Arabs and Muslims have black slaves today and hardly anyone, especially the leftist class which preens about its devotion to human rights, is screaming about this. In five African nations — Algeria, Libya, Mauritania, Nigeria, and Sudan — blacks serve Arab/Muslim masters. They are bought and sold like furniture. They are worked until they drop, tortured, raped, forcibly converted to Islam, and murdered. This has been going on for many years, but it only occasionally makes today’s headlines.
This is an open secret. Anyone can Google “blacks sold as slaves in Libya” and see video of slave markets. I know Africans from Sudan and Nigeria and Mauritania who want to tell this story but they cannot get platforms. Below is a short clip of the testimony of an escaped slave from Sudan, Francis Bok. Here is his incredible story told in long form. I have decided to help these people tell their story. The people who need to hear it most are American blacks. Please support our effort by contacting us at Americans for Peace and Tolerance.
Dr. Charles Jacobs is the president of Americans for Peace and Tolerance.
Truth says
There is a word some Muslims use for black Africans……”abeed”. Look it up. It means lesser human.
Michael Copeland says
“Slavery Is Part of Islam: Muslims Speak”
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/slavery-part-islam-–-muslims-speak
Andy says
Horror In South Africa. Prepare Yourself.
Andy says
Russia Offers Sanctuary for 15000 White South African Farmers!!!
myrtle Upchuck says
Slavery is in the Bible as well.
Susan B says
Slavery is recorded in the Bible but it is not endorsed by God. Slavery and rape and sex slavery is endorsed and commanded by allah in the koran.
Myrtle Upchuck says
The God of the Bible had nothing against slavery.
Susan B says
The God in the Bible gave free will and did not endorse slavery although it was part of the culture of the time. It was Jesus who brought a new covenant and old Jewish customs fell by the way side with the golden rule. Christianity is a movement from darkness to light.
600 after Jesus mohammad invents a cult with a god that does endorse slavery and especially that of females as sex slaves. In fact the god of the koran commands it. A cult that does the opposite of the golden rule. Somehow islam drags people back into darkness.
Three guesses which religion is from God and which so called religion is from Satan, the first two guesses do not count.
Myrtle Upchuck says
At its root, Christianity is about human sacrifice and cannibalism.
A corpse hanging on a cross. “Take and eat this, my body for your salvation”. “Drink this wine, which is my blood given to you for the forgiveness of sin”.
Is there something wrong with this picture?
gravenimage says
Spot on, Susan.
gravenimage says
It was devout Christians who first acted to abolish slavery, as “Myrtle Upchuck” no doubt knows.
gravenimage says
The appalling “Myrtle Upchuck” wrote:
At its root, Christianity is about human sacrifice and cannibalism.
A corpse hanging on a cross. “Take and eat this, my body for your salvation”. “Drink this wine, which is my blood given to you for the forgiveness of sin”.
Is there something wrong with this picture?
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Yes, it is–a complete misunderstanding of Christianity.
The main thing is that Christianity is not harming people–yet this vicious bint demands that we wink at the horrors of Islamic slavery.
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The God of the Bible had nothing against slavery.
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Actually, it was the West–led by devout Christians–that *abolished* slavery. Is that something the vile “Myrtle Upchuck” missed?
She might be happy with a resurgence of this savagery, but *we* aren’t.
Myrtle Upchuck says
Many Evangelical churches beat the children in Sunday school. If they don’t memorize their Bible verses, they get hit with a belt. They beat the Devil out of them. That’s why they are so mean and nasty when they grow up.
Susan B says
You are really getting desperate. You try to impose what happens to muslim children and try to say Christians do the same which is a lie.
Christianity is the opposite of your evil satanic death cult.
Myrtle Upchuck says
See what I mean? You are really a mean and nasty person. I’m sure you beat your own children. I don’t belong to a “cult”. You belong to a cult Susan B. what does the “B” stand for? “B*tch”?
Susan B says
Myrtle, no never beat our daughter, we used love not force. Speaking the truth does not make you mean and nasty. You seem to lack logic and I am pretty sure that is because you belong to the cult of islam. Critical thinking is not allowed in islam so that explains you inability post a comment that makes sense.
I have a feeling that you are not who you say you are but are a JW commentator that has used a new name to deceive us. That is an assumption along with another gut feeling that you are not female. I could be wrong but…
gravenimage says
As “Myrtle Upchuck” no doubt knows, there is nothing in Christianity that teaches the beating of children to learn Christianity. In fact, this abuse of children is *illegal* in most of the West.
Whereas, Islam actually does sacralize child beating to teach Islam. The “Prophet” Muhammed himself is cited in the Hadith telling Muslims to beat children when they reach ten if they do not pray.
Here’s Islam Q&A, the most read Islamic site in English:
https://islamqa.info/en/127233
gravenimage says
“Myrtle Upchuck” wrote, replying to Susan B.:
See what I mean? You are really a mean and nasty person. I’m sure you beat your own children. I don’t belong to a “cult”. You belong to a cult Susan B. what does the “B” stand for? “B*tch”?
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Opposing the beating of Muslim children and affirming that Christianity does not teach this is “mean and nasty”? In what *possible* way?
And I actually consider “evil satanic death cult” a reasonable characterization for a creed that preaches slavery and the beating of women and children–and this is the case whether one is using this phrasing literally or figuratively.
The disturbing thing is that “Myrtle Upchuck” does not.
JawsV says
Susan, you’re not really going there, are you? After all the cr** you put me through last week on another thread? Then you apologized which I accepted. No, I’m not fricking “Myrtle” you got it? No, I didn’t change my nic and I certainly wouldn’t change it to that gross moniker if I did. So, your “feeling” is wrong, your “assumption” is wrong, and you need to lay off me, you understand? What the heck’s wrong with you? LAY OFF. I’ve never seen this “Myrtle” character before but no, it’s not me. You moron! So, no, there’s no “deceiving” going on. You need help, really. Yeah, you’re wrong, got it?
