“‘I said to her, “Darling, I don’t know anything about the Muslim religion. As long as you know what you’re doing.'”
There’s your problem right there — one that I’m trying to remedy with my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS.
“Ashlee Brown, 25, had been found dead on her bathroom floor with more than 100 blunt and sharp force injuries covering most of her body.” Mohamed Naddaf’s behavior is a manifestation of the culture of violence that is created by the divine mandate for the beating of disobedient women (Qur’an 4:34) and the general reduction of women to commodities: when they get out of line, there is no limit to the punishment that can be meted out.
“‘I believe Islam killed my daughter’: A grieving mother tells how her daughter cut off all contact with family and friends to marry an older Muslim man who left her on a bathroom floor for FIVE DAYS to die,” by Stephen Gibbs, Daily Mail Australia, July 10, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Siobhann Brown had not heard from her eldest daughter since she called five years earlier saying she was converting to Islam to get married and have her first child.
Then two Victoria Police detectives arrived at her door.
Ashlee Brown, 25, had been found dead on her bathroom floor with more than 100 blunt and sharp force injuries covering most of her body.
The mother of three children under five had been bound, gagged and had her long strawberry blonde hair cut off.
Ashlee’s husband Mohamed Naddaf, 37, told police he had found his wife in that state in their garage about five days earlier but chose to ‘care’ for her in the bathroom rather than call Triple 0.
Ms Brown had to run out of her house in disbelief when she heard how her daughter died. She is now faced with Naddaf pleading guilty to manslaughter, without ever going to trial.
‘Ashlee was a fun-loving girl,’ Ms Brown told Daily Mail Australia. ‘She was giving. She was loving. She loved the sun, the beach. She loved singing, dancing, having fun.’
Ashlee had been raised in country Victoria as a ‘typical Aussie girl’ and gradually grew restless as she hit her late teenage years.
She took increasingly regular trips to Melbourne, once returning to introduce her family to Mohamed Rannaf when she was was about 18.
‘She introduced him as “Macca”,’ Ms Brown said. ‘It was very brief.
‘He seemed like a nice, very polite, young man. It pains me to say that. I didn’t see him again after that.’
There was no communication for some time before a phone call came ‘out of the blue’ that would herald the end of all contact between Ms Brown and her daughter.
When Ashlee was about 20 she rang to say she was pregnant and wanted her mother’s blessing to convert to Islam and marry Mohamed.
‘She said to me, “Mum, I need your blessing to become Muslim”. She said “I’m three months’ pregnant and I’m engaged to Mohamed. I would really like to marry him, mum, and settle down and have a baby”.
‘I said to her, “Darling, I don’t know anything about the Muslim religion. As long as you know what you’re doing.
‘I said, “Do you have to wear one of those burqas or hijabs? I didn’t know what they were called.
‘She said, “No mum, only when I go into the mosque because it’s disrespectful for a woman to show her face before God”.
‘I said to Ashlee, “As long as you’re making a fully informed decision and it’s what you really want”.’…
Krishna says
never marry a pious muslim man
for himalways faith >love
I suggest only to marry liberal Muslim man
Susan B says
Never marry ANY muslim man. NEVER!!!!
abad says
NO non-Moslem western female should EVER marry a Moslem male. Period.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I know of numerous cases where a non-Mohammadan marries a Mohammadan. At a certain point the Mohammadan “becomes religious” and runs off, taking all the children. The non-Mohammadan never sees their children ever again. This happens in the case of both sexes.
balam says
II would be safer to sleep with a POISONOUS SNAKE in your bed!!!
JawsV says
balam, you’re the poisonous snake! You puff adder venomous viper! Go scr** yourself!!!
gravenimage says
Jaws, why are you now attacking Balam? He is saying that marrying Muslims is dangerous, which, as in the story above, is indeed often the case. Why do you disagree?
JawsV says
gi, Balam attacked me yesterday by calling me an “ignorant Muslim.” And he used caps.
Understand now? I had 2 morons calling me a Muslim last night which I don’t appreciate whatsoever. In fact, it’s a horrible insult and a total lie. He attacked me first like the other moron. I’m sure you get it now.
gravenimage says
Jaws, he should not have assumed you were Muslim–if this was the case–but it still doesn’t explain why you would go after him for saying that marrying Muslims is dangerous for women.
JawsV says
You just don’t get it, do you, gi? Why don’t you butt out? I’m tired of replying to you.
gravenimage says
Jaws, I will not reply to you further here. If you want to attack people for opposing Jihad, it is certainly your business.
JawsV says
You still don’t get it, you refuse to get it, gi. I was the one who was attacked initially. But you seem to have overlooked that. They’re getting a taste of their own medicine, that’s all. Somehow you don’t understand that. Has nothing, nothing, nothing, to do with opposing Jihad. I was idiotically personally attacked by 3 morons who called me a Muslim, a slanderous insult. Yes, so long. Thanks for not replying anymore.
JawsV says
But you married one, Muslima Susan B! How’s Abdullah working out?! You’re the 4th wife? LOL
gravenimage says
How does opposing Muslim “Honor Killing” make one a Muslimah? Jaws, I know you are a staunch Anti-Jihadist with a long history of posting here at JW, but I don’t understand your position on this thread.
JawsV says
Letting Susan B see how it feels to be called a Muslim. IOW, slander of a horrible kind.
GP says
JawsV …. how old are you?
Your language and vindictive comments are totally unnecessary. Please stop and have a break to sort yourself out.
JawsV says
GP. It’s time for your ride to elementary school. Then have a break and sort yourself out. Not “vindictive” — a taste of their own medicine for slandering me. Shove off.
Doris Frech says
You are so right. One never knows when a liberal Muslim makes new friendships with devouted Muslims.
somehistory says
Marry no moslim….none whatsoever! They don’t know “love” and they don’t show “love” and they know only rape, hate, lust, murder and lying like the evil creatures they are; like the evil creature who is their “father,” satan the devil.
John says
Oh So True
Cicero says
No never marry ANY Muslim man EVER!
They all have the same deathly mind st once you scratch away the thin veneer of liberalism.
mortimer says
Cicero, the ‘deadly mindset’ is called AL WALAA WAL BARAA. It is an ‘essential’ teaching of Islam that Muslims must ‘hate’ kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’.
You would do well to gain a thorough understanding of Al Walaa wal Baraa.
balam says
Good advice to gullible ‘KUFFAR’ women.
infidel numero uno says
NEVER marry a mooseslime!!! They are the devil’s spawn and should be eradicated from the face of the Earth.
Sam says
Never marry a person who says he/she is a Muslim. As one says he is a Muslim he is totally ignorant of the religion or he is evil. Either case don’t marry a Muslim!
Peggy says
Is there such an animal?
They all present as nice and normal until you convert and marry them.
Even if he is not radical what about his family? How long before they take over and he goes along with it all?
Besides, they are savages and there is no way I would ever hide my hair like one of them.
MTMLA says
WHAT????????????
MTMLA says
She died doing what she loved …..can’t cure stupid!!!
