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Audio: Robert Spencer on how the British gave us Wahhabism (and other disastrous short-sightedness)

Jul 27, 2018 12:54 pm By Robert Spencer

This morning I was on the Ross Kaminsky Show on KHOW in Denver to discuss my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS. This was one of the best discussions of the book that I’ve had so far; Kaminsky had read it carefully and had incisive questions.

Have you preordered yet? This is my best and most important book, containing information about jihad for fourteen centuries that shows that our entire foreign policy establishment (like that of the British when they aided the Wahhabis) is on the wrong track. Preorder here now.

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  1. poppey says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    All nations can make mistakes, but a century ago, was it a “mistake” for Britain and her Empire to take on and smash the Ottoman Empire which enslaved much of Europe, Jews and Christians for 1300 years ?

    Was it a “mistake” for Britain and France to break up that empire giving the people their own countries, was it also a “mistake” to set Turkey on a secular path to modernism and state the Jewish people MUST have their own state IN their ancestral homeland ?

    Yes, Britain made mistakes all right, but some were less of a mistake than others.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 4:52 pm

      Very much agree overall with your analysis, poppey.

    • Mac-101 says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 5:32 pm

      But didn’t the Brits in the 19th century support the Turks against the Russians, keepin the Balkans under Muslim rule?

      • Nabi says

        Jul 27, 2018 at 10:48 pm

        Overhyping the Brits for sure. And British actions were often haphazard, half hearted or merely incidental.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 28, 2018 at 10:56 pm

          True.

      • Roger woodhouse says

        Jul 28, 2018 at 5:45 am

        Yes they did but for strategic military reasons.Britain needed Mediteranean harbours to defend its trading routes.Also did not want Russia to increace its sphere of influence into that region.Britain never trusted the Turks though

    • BC says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 5:46 am

      It is called the wisdom of hindsight Robert, and you of all people should know it is no ‘wisdom’ at all. Even in our personal lives we all look back and say I wish I had done that differently. People and Nations react to what looks best at the time. Later they may regret it but they do not unfortunately have foresight. At least not beyond a few years or even months in a fast changing world.

    • Arauna says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 1:37 pm

      To try to give Britain good motives is totally unfounded. They ruled india and many colonies and if you look at history their rule was brural. Britain was imperialistic and took a lot of wealth from their colonies and fought wars for what they wanted.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 28, 2018 at 11:15 pm

        India was not better under Muslim rule–far worse, in fact.

        • Mac-101 says

          Jul 29, 2018 at 9:07 am

          Better for Widows though!

        • Mac-101 says

          Jul 29, 2018 at 10:04 pm

          Sorry Graven, I read it as India was NOT better under British rule. Therefore my comment regarding Settee.

  2. mortimer says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    In the 18th Century, Sheikh Muhammad Bin Wahhab was a religious leader who was adopted by the tribal leaders who later became the Saudi Royal Family. His ideas, which are a revival of the general principles of the Hanbali mahab (school) of Sharia (i.e. Muslim law) jurisprudence, hold that sharia law is based exclusively on the Koran and the Haddith (i.e. sayings of the prophet Mohamet). These ideas are commonly referred to as Wahhabism, although a more accurate description would be Salafism (following the path of the pioneers).

    At that time in the 18th Century, the Saudis launched a jihad, inspired by Wahhab, to conquer the whole Arabian Peninsula. They declared that any of their fellow Sunni Muslims who did not adhere to Wahhabism were in fact infidels, and should be killed. They would send a messenger into townships carrying a Koran in one hand, and a sword in the other.

    Wahhabism was devised in Arabia in the 18th century as a REFORMATION movement in Islam, similar in scope to the Protestant Reformation of Martin Luther. Go read about some of the massacres and slaughters committed by Wahhabis against their fellow Muslims, 250 years ago when they could get away with it. Those bigots even killed people for smoking a cigarette!

    The Saudis have spent decades and billions of dollars promoting the same Wahhabist ideology adopted by ISIS, the Taliban, Al-Queda, the Muslim Brotherhood and others terrorists of that ilk. And now they want to put on the brakes. Yeah, sure.