I’m glad I took a look at this thread so I could see you’re still trying to defame me. Good God bugger off! Sincerely, JawsV.
P.S. Now you owe me another apology.
Susan B says
Jaws I have no idea why you are saying this you did not even come to mind. I do not consider you a mohammad so you are not a candidate. I think you owe me an apology.
JawsV says
Stop lying, Susan. Of course you meant me in your above “assumption.”
You have ruined JW for me. You slandered me and then instigated others to “pile on,” further slandering me. I truly detest you for that. I’ve been commenting on JW for many years and I deeply resent your uncalled-for slander.
You doing this to me on other threads? I can’t read them all and I’m not interested in all so I don’t know.
I owe you nothing.
Myrtle Upchuck says
JW is a disgrace. It is a hate site. I don’t know what you ever thought about it and what happened to ruin it for you. The people who participate are full of hatred, so what can you expect? Promotion of hatred is a criminal act.
gravenimage says
Jaws, I didn’t for a minute think that Susan meant you!
You are a staunch Anti-Jihadist, and are *nothing* like the foul “Myrtle Upchuck”.
And I hope Jihad Watch is not ruined for you. I always look for your posts.
gravenimage says
The appalling “Myrtle Upchuck” wrote:
JW is a disgrace. It is a hate site. I don’t know what you ever thought about it and what happened to ruin it for you. The people who participate are full of hatred, so what can you expect? Promotion of hatred is a criminal act.
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No, opposing slavery is *not* “full of hatred”, as the vile “Myrtle Upchuck” pretends. And no–condemning slavery is *not* a criminal act–not in the free world, it isn’t.
Myrtle Upchuck says
Don’t play stupid. You know what I mean. The site is full of hate speech. The only decent thing you have done is to condemn slavery. If Muslims were not involved, you wouldn’t bother with the topic.
You obviously have a lot of skin in this game. You will be held accountable for this crime.
gravenimage says
More from “Myrtle Upchuck”:
Don’t play stupid. You know what I mean. The site is full of hate speech.
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How is condemning slavery “hate speech”? Other horrors condemned here include FGM, child “marriage”, rape, mass slaughter, and genocide. How is *any* of this “hate speech”?
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The only decent thing you have done is to condemn slavery.
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Why would “Myrtle Upchuck” consider this decent? She has, in fact, appallingly sneered at concerns about slavery in Africa.
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If Muslims were not involved, you wouldn’t bother with the topic.
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What claptrap. I have been involved in providing literacy services for victims of human trafficking here in Oakland, and most of these people were victimized by non-Muslims. (although Muslims are heavily involved in such crimes elsewhere).
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You obviously have a lot of skin in this game. You will be held accountable for this crime.
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The “crime” of caring about people who have been enslaved, raped children, and victims of Jihad terror?
I can live with that–proudly, in fact.
Sons of Liberty says
Muhammad called them ” raisin heads ” ! Well written Charles Jacobs ,…this is the truth NEVER talked about in the media or the UN .
esther says
Abeed means SLAVE or servant. in arabic
J D S says
One would think that slavery has been gone for years…..Wrong!
Way back when……Muslims were even part of the American slave trade..catching and selling blacks to be slaves and they are still doing the same thing for their people…but on the other side if the coin… Some black Africans were doing the same to their own people…
Slavery…..a blight on the world! Still going on today….
…And,,,,THE WORLD STANDS STILL!
Janette Wells says
Untermenschen……sound familiar?
dumbledoresarmy says
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ex-Muslim, ethnically Somali, lived in Saudi Arabia – the heartland of Islam – for some time when she was a small girl, in the early years of primary school.
Her Arab Muslim lady teacher used to *beat* her, regularly, for no particular reason; and as this teacher beat little Ayaan, she would call her ‘abeed’ – blackslave.
Ayaan never forgot that ‘lesson’… and so, sensibly, she has ditched Islam. She is now a *free* black woman. Incidentally, although she herself has embraced Western nonreligious rationalism, she states that when she gets letters from disaffected Muslims – such as she herself was, when she was on the way to full-on apostasy – who say that they don’t want to be Muslims any more, but that they can’t embrace *atheism*, she tells them to go check out Christianity…
gravenimage says
+1
Igor says
Abed in Arabic means slave. The name Abdallah means slave of Allah. So nothing new here.
elee says
Traditional and mainstream Islam.
Mac-101 says
Obama, Clinton and Soros own this! This is what the Globalist have in mind for the rest of us THEY do NOT cull!
Avenger says
@ Mac-101
You forgot two of the biggest American dirt bags enablers – HW and GW Bush! They both pandered to Middle East sharia nations – Qatar, Arab Emirates, Kuwait and their all time favorite money maker – Saudi Arabia.
Mac-101 says
Bush I, II, Clinton and Obama are ALL Agency developed and owned by the Globalist. Watch their actions and the results, NOT their words!