Raja says
Krishna,
A liberal can change to conservative to orthodox/terrorist. There is so much intoxication.and superstition in Islam ..Niever try getting close to a crocodile, snake etc.
balam says
Muslims are basically EVIL ,as they follow the footsteps of Mohammad
JawsV says
But, you’re a Muslim, balam! So, you’re EVIL, a follower of Mohammad.
gravenimage says
Jaws, this makes no sense.
JawsV says
Balam called me a Muslim so letting him know how it feels. So, makes a lot of sense. You don’t just slander someone with a horrible and mendacious insult and get away with it.
christianblood says
Young people in the West are getting lost, converting to islam in their thousands every year while trying run away the godless, materialistic, animalistic and spiritually bankrupted lives in the West! Others are turning to drugs, violence, gangestrism and satanism to run away from the profound spiritually and moral bankrupted and meaningless lives in the West! So-called churches in the West are themselves secularized are baptizing dogs and “marrying” homosexuals and celebrating and parading sin and shame calling it pride while removing crosses from churches and other places as ‘offensive’ to muslims! In addition to that, the godless, Anti-Christ, satanicly pro-islamist Western governments are showing deep love and support to islamists, including murderous islamist jihadists that are murdering tens of thousands of christian every year! In every way you look, the West is very, very, very BAD and it imports destruction and evil around the globe!
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
Young people in the West are getting lost, converting to islam in their thousands every year while trying run away the godless, materialistic, animalistic and spiritually bankrupted lives in the West!
………………………………..
No–Islam is *not* a solution to any shortcomings in the civilized world–nor is there anything spiritual about Islam–unless you consider rape and murder to be “spiritual”. *Ugh*.
And no–most people in the West are not converting to Islam. What claptrap. Most of the growth in Islam in the West immigration and high Muslim birthrates.
Foolish people like Ashlee Brown are thankfully fairly rare.
More:
Others are turning to drugs, violence, gangestrism and satanism to run away from the profound spiritually and moral bankrupted and meaningless lives in the West!
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The claim about satanism is absurd. The “church of satan” is minuscule here.
I could point to high rates of alcoholism and the Russian Mafia in Russia, as well. How is this possible, if–as “Christianblood” has claimed, almost everyone is a devout Orthodox Christian?
All societies have their problems–the idea that the horrors of Islam are a *solution* to any problems in the civilized world is just grotesque.
More:
So-called churches in the West are themselves secularized are baptizing dogs and “marrying” homosexuals and celebrating and parading sin and shame calling it pride while removing crosses from churches and other places as ‘offensive’ to muslims!
………………………………..
“Christianblood” has said this sort of thing before–never mind that most of it is claptrap.
He has claimed that all non-Orthodox are not real Christians–that is how he can look at the US being 87% Christian and consider this to be less than Russia at 50%.
More:
In addition to that, the godless, Anti-Christ, satanicly pro-islamist Western governments are showing deep love and support to islamists, including murderous islamist jihadists that are murdering tens of thousands of christian every year! In every way you look, the West is very, very, very BAD and it imports destruction and evil around the globe!
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As always, “Christianblood” hates the free West *far* more than he does Islam–he has said that gay parades are worse than murderous Jihad terror attacks.
But let’s return to the story above here–“Christianblood’s” implication is that this sort of thing does not happen in Russia, but only in the West, because the West is “godless and materialistic”.
But, in fact, this “love Jihad” is rife in Russia:
https://www.opendemocracy.net/od-russia/ekaterina-neroznikova/convert-and-love-russia-s-muslim-wives
Notice that the main story also includes threats of “Honor Killing” for not being Islamic enough.
J D S says
KEY WORS HERE…..”As long as you are making a FULLY INFORMED decision”
People in the free world are NOT informed about Islam especially in our governments…I say that because they are doing little to nothing about the Muslim problem and to those who say there is no problem in the west and Islam is just “over there” They are the most misinformed…and to ALL I say..get informed read , study and be interested and one will find the truth.
BC says
People need to recognise that ‘fun loving’ and Islam cannot exist together
“Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious.” — Ayatollah Khomeini
This is how they work get an impressionable girl to fall for them get her to convert then when she is not submissive enough. murder her
Nilotpal Chatterjee says
Liberal Muslim!!!! What’s that?! Does that really exist?!
Dum Spiro says
Looks like another example of Islam to Islay. Other women can learn vicariously though, right?
— Spero
Carol the 1st says
100 blows and stabbings! We often hear of this obscene fury. Can it be just the result of warped neural pathways created and inflamed by doctrine, pride and narcissism? We know Islam transcends race and region but could there be some prevalent genetic flaw? Or could it possibly be a reflection of buried despair at being born into the quagmire called Islam?
Almira says
Darwin’s theory will prove that the disease and tolerance of Islam perpetuated by liberalism will be the utter death of liberalism itself.
CogitoErgoSum says
It is disrespectful for a woman to show her face before God? NO it is NOT. The GOD WHO IS to whom I pray loves you no matter what you look like. You are beautiful to Him … ALWAYS … no matter your age or your sex and no matter if you wear make up or not, no matter if you have scars, warts or pimples. God finds beauty in you no matter what because He made the part of you that matters, your soul, in His own image and that is where God looks for beauty.
Do you know what is disrespectful to God ??? ……. lifting your hindquarters to Him when you pray. That is something very disrespectful to God. Islam is an insult to God on a daily basis and the vile and ugly one behind it knows that quite well.
somehistory says
God Himself said, “Not the way man sees is the way God sees, as God sees the heart.”
islam is a pervert…it perverts all things right and good and tries to make a mockery of what is from the True God.
But God is “not One to be mocked.”
abad says
Precisely.
I realize that for Christians, sitting is a common position, especially in church during service, but kneeling and standing are acceptable.
Meanwhile, Moslems bang their heads on the cement floors of their mosques lift their hineys and fart. Now I don’t know if this position is the result of their humping goats or what. But their method of prayer is indeed disrespectful to God.
Rarely says
And God disclosed this to you how?
Personally I don’t think the Almighty gives a hoot how you pray or whether you pray at all, To believe otherwise would be giving the Almighty an ego. Man projecting human traits onto a spiritual being — and negative ones at that. I wonder if the Almighty likes chocolate and/or is addicted to cigarettes.
Susan B says
Rarely you are right God does not care how you pray. Your allah however does care how you pray.
boakai ngombu says
what you say in incorrect, perhaps born in ignorance.
before Jesus taught disciples how to pray he taught: “… when you pray, go into your own room, shut the door, and pray to your Father, Who is with you when you’re alone, and your Father, Who sees what is secret, will reward you. …”
then he taught: This is how you should pray: Our Father in heaven — /May Your name be kept holy, Your kingdom come,/ And Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven./ Give us today our daily bread./ And forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us./ And don’t bring us into temptation,/ But deliver us from evil.” … [Matthew 7: 6 9-13 (Beck)]
Rarely says
Allah does not exist and never did. How could he possibly care about anything. Allah is an invention by a 7th century desert warlord to keep the ignorant masses in line so he could conquer, rape and plunder. The ignorant fools still believe that s**t.
JawsV says
It’s your Allah, Muslima Susan B. You’re a liar and deceiver like all Muslims.
MTMLA says
According to these beasts a woman showing her face is disrespectful to God. How about men showing their faces???A woman with an ounce of smarts would deduct that women are descreminated in this so called religion. She failed and that cost her life. RIP.
