The policeman tells Southern repeatedly that she would be charged with breaching the peace if she ventures into a Muslim area of Sydney. But the people who would actually have been breaching the peace would have been the Muslims who might have rioted had she been there. As far as the police are concerned, however, they bear no responsibility for their actions; the responsibility lies entirely with those who might “provoke” them.
This reminds me of the aftermath of our free speech event in Garland, Texas in 2015 that was attacked by jihadis. Numerous media figures who should have known better attacked Pamela Geller, as if it were her fault that jihadis attacked our event — implying that she should not have exercised her freedom of speech in the face of violent intimidation. I was likewise excoriated by people who told me that the jihad attack was essentially my fault: I shouldn’t have provoked the Muslims to attack.
In reality, if someone commits a murder or an assault, the responsibility lies with the perpetrator, not the victim. But as Islamic advocacy groups relentlessly disclaim responsibility for jihad terror and shift it onto the victims, while claiming victim status for themselves, that point is being lost. And free societies are likewise being lost, as this video demonstrates.
Julian Farmer says
Australia shame on you! Sharia facilitators.
shoehorn says
I am ashamed and embarrased that my taxes pay this bozo to restrict the freedom of speech and the freedom of movement of this visitor to our shores.
GP says
+1
frane says
soon this country will fall as England and Germany has to the monsters of muslim and sharia god help them but its way to late from the day the first one stepped on your shore!!
Susan B says
Frane, it is never too late, evil will lose in the end. However the price of complacency in the interim is very high.
Andy says
Why Lauren Southern Really Got BANNED From Lakemba
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cviGTU34WLs
SHARIA BLASPHEMY LAW IN AUSTRALIA | Lauren Southern Threatened By Police
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WoKnW4WjD0
Andy says
This is coming to ALL Countries,
Unless,
WE the Patriots stand up now and fight for our Judeo-Christian Civilization
tim gallagher says
So true, Andy. From what I read about many countries in Europe, mainly here on Jihad Watch, this sort of garbage has already arrived rather than coming. The concern for the police is the vicious violence and thuggery that they know the Muslims will flare up into, unlike other more civilised groups, so the police seek to keep a lid on things. The police probably genuinely don’t have the resources needed to protect a person like Lauren Southern and she could have been badly hurt or even killed very quickly in that foul area Lakemba, a notorious MUslim area of Sydney. Things could flare up very quickly and it would take quite a long time to get the riot squad there.. The thing is everyone should realise (including our idiotic politicians and media type morons) that, unless you stop letting more Muslims into the country, things are going to get worse and worse. The only answer is to stop letting Muslims in. And, politicians and media, stop pretending things are going fine in multicultural Australia, because nothing could be further from the truth. It should have been obvious for at least 15 to 20 years to anyone with even half a brain. Letting Muslim migration continue really is like that saying ascribed to Einstein, “insanity is doing the same thing over and over (ie letting in Muslims) and expecting a different result (as in peace and harmony). As far as I can see, it’s the same in every other country dumb (or insane) enough to keep letting Muslims in. All I can say is that our political leaders have to get the courage to do the right thing and stop destroying our countries. They are traitors otherwise. As I’ve said before, I sometimes think our politicians must have said, “Oh, it’s all a bit boring and peaceful here, let’s spice things up by letting violent Islam in”. But, Andy, I don’t think enough people in Australia have woken from their slumber to get anything done yet. That’s the main problem.
Giacomo Latta says
This should be mandatory viewing for all politicians in the Western world.
Martin says
The politicians are not going to change. We must change them.
Andy says
+1
Peggy says
Where do you think the cops got their orders from?
Andy says
I stand corrected Tim. You are absolutely correct, the problem has already arrived, and is not coming as I said in a earlier writing.
Cheers Mate
Andy says
Lauren Southern Islam Is Winning Because The West Has Lost Its Identity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TizniY5ULw
tim gallagher says
Yes, Andy, the troubles that Muslims inevitably bring are already making their mark in so many countries. But you are definitely right to point out how much worse is to come to all our countries if our politicians don’t wake up, face reality, and end Muslim migration. It’s going to get so much worse. I guess you could say that in many countries, although we’ve got problems, we ain’t seen nothing yet. It’ll end up being hellish. I think everyone should be able to see this by now. It has to be prevented. Somehow we have to get our political leaders to wake up and do the right thing for our countries. I hadn’t watched any videos of Lauren Southern until these ones here. She seems very wise and in touch with reality, especially for such a young person, to say nothing of how brave she obviously is, putting herself in harm’s way the way she does..
GP says
I live in Australia…..and I am DISGUSTED by the dishonesty and lack of transparency over this problem of muslim enclaves. This is NOT multiculturalism……this is a take-over!
Andy says
+1
Del says
To hell with Australia. I thought Aussies had more balls than that. Muslim asskissers.
