of England backing a 3 million pound giant mosque is like seeing Amnesty International spending millions of dollars constructing a public torture chamber in Piccadilly Circus.
Chris Malan says
The C of E has already come out strongly in favour of homosexual marriage. This love for Islam is also not a new thing. What next? Paedophilia?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Let’s not get carried away Chris….they havn’t even tackled accepting polygamy or atheist priests yet.
Indiana Tom says
Members of the Church of England clergy in Worcester East Deanery backed the bid for the contemporary building on Stanley Road in a letter to association general secretary Mohammed Iqbal.
This is exactly the problem.
Steven says
mosque?….. it looked like a nuclear facility or reactor to me
LeftisruiningCanada says
It will certainly be producing a great deal of heat, whatever they want to call it.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I think i said that twice?
Steven says
mosque?… it looked like a nuclear facility or reactor to me
LeftisruiningCanada says
It will certainly be producing a great deal of heat, whatever they want to call it.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I think i said that twice?
John B Sears says
We’re hastening to place fuel on our own funeral pyre. It’s not only Whales who ‘mass suicide’!!
And who pray, gave these ‘authorities’ permission to ‘act in our name’ with no consultation??.
james c a reid says
When are the Muslims going to let Christian Churches be built in their Lands? What a load of pathetic cr*p!! Their “Bible” calls for the subjugation, enslavement, rape & murder of EVERYBODY who is not of the Muslim “faith”. The next time these church people meet up with their Muslim counterparts, ask them what is the “Golden Rule” of Islam? To help them out, the Christian Faith’s “Golden Rule” is: “Thou shalt not kill.”
Politicianophobia says
They have turned their back’s on God.
Giacomo Latta says
We have met Islam’s fifth column in its war with the West and the latter’s non-death-obsessed values, and it is Western religions. They are oh so afraid to lose their special status and special tax-exemptions that they will defend religion instead of values. Of course, given their own lack of values there is not much they can teach us from their tax-free platform.
Pere LaChaise says
Reminds me of what I saw outside Detroit, where a Bulgarian Orthodox church stood across a large empty lot from an Armenian Apostolic church. Both churches were large and well-appointed but neither would invest in the purchase of the vacant lot between them. So guess who did buy it? Of course the moslems bought it and built a large impressive mosque on it. So now the thre houses of worship stand as testimony to the opportunism of whily mohammadens agaisnt divided Christians.
LeftisruiningCanada says
That’s very unpleasant actually.
They can’t help but insert themselves into other people’s lives and start making noise. They are clearly looking for a fight, knowing that their gang will stick together more than ours. If they are wrong?
Whine about racism and injustice.
Politicianophobia says
Eddie, I am not bat shit crazy, I shall not read any of your offensive posts in the future. Learn some manners and do try to stand up straight–you have a left lean.
JawsV says
Exactly!
Jay says
The article does not indicate the city or church are paying for the mosque. So who is paying? Certainly not the moslems.
LeftisruiningCanada says
““This will be a significant investment in the city we all share….”
Oh yes, in more ways than one the whole town and country will be sharing the ‘benefits”…
UNCLE VLADDI says
Here’s AN UNPOPULAR TRUTH:
Our freedom of association right is a choice extortionist conformist gangster criminal slavers (aka libertine “liberals”) are trying to forcefully take away from us.
It’s obviously at least 13X cheaper to take care of muslim losers in their own countries or in the adjacent Arabic-speaking islamic shiiteholes – so this “migrant” scheme must be about something else entirely. Now, what could that be?
“Multiculturalism was made up by self-loathing rat bastards to pretend that inferior cultures and superior cultures are equal. It exists to tell nice lies about rotten cultures and rotten lies about great cultures. The UN exemplifies this lie, with “Islam means peace” its biggest lie.”
– The Sheik –
As always, the world is divided into hard-working individualist Makers vs criminal gangster extortionist Takers.
Socialism is extortion.
Fascism is extortion.
Islam is extortion.
Perpetual extortion is slavery.
CAPISCE?
😉
Lazy self-hating victimology-spewing masochists always want to dilute the blame for their self-inflicted problems onto groups and gangs of other people.
Nationalism is people exercising their right to freedom of association.
Communism denies all individual human any and all rights and forces people to associate with criminal oppressors.
“Racism” shames (white) people to give up their free-association rights in order to accept criminals.