Raja says
Islam is the only so called religion wherein the creator hates creation, more so women.. What a paradox..
D Austin says
Picture shows she got to keep her cigarettes and was well fed…
Rarely says
boakai ngombu
Why would your belief on how to pray be any better than a muslim’s belief? You are ascribing human characteristics to the Almighty as are they. God is going to punish you for praying in a non-prescribed fashion. Well buddy, I for one have no use for such a god. In fact NO SUCH GOD EXISTS –IMPOSSIBLE.
boakai ngombu says
you have not considered the Christ of God; apparently you’ve not read the Bible with understanding.
“Although He was God, He did not consider His being equal with God as a prize to be displayed, but He emptied Himself, made Himself a slave, became like other human beings, and was seen to have the ways of a man. He became obedient and humbled Himself until He died, yes, died on a cross. That is why God also exalted Him up on high and gave Him the name above every other name that at the name of JESUS everyone in heaven and on earth and under the earth should kneel, and everyone should confess, ‘JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!’ and so glorify God the Father. [Phiippians 2: 6 -11 (Beck)]
the version was rendered for children with a high school reading level.
as for the passage… the allah god of islam (subjugation) disputes it in the Koran; it is the best of all deceivers and the exemplar for humankind – the morally bankrupt Muhammad (lately contrived; full of lusts; lacking compassion) did neither hear nor recite TRUTH about Jesus.
Rarely says
I understand that you are a devout Christian but that doesn’t absolve you from critical thinking any more than being a devout muslim absolves that muslim. Neither of you can understand that, regardless of the strength of your belief, others hold equally strong alternate views and, in fact, three quarters of the people on the planet disagree with you. Spouting verses of the New Testament is not an argument.
The right to hold opposing religious views is called: Freedom of Religion (see your Grade Two Primer). That you can freely believe that the Almighty wants you to pray in a certain way is, to me, no more bizarre than that muslims believe allah orders them to pray in a different way. My criticism of both is called Freedom of Speech (same Primer).
I stand by my earlier remarks — I have no use for a deity that has such a weak ego (or any ego at all for that matter) that it matters to that deity exactly how one prays or if he prays at all. For such a deity to exist would be a contradiction.
granddaddy says
Hello Rarely.
“The right to hold opposing religious views is called: Freedom of Religion”
I agree with most of what you say. But you bring up a good point: does a religion, composed of members who, in this country, have the right to free speech — does a religion then have a right to preach things which, as a single person, if they were to do what their god tells them, would make them a criminal: murder, deceit, rape, slavery, oppression, and sedition? Are such things acceptable in the name of God? This is what Islam teaches. And it is in this country. So the question is, if a religion says these things are acceptable to its god, is it then acceptable to preach them? And if we say they have freedom of religion because they call it a religion (or for any other reason), does it then become acceptable? Whether or not we are legally allowed to preach such things in the name of God is not my point, my point is this: can anything, no matter how despicable, heinous, and repulsive, be a religious practice simply because some “god” somewhere says it is? Is there no limit to it? I’m all for free speech, but this evil hiding behind God can not, in my opinion, be tolerated. If we allow it to continue, it will eventually bring down the government and the nation.
gravenimage says
So murdering her was fine? What?
Barbara says
Really, this is lazy journalism. We all know that men kill their wives every day. A story like this need STATISTICS that prove that Muslims are more likely to abuse and/or kill their wives. This website would be a lot better if every criminal or terrorist incident had statistics to back up the idea that each awful evident has ample precedents in the MODERN WORLD. Yes, it’s important to cite the Quran and Islamic history, but the public needs to know hard facts about how common terrorism, extremist ideology, welfare fraud, domestic violence etc. are in Muslims, especially those who have immigrated to the West. I contend that criminal conduct by doctors is much more common among immigrant doctors, especially Muslim ones, for example, but somebody needs to get the list of banned doctors and go over the names. The same could be done with murders, domestic assaults etc.
JawsV says
“We all know that men kill their wives every day.”
In all cultures. Including Western. Just this week a few white men killed their wives and children in the U.S.
So, not just Moslem. And I’m not a defender of Islam.
Susan B says
The difference is that under islamic law killing your property is not a crime, but your right. In all other countries you are charged with murder. HUGE DIFFERENCE.
JawsV says
Honor Killings are Islamic law? I don’t think so.
Susan B says
91% of honor killings are by muslims. You fool no one, an owner can murder any of his multiple wives or children and it is not a crime under islamic law. You should try reading the koran once in a while, you seem a little rusty on islamic law.
Rarely says
Still dead.
JawsV says
You seem a little rusty on good manners, Susan B. Who do you think you are? You’re not the oracle on the Koran that’s for sure. Take your arrogant self and stuff it.
Susan B says
Really, I have read your diabolical female hating manual so you can not fool me with your taqiyya. If you want proof of how evil islam is look at the death toll of 735 million and look at islamic hell holes still stuck in the backward and barbaric 7th century. Look at the treatment of females and non muslims and animals. muslims claim that this evil book that calls for murder and rape and hates women is from God???? Are muslims really that stupid. Not only do you believe that the koran is from God but think that it is cut in stone so islam has painted itself into a proverbial 7th century corner. Islam is doomed it has no connection to God and has no love and your sick god never ever lowers himself to speak to women. He only talks to the owners of women and no where in your satanic book are women ever referred to as independent human beings. Muslim women are nothing but sex objects and the property of some man or other. Time to #walkaway and save yourself.
mortimer says
JawsV, YOU ARE WRONG. Sharia law FULLY DEFENDS the honor killing of 1) APOSTATES 2) CHILDREN OF MUSLIMS 3) BLASPHEMERS.
If the woman turned apostate or blasphemed, the husband would have been defended under Sharia law … or he could CLAIM that she was an apostate.
When wives are FIRST COUSINS, they may be honor-killed due the agreement of the GRANDFATHER who normally sides with the man.
THE GRANDFATHER’S HONOR is restored when the misbehaving wife is killed.
gravenimage says
Susan is *quite right* that 91% of honor killings are committed by Muslims. Moreover, “Honor Killings” are seldom prosecuted in Dar-al-Islam.
See how widespread support for murdering women is in the Muslim world:
“Four-in-Ten Pakistanis say honor killing of women can be at least sometimes justified”
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/30/four-in-ten-pakistanis-say-honor-killing-of-women-can-be-at-least-sometimes-justified/
Here’s more on the subject:
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2010/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
JawsV says
I’m not a Muslim, Susan B. I detest Islam. Why don’t you calm down and chill?
Susan B says
You are not only a mohammedan but also a liar. Why do you mohammedan trolls always deny being muslim, are you ashamed or just trying to pretend that there are non muslims that like islam??? Never Never, wait, there is one non muslim that likes islam. Francis.
JawsV says
You’re a nutcase, Susan B. Once again, I’m not a Muslim. But you are an ignoramus.
Susan B says
You are a mohammedan you act and deceiver like one.
JawsV says
You’re the Mohammedan, nutcase Susan B. You act like one and you deceive like one.
You should be committed to an asylum. It’s a shame to see such stupidity on JW.
Moron = Susan B.
gravenimage says
Neither Jaws nor Susan are Muslim.