Gary says
Of course the leftist elite would not want this well know secret to get out. Ever since Trump started to close the boarders and deport illegal aliens ( I ment to say, started to ship them to Canada ) the biggest complaint from the left is that they are losing their (slave)labour. My what will they do!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Charles, you lied. There has been nothing like Arabs enslaving blacks in Nigeria. The indigenous Arabs in Nigeria called Shuwa Arabs are mostly concentrated in the Northeastern states of Borno and Yobe as nomadic cattle rearers mixed kanuris who are mostly blacks, but are the rulers over Shuwa Arabs. so,the question of Nigerian Arabs enslaving blacks will not even arise. In most parts of Africa like Niger, Mali, Somalia and mauritania it is blacks who have been enslaving themselves as a result of tribal wars, which sharia prohibits, and as such such slaves are illegal, according to sharia.
don vito says
itace, from the Telegraph UK, “HOME»WOMEN»WOMEN’S LIFE
Nigeria’s Boko Haram isn’t just kidnapping girls: it’s enslaving them”. Keep searching for the truth itace, it will lead you to apostasy.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Don Vito, Boko haram rascals are blacks, not Arabs, and are holding perverted view on jihad fighting like evil zionist IsIs contrary sharia rules. Therefore, all those they have been abducting are not valid slaves since they are not fighting valid jihad
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Don Vito, Boko haram rascals are blacks, not Arabs,
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Actually, Boko Haram is largely Hausa and Fulani, and these Muslims *do indeed* consider themselves to be Arab. Ghaddafi agreed:
This is an excerpt of a speech Mummar Ghadafi made in the Nigeria city of Kano:
“Your forefathers were Arabs from Yemen who settled here over five thousand years ago. The Arabs arrived in Africa, settled in Africa and gave the name of jana to what today is called Ghana. Jana, an Arabic word, means a small paradise. The Arabs gave all the names you hear when they reached the Atlantic Ocean. Your origins are Arab and so are your kith and kin.
“You are the Yemeni tribes residing now on the equator. The Hausa tribe is the Hausa tribe you find in Libya, in Niger, and in Nigeria…The Fulani is an Arab tribe and so is the Yoruba, or Euroba meaning Arabism, the Tibbu and Kor’raan is an Arab tribe, the Zaghawa is an Arab tribe and the Tuareq…”
https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-afro-asiatics-black-arabs-of-africa-and-arabia-mummar-ghadafis-perspective/
Ibrahim itace muhammed himself is a Nigerian Muslim who considers himself to be Arab.
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and are holding perverted view on jihad fighting like evil zionist IsIs contrary sharia rules.
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Uh huh. Of course, civilized Israelis do not practice slavery–Muslims certainly do, though. Ibrahim itace muhammed does not actually disagree with any of the policies of Boko Haram or the Islamic State.
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Therefore, all those they have been abducting are not valid slaves since they are not fighting valid jihad
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Ibrahim itace muhammed has said this before–without ever pointing to what is supposedly not valid about this Jihad–since he has also affirmed that Muslims have the right to rape, enslave, and slaughter any Infidels who do not submit to Islam.
And note–he is perfectly fine with enslaving Infidels if the Jihad is waged “validly”. *Ugh*.
don vito says
itace, Charles wrote arab/moslem, the slave owners are either moslem or arab so…no lie, but mischaracterization of “lie” by you. Stay with searching for the truth itace, Labeling others as liars, when they aren’t is bad form, but it is sharia.
J D S says
Ibrahim itace….. Perverted lslam?????
Surely you have read the Koran as I and many more here on JW have….The problem is you read it with a liars eye, a perverted eye so to speak, Oh you will come up with some excuse for MURDER because according to Islam MURDER isn’t MURDER and RAPE isn’t RAPE and on it goes with excuses for all the atrocious acts of Islam…. found in the Koran, Hadath and teachings of many clerics.
Work to revise the Koran if you want yo be part of society…but of course FEAR holds you in Islam….unless…maybe you are not an Islamist just an Agitator ?????
Giacomo Latta says
I’m smelling a little racist attitude by **it*ace. Black DNA does not force them to seek slaves; it is the vile document that some of them as some Arabs and as some whites and as some of a lot of peoples decide to subscribe to because they are sick to the core.
Jay says
Itace does too much head-banging 5 times a day.
Sons of Liberty says
Keep up the taqiyya Ibrahim ! Those nomadic cattle rearers you reference are KILLING CHRISTIANS in Nigeria ! Why would Muhammad violate his own sharia when he owned slaves and called them ” raisin heads ” ?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Sons of Liberty, nomad Shuwa Arabs are not Fulanis who have been having clashes with farmers who are both Muslims ànd christians over grazing right. you people are being misinformed by idiot mithraist christian Association of Nigeria who use that farmer-nomadic fulani conflicts to pass false informations to you, because president Buhari refuses to loot public treasury and dash them money flying private jets as the most corrupt Nigerian leader jonathan did.
Get correct information, please. Thank you
J D S says
Hey sons of liberty..Ibrahim never answered your question
He just used lame excuses..and what about those raisin heads mo had as slaves..he didn’t address that either.
He’s not even Islamic..just an agitator
gravenimage says
What tripe. Muslims have been slaughtering Christians in Nigeria for a very long time now.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, it was not Gaddafi who invented the idea that some ethnic groups in Sudan, chad and Nigeria,are Arabs, it is a historical fact. First, Arabs came to black African subcontinent through transahara trade and intermarried with blacks and assimilated . Secondly, there has been influx of Bedouin Arabs from Arabia to black African subcontinent who maintained their Arab identity like Shuwa Arabs in Nigeria called Baghara in Sudan because they rear cattle .There are also Arabs who came to black African countries of recent like businessmen and expatriate workers. my parents came with me to Nigeria as expatriate university lecturers and later registered as Nigerians by naturalisation (second class citizens) and I am ok with that.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Liar Gravenimage, it was not Gaddafi who invented the idea that some ethnic groups in Sudan, chad and Nigeria,are Arabs, it is a historical fact.
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I never said that Ghaddafi invented the idea that Muslims in Nigeria and other parts of sub-Saharan Africa are Arabs; I said that he agreed with it. Why is Ibrahim itace muhammed incapable of basic reading comprehension?