Jennifer Appel says
I like that. No doubt Lauren gets to live another day, and there is no violence, BUT her right to walk around and express her opinion, freely is severely challenged.
i recall several years ago, protesters holding a hunger strike in Melbourne, over a boat load of people, seeking ? asylum. little did they know that some of those people were only on the boat to infiltrate, an cause an issue. Some were genuine refugees. it is sad that we cannot be a nurturing community, but faced with the challenges of identifying risk vs benevolence, we have to do for the greater good.
Frank Anderson says
In the US, but not necessarily in Australia, I think this would be a hard case to prosecute her for breaching the peace. If all she wants to do is walk unmolested on a “public” street or sidewalk, without a demonstration group that could require a permit, the police could be violating her civil right of free movement under color of state law, which I think is included in the Hobbs Act, 18 United States Code Section 1951. I think its good for 20 years for the public officials who get convicted. Ask Alabama politicians Gary Greenough and Dan Alexander. I wonder how much longer countries will get along without written constitutional guarantees that cannot be changed at the whim of the government? Of course there are plenty of other arguments that would differ. There are many places locally where I would prefer not to walk unarmed and unescorted.
If I were driving, for example, my vehicle breaks down and I have to walk through such an area, ????? That is where multiple tape recorders and body cams would be precious.
Allan White says
You are aware are you not of what happened to David Wood and Nabil in Dearborn in the US?
Frank Anderson says
No, I am not. The best argument I can see contrary to the one I proposed is that such a walk for the purpose of causing an “incident” when the police “order” not to take the walk could result in a charge of “failing to obey”. Then the issue would be whether the order was lawful. I have had an officer issue a flatly illegal order to me with a video and audio camera running. He won’t be doing that any more.
Lawyers make arguments and appeal cases. Judges and juries make decisions which frequently can be appealed in a civilized society. One particularly corrupt lawyer who may still be sitting on the supreme court of a state said to me, “It’s not illegal until a judge says so.” So he was free to blackmail until a judge that he had in his pocket told him to stop. The US legal system has its problems.
I see another difference between taking a walk down a public street and distributing literature which may require some kind of permit.
Thank you for telling me about the Wood case.
Michael Copeland says
David Wood and his colleagues sued Dearborn police for infringing their Constitutional rights. Wood and co won.
Since that case the Dearborn Arab Festival has been unable to obtain insurance, and has not been held.
Frank Anderson says
A most pleasing result. Hope the award was large and fully paid.
Marcia says
Try breaking down and walking in some neighborhoods of NYC or Chicago or any inner city for that matter. If you are not of their color or (lack of) affluence, you most likely will be beaten and robbed and probably left for dead.
Frank Anderson says
We have the Second Amendment where I live and a very strong pro-self defense law.
Westman says
Yup. It appears that the function of Ausralian police is control and when there are conflicting parties that control is used on whichever party is less threatening from a police perspective.
Frank Anderson says
I was not until you brought the situation to my attention. Where I live distributing “papers” at a street location could require a permit, while walking down a sidewalk or along a street as an individual or small group should not. Please see the note I posted earlier. Thank you for telling me about the Wood case.
gravenimage says
Frank, here’s a video of what happened in Dearborn:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID1_Sc7lZ2w
The police also did nothing when these peaceful people were physically attacked.
Frank Anderson says
GI, please remember the police have no duty to enforce the law. Under US law a whole department of officers can witness my murder in front of the police headquarters and do nothing. My estate will have no claim against them for violating my civil right to live. Sick ruling from the DC Circuit Court of Appeals regarding a case where women were held captive for most of a day, the police repeatedly called by neighbors in response to beatings and cries, the police doing nothing until the gang left.
gravenimage says
I am aware of this Frank–I find it disturbing, and am sure that most other Americans do, as well.
We have largely turned over enforced defense of our safety over to police–this makes sense in a civilized society, so we don’t all have to live in moated castles for protection. But it only works if the police actually act to protect us.
Joe says
GI, we are all police in America. The uniformed police are paid to be police. The rest of us are obligated by our citizenship to do it for free. In many locations (but by law in all locations), if you see a crime and do nothing, you can be charged. At the very least, you need to report the crime.
Frank Anderson says
It may or may not surprise you that the US Supreme Court agreed with you in the case of In re Quarles in 1895, and has cited Quarles approximately 24 times since. In 1 case the duty of US citizens to aid law enforcement was traced back to the Magna Carta. The only reason “sanctuary” jurisdictions exist is corruption and incompetence in the Department of “Justice”.
Peggy says
Frank Anderson says
Jul 28, 2018 at 4:52 pm
GI, please remember the police have no duty to enforce the law.
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Frank, what is their duty then?