Jaws, I don’t understand why you are defending this Islamic savagery, though.
JawsV says
I’m not defending any Muslim savagery, gi! What in the heck’s wrong with you???
And yes Susan B is a Muslim! She acts like one and deceives like one! How’s your hijab, Muslima Sue? You like that? Good. Now stop slandering me you fruitcake.
gravenimage says
Jaws, Susan is a staunch Anti-Jihadist, and has not said anything defending Islam here.
You are right that violence against women is not limited to Muslims–but Islam *sacralizes” wife beating, and most Muslim countries do not even prosecute “Honor Killings”.
Whereas, these are the most serious crimes in the civilized world.
JawsV says
I haven’t said anything defending Islam either, gi. And, I couldn’t care less about Muslima Sue and her idiocy.
gravenimage says
Jaws, opposing “Honor Killing” does not make one a Muslim–just the opposite, really.
gravenimage says
Barbara, Jihad Watch often cites that 91% of “Honor Killings” are committed by Muslims–though they make just about 20% of the world’s population.
balam says
JawsV: YOU SOUND IGNORANT LIKE A MUSLIM.No differance!!!
JawsV says
balam: YOU SOUND IGNORANT LIKE A MUSLIM! NO DIFFERENCE!
EFF OFF YOU MUSLIM MORON! balam the MUSLIM MORON! LIKE SUSAN B!
Michael Copeland says
JawsV says:
“Honor Killings are Islamic law? I don’t think so.”
They are. The Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller”, specifies retaliation as the punishment for a killing. However,
“Not subject to retaliation are a mother or father for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring. ” (o1.4).
A wife is the chattel of her husband. For infidelity or apostasy he can kill her.
gravenimage says
True, Michael.
carpediadem says
Can people please STOP conflating colour, race and religion!!
gravenimage says
+1
Carol the 1st says
Barbara and JawsV:
Did these Western wife-murderers use a hundred blows and stabbings and then allow the wife about a week to die in misery? There’s a pattern here like rain after a cloudy sky and I need no statistics to inform me that something very different and very sick is going on here and it’s coming from a culture other than my own. I’ll check stats as needed.
dumbledoresarmy says
You should read this article by one ‘Spengler’ that appeared in Asia Times in 2010.
Very lucid. And it makes some solid points about the profound difference in the entire structure of Islam, that enables, permits, even sacralises, murderous violence wielded by a man against his wife (and children, also).
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LE25Ak01.html
“Wife-Beating, Sharia, and Western Law”.
I quote some telling paragraphs – but please read it all.
“…The practice of wife-beating, which is found in Muslim communities in Western countries, is embedded too profoundly in sharia law to be extracted.
“Nowhere to my knowledge has a Muslim religious authority of standing repudiated wife-beating as specified in Surah 4:32 of the Koran, **for to do so would undermine the foundations of Muslim society.** (my emphasis – dda)
“**By extension, the power of the little sovereign of the family can include the killing of wayward wives and female relations ** (my emphasis – dda).
“**Execution for domestic crimes, often called “honor killing”, is not mentioned in the Koran, but the practice is so widespread in Muslim countries – the United Nations Population Fund estimates an annual toll of 5,000 – that it is recognized in what we might term Islamic common law.** (my emphasis – dda).
“Muslim courts either do not prosecute so-called honor killings, or prosecute them more leniently than other crimes.
“Article 340 of Jordan’s penal code states, “He who discovers his wife or one of his female relatives committing adultery (sic: but we must remember that ‘adultery’ here is ‘zina’ and can cover much that no westerner would ever call ‘adultery’ – dda) and kills, wounds, or injures one of them, is exempted from any penalty.” Syria imposes only a two-year prison sentence for such killings. Pakistan forbids them but rarely punishes them.”
I recall also the story of a young woman, daughter of a foolish British woman who had married a Saudi Muslim. When the daughter was quite young – pre-teen – her father whisked her away to Saudi Arabia, and proceeded to treat her very badly. When she ran away to the police, they refused to help her at all – they **sent her back to her abusive father**, telling her, “He’s your father, he can kill you if he wants to”. (She did, eventually, somehow, manage to escape, to tell the tale).
We are talkling about a mindset – a whole cultural pattern – that is totally alien .. a cultural pattern that actively *primes* men to despise, fear, punish and KILL their spouses and indeed female kin or any female. And whole families – parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, brothers and sisters – that team up to *authorise* such – often violent and highly ritualised ‘family executions’ of a member of the family who has been identified (quite often on the basis of perfervid imaginations, or false accusations) as bringing ‘shame’ on the family .. and authorities that do nothing whatsoever to punish such murders.
Want to find out more? Read Phyllis Chesler on the subject. She notes that whereas western men very rarely murder their nubile daughters, this is one of the *commonest* forms of ‘honour’ murder. She also notes that honor murders usually involve ‘overkill’ (exactly, indeed, as in *this* awful case in Australia); the victim is not merely killed, but killed *torturously*; often raped and gruesomely mutilated. The ritualised and extreme ultraviolence deployed in ‘honour’ murders – usually by intimates/ family members against their own – is parallelled, in the west, only by the ultraviolence employed by psycho serial killers preying upon strangers. That is: a Muslim man killing his wife or daughter or sister or cousin (usually with the connivance/ authorisation of the entire ‘tribe’) behaves toward her as, in the west, *only* a psycho serial killer behaves towards his chosen prey.
Susan B says
Excellent link. The artical is very enlightening about the unenlightened. Islam must not survive the civilized world.
Arthur says
But Barbara, what’s actually wrong with reporting this killing, which is dramatic in its cruelty?
There is always something bigger, worse, more tragic. Would you only report the worst thing?
Your comment really doesn’t hold water.
Raja says
Arthur,
+1
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I contend that it is better not to wait until after the crime to prove with statistics that someone is liable to hurt another.
And if you want studies then there are lots of those. There’s even studies (two by prison psychologist, that I’m aware of) that show when Mohammadans become more religious, they become more violent. Whereas Christian become less violent.
If you want stats go visit Dr Bill Warner site or his youtube channel. He’s compiled a very impressive set of stats that show Mohammadism is violent and dismissive of women.
Rarely says
Barbara.
Perfectly reasonable suggestion.
infidel says
THIS IS NOT LAZY JOURNALISM… THIS IS HARDCORE RESEARCH AND INFERENCE.. JUST ASK HINDUS ABOUT THE INSIDIOUS PROCESS OF LOVE-JEHAAD.
dumbledoresarmy says
Actually, there was a study done in the UK in the early 1990s that discovered just that. It found that women married to Muslim men were *eight times more likely* to be murdered by their spouses, than were women married to men of any other belief system (or of no belief).
It is mentioned by Geraldine Brooks in her book “Nine Parts of Desire” (1994).
I quote, from ‘Nine Parts of Desire’, the final section, entitled “Conclusion: Beware of the Dogma”, the passage in which she mentions this study, whose author/s she does not name. “This was not an isolated case. It simply happened to be the one I heard about. In a British study of family violence completed not long before Afaf’s death, the researchers found that women married to men of Muslim background were eight times more likely to be killed by their spouses than any other women in Britain.”