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First, Arabs came to black African subcontinent through transahara trade and intermarried with blacks and assimilated . Secondly, there has been influx of Bedouin Arabs from Arabia to black African subcontinent who maintained their Arab identity like Shuwa Arabs in Nigeria called Baghara in Sudan because they rear cattle .There are also Arabs who came to black African countries of recent like businessmen and expatriate workers.
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Actually, most Arab Muslims came to Africa as conquerors and slave traders who raped the local African women.
But yes–many Muslims in sub-Saharan Africa ethnic mix of Arab and Black African. But Muslims in general *despise* Blacks, and so often claim to be fully Arab no matter how absurd this may be–even if their ancestors were converts and they have no Arab blood at all.
For instance, Sudan’s Omar al-Bashir claims to be Arab–despite his obviously being Black:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/75/Omar_al-Bashir%2C_12th_AU_Summit%2C_090202-N-0506A-137.jpg/1200px-Omar_al-Bashir%2C_12th_AU_Summit%2C_090202-N-0506A-137.jpg
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my parents came with me to Nigeria as expatriate university lecturers and later registered as Nigerians by naturalisation (second class citizens) and I am ok with that.
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This is possible–but it is also likely that Ibrahim itace muhammed is another sub-Saharan African who desperately wants to be considered Arab.
And why is he OK with being a second class citizen? No one should have to be.
But then, this is mandated under Shari’ah–but usually just applies to the “filthy Infidels”.
Makenomistake says
Islamic deception at work. Muslims have enslaved all other people’s they came to pounce upon. Islam and black slavery are concomitant.
Keys says
Hey, itace. You gladly serve the prideful, greatest of deceivers and you call the author of this fine post a liar ! You arrogant fool !
Then, you lie again by saying sharia does not permit slavery ! Indeed sharia does permit slavery just as the liar(s) Allah and Mohammad permit slavery. Mohammad had slaves, and Allah has millions of slaves – you are one of them.
Sharia does not permit slavery for muslims, the so-called best of humans, but it certainly does (and has) permit slavery for non-muslims, who are dispised by your lying satanic “god-man”, Mohammad.
Fool !
You have lost all credibility and no one who gets even a little of Mohammadanism trusts you or your ilk.
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Ever heard of the Barbary pirates ?
Have fun continuing to justify your sharia, idiot !
You think you will be “rewarded” after your death – what a useless, foolish tragedy – an eternal lie from the greatest of deceivers, your satanic unholy spirit.
Hoping against hope, all the best for you, itace.
You’ve choosen, and your time is running out.
Giacomo Latta says
Tiny correction. The Book of Women (koran 4:25) invites a lonely Muslim boy to seek one or more wives from among his Muslim acquaintances. If he is still luckless, he is invited to seem a wife from among those believing women his right hand possesses (Islamic code for slave girls). Thus, Muslims can be slaves of other Muslims.
eduardo odraude says
David Wood, using the core Islamic sources themselves, talks about Islamic slavery:
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Charles, you lied. There has been nothing like Arabs enslaving blacks in Nigeria. The indigenous Arabs in Nigeria called Shuwa Arabs are mostly concentrated in the Northeastern states of Borno and Yobe as nomadic cattle rearers mixed kanuris who are mostly blacks, but are the rulers over Shuwa Arabs. so,the question of Nigerian Arabs enslaving blacks will not even arise.
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In much of the Sahel and sub-Saharan Africa, Muslims consider themselves to be “Arabs” even if they are almost as dark as are Christians and animists. This is certainly the case in places like Sudan.
And clearly Ibrahim itace muhammed hopes we have forgotten Boko Haram kidnapping Infidel girls and using them as sex slaves.
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In most parts of Africa like Niger, Mali, Somalia and mauritania it is blacks who have been enslaving themselves as a result of tribal wars, which sharia prohibits, and as such such slaves are illegal, according to sharia.
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Uh huh. The claims that slavery is illegal under Islam rings hollow–especially since Ibrahim itace muhammed *himself* has affirmed that Muslims have the right to enslave Infidels.
The fact is that slavery is rife in the Muslim world. This is true nowhere else in the world today–and this is all on the texts and tenets of Islavm, and the model of the “Prophet” Muhammed–who enslaved his victims, kept slaves, and was a slave trader.
Re the resurgent slave trade in Libya, one of those involved made it clear the Islamic basis of these atrocities:
“We think this trade must go on. That is the verdict of our oracle and the priests. They say that your country, however great, can never stop a trade ordained by God himself”
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2017/12/forced-slavery-self-imposed-slavery-nigeria-beyond/
revereridesagain says
Lying to the filthy kuffar again, Ibrahim, O Whore of Allah? Your whole self-image is wrapped up in believing you are above us all because your imaginary god and baby-raping “prophet” told you so. Ever think of growing a little humanity, Ibrahim? Or might that cost you a few renewable virgins in your “paradise”? As clearly described by other commenters here, Muslims have been among the world’s most prolific slave traders since the inception of your miserable ideology, and continue today. The Southern slave trade pales in comparison to what went on all over the Mediterranean and Africa. But Ibrahim needs his pseudo-self-esteem, and his promise of a wine-and-hooker-soaked heaven when he dies, so he can never admit that, can you, Ibrahim? You don’t deserve the thoughtful, factual answers others have given you here. You deserve to be ignored and turned away, like a drunkard raving in a the doorway of the derelict building known as Islam.
Charles Martell says
Save it Mohammed. Your Taqiyya & Kitman are getting a little old. Lucky for you the media morons are on your side. Take your child brides and go back to Yemen.