Frank Anderson says
Peggy, I am not making this up. I cannot remember the name of the case where a number of women were held captive in DC by a motorcycle gang, repeatedly beaten and raped for most of a day. Neighbors heard both sounds of blows and screams, called the police repeatedly, who came a few times. The first time a gang member answered the door and denied anything was going on. The police did nothing to enter and search. A second police visit ended when the door was not answered. Only when the gang left and one of the women crawled out naked and bleeding did the police finally see there were crimes being committed. The women sued. The DC Circuit Court of Appeals, considered by some to be the second highest federal court in the US, ruled the women had no claim; that the police have no duty to protect individuals that gives rise to a claim in a lawsuit.
The National Rifle Association can provide the case name and details where I am in error. This case is frequently mentioned to support the need for a most basic right recognized as part of civilization as long as there have been civilizations, until recently, that being self-defense.
If you can find the case I believe the court wrote the only duty police have is a totally discretionary duty (their choice), which in my understanding is no duty at all, to “protect society” as a whole rather than any individual. I welcome any correction of errors or deficiencies. Thank you for your question.
Peggy says
Frank Anderson says
Jul 29, 2018 at 9:51 pm
Peggy, I am not making this up
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I know you’re not, it’s just that I am so shocked.
I just wondered what their job description is if coming to our aid isn’t.
Frank Anderson says
As far as being subject to lawsuits for failure to protect us individuals, their only duty is to collect a paycheck and a really generous pension and go home at the end of the shift. Your shock is in my opinion completely justified.
gravenimage says
Agree, Joe.
Even when the police are not compromised, the saying “when seconds count the police are only minutes away” often holds true. This is no criticism of the police in general, just an acknowledgement of reality.
VRWC member77 says
This kind of thing has already occurred in America with David Wood actually being arrested in Dearborn 9 years ago because he was handing out Christian literature.
Brian hoff says
Than retire police officer told me in the year 1955 in New York City one white man went into than all black neighborhood shouting racical insult so a group of black men came out than beat him up. Than white police officer who hid himself told him you are luckly that I than not arresting you for inding than riot.
Frank Anderson says
A deputy sheriff stopped me because I slowed down to force someone threatening me with murder to force him to pass, then the deputy did the same thing claiming he didn’t see the car 10 feet from my bumper on the interstate. I caught both threats on camera and took it to the sheriff. Officers can arrest, prosecutors can prosecute. Judges and juries can convict. Appeals courts can reverse. Look at what happened to many police officers who abuse their office. Look at what happened to Mike Nifong for his corrupt prosecution of the Duke Lacrosse players.
gravenimage says
I see that the vicious “Brian hoff” is preaching savagery here. I am *no* fan of racial epithets, but there is no speech that gives anyone the right to assault someone.
If this about the police officer is correct, then it is really quite appalling.
And note what “DefenderofIslam” is *really* saying here–that if Muslims don’t like someone like someone saying that Islam is violent then they have the right to beat, rape, or murder them. *Ugh*.
vlparker says
Conquered land, indeed. In 4 short minutes this video tells you all you need to know about islam and about the left.
Ole Pederson says
It is the women’s fault if they get raped.
Same line of thought. Shame to the police cowards to agree with that.
Bob Carrillo says
And now in Minneapolis, the Somali “community” (the largest in the nation) is demanding that a WALL ($850,000 of taxpayer money) be built around their “NoGoZone” called “Little Mogadishu”..
Susan B says
Bob, sounds like a good idea, they would of course be cut off welfare since they have walled off from America, they would have to negotiate a trade deal with America for goods and services. They of course would as a non American area not receive any free services for health or support of any kind. Make sure no one comes out or goes in without the permission of America authorities since they would be passing through American territory. In due course they would beg to come back into America, but their begging would be refused instead they should be offered a one way ticket to that wonderful paradise of SomHolia.
Paul says
I think that could be the start of a movement.
Create what are effectively ghettos and …leave them there.
We would miss their contributions to society such as sexual assaults, bombing, victimhood and FGM. But we could rough it through.
Sign me up !
Paul
somehistory says
If it’s “no go,” then no one should be allowed out unless it’s someone wishing to leave islam.
“no go in and no go out” zones for those who wish to live by the devil’s code of unlawful conduct. Like a penal island.
gravenimage says
Somehistory–with all respect–I don’t think any of the civilized West should be ceding its territory to Islam.
gravenimage says
Here’s the story:
“Democrat-run city building 6-foot fence around migrant housing complex to keep ‘intruders’ out”
https://leohohmann.com/2018/05/08/democrat-run-city-building-6-foot-fence-around-migrant-housing-complex-to-keep-intruders-out/
Actually, I just hope it protects some of the neighbors from these violent Mohammedans.