EIGHT TIMES MORE LIKELY.
The ‘Afaf’ mentioned here was a Sudanese Muslim woman named Afaf who was very violently murdered by her Sudanese Muslim husband (both being resident in the UK at the time) shortly after Afaf had decided to divorce him. Brooks describes the trial; and identifies the murder as an ‘honour’ murder, comparable to others that she had heard of when living and doing research in heavily-Islamised lands, and arising from very different sources than the standard *western* ‘crime of passion’.
Unfortunately, Brooks doesn’t supply the name of the institution or of the scholar/s who did this study of family violence in the UK, and its startling findings about the much higher risk of being murdered, if you are married to a Muslim. Perhaps we should write to her and ask her if she can tell us – she’s a journalist, she *ought* to have the exact reference – author/s, date of publication, institution under whose auspices the work was done – in her files.
Or some enterprising UK jihadwatcher, given the date – early 1990s – could have a go at tracking it down (though it might take some finding, it’s the kind of thing that might have been published and then swiftly ‘buried’, because embarrassing).
Emilie Green says
“As long as you’re making a fully informed decision and it’s what you really want”
Even after 1400 years the knowledge of Islam is so abysmal. It’s changing, at long last. As Robert says, he’s doing his part. Right now it’s a basic rate problem. Can the Muslims make inroads into the West faster than those in the West can learn about Islam and how to defend against it?
Older Canadian says
Again something is missing.
You have a daughter, who calls you stating she is pregnant, getting married, and converting to a religion you nothing about.
Then there is a 5 year period of silence?! Your daughter, no concern where she is, no interest is seeing your grandchild?
Then you get totally devastated regarding her death?
Something is missing here.
Raja says
Older Canadian,
Fair point… wotrh ponderting…The socieity itself is far from “closely bonded”” or affectionate..
Carol the 1st says
The “fun-loving” girl got enmeshed with a drug-taking Islamic. She probably knew him as a control freak when, after a long and inexplicable absence, she left her mother the clue “It’s Islam”. She was found in the garage – both car and garage had blood in them (unlocked car? and where else to go to have a fight a little out of range of three small children?). Her hair was shorn off as well – sounds kinda personal.
Original article:
“Lengths of cord matching the couple’s clothes line were found in a garbage bin, along with packing tape and clumps of Ashlee’s hair. Blood was found in their car.” Wow! That mystery killer must have encased himself in a dozen Hefty bags! Anyone find any DNA from a non-resident?
and:
“Crown prosecutor Patrick Bourke said it would have been ‘blindingly obvious’ Ashlee needed immediate medical help.”
dumbledoresarmy says
You ask – “Anyone find any DNA from a non-resident?”
Yes. And what about **fingerprints**??
Were the forensics team who examined the body – the room – the *house* and the garage and yard – *utterly* incompetent?
There’s no mention in the article of *any* manhunt or ongoing investigation. If they *had* found evidence that some other person or persons unknown had gained entry to the house and attacked the woman leaving her mortally injured, then surely there should be a hue-and-cry in pursuit of the attacker/s.
JawsV says
It’s not just Moslem:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/sad-details-revealed-family-five-050015393.html
6woods says
Seriously. What’s your point? Everyone knows “it’s not just moslem”. But everyone knows that “just moslem” have divine sanction to kill wives, children, grandchildren, those not islamic enough, infidels, etc. And we cowards in the west (by cowards I mean our governments, but “we” elect them) let them do it with just a token slap on the wrist. It’s their culture, after all. We musn’t judge! Sarc/off
JawsV says
Seriously, eff off.
6woods says
Really? That’s all ya got, little muzzie??
JawsV says
I’m not a Muslim you moron. But you are a little loser. You’d be perfect as a Muslim! Why don’t you sign up, Abdullah?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The stats are out there. Mohammadans predominate in the domain of domestic violence. We see it sharply in the West because the cases are more likely to be reported and we have a low tolerance for such violence. In shariah compliant countries (both officially and unofficially compliant) the numbers of unreported cases must be staggering.
Barenakeislam once ran a sequence of photographs of Mohammadan women who had been disfigured by a family member(s) with acid, trauma or fire. This series of photos went on and on and on and on and on. I couldn’t make my way through it; it was too much for me.
So when I read someone saying that all groups engage in domestic violence, I have to say, yes that’s true but we are talking about a enormous difference in numbers. We are also comparing our intolerance to this kind of violence to the complete acceptance within the Mohammadan ideology.
To my mind, in the case of domestic violence, saying, “yes, but we do it too,” smacks of shameless moral relativism. I still have the image of all those disfigured women in my mind’s eye.
JawsV says
Flavius, there’s no “shameless moral relativism.” It’s not shameful to note that in all cultures violence against females is rampant. OK, Islam has Sharia, I know that. And that is a big difference compared to Western civilization. But even without Sharia females in the West are plagued by violence from males.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“in all cultures violence against females is rampant.”
“the West are plagued by violence from males.”
Rampant? Plagued? Your hyperbole betrays you.
JawsV says
Huh? What’s that, Flavius? Betrays what? Both are true statements. There’s no hyperbole. Kinda dumb, aren’t you? You’re not familiar with the words “rampant” and “plagued?” What are you, a grade-school dropout? Oh, I bet you’re a Muslim! Bingo!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#/media/File:Graham%27s_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement-en.svg
Susan B says
+1 Great link that really explains a lot.
I do believe that JawsV has become unhinged. I no longer respond to him.
JawsV says
The link is for Susan B and her personal attacks upon me. You’re the unhinged, Sue B. You wouldn’t stop calling me a Muslim yesterday though I kept telling you I wasn’t. What the heck’s wrong with you? I don’t appreciate being called a Muslim, do you get it? You started it. Who do you think you are? Great — I don’t want anyone who slanders me to reply to me. Your personal attacks were slander. Yes, the link explains a lot about Muslima Sue.
gravenimage says
True, 6woods.
Jaws, no one is saying that Infidels never commit rape, robbery, or murder–but all of these things are rife among Muslims, and are often sacralized. Of course this is important to note.
Carol the 1st says
JawsV…I don’t mean to pick on you but you really should consider why you do not seem to appreciate the difference between the example you just supplied (here’s an excerpt) and the killing of Ashlee:
“A Delaware man shot and killed his wife, three children and then turned the gun on himself Monday after complaining of marital problems and losing his job.”
This is honest despair and incorporation of his family into his own possessive sense of person-hood whereas the slaughter of a young wife and mother by a creature who then undoubtedly tried to save his OWN skin by denying her emergency medical treatment followed by then trying to portray himself as some compassionate nurse is simply absurd and obscene. This prince also allowed her three children to trot past her as she lay for days dying in the bathroom to which he’d dragged her. Nice touch.
I guess his “depression” made him do it. He didn’t seem too concerned about “the man who got away”.
Carol the 1st says
Reading the original article (and the posts that accompany it) what I find incredible is the number of people who wish to diminish and smear their own culture and its men with this markedly horrific brush rather than acknowledge the fact that Islam produces a standout passel of vicious, controlling, and quite disturbed beasties.
You see posters like this in article after article and I can only conclude these are disguised muslims or a breed of human incapable of being clear-eyed and objective. It truly is an unbalanced reaction and it smacks of virtue-mongering and denial.