Walter Sieruk says
Slavery is a heinous part of Islam is a topic that the apologists for that religion don’t like have people bring up .Nevertheless one writer revealed that “The senior clerics of Saudi Arabia’s highest body declared “Slavery is part of Islam and whoever wants it abolished is an infidel.” [1] Likewise, a former Muslim had exposed in his book that “Slavery is recognized as an institution and slave is considered both a thing as a person.” [2] In addition, two Christian writers in their book had also informs their readers that “Islam has enslaved more people than any other culture.” [3] Therefore Islam regardless of what the apologist for this religion do claim has not regard for human rights
[1] THEY MUST BE STOPPED by Brigitte Gabriel page 187
[2] THE ISLAM IN ISLAMIC TERRORISM by Ibn Warraq page 85
[3] Jesus and the Jihadis, by Craig A Evens and Jeremiah J Johnston page 125.
Keys says
Thanks for your fine post, Walter.
Pertinent and calmly well stated.
gravenimage says
Agree with Keys. Fine post, Walter.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
walter sieruk,have you not advert your to the institution of slavery enshrined in your mithraist Bible and mithraist churchmen practiced it where they castrated male slaves and having sex with female slaves, all pursuant to the mithraist Bible which commands killings of all those living with exception of little girls to kept as sex slaves. That cruel transatlantic slave trade where white mithraist christians shipped black slaves accross Atlantic Ocean and those found sick or old not fit for hard labor were thrown overboard and eatened by sharks. That abolition of slavery by mithraist christians after-thought is a sham. savage mad devil Trump in one of his campaign speeches promised to recolonise black African nations and revive That cruel Transatlantic slave trade. It is like genocidal killings of muslims by churchmen during crusade wars revived during Gulf war where some unexploded cluster bombs were found bearing biblical verses of genocide. many of you mithraist christians at this site are advocating for invoking such biblical verses of genocide to annihilate all Muslims. wicked scums of evils!!
don vito says
itace, slavery is enshrined by sharia law, otherwise all the classic saracen leaders would have violated sharia law by enslaving kufrs. My ancestors were enslaved by your vile prophet followers, continue your search for truth, itace, you will be a great saracen apostate.
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
walter sieruk,have you not advert your to the institution of slavery enshrined in your mithraist Bible and mithraist churchmen practiced it where they castrated male slaves and having sex with female slaves, all pursuant to the mithraist Bible which commands killings of all those living with exception of little girls to kept as sex slaves.
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Of course, there is nothing in the Bible that mandates slavery, nor have Christian churchmen castrated or raped slaves. Ibrahim itace muhammed has been called on this many times, but still continues to make these ludicrous claims.
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That cruel transatlantic slave trade where white mithraist christians shipped black slaves accross Atlantic Ocean and those found sick or old not fit for hard labor were thrown overboard and eatened by sharks.
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The transatlantic slave trade *was* cruel–but the claim that slavers purchased old slaves, then only noticed that they were old when they were en route actually makes no sense whatsoever.
As for throwing slaves overboard, this refers to a single terrible case–that of the slave ship Zong.
This became a cause célèbre for abolitionists–here is Turner’s classic painting, “The Slave Ship”:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Slave_Ship#/media/File:Slave-ship.jpg
And note that Ibrahim itace muhammed only condemns the transatlantic slave trade–he has no problem with the African slave trade in general, since this was run by Muslims. In fact, it was Muslims who supplied the slaves for the transatlantic slave trade, as well–but he has no problem with this.
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That abolition of slavery by mithraist christians after-thought is a sham.
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*Of course* the appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed considers the ending of such evil to be a “sham”–after all, he has affirmed that Muslims can enslave Infidels and use them as slaves and sex slaves.
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savage mad devil Trump in one of his campaign speeches promised to recolonise black African nations and revive That cruel Transatlantic slave trade.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed has made this grotesquely false claim before. He has been asked to provide citations for this, but of course has been unable to, since Trump never said any such thing.
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It is like genocidal killings of muslims by churchmen during crusade wars revived during Gulf war where some unexploded cluster bombs were found bearing biblical verses of genocide.
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The Crusades were defensive wars against Jihad–there was no genocide against Muslims.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed has made this last claim many times as well–of course, there is no record of any such verses on bombs in Iraq. This did not happen.
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many of you mithraist christians at this site are advocating for invoking such biblical verses of genocide to annihilate all Muslims. wicked scums of evils!!
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Of course, this is bs as well. I would ask Ibrahim itace muhammed to cite any posts that say any such thing–there have been none that I have ever seen, and of course Jihad Watch would not allow such comments to stand, in any case.
So–the above is nothing but a tissue of lies.
And Ibrahim itace muhammed *still* will not condemn Islamic slavery.
KJW says
Ibrahim, you just deflect like most Muslims I talk to. You’re so brainwashed. The Arab slavery was huge, and they also castrated many black Africans, 6 out of 10 of those boys dying from the crude procedure. Yet the British abolished slavery long before the Arabs, yet they don’t stick to those agreements. It’s white Arab Muslims that own slaves in Mauritania. White meaning lighter than black. Sudan has had slavery of women and children mostly, the women often getting raped and gang-raped.
Nigeria didn’t even take slavery off their books until 2003. But it still happens. There’s plenty of information about this and videos, so your comments are indefensible.
Sharia law allows slavery unrelated to jihad. The Hadith discusses the purchasing of slaves-one example with Ali. The slaves were treated as farm animals. Other rules are things such as a slaves marrying.
Since the Europeans were well aware of and saw the Arab Muslim slave markets and sex slave markets, they also painted them. This immoral religion would have the female slaves with their breasts all exposed.
It’s almost hard to believe you believe in a prophet who allowed the men to commit adultery on their wives with their sex slaves, rape captive women in front of their husbands and marry them, and he own his own plus his harem of wives.
Muslims lie a lot. It’s become a collective mental problem. Very low on the intellectual integrity scale. As a result of Westetners pandering to the oil countries, unfortunately, some Western educators are repeating the same lies even when all evidence proves they are lies.