Japetto Danatelli says
This is our new life under islam, we are “breaching the peace” for living free in our own nations. There’s a recent vid posted where British patriots are told to put their Union flag away or they might cause a riot–In f*cking Britain! Of course it’s always for “our own protection” that we’re denied our civil rights, but unsurprisingly a guy wearing a Palestinian flag on his shirt was free to roam. We’re told these muslims are a fine contribution to our nations and are good citizens, but we can’t hold our own flag and be patriotic because they might riot or hurt us. Our women and kids can’t walk the streets or they risk getting raped by horny muslim men; we can’t feel safe in public because they might blow us up or stab us in the neck for allah; we’re driven from our homes because their enclaves eschew diversity with non-muslims; we can’t speak our minds because muslims are offended by the truth… it’s clear to me that living “diversity” with muslims means we sacrifice everything for them. What do they ever give us in return? I’ll tell you–terrorism, FGM, acid in the face, honor killings, antisemitism and homophobia, mass rape, bigoted sharia zones, welfare depletion, nasty enclaves, and a murderous hypersensitivity against every little thing we do or say. These aren’t “contributors” to our society they are vampires sucking the life out of us. And then add insult to injury we must constantly hear how muslims are the victims; yes, in between the murder and rape of our people and the destruction of our freedoms and culture they’re somehow the victims. Rod Serling couldn’t have come up with a more bizarre twist for his Twilight Zone.
Stop the madness! It’s time to clean house and restore order to our nations! There is no room in Western society for a Nazi-style religion of hate and murder, not if we value peace and human rights over murder and slavery!
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah Allah, god of the muslims.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwsFgFvwgvw&t=20s
Frank Anderson says
J.D., this is the polarized response I see in Germany before Hitler came to power. Many speakers I have seen on TV programs and writers in the many books I have read who were “there” did not see a peaceful alternative to the Nazi and Communist mobs and their violence. Whether law enforcement was on one side or the other, or was indifferent, law enforcement was ineffective at providing law-abiding citizens peace and security. It is not my place to tell you how to feel or act in the current situation. I can ask whether you see any third alternative available, including electing judges and lawmakers who will enforce your rights under the Constitution. If that does not happen, I think we are doomed either to become an Islamic or other totalitarian state with no rights or liberties of our own. I do not think there is time to waste.
Andy says
Lauren Southern challenges multiculturalism in Melbourne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q0ocGe56AE
Frank Anderson says
Andy I opposed multiculturalism where I am. Like many before me, if a person comes where I am come to be a part of what is present here, not what is past there.
Japetto Danatelli says
She’s doing good work, I admire her and commend her brilliant efforts for freedom. I think we’re seeing a rising star in the fight against islamic supremacy. Every time I see a good soul step forward for human rights against islamic tyranny I feel great comfort. It’s like a big shot of Demerol in my body where the tension of living with islam is alleviated just a little bit more. It’s like feeling you’re stuck in an insane asylum and then out of the blue up walks a lucid and brilliant soul to remind you that, yes, you really are sane in your beliefs and correct in your morals. That’s what Lauren Southern is to me, a brilliant soul in a world gone crazy for islam. Thank you, Gorgeous, and thank the heavens for sending one more blazing star to lead the way.
Andy says
Frank, I am not against multiculturalism. I am against different cultures not assimulating into our Western Judeo-Christian Civilization.
The old saying is when in Rome do as the Romans do, Not the Romans have to do what the Immigrant did in the “old” country.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When visiting a foreign land, follow the customs of those who live in it. It can also mean that when you are in an unfamiliar situation, you should follow the lead of those who know the ropes.
Now we have a very VERY big problem with Islam, Who only want sharia for Everyone.
Most people realize by now that this is a globalist plan to take over the world.
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSC4tESjTEU
The Globalist plan – Puppets for the Deep State
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD2K6ruMzpQ
Japetto Danatelli says
I am against different cultures not assimulating into our Western Judeo-Christian Civilization.
Yes, I am also against non-assimilating peoples, especially when those who refuse to assimilate are loyal to a foreign ideology while they mass rape and terrorize innocent civilians. There’s nothing inherently wrong with “multiculturalism.” But when you’re confronted with a hostile demographic who, as a collective enterprise, seeks to undermine your society via subversion and terror then it’s time to rethink the multicultural philosophy. And that’s what islam is to me, a collective threat in which none of them are guilty but all of them are guilty. I’m not talking about the muslims who rape and kill us, they are obviously guilty. I’m talking about the peaceful, “nice” muslims who stay within the confines of the law while promoting islamic doctrine and culture as superior to our own freedoms and culture. It isn’t only the terrorists who want sharia and blasphemy laws for their retarded/violent religion, it’s the majority of mainstream muslims who want it too. This is very bad for the safety of our nations, because we are inviting in all the same elements we would typically fight to the death in war. Somehow that just doesn’t make sense to me.
PRCS says
Multiculturalism, where different cultures live along side one another–without acculturation or assimilation–is antithetical to he U.S. motto “e pluribus unum” out of many, one).
Andy says
Check this out everyone:
Social Integration and Western Immigration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWx2Z_goQTI
gravenimage says
Again, Frank, I don’t think that Germany ever had to embrace Fascism.