JawsV says
You’re an idiot, Carol. And a disguised Muslim. You’re also incapable of being clear-eyed and objective. Furthermore, you’re unbalanced and in denial. Thanks for describing yourself. A real ninny.
Westman says
It seems rather obvious:
Muslim husband beats, tortures wife and allows her to suffer for 5 days rather than his deed be discovered.
Husband offers incredibly stupid alibi of only discovering the crime and then delaying help further by “caring” for the wife for 5 days with his (non)considerable medical skills. This is claimed in a country with socialized medicine.
Authorities, fearing the typical outrage of the muslim community during a trial accepts a plea deal for a quick “resolution”.
Authorities pat themselves on back for bringing “justice”. It’s difficult to determine who has the lowest IQ, the killer or the authorities.
Conclusion: Some justice. Husband out of prison in less that 10 years, will enslave wife #2.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is all ridiculous.
JawsV says
Yes, you are.
gravenimage says
Wait–how am I ridiculous for opposing Muslim “Honor Killing”? Is that *really* what you are saying?
JawsV says
What’s ridiculous is me being called a Muslim last night by 3 morons when that’s the last thing I am. It’s a horrible insult. But, somehow you missed that. I discovered I get really angry if I’m called a Muslim or Mohammedan. Very po’d. I kept repeating that I wasn’t but the nasty morons wouldn’t listen and continued to slander me.
Steve says
It’s important to “strongly” instil your values into your children, otherwise you can end up with an, empty container, just waiting to be filled with garbage.
gravenimage says
Some kids still wind up pretty clueless. I would not necessarily blame the mother for this.
Rarely says
One of the hardest things to do in this World is NOT instill your values in your children.
boakai ngombu says
well, enjoying freedom of speech you said what you did
enjoying my freedom of speech i do not agree, not with the “hardest things to do part” but with the “NOT instill your values” part.
you would have the state do the instilling values task and you would not guide your child. that’s a commie approach. it certainly is not a patriotic approach. you open your child to be dhimmified in the present context. if you are not, your child may become a sociopath or worse.
it must have hurt your brain to submit this lack of wisdom maybe you suffer from PTS and trust nothing as a result.
eduardo odraude says
Although the mother said she did not know anything about the Islamic religion, the way she said that, the statement sounded like at the same time she felt an unexpressed undercurrent of worry or doubt about Islam, as if she had in mind that the terrorist reputation of Islam might be grounded in a sick culture. But she was unsure, and she decided to hope that in this case the man was a decent human being and that daughter’s judgement was to be trusted.
I agree that a non-Muslim woman should never marry a Muslim man. Even if he is only a nominal Muslim and knows little about Islam’s central source texts and it seems he would never hurt a fly or support Islamic law, he should be abandoned. Suppose back in the 1930s there was some Nazi or Stalinist who somehow did not know the evil those movements were doing or intending to do. Suppose that Nazi or Stalinist counted himself a member of those movements, assumed them benign, and considered himself just a mild believer, not a strong or fanatical believer. Would it be a good idea to marry him? No, for at least three reasons: 1) in general, it is a bad idea to ally oneself with totalitarian movements and 2) it is a bad idea to get intimately involved with a man who might at some point become more pious about his Islam; and 3) the Muslim man will often deceptively soften the Islamic aspect during the courting stage, and then once he has you, start more and more imposing the Islamic ethos on you. And if the Muslim man is from a Muslim-majority country, never, ever return as a wife with him to that country. It may be very hard for you to escape once you do that.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
MTMLA says
As in the true movie Not Without my Daughter.
gravenimage says
Yes–the book and film are very important.
dumbledoresarmy says
And as also in Phyllis Chesler’s case. *She* fell in love, at University, in the 1960s (when very few young people – teenage / young adult – knew anything at all about Islam) with a charming and superficially-westernised Muslim from a well-to-do Afghan family. She married him. She went to *Afghanistan* with him – this is when it was ruled by an independent monach, long before the coup and the Russian invasion – and… found herself deprived of her American passport, swathed in a burka, and clapped into purdah. Just. like. that. She got out.. by a miracle. She writes about it in two books – “My Afghan Captivity” and “An American Bride in Kabul”. And having been lucky enough to escape with her life – *just barely!* – she also had intelligence enough to learn from the experience.
Her books, also, demand to be widely circulated.
gravenimage says
Thanks, DDA
DHazard says
Which Muslim will you get, the moderate or the extremist? Before marrying a Muslim look over the checklist to detect psychopathy. Complete devotion to Islam can turn that charming man into a dominating monster who has no real feeling towards anyone but himself. With Allah as his ultimate authority, and Muhammad as the man to be emulated, a psychopath emerges (a few days after marriage).
Susan B says
NEVER EVER EVER, marry a muslim they all follow the same female hating book.
mortimer says
Women! Islam is an HONOUR-KILLING CULT,
JawsV says
But Muslima Sue B you married a Muslim! How’s that hijab working out for you?! Moron!
gravenimage says
No, Susan is neither Muslim nor has she married a Muslim.
Opposing Muslim barbarism does not somehow make one a Muslim.
JawsV says
Letting Sue B see how it feels to be called a Muslim. Understand? It’s not a nice feeling. It’s slander.
gravenimage says
Jaws, I still don’t see how saying that opposing Jihad makes you a Muslim makes any sense. But at this point I will stop asking you about it. Be well.
JawsV says
You refuse to understand, gi. So I’ll repeat my above comment:
Letting Sue B see how it feels to be called a Muslim. Understand? It’s not a nice feeling. It’s slander.
A taste of her own medicine.
Billy Chickens says
Would you marry the devil? No. Therefore don’t marry one of his his minions.
mortimer says
Siobhann Brown could not have known and was too slow and disinterested to learn how evil Islam is!
No doubt, Siobhann Brown has LEARNED a LOT about Islam now that this unbearable tragedy has happened.
I hope Siobhann Brown WILL WARN OTHERS that Islam is…
… 22 cults in one: a DEATH CULT, an HONOUR-KILLING CULT, a RAPE CULT, an EXTORTION CULT, a PLUNDER CULT, a CENSORSHIP CULT, a MISOGYNY CULT, a LIE CULT, a PEDOPHILIA CULT, a SADOMASOCHISM CULT, an OBSESSIVE-COMPULSIVE CULT, a SUPREMACISM CULT, a JEW HATRED CULT, a CHRISTIANOPHOBIA CULT, a MALE CHAUVINIST CULT, an INBREEDING CULT, an OBSCURANTISM CULT, a SUPERSTITION CULT, a PERSONALITY CULT, a CRUELTY TO ANIMALS CULT, a GROUP-THINK CULT, a SUICIDE CULT.
Wow! 21 cults in one! Where do we sign up? (sarc/off)
Wellington says
Too little, too late. Thus, this father failed his daughter just as she too failed herself.
Islam is evil. Don’t realize this and so much is possible, for instance dead daughters.
Carol the 1st says
There’s no indication that a father was present in Siobhan or Ashlee’s lives. There were three younger sisters but everything points to no relevant or involved father figure in their lives for years.
shoehorn says
‘Naddaf, who pleaded guilty to manslaughter by way of criminal negligence, did not stand trial for any crime.