So why aren’t you advocating for all this slavery to stop?
gravenimage says
Good posts, don vito, anotherJWreader, and KJW.
SB says
This is more evidence that the left is not as compassionate as they would have you believe, as this will never be reported by CNN, CNBC, ABC, etc.
Makenomistake says
Islamic deception at work. Muslims have enslaved all other people’s they came to pounce upon. Islam and black slavery are concomitant.
Michael Copeland says
“….the master has the right to have sexual intercourse with the daughters of his maid-slave because they are his property, …”
Ibn Timiyya
https://www.answering-islam.org/BehindVeil/btv5.html
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims sacralize both slavery and sex slavery.
Susan B says
I love how islam uses the words “have sex” which of course means rape. The word or concept of rape does not exist in islam. If a muslim males rapes a female, which seems to be how muslims males do sex, the victim is accused of adultery in many cases because she caused it.
On a side note, Trump needs to create an independent internet before we lose the ability to expose all this evil. The left is working very hard at controlling the internet and destroying our right to know and speak the truth.
gravenimage says
Black Slaves, Muslim Masters
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Yes–everyone should know this. There is no excuse not to.
The Free Thinker says
Most people have a vague idea that slavery was all about the North Atlantic Slave Trade, and that it is all in the past and took place in the antebellum south. Few people know that the muslims did, and still keep, slaves.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
But the Arab slave trade both preceded and outlasted the trans-Atlantic slave trade, and dwarfed it, as well.
We *abolished* slavery–Islam never has.
No Muzzies Here says
The Arabic word for Black is also the word for slave.
Wellington says
All Muslims are at least confused human beings. Many are worse than “merely” confused. But any black who is a Muslim is, at the very least, EXTRA confused considering that a) the reputed founder of Islam owned black slaves; b) referred to blacks by many derogatory names, “raisenheads” being one and “pug-nosed creatures” being another; c) the Islamic world engaged in black slavery eight centuries before the Judeo-Christian world, i.e., the West, did (seventh century versus fifteenth century); d) overall, the Islamic world enslaved at least, in sheer numbers, 5 times as many blacks as the West did, probably more like 10 times; e) the Islamic world, unlike the Western world, castrated black male slaves; f) the Western world was the first civilization to realize that any kind of slavery is wrong and initiated many steps to end it (think people like Wilberforce and Garrison here and most certainly Lincoln); g) the Western world has profusely apologized for its role in black slavery, contra the Islamic world which to this day never has.
And this is just a “short list” of why any black who is a Muslim reveals himself or herself (extra so for black female Muslims considering the inherent misogyny rooted in Islam—e.g., Mohammed himself saying that he had been to Hell and most there were women) as an EXTRA confused person. No exceptions. Not even one, including that highly overrated person in American history, Malcolm X.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington, you lied. Prophet Muhammad never owned black slave. who was that black slave?. The only slave he inherited was Zaid bn Thabit a Persian whom he freed and brought him closer to him just like his son and served as his scribe. on Reference prophet to raisenhead, the prophet was giving example with a black slave with raisenhead infront of hi; that even a slave like that man is appointed as a leader Muslims shall obey him, not all blacks have raisenhead. The holy Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated in his farewell sermon that whites like Arabs are not superior to blacks unlike your mithraist Bible which says blacks are cursed race and inferior to Whites because blacks are the descendants of the cursed son of Noah. In fact that biblical story is the genesis of racist Apartheid discriminatory white rule in South Africa. As such it is an idiocy to the core for a blackman to be a mithraist christian.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Wellington, you lied. Prophet Muhammad never owned black slave. who was that black slave?.
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Actually, Wellington never said that the “Prophet” owned a black slave–what a straw man argument. Certainly, millions of Africans have been enslaved by Muslims on the model of the “Prophet”, though.
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The only slave he inherited was Zaid bn Thabit a Persian whom he freed and brought him closer to him just like his son and served as his scribe.
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Actually, Zaid ibn Thabit was one of the few people the “Prophet” *didn’t* enslave:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zayd_ibn_Thabit
Ibrahim itace muhammed appears to be so enamored of the vicious Muhammed enslaving people that he is just making crap up now.
But Muhammed *did* enslave huge numbers of his victims–including all the women and children of the Banu Qurayza tribe–was involved in the vicious slave trade, and was given a sex slave as a gift, Mary the Copt, whom he raped and impregnated.
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on Reference prophet to raisenhead, the prophet was giving example with a black slave with raisenhead infront of hi; that even a slave like that man is appointed as a leader Muslims shall obey him, not all blackore:s have raisenhead.
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What–only black slaves are “raisinheads”? How does that make any sense?
More:
The holy Prophet Muhammad explicitly stated in his farewell sermon that whites like Arabs are not superior to blacks unlike your mithraist Bible which says blacks are cursed race and inferior to Whites because blacks are the descendants of the cursed son of Noah. In fact that biblical story is the genesis of racist Apartheid discriminatory white rule in South Africa. As such it is an idiocy to the core for a blackman to be a mithraist christian.
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What claptrap. It was Churches that led the way both for abolition and for an end to apartheid.
Meanwhile, Muslims are still enslaving black Africans to this day.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Wellington.
tetvet 1968 says
I wrote this and posted it about 7 years ago and almost got run off the internet.
In 1973 I was walking down the Quay on the Dira Creek in Dubai. I was with my translator. I was a young guy and was fascinated by the Arabs and their culture. My translator spoke 8 languages and he was perfect for me, as I was trying to learn to speak Arabic. We were near the Dows (old Arab boats powered by sail and diesel engines) and I could hear many different languages and I was always asking him what it was. He would tell me it was this or that. We came abreast of one Dow and there was a chattering of a very strange language and I asked him what it was. He said it was Swahili. So, I got closer to the Dow and looked aboard and there were at least 40 chained up black Africans. I asked him what this was all about and he said the Dow was going to Iran and they were slavers. Now understand this is 1973 not 1873. The Arabs and Persians have been the biggest slave traders on earth. Africans sold Africans to other Africans and their best customers, hold on hold on that’s right Arabs.