Frank Anderson says
GI, tell me what choice, any choices at all, that you think were present to compete with Nazism? Stop putting words in my mouth that I am not writing. The people who were alive and there, who saw and heard what was happening, could not see a third choice. What do you see about 80 years later that people alive at the time missed? In the absence of honest law enforcement: Where is the third choice between violent alternatives present then or now?
To keep accusing me of writing in favor of Fascism, which would (as would Communism) almost certainly kill me as soon as possible for my refusal to let anyone think for me, is incorrect and misleading. A violent “thesis”, to use a Marx term, will force some violent “antithesis” again a Karl Marx term, unless there is some non-violent alternative available. Whether that “antithesis” is called Fascism, Nazism or any other label, a violent response or a suicidal surrender are the only reasonably foreseeable outcomes in the absence of a non-violent alternative. How can a non-violent alternative response be created before the window of opportunity to create it closes? I assure you for all time that I am neither in favor of any totalitarian rule, nor suicide. Always best wishes.
gravenimage says
Dear Frank, I *assure you* I was not meaning to imply that you support or supported Fascism. I absolutely know you do not, and sorry if I did not make that clear.
As for what I would have done at the time, I hope I would have been prescient enough to get out, assuming I had the means to do so.
Short of that, I would have tried to keep a low profile, and live a quietly decent life as much as I could. I would not have joined either the Communists or the Fascists, unless my family was threatened and I felt there was no choice. Then, I would have tried to do as little as possible to support the Nazis.
Sometimes people have very little choice–but I would never have enthusiastically embraced Fascism. Even early on it revealed itself as ugly and violent.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I am as nearly certain as I can be that you and I, and many others would be in the same position then as we are now. I keep raising the issue to illustrate the *NEED* now to find a third alternative to a violent response. There may or may not be a non-violent alternative available. There may or may not be a window of opportunity for one to both appear and be made to happen. We have just completed reading a book, the first hundred pages of which cover the period that I suggest is most representative of the current situation. The book matches all that I have read and viewed regarding the quandary I believe represents then and now.
Between the end of WWI and January 30, 1933 there was some possibility, extremely remote, for people to realize that both Communism and Nazism wanted to take over control of all lives and end a number of them. The character (person) who attracted my attention was “Martha” who for some reason became so opposed to the ‘violence” of the Nazi’s that she totally ignored the massive violence and murder of the Communists, becoming a Communist spy for the rest of her life.
Today, we are bombarded daily with a drumbeat of violence ordered by a “religion of peace”. We are suffering from the same failure of law enforcement to stop, not control or mitigate, but cold, dead stop the violence that takes place all around us on any scale we consider. Enough people are seeing a need for action, that includes non-legal alternatives, especially where the basic civil right of self-defense is being denied by a corrupt government. As was the case in Germany, both “sides” wanted total control. Both sides were ready to slaughter. I mentioned Poland a few days ago, where both the Communists and Nazis slaughtered tens of thousands of “troublemakers” early on after their takeover, only to continue the slaughter well past the surrender of 1945. During the war, I have heard that 1 Pole in 5 was murdered either by Communists or Nazis.
A third way must be found and enacted or history may repeat.
Coonie says
It is not very reassuring to see this video. Here in Canada, Trudeau defends all actions of Muslims, our freedom of expression decreases … we will end up with prohibited neighborhoods to the West, that’s for sure!
Andy says
Remember Coonie,
Diversity is our strength.
Trudeau knows the rule of divide and conquer!
Divide and conquer definition is – to make a group of people disagree and fight with one another so that they will not join together against one.
Carol the 1st says
Here’s a good sign:
Steve Bannon Starts ‘The Movement’ to Take Down the EU!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi8mnTQdgnY
Carol the 1st says
Coonie…Michelle Rempel seems to have the right idea:
How can we remove Justin Trudeau from office?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuFFFRwLZfk&t=11s
Andy says
Thanks Carol the 1st for the video’s.
James Lincoln says
Lauren Southern tries to enter a No Go Zone in Sydney and runs right up against Sharia law.
Coming to a city near you?
This is a truly frightening video…
The US Supreme Court needs to promptly review a case dealing with Sharia law vis-à-vis the U.S. Constitution.
Also…
Some individual states have passed bans on Sharia law but the U.S. Congress has to deal with this on a national level.
Frank Anderson says
Mr. Lincoln, please consider a suggestion to talk with a currently licensed and practicing lawyer who has substantial experience in declaratory judgment actions in federal court. A lawyer with such experience can provide better guidance, and be better recognized in court. A paid consultation would be a bargain. Estimating a budget for a decade or more of litigation and appeals would be enlightening. Raising the money to cover the war would be something of a challenge. A victory could be worth it. “The longest journey begins. . .”
mortimer says
Thank you, Mr. Anderson, that is what I was thinking too, but you expressed it elegantly.
It seems that news reporters like Lauren Southern are now required to have a LAWYER ACCOMPANY THEM when they go out to get interviews.