He is being held responsible only for not seeking medical assistance and insists he did not physically harm his wife.
He was later charged with killing his wife but pleaded guilty to manslaughter based on negligence.
Naddaf is not accused of causing any physical harm to Ashlee.
As such, whoever inflicted the injuries upon Ashlee remains a mystery in the eyes of the law.’
Yeah, right.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is all sickening.
Halal Bacon says
do ya think, fawking retard
Undaunted says
Wow. I raised my daughter to be wise and strong and in a few days I’ll give her to a true warrior who’s earned the right to her hand.
The parents of the corpse are at fault here.
Wellington says
Agreed, Undaunted. The parents failed in this instance.
And may your daughter thrive and prosper with her about-to-be life mate. I’m certain few matters, if any, mean more to you than this. He must be deserving if you think he is deserving of what you hold most dear.
As always, I remain staunchly with you in the fight against the piss-poorest excuse for a religion of all time.
Undaunted says
Thank you, sir.
FYI says
I’m sorry but if you are a woman who knowingly converts to islam and marries into that “culture” you must accept the consequences:you have chosen to subscribe to..
a god of hate,violence, and murder who admits k3:54 to being “the best of deceivers”
a god who CURSES Jews AND Christians koran 9;30
a violent religion with no compassion,no 2 chief commandments.
a “prophet” whose example or sunnah is a life of commandment-violating immorality
{and who admits in al tabari 6:111to being a false prophet….AGAINST GOD}
If you were born a Christian and convert to islam do not presume salvation will occur:conversion to islam is conversion to a god who curses Christians and denies Christ.
God does not require women to hide their faces;”allah” does.Why should any woman care what “allah” wants when he admits to being a fake god{k3:54}!
You really do reap what you sow.
Kay says
Yes, even if you sow in trust, in desperation, in naïveté, in ignorance.
Indiana Tom says
I said to Ashlee, “As long as you’re making a fully informed decision and it’s what you really want”.’…
Not so sure that was a fully informed decision.
gravenimage says
+1
Dragan Krstic says
One Muslim bitch less.Avoid contacts with Mohammads and stay alive.
gravenimage says
Don’t think they won’t do this to Infidels, as well.
gravenimage says
Australia: “I believe Islam killed my daughter” – Woman cut off contact with family to marry Muslim who killed her
…………………….
This poor mother.
God, I hate Islam.
6woods says
“JawsV says
Jul 12, 2018 at 9:21 pm
I’m not a Muslim you moron. But you are a little loser. You’d be perfect as a Muslim! Why don’t you sign up, Abdullah?”
LOL. Did I hit a nerve? If yer not a muzzie, why the hurry to point out that “it’s not only moslem”? Tu Quoque is a dead giveaway.
And muzzies are famous for countering facts with ad hominem. Own it, muzzie.
JawsV says
Hit what nerve, Woody? I’m not a Muslim you fricking moron. Seriously, did you graduate from elementary school? Apparently you don’t understand English. You own your stupidity.
6woods says
I guess I did hit that nerve! Muzzies are so cute when they’re angry…except when they’re frothing at the mouth, which you are right now.
JawsV says
You’re the one doing the frothing. Seriously, your IQ is about 2. In fact you’re so touchy I think you’re the Muslim! Enjoying Islam?
gravenimage says
No–Jaws is not Muslim. Not sure why he is so intent on defending Muslim “Honor Killings” here, though.
JawsV says
What’s wrong with you, gi? I would never defend honor killings. You’re not stupid like Susan B and Woody so it’s hard to believe you’d say that. I pointed out that violence against females, with or without Sharia, is rampant everywhere. Which is 100% true. And the morons go berserk! You should know better.
gravenimage says
Jaws, you are correct that there is no monopoly on violence against women.
But that Muslims–at just about 20% of the world’s population–are responsible for 91% of the “Honor Killings” is very telling.
Rarely says
It is reasonable to query how common these spousal murders are among muslims vis-a-vie other groups. Any regular readers of JW are clearly aware that islam condones and even prescribes certain abhorrent acts including wife abuse.
JW reports various horrors individually and it is perfectly reasonable to wonder how common these acts are in the West. For example if there were 6 honour killings in the U.S. last year and all were committed by muslims it’s kind of irrelevant. However if there were 276 in the same time and 91% were committed by muslims it is much more relevant. Finally if there were 8,356 such murders that 91% were muslims would be VERY relevant. Obviously.
It is perfectly reasonable that Barbara would ask the question.
eduardo odraude says
Percentage of Honor Killings Done by Muslims
According to the article “Worldwide Trends in Honor Killings,” published in the Middle East Forum, Muslims do 91 percent of honor killings worldwide and 96 percent of honor killings in Europe. If you click on the below link, those percentages can be found five paragraphs below the heading “Methodology.”
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2010/worldwide-trends-in-honor-killings
Carol the 1st says
When stats in your face prove the overweening murder count then don’t forget to peek at the absolutely disgusting degree of brutal savagery and rape “incidental” to “honour” killings. The West doesn’t produce anything at all like it. Even Mexican drug-dealers likely fall short.
6woods says
“JawsV says
Jul 12, 2018 at 10:34 pm
You’re the one doing the frothing. Seriously, your IQ is about 2. In fact you’re so touchy I think you’re the Muslim! Enjoying Islam?”
You’re either a muslim or an apologist, and the difference between the two is as significant as the difference between ‘six’ and ‘half a dozen’. I’ve seen your interactions with other commenters on this site; you’re universally belligerent and cantankerous in your defense of islam.
JawsV says
You haven’t seen anything. I never defend Islam. You’re a liar. How long you going to keep this idiocy up, bonehead? You really are a moron.
Rarely says
JawsV and 6woods
Muslims certainly don’t have a corner on the wife abuse or murder markets. There are two large ethnic groups here in Canada that will not be far behind. BUT their religion(s) doesn’t sanction that abuse and those murders. THAT is the big difference. Virtually everyone in Canada and the U.S. is against the abuse of women except Islam and the Women’s Lib Movement.
Now divide up the marbles fairly boys, have your hot cocoa and go home to bed. Try to act a little more grown up tomorrow.
JawsV says
I’ve had to defend myself from the moron known as Woody who couldn’t cease from calling me a Muslim. Which is a total laugh. So, don’t put me in the same category with the little kid who has literally lost his marbles.
6woods says
Thanks, Rarely. I defer to sharkie’s impressive debating skills and hereby give him/her all the marbles. ?
JawsV says
Back again, Woody? You’re a Muslim! How are things in Muzzie-stan? Enjoying Islam? You can take all your previous insults and shove it, Muslim, a defender of Islam. Sicko.
gravenimage says
No, 6woods is not a Muslim. Again, opposing Muslim “Honor Killing” does not make one a Muslim.
JawsV says
gi, apparently you missed that 6woods called me a Muslim and “muzzie” in several comments. I said I wasn’t a Muslim but he ignored and continued to insult me with his slander and lies. Letting him see how it feels. Understand? A taste of his own medicine.
Lydia Church says
Another victim of “love jihad” hits the floor…
So tragic!
And what will become of the 3 children under 5?!