But “racism” is simply the result of generations of free-will freedom of association rights choices.
ALL people prefer to associate with those who are like them.
Without this inherent “racism” there would be NO “races!”
So the pretense that only whites are racists, could only be true if there were only two races on Earth – the white race, and everyone else (which would be a single other race, and not the Negroes, Asians, and Dravidians – ALL of whom currently outnumber the whites because they prefer to have more sex with the people like them whom they have chosen to freely associate with)!
That’s proof that the heedless delinquent libertine globalist agenda is indeed only out to destroy one race but not any of the others!
Do liberals insist there should be an invasion of whites or Asians into Africa, to dilute the Negro race, for the sake of “equality and diversity?”
No.
Do they insist hordes of Dravidians, whites, and Negros be imported into Asia, for the same fake “reasons!”?
NO.
Do they insist India should be invaded by Asians, whites, and Negroes, to dilute the Hindu Dravidians?
Again – NO!
BOTTOM LINE?
“Racism” is merely the result of people exercising their freedom of association rights.
Again: Without “racism” there would be no “races.” Thus every race is inherently “racist,” and the more populous, global majority ones obviously (from the results) are the most “racist” of them all.
Which makes the white race, which comes in at only between 7-15% (if one includes all the other members of the ‘Caucasians,’ such as Arabs and Jews) the LEAST racist race of them all!
Further, the globalist liberal “racism” scam is really the exact opposite of what it pretends to be:
it pretends to equalize the racial disparity caused by racist whites in only white countries.
Remember: whites are actually THE global minority – so liberal “anti-racists” are really insisting it’s not fair that the global minority isn’t letting the global majorities further dilute them in their own lands!
It’s obvious that freely-associated peer groups, once they attain some measure of expert authority in their chosen fields of endeavor, (whether by actual merit, or by incestuous self-promoting cronyism) will be challenged by other groups whose members are comprised of other freely-associated peer groups (or “tribes”).
But this common occurrence does not mean that the group with the power – whether held only because of its current majority (might-made-right) status, or not (as in: by merit) is any more or less “racist” or “biased” than the (supposedly minority) of newcomer group/s opposing it.
To slanderously pretend that the existing group only attained and maintains its power through the racist exclusion of others is just as faulty a lack of logic as is claiming those other groups now deserve to be in charge simply because they are in a (“poor, oppressed”) minority and/or assert, without evidence – that they have been racially discriminated against in the past, and so now demand reconciliation and reparations.
I’m talking about companies the membership of which can allegedly be regulated by the government (and I say “allegedly” because while in practice this is always being tried by legislative over-reach, in logic it really can’t be, as merit-based hiring affects the companys’ bottom lines) and/or their clients (i.e: all citizens equally, which makes sense, because everyone’s money is worth the same, and everyone who becomes a citizen and agrees to the Golden Rule equally deserves the rights thereby earned by all others who have also agreed to adhere to it’s responsibility).
Government-regulated promoting, hiring or clientele (as in: assigning the availability of university student placements) based on racial “diversity” is a crime: one which has severe financial costs to any society. It’s a crime which is already technically illegal, being “under color” (or cover) “of Law!”
mark says
Church of England leaders back bid for $4 million new building to worship satan.
LeftisruiningCanada says
pretty much yeah.
FYI says
Don’t the dhimmiwit Christians know that,apart from denying Christ, the koran CURSES Christians for believing in Jesus Christ?
koran 9:30 allah’s curse upon the Christians (and the Jews)
Coach Martin says
The Church of England produced many giants of Christianity. Bible translators and scholastic works.
The Church of England’s membership has plummetted in the last two decades.They have become irrelevant to this argument. So let’s pray for the remnants of this once proud institution.
Bill says
The church leaders have forgotten why the Crusades were formed. Do they not remember the last time Islam came to Europe? The Golden Age of Islam when Spain was forced to send 80 virgins a year to the Middle East? Imaging if your daughter had to go. They think Al Andalus is still theirs and want to reclaim it, forgetting it was Islamic armies which took it from the Spanish in the first place. I’m amazed European people have accepted Islam the way they have after their history of conquest and domination under Islam.
Gavin Boby says
My name is Gavin Boby of MosqueBuster fame. Can people please keep watch and let me know in good time when a planning application goes in, so that I can get up and fight it?
Thank you!
Gavin
Charlie Martel says
Note that the newspapers won’t allow any citizen comments!