The police in supposedly free countries now have the right to arrest you if you practice your freedom of expression or your freedom of assembly.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, in my area most law enforcement officers are the highest quality. A few should be in jail for letting power get to them. I have learned that recording keeps people more honest. When that fails it helps get the ones who need to be doing something else off the force. Under US federal law, which beats any state law by Article 6 Clause 2, The Supremacy Clause, we have the unfettered right to record any conversation to which we are a party. 18 United States Code Section 2511 (c) and (d). Parties certainly include speaker and hearer. I am not sure that anyone has tested the question of a third party witness, such as you watching while I am being attacked. I think in the situation of a witness, your recording a conversation that you are observing is included. Please consult a currently licensed and practicing attorney in your jurisdiction for legal advice.
Berengaria says
If the Aussie Authorities have submitted to Sharia Law, then they should explain that to Lauren & let her know that Australia can no longer protect Civilized Visitors to their Country.
If excuses such as “It’s Highly Religious Down There” so Civilized
People are no longer advised to walk there, then we know that means the Aussies have submitted & Police are now being used as Official Protectors of Islam.
Mark Australia Off Your Future Travel Plans & Get the Hell out of there.
somehistory says
She’s being “asked” but it is really a command. If she proceeds to go anyway, she gets arrested and charged with the crimes that the moslims commit.
The government is giving the moslims exactly what they want….to live according to their evil, filthy, cult and not be held responsible if they commit a crime against a non moslim.
the police should just put up signs, “Proceed at your own risk,” and “We cannot be held responsible for what may happen to you.” Signs like zoos have near the lions cage, or the polar bear enclosure.
mortimer says
SO, IT’S NOW ILLEGAL TO STAND NEAR A MOSQUE BECAUSE MUSLIMS MIGHT RIOT?
So for comparison, what would happen if Lauren Southern had stood in front of a Presbyterian church or a Baptist church or an orthodox synagogue seeking interviews? Would the inspector come from his office at the police station to stop her? No, he would not.
THIS IS A TACIT ADMISSION THAT MUSLIMS ARE VIOLENT, especially if they are “HIGHLY RELIGIOUS”.
The inspector tacitly ACKNOWLEDGED THAT “HIGHLY RELIGIOUS” Muslims are dangerous like TIME BOMBS!
Japetto Danatelli says
Good observation, Mortimer. Whether he had intended to or not, this cop was talking honestly about islam and muslims. Yes, to be “highly religious” for islam means there is a substantial risk of violence. But the islamic religion is more than “violent,” it’s also oppressive, ignorant, discriminatory, and brutal. This is what we’ve been saying, and this is why we don’t want islam in our nation(s).
Carol the 1st says
Japetto…Gatestone Institute just put out this article:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12773/germany-salafists
it discusses the BfV report. One section you may find interesting is where it discusses the propensity for violence not only with JIHADIST Salafists but with POLITICAL Salafists as well. It explains why the two Salafist currents have “easy-to-bridge views on the use of violence.
Peggy says
The inspector tacitly ACKNOWLEDGED THAT “HIGHLY RELIGIOUS”
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If they are highly religious then they should be highly peaceful because after all, isn’t Islam a religion of peace?
gravenimage says
Ha ha
Andy says
Your absolutely correct Peggy!
That is a good observation!
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, the “tacit admission rule” in the US is described as “you” saying something about “me” that is somehow harmful, and then “I” fail to respond in protest. My silence is argued, with or without success, to be a *tacit* admission. There is nothing *tacit*, in my understanding, about a cop admitting whose side he is on by plain language for all to hear and record.
A great case discussed in the first year of Torts was about a dog that allegedly bit a neighbor while the owner was *WAY* far from home. But the owner said he was sorry his dog bit the neighbor without any other evidence. He paid for the bite solely because he admitted in total ignorance that his dog bit the neighbor. Admissions can cost a lot, and should be rarely made until everything is known,.
Angry Aussie says
We just had a pastor, Pastor Ligan Robertson, deported back to New Zealand (although he left voluntarily in the end), for daring to upset a few Muslims in Brisbane. He visited a mosque, after prearranging it with the imam. On arrival, he was bombarded by media that Ali Kadri, spokesperson for Muslims in Queensland, had organised. It ended being a bit of a yelling match. Ali Kadri went into sull swing with taqiyya double speak. Pator Logan asked how old Aysha was when Mohammed married her, and never got an answer. Instead Ali feigned victimhood on behalf of all Muslims, and the Pastor was locked up. Ali is still writing to newspapers and holding interviews about how difficult it is for Muslims to find a safe place in Australia.
Lauren was in New South Wales, in Lakemba. Nobody goes there because it is an Islamic cesspit/enclave. Of course she should be able to go, and would have been able to go. Except it would not have been safe. Pauline Hanson has been screamed at there, and Imam Tawhidi has bern attacked. I know of one fellow that handed out Islamic awareness literature there. He got chased and attacked.