New flash for all the black converts to Islam.
As I started to learn about Islam and Arabs, true Muslims have looked down their noses at every black Muslim and they will forever. I was told by a senior Saudi Wahhabis theologian that said there is no blood of the prophet running in the veins of black African Muslims, so they will never be true Muslims in the eyes of Arabs, nor will they have the any level of respect of a true Arab Muslim. But Islam now caters to black Americans because they know they need their numbers in America to enact an internal Jihad overthrow-caliphate. But I can guarantee you one fact; there will be no seat at the power sharing table in the New World Order or Agenda 21 for Islam or American black militants. Welcome to Islam all you dumb black African-Americans that think that becoming a Muslim will save your or spiritually enrich your life or your soul, it will enslave you and eventually kill you. Plus, all black African friends of mine think all you American blacks are nuts for wanting to tie your birthright to a continent that has continually massacred, slaughtered and sold each other as soon as they come under the power of a black dictator or tribal leader. Plus, every black African friends of mine have been proud friend called an American, not African-Ameri can they know talking about..
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Though Mali is not mentioned in the article’s list of Muslim Arab countries where blacks are enslaved, 200,000 black slaves of Arab masters in that country should not be overlooked.
gravenimage says
Yes–good point.
WPM says
Malcom X was also killed in his own Mosque by other Moslems no surprise there Moslem kill more Moslems world wide then any other group. Islam the official religion of delusional confused losers. If they cannot have sex with nonbelievers, or make a slave of nonbeliever ,or extort a lot of money from nonbeliever, they kill nonbeliever.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
wpm, it was evil Jews who sponsored the assassination of Malcolm X, that of Luther King and RFK, but you cowards mithraist American Christians are afraid to say it for fear of being assassinated in the same way
WPM says
yes yes it is always those busy evil “JOOS” behind everything including the Moslems fighting each other in the middle east, every Islamic terrorist attack in America, Europe , the middle east, Asia, the 911 attacks ect. Your evidence is ?
gravenimage says
Yet more projection by Ibrahim itace muhammed.
He himself has said that he looks forward to personally taking part in the genocide of the Jews.
FYI says
So where do muslims get the idea to treat black people as slaves?
From their “prophet” muhammed.
muhammed:the man who sold black people into slavery.
SAHIH MUSLIM 3901
“alah’s apostle said;sell him{i.e another slave}to me.and he bought him for TWO black slaves”
“And he bought him for TWO BLACK SLAVES”
That’s the “prophet” of islam happily selling TWO black people for the price of another slave.
Now what does that say about muhammed?Do the math!I mean selling one is bad enough but ..TWO…
Perfect mo.
tim gallagher says
In regard to Muslims still continuing to have slaves (as in this report), as in regard to every aspect of life, I continually think that Islam is this evil, backward, primitive, bizarre way of life which offers an insight into the way unevolved barbarians lived back in the seventh century. It is so bizarre and troubling and dangerous that such a view of life and way of living exists in the 21st century and that it exists when most people, whether people in the west or Buddhist Asians and others, are living a very different, much more humane and civilised way of life. Islam needs to disappear. It is such a backward, inhuman way of living in so many ways. I keep thinking that mankind should have moved on from such a way of life ages ago. Most of mankind has progressed beyond such a barbarous way of life, whether in terms of owning slaves or the other garbage found in Islam.. And, of course, there’s also the fact that Islam is a continual danger to all of us non-Muslims everywhere.
Myrtle Upchuck says
The Chinese Communist system is also a threat to humanity. It is adhered to even more strictly than Islam. It is cruel, inhuman and does not value life. Get in it’s way and you vanish. There are far more Chinese Communists that there are Islamists. They are organized, high tech and very efficient. On top of that, if you are not Chinese, you are not really human. I really dread the day that China takes over the planet!
Susan B says
Islamic doctrine is cut in stone and can not be changed. It is islam that needs to be irradiated from the free world starting yesterday.
gravenimage says
I am *no* fan of Communism, and I definitely consider China to be something of a threat–they are a “frenemy” at best.
That being said, they are not currently violently invading the West and murdering us as Islam is.
Myrtle Upchuck says
They don’t need to invade. They are buying the West. They are also successfully exterminating Islam in Western China. The Uighur people are forbidden to teach their children Islam. They are imprisoning them and torturing people who inconveniently practice Islam. They are moving Han Chinese into traditional Uighur territories and outnumbering them. Anybody that gets in the way vanishes. If Islam is inconvenient for a China run North America, they will deal with it. They will deal with Christianity and anything else inconvenient or competing with party interests.
gravenimage says
Actually, Jihad is quite common in Western China–Muslims attack Infidels regardless of ideology. And while China does crack down on Jihad, they also practice a lot of appeasement, such as having exempted Uigurs from the One Child policy and allowing them to carry knives while barring Han Chinese from doing the same.
Communism *is* still a threat–but claiming that as a result we should have to–by some leap of “logic”–embrace Muslims enslaving their victims of course makes no sense at all, besides being completely immoral.
Most of us who oppose Islam do for the same reason we oppose Communism–and Fascism–because we love freedom and hate threats to that freedom.
Clearly, “Myrtle Upchuck” has no such principles.
It is, in fact, unlikely that she is actually concerned about Communism, either–above she was castigating Christians for supposedly being avid slavers, to this day, on the basis of their faith. Of course, this is not true. We *abolished* slavery.