O :
gravenimage says
I hope they go to her family, and not the murderer’s.
Kay says
Yes! Let’s hope.
Peggy says
‘She said, “No mum, only when I go into the mosque because it’s disrespectful for a woman to show her face before God”.
=========================
So God can’t see you unless you are in a mosque?
Doesn’t that contradict the fact that he sees all and knows all? He even sees what’s in your heart and you believe that the can only see you in a mosque.
How sick are these people?
Jenny H says
‘She said, “No mum, only when I go into the mosque because it’s disrespectful for a woman to show her face before God”.
I’d have run a mile away from anything to do with Islam on hearing this statement anyway. It doesn’t make sense as a statement to confirm the validity of Islam.
Is Allah ashamed of his own creation? If Allah created her, why would a woman showing her face to Allah (or not), make any difference if Allah is supposed to be all seeing and all knowing?
infidel says
LOVE JEHAAD CLAIMS ANOTHER INNOCENT VICTIM!!!! THIS IS LOVE JEHAAD ,,.. IT IS A CURSE BROUGHT IN BY ISLAM AND MUSLIMS… BE READY TO HEAR MORE SUCH SORDID STORIES IN THE GREATER WEST AS MUSLIM POP EXPLODES IN UR LANDS IN THE FUTURE
MFritz says
Our women haven’t been suppressed and indoctrinated for generations to fully submit to their muslim husbands and their toxic ideology.
So once the dream of the happy life as a muslima comes to an end – sooner or later – Western women find out the hard way WHAT lurks behind the “exotic” front: (female) enslavement, utmost violence and absolute hatred against ANY kind of resistance.
Too bad Western leftists and feminists still consider islam to be their “ally”.
eduardo odraude says
In Australia, in New South Wales, they have a crime defined as “manslaughter by criminal negligence”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter#Australian_law
I guess he plea-bargained, agreed to plead guilty to criminally negligent manslaughter, and the prosecutors, to save the manpower and expense of a trial, decided it was a good enough deal and accepted the plea instead of trying to prove murder, a more serious crime than manslaughter.
I wonder what the punishment is in Australia for criminally negligent manslaughter…
eduardo odraude says
According to this
https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/offences/murder/manslaughter
the maximum penalty in New South Wales Australia for manslaughter is 25 years in prison.
eduardo odraude says
However, according to this
https://www.armstronglegal.com.au/criminal-law/offences/murder/first-offence
the average penalty in New South Wales Australia for a first offense of manslaughter is 6 years in prison.
I wonder what this guy got…
eduardo odraude says
According to the Daily Mail, he faces a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison, and will be sentenced July 20.
gravenimage says
Disgusting.
Kay says
It is always heartbreaking when a man hurts or murders his family members.
This case is particularly cruel as it seems there was extended torture and not “simply” a drug induced uncontrolled rage.
Poor young woman (who was a mere teenager when she got involved with this creep). Poor motherless children. Poor devastated grandmother.
Dugster H says
“It’s disrespectful to show a woman’s face before God”????? That right there should set he libtard femmes on fire against the muslim cult. Idiots.
mortimer says
No, Dug, the meaning and purpose of the Islamic veil is NOT PIETY! No, it is to CONCEAL the woman’s identity, good looks and eligibility from snooping males who may not be suitable marriage candidates.
The veil assures the woman is available for her FIRST MALE COUSIN who has the RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL.
This is Arab sociology 101.
Without cousin marriage, Islam will COLLAPSE.
Rufluc says
It simply astounds me how so many of our girls so readily go with these Muslim heathens, only for them to then become totally subjucated and cut off from their families. The brain washing of these girls is far too easy, and the Muslim barbarians know this, so exploit it to the full. The younger the girls, the easier it is., which is why the UK has experienced such a huge grooming problem with up to 1 million of their under age girls, which inevitable leads to mass gang raping and sexual exploitation of them.
Does it happen the other way around though? ie. Muslim girls going with white Christian guys? No it does not!! Why? Because male Muslims forbid it and save their girls as virgins for themselves, whilst maintaining full access to non Muslim girls, purely to satisfy their filthy sexual perversions and pleasure, at the same time spreading their diseases to these girls. In other words they are just ‘easy meat!’.
But if anyone tries to forbid a white girl going with these barbarians, they instantly get labelled a racist, a bigot an I S L A M O P H O B E!! Do Muslims get labeled the same when they stop their girls from becoming involved with a non Muslim? Of course they don’t, they just claim their culture doesn’t allow it, which effectively means our Western authorities have simply allowed the Muslim invaders to live in our society above the law. Any opposition or criticism against Muslims is now considered as a ‘Hate’ law, so instead they are allowed to continue their filthy perversions with impunity!
To make things worse, the majority of white girls have also been infected with the left wing virus that makes them totally blind to the dangers these heathens pose. So if anyone tries to educate them with the facts, many just flatly refuse to listen. Such is the power of this ‘virus’, and that sadly is the dichotomy that we in the West are facing.
If nothing tis done to stop this insanity, civil war will be an inevitable consequence!
Z says
What have women done to make Muslims hate them so much?
gravenimage says
Just being female–generally smaller than Muslim men–makes them victims under Islam. Children are often victims, on the same basis. Islam sacralizes victimization of the weak.
Carol the 1st says
Been dependent? Been independent? Been capable of taking their honest measure?
dumbledoresarmy says
I had a look at the article.
There is something toward the end that is *very* important, and relevant to any Aussie jihadwatcher who resides in or near Melbourne.
“Naddaf, who faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison, will appear at a sentencing hearing on July 20.
“**Avi Yemini, of the Australian Liberty Alliance, is organising a rally outside the Supreme Court on that day.** (my emphasis – dda).
“We’re gong to demand justice for Ashlee and that this doesn’t happen to anyone else,’ Mr Yemini said.
‘You can make it out as it’s just another domestic violence case but it isn’t.”
Precisely. And I hope Mr Yemini and the ALA will be offering passers-by copies of Phyllis Chesler’s articles on ‘honor’ murders, and copies of the Spengler article, “Wife-Beating, Sharia and Western Law””and that sample copies of the books ‘Not Without My Daughter” and “An American Bride in Kabul” will be on display, to get passers-by thinking. Hold a ‘read-in’!!
Melbourne jihadwatchers: your job is to get in touch with the Australian Liberty Alliance, and BE THERE on July 20th, outside the Supreme Court, in Melbourne, to raise awareness of the deadly dangerousness of marrying Muslims. Bring copies of Quran 4:34, to show that Islam explicitly teaches a man to beat his wife if he so much as ‘fears’ that she *might* prove ‘rebellious’. She doesn’t have to have actually done anything; he can flog her on the grounds of mere *suspicion*.
Quite apart from the Islam aspect, it sounds to me, from the report, that the case cries out to be reopened, and that ALL the forensic evidence – or were the forensics team *utterly* clueless? has the evidence been destroyed? where is it and what is it? – ought to be carefully re-examined by a crack team of experts.
I simply fail to understand how the attacker – whether it was this vile Mohammedan, who is the most likely suspect, or some other person or persons (other Mohammedan or mohammedans?) – cannot have left even the slightest trace of their presence and culpability, whether in the car or garage or anywhere else in the house.