Was Lauren stupid for going there? She should have been able to. Any of us should. The reality is that it does provoke the goat humpers, and the police wouldn’t have been able to protect her safety, because they behave like a pack of rabid dogs. Do we need her dead to prove a poinr? No, because nothing will change. At least this way she lives to fight another day.
Lakemba is a shithole.
PRCS says
And speaking of goat humpers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5BdrZnhwE
Japetto Danatelli says
Hilarious.
gravenimage says
Very funny!
Norger says
That’s what I thought was probably the case. I actually don’t blame the cop; I think he was worried about his ability to control the situation. Ms. Southern probably would have required a considerable amount of police manpower for her to walk safely in the vicinity of the mosque.
Susan B says
Norger, so why is a no go zone allowed to happen in a free country? Does Australia not have a military to go in and deport all those islamic traitors to their own hell holes? I guess not when your government like mine is controlled by islam.
gravenimage says
+1
Peggy says
Then this situation has to be fixed so that anyone can walk on any street.
It should not have been allowed to happen in the first place, but since it has it has to be fixed.
So as they breed like rabbits and expand and move into more areas they will just forbid us to enter those areas thus making us lose more and more ground.
If the cop needs help to fix this then he has to insist that he gets it.
Jack Flag says
Outside Buckingham Palace in London, a young man who was flying the American Stars and Stripes plus a Union Jack was quickly told by police: “you’re not allowed to fly any flags in a Royal Park”. The public area outside Buckingham Palace is part of the Royal Parks.
The young man was threatened with arrest if he did not leave the area. The thing is, there is no statute law in the UK which bans flag flying, so is there any legal basis to support what the police said? Moreover, what would the young man have actually been charged with if he had chosen not to leave the area?
From the video, there has been a breach of international flag protocol because one national flag was flying above another. But a protocol breach is not a criminal offence here in the UK!
This matter needs to be looked into further.
Video here: (note, the video title mentions a Trump flag, and yes, the American flag had a picture of President Trump, but the policeman said “you’re not allowed to fly ANY flags in a Royal Park”)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQoJ2_h0jEA
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link.
Crusades Were Right says
I wonder what kind of people actually want a police state?
That’s a toughie, isn’t it?
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Crusades Were Right says
Testing
Crusades Were Right says
First comment didn’t show for a while, if you’re interested.
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Crusades Were Right says
What next?
“Sorry, you can’t participate in this election because I have reason to believe it would cause a great deal of annoyance to the Muslims if your candidate won. So drop the ballot paper on the floor and leave the polling station – NOW!”
Coming… soon?
gravenimage says
Australia: Police forbid Lauren Southern to walk in Muslim area — “It’s highly religious down there”
………………….
That Australian citizens can be charged with “breaching the peace” by venturing into parts of *their own cities* is simply grotesque.
Are parts of Sydney now officially Dar-al-Islam?
Peggy says
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Susan B says
Peggy that pretty much sums up the state many western countries are in.
Michael Copeland says
The State caves in to the threat of violence.
Democracy has been killed in Lakemba.
Sharia rules.
As the placards say, “Islam Will Dominate”. This is how it is done – by thuggery.
Lydia Church says
Yes Robert, that is the correct line of reasoning.
Like they try to blame the rape victim for the rape.
Now regarding the cartoon thing, yes, people totally have the right to do it. It’s not that I would not do it for fear of reactions, but also I would not do it just to prove that I have the right. For other reasons I would abstain as I mentioned earlier. But no one should blame you for any attacks that result, of course not.
On another note, and this is not related to that last bit, but I would not go walking down a dark alley around midnight in a low cut top and mini skirt either.
: D
Susan B says
Lydia what you wear has little to do with rape. Rape is a crime of opportunity, so you could walk down a dart alley in a burka and be in danger. I am surprised that you as a women are not aware of that fact. It is your kind of thinking that allows a rapist to say it was because of what she wore. Rape is a crime of hate and what you wear has nothing to do with it.
Kasey says
What this cop is really saying is that”you can’t go there because in fact, that area is Islamic territory, which they will defend aggressively and you may get hurt”.
Giacomo Latta says
Islamic territory? You’ve been bought and sold! Where is Lauren’s right to not get hurt?
Peggy says
They’re defending “their” territory but we aren’t defending ours?
How stupid are some people that they can’t see this.
FYI says
“…..because it’s highly religious down there”
Yes, but what KIND of religion ,officer?
Would that be ..Tibetan Buddhists,Jains,Christian evangelists,Jews,harmless New Age hippies,Hare Krishnas menacing the public with tamborines?
Or is it ..that violent,antisocial,antisemitic,antichristian,misogynistic,loveless cult of a self-confessed terrorist and false prophet muhammed{al tabari 6:111}with its deceiver-god{k3:54} who teaches,acts and sounds remarkably like.. lucifer?
Yes,THAT one:the ironically named “Religion of Peace”
Question:-
what if it was a “highly irreligious area”?Atheists,Agnostics,Apostates from all religions living together?