  3. Buraq says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    As I have written on other threads, the West’s involvement in the Middle East was like Pandora opening the box. Pandora was responsible for opening the box, but she was not responsible for the evil that already lay within.
    Similarly, the West was not responsible for the evil of Islam that was released when it invaded parts of the Middle East.

    If the West had but known …………!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 4:55 pm

      +1

    • Nabi says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 11:05 pm

      Actually, after all the real, vicious conflicts the West has no excuse for not knowing. Plenty of warnings too–even Marco Polo singled out Islam as the most horrific threat.

    • Roger woodhouse says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 6:04 am

      Winston Churchill was very aware of the backwardness of Islam when he remarked on it in his account of his time reporting from the Sudan in 1898 in hisbook River wars.Like the British at that time had no need to fear it, successive generations since also chose to ignore it.The British do what the British always do.Bury their heads !They ignored Churchill’s warnings of Hitler till it was too late.They will do the same about Islam today with precisely the same result!

  4. Ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Mr spencer, are you aware that Abdulwahhab was a Jew from Turkey who settled at Najd (in Saudi Arabia) and conspired with British Sa’ud family to revive the perverted khawariji takfiri ideology to justify fighting muslim caliphate of ottoman Turks by the Arabs for Britain to colonise Muslim world? Later, when oil was discovered, evil United States took over the conspiracy to spread this cancerous ideology. so, the evil wahhabi ideology is the creation of mithraist christian west to divide and conquer Muslim world. wicked scums of evils!!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 5:09 pm

      The ludicrous Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      Mr spencer, are you aware that Abdulwahhab was a Jew from Turkey who settled at Najd (in Saudi Arabia) and conspired with British Sa’ud family to revive the perverted khawariji takfiri ideology to justify fighting muslim caliphate of ottoman Turks by the Arabs for Britain to colonise Muslim world?
      …………………………….

      Where to start? No Jews lived in Saudi Arabia. Abd al-Wahhab, far from being Jewish, was born to a family of Islamic jurists.

      Wahhabism is just orthodox Islam. Note that Ibrahim itace muhammed has never once said what it is he disagrees with in Wahhabism–because there is nothing. He just considers the Saudis a rival gang to his own.

      He has also never said why if Wahhabism is actually Judaism that so many millions of pious Muslims have embraced it. Of course, this is absurd.

      Moreover, Abd al-Wahhab died in 1792. The British had no presence in Saudi Arabia in the 18th century, so the idea that Wahhabism was some sort of Jewish-British plot makes even less sense than it would otherwise.

      And no–the Saud family is Muslim Arab, not British.

      Of course, this has all been pointed out to Ibrahim itace muhgammed many times–but what do pious Muslims care about logic and facts?

      More:

      Later, when oil was discovered, evil United States took over the conspiracy to spread this cancerous ideology. so, the evil wahhabi ideology is the creation of mithraist christian west to divide and conquer Muslim world. wicked scums of evils!!
      …………………………….

      What tripe. And the Islamic world had no way of creating wealth before the discovery of oil. Certainly, the backward Mohammedans had no idea what it might be used for.

      Ibrahim itace muhammed has affirmed that Muslims just want to enslave Infidels to create wealth. Good luck with that these days, Ibby.

      • Terry Gain says

        Jul 27, 2018 at 7:24 pm

        The backward Muslims couldn’t even get the black gold out of the ground. They had to rely upon Christian nations to do that. The technologicallly incompetent Muslims never thanked us for improving their lives but instead decided to use their oil revenues to make war on us. This is the very definition of scum.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 27, 2018 at 7:43 pm

          True, Terry.

      • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

        Jul 28, 2018 at 3:00 am

        liar Gravenimage, Mr spencer is saying British did conspired with Abdulwahhab to spread his obnoxious ideology as Propaganda tool to justify fighting muslim caliphate of ottoman Turks. Britain need not be physically present in Saudi Arabia to do the dirty game. Ignorant fool!!

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 28, 2018 at 11:24 pm

          What utter crap–Robert Spencer says not such thing. Why is Ibrahim itace muhammed’s reading comprehension so terribly poor?

          Abd al-Wahhab live over a century before the end of the Ottoman Empire.