“Oy!Ya can’t go down that street mate:It’s a highly irreligious area.It’s illegal, cobber”
Speaking of high officer,what exactly are you on?
gravenimage says
Damn good questions, FYI.
Giacomo Latta says
Sydney, you are one f***** up little town. No non-Muslim has the right to criticize Islam while Islam obviously has the right to criticize Christianity or other religions? (Note the ”there is no other god than Allah” brazenly written on a wall that may be viewed by the public.) Hey, Sweden, you’re being to fall behind in the race to be the number one first world s***hole country.
StellaSaidSo says
Sydney is not a ‘little town’. It is Australia’s largest city, with a population of approx. 5 million. Lakemba is a suburb in south-western Sydney, about 15 km from the CBD, with a population of around 20,000, of whom the majority are Muslim. While the growth of Muslim enclaves in our cities is alarming, Australia is a long way yet from matching Sweden or UK in the ‘no go zone’ stakes.
Yogi says
They live in Australia and this savages put this public sign : “ There is no other God than Allah “ a You kidding me !!, they occupy Mostly Christian territory!!, it’s absolutely disgusting how West is weak to this parasites..
underbed cat says
Lauren stated there was no referendum to bring in Islam…to the west. Of course not, that would never work, first they will be obligated by the Quran to travel to other countries. Then the work to settle large numbers and have multiple wives and children in cities, then build mosques and organizations that will fund families, educate the capable to get a education to find jobs or careers that could land them in positions of authorities.As time passes they then can start joining political parties. During this time, they must not divulge the more brutal laws of sharia. They cannot speak honestly, nor allow the plan that may take years of migration to execute to be known so they stay relatively peaceful, until political influence is established and the target population is unaware..of the warfare , to come. It has worked, a well oiled machine. If asked questions about terror,they are not allowed to say anything that would lead to the use of terror for victory. Along comes a technological breakthrough that contains a data base of information by the studious and curious. As terror events heat up the information shows the leader was made “victorious thru terror” and that will rise to the surface. The denial of terror is now secure thru hate speech laws, and incitement concerns for speaking the truth sets up the advising national security with false information and possible cash, they use our laws and freedom to conquer our government and implement sharia law. So various types or any type of warfare makes the scene, the far left has an ally, the right is to blame and sharia law and terror silence the truth and everyone who speaks is a racist. But many have worked to inform and suddenly people are listening when video and the bold try to save the uninformed diversity crowd. There are many countries 57 under the foot of islam, very few didn’t get terrorized and deceived first by a political plan of deception and the cover of religion in my opinion. As Lauren stated the resistance was practicing sharia law…..and no referendum needed just plain lack of diligence to protect freedom. Grateful for her work and the work of all counter jihadist and there are large numbers growing.
frane says
religion Hell its terrorism on your shores!!
Guest says
I am Canadian!
Lauren Southern is my kinda girl. Not your typical overly polite, timid, apologetic, mainstream media deferential, politically correct doormat of a Canadian.
She exposed the internal societal rot here in Shithole Canada, and WOKE a lot of people up to the corrosive effects of the Islamo-Feminazi coalition and now demand for her laser focused no bullshit approach is drawing her to other Shitholes in the world where her services are needed.
Many up here on the correct side of the world had this picture in their minds of Australia being the land of no nonsense, shit kicking hard asses like Crocodile Dundee, who would handle the Islamification of their land by saying the equivalent of That’s not a knife, This is a Knife, instead of bending over to Islam and showing your wide gaping asshole like the Australian copper did in the Lauren Lakamba video.
Dundee was a Fiction! The real Aussie is this tail between the legs coward of a Shariah-Patrol security guard who, one gets the impression would dutifully service the sexual needs of the entire Ummah if called upon to do so, in the name of community cohesion.
The officer was doing what all you australian cowards expected of him, which was to placate your new masters in the Islamic community. Lauren’s ballsy headstrong insistence on merely doing Streeters made this pitiful excuse of a lilly livered police officer debase himself in front of the WHOLE world with his Australian cowardice.
Australia needed to see what is happening right under their noses, and our Lauren was perhaps the only reporter with enough Titanium in her spine to reveal what Australians DID NOT WANT TO KNOW!
Jack flag says
Here is a similar incident with the police in London, where Tommy Robinson was told by a female police inspector: It’s easier to remove you [in order] to calm the situation than it is to take on one thousand people who want to tear you apart – every single person in that crowd wants to tear you apart”
Have a look at this video from 2017 around the two minute mark:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=151&v=YfIAQnzkM_U
By the way, Tommy Robinson is currently in prison for reporting on Muslim rape gangs; the outcome of his appeal is to be announced today, 1st August, at 9.30GMT.
Jack flag says
Tommy Robinson appeal is allowed – he will be released from custody on bail. But he still faces a re-trial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wes6oFGDv4U