  5. gravenimage says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 4:49 pm

    Audio: Robert Spencer on how the British gave us Wahhabism (and other disastrous short-sightedness)
    ……………………

    Actually, it was Islam that gave us Wahhabism, albeit some British policies may not have helped.

    • Mac-101 says

      Jul 27, 2018 at 5:35 pm

      Well said. Just another British/Globalist tool using divide and conquer/control that the Brits used so successfully in the 19th and early 20th century.

  6. infidel says

    Jul 27, 2018 at 10:59 pm

    I distinctly remember a scene from the movie “Lawrence of Arabia”.. where the Arabs go berserk after Baghdad falls from the hands of the mad Turks. There are scenes in the movie where the barbaric Arabs just run around in the parliament in Baghdad and jump on top of benches like monkeys and ransack all the paperwork on top of them and then one of the British officers who is present there there looks at Lawrence with resignation and remarks… “Charming company U keep Lawrence..”

    • Mike Larkin says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 11:27 am

      That was Damascus, not Baghdad. Damascus was taken by Australian Light Horse units, who then passed through in pursuit of the fleeing Turkish and German troops.

      Baghdad was taken by elements of the British and King’s Indian Armies, and Lawrence and his arabs were nowhere near it.

      • Brian hoff says

        Jul 28, 2018 at 11:23 pm

        So the British took Baghdad the Ottoman cut off the British supply lines and surround then.

  7. infidel says

    Jul 28, 2018 at 12:16 am

    Filipino President Duterte CAPITULATES to radical Islam… The same fate of balkanisation awaits the Greater West and revisited second time on India…Why did he do it?? Why??

    https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Duterte-signs-law-to-create-Islamic-autonomous-region

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 12:50 am

      Thanks for the link. Yes–a lot of people seem to think that the thuggish Duterte is a tough guy, but he is only tough on drug addicts. He has appeased Islam many times, and this latest will just make things even worse.

    • WPM says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 7:18 am

      So Duterte has agree to have that part of the Philippines run under Sharia law according to the article .Will al the non-Moslems in that area have to sell their house for next to nothing and move out ,or live in third class citizenship under Sharia law? Will America be expecting Christian refugees from that region in the near future?

    • Brian hoff says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 11:20 pm

      in the South China sea China took over than Philippine island by force. China is builting man make islands in the south china sea on which they built airbase and military bases to control the area.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 28, 2018 at 11:47 pm

        Islam, not China, is taking over there.

  8. John Forbes says

    Jul 28, 2018 at 9:11 am

    THE BRITISH HAVE A STRANGE PROPENSITY FOR ISLAM & THE ARAB WORLD!
    THE ELITES HAVE A ISLAMOPHHILE VIEW THAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND & STOMACH ACTUALLY.
    THE LEFT HAVE VERY SKILLFULLY GOT WESTERNERS TO BELIEVE THAT ISLAM MUST BE TREATED AS A RACE SO THAT ANY CRITICISM IS AKIN TO BEING A RACIST!
    THIS HAS LED TO THE WESTERN GOVERNMENTS TO SET OUT TO PROTECT ISLAM FROM INSPECTION OR CRITICISM & TO ENACT BLASPHEMY LAWS!
    ISLAM IS ACTUALLY VERY DANGEROUS & SEEKS TOTAL SUBJUGATION OF ALL WHEREBY THE CHOICES ARE – CONVERT , PAY THE SECOND CLASS CITIZEN TAX OR DIE!

    • Mac-101 says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 12:05 pm

      Perhaps ALL the buggery in those Elite boarding Schools make THEM appreciate the Muslims and their desire for young boys with the complexion of Pearls!

  9. Brian hoff says

    Jul 28, 2018 at 10:52 pm

    trump is in legal touble for verbal and on twitter attacking the special procurator continued. It call occlusion justice. trump is loseing support inside the government. When I was faceing serious fenory chare I follow the adivor of my lawyer keep my mount shut and let him do the talking an donot presonal attack the DA.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 28, 2018 at 11:50 pm

      “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–has faced serious felony charges?

      Why does this no surprise?

    • Mac-101 says

      Jul 29, 2018 at 9:09 am

      If he does NOT step up his attack he will be completely neutered and powerless!
      .
      Sessions and Rosenstein need fired/impeached and indictments to proven crimes made!

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