The one thing she *hasn’t* done is say anything in condemnation of Muslim slavery–she has, in fact, quite directly condoned it. This is pure apologia for the greatest horrors of Islam and Shari’h.*Ugh*.
Niemoller says
But, but, but if they convert to Islam they’re set free! Yeah sure they won’t have balls because they are castrated. That’s just a detail, the real bad slavery was the Atlantic slave which was capitalist. /sarc
Brother Charles says
Thats why I cannot understand why BLACKS convert to ISLAM , Islam just wants them to fight their cause for them and nothing else ,
gravenimage says
Most Black Muslims are quite ignorant of Islam’s ugly history, including as regards slavery.
dhans says
This makes Dinesh D’Souza’s claim that the Democratic party is still the party of slavery and JIm Crow laws all the more believable. Why else would they support islam like they do, if they did not want a return to embracing the old southern aristocracy of the antebellum south through the co-opting of islam and it’s treatment of blacks. Prisoners can still be treated as slaves under the 13th amendment. Under the new Jacobins, I’d imagine if you spit on the sidewalk, or voice the wrong opinion, it’s back into chains with you.
tetvet 196 says
I wrote this and posted it about 7 years ago and almost got run off the internet.
In 1973 I was walking down the Quay on the Dira Creek in Dubai. I was with my translator. I was a young guy and was fascinated by the Arabs and their culture. My translator spoke 8 languages and he was perfect for me, as I was trying to learn to speak Arabic. We were near the Dows (old Arab boats powered by sail and diesel engines) and I could hear many different languages and I was always asking him what it was. He would tell me it was this or that. We came abreast of one Dow and there was a chattering of a very strange language and I asked him what it was. He said it was Swahili. So, I got closer to the Dow and looked aboard and there were at least 40 chained up black Africans. I asked him what this was all about and he said the Dow was going to Iran and they were slavers. Now understand this is 1973 not 1873. The Arabs and Persians have been the biggest slave traders on earth. Africans sold Africans to other Africans and their best customers, hold on hold on that’s right Arabs.
New flash for all the black converts to Islam.
As I started to learn about Islam and Arabs, true Muslims have looked down their noses at every black Muslim and they will forever. I was told by a senior Saudi Wahhabis theologian that said there is no blood of the prophet running in the veins of black African Muslims, so they will never be true Muslims in the eyes of Arabs, nor will they have the any level of respect of a true Arab Muslim. But Islam now caters to black Americans because they know they need their numbers in America to enact an internal Jihad overthrow-caliphate. But I can guarantee you one fact; there will be no seat at the power sharing table in the New World Order or Agenda 21 for Islam or American black militants. Welcome to Islam all you dumb black African-Americans that think that becoming a Muslim will save your or spiritually enrich your life or your soul, it will enslave you and eventually kill you. Plus, all black African friends of mine think all you American blacks are nuts for wanting to tie your birthright to a continent that has continually massacred, slaughtered and sold each other as soon as they come under the power of a black dictator or tribal leader. Plus, every black African friend of mine would have been proud to be called an American, not African-American.
gravenimage says
Deeply disturbing, tetvet 196.
Mac-101 says
Thanks for sharing. However I believe the Satanic Elites will use Islam as the forced religion of Satan’s Beast NWO for Total control. It fits Revelation perfectly!
Myrtle Upchuck says
No, Satan is currently busy using American Evangelicals who support Trump. They will believe anything that the Trump demon master says. They perverted Christianity and dumbed it down. Trump is feeding the US raw to Russia for lunch. Only the intelligent few realize what is happening. The proof of this is that Most Trump supporters still believe in him after the disaster in Helsinki. Only in America can people be that stupid! If and when the rubes wake up and realize what has happened it may be too late. Democracy is fragile!
gravenimage says
“Myrtle Upchuck” does not believe in democracy. No one who does so now supports slavery.
Notice that just on this thread she has tried to deflect concerns over this great evil to Christianity–with a sub-set of American Evangelicals–China, Russia, and now Donald Trump.
Whatever one’s views on any of these issues, it is clear that her whole purpose here is to distract from the evils of Islam, which she embraces. *Sickening*.
Mac-101 says
Graven, who could be against talkin peace to anyone, especially Libs?
gravenimage says
Talking peace is fine, Mac–I am all for it, so long as you don’t imperil your people in the process.
Berengaria says
Not Surprising, Black Americans see nothing wrong with Slavery, unless the SlaveHolder is WHITE. Black Americans are very, very tolerant of the actions of So-Called Arabs & convert to Islam, believing they will receive the Crumbs that Allah & his Boy, MO throw to them.
Most Converts to the Islamic CULT in America are Black, & believe Allah commands them to Murder Whites, especially Christians & they will be rewarded by Paradise.
I see little difference between Blacks & Arabs, they’re Both destroying Western Civilization.
gravenimage says
Actually, most Black people I know are completely ignorant about the history of Arab slavery. Really, this is true of most Americans.
gravenimage says
I’m so glad Francis Bok was able to escape!
Myrtle Upchuck says
These are blacks enslaving blacks. In Nigeria, supposed Christians have slaves as well. What business of mine is it to intrude? They have been doing that for thousands of years. It was blacks who sold the slaves to the Euro slave traders since the 1600s. They eat each other as well. Did you see black Africa raising a stink when Hitler burn the Jews? If they want to enslave each other or kill each other, that’s their business. The genocide in Rwanda was an ongoing drama. South Africa is now killing all the whites. The best we can do is let them escape to Europe before it turns black as well.
Susan B says
These black slavers are muslims which is the point of this article. Islam condones slavery and where are the protesters trying to stop this evil. You are trying to cover for you islamic cult. Not buying.
Myrtle Upchuck says
Sorry, you are wrong. Not just black Muslims trade slaves. Animists, Christian and most everyone in Africa is into slavery. It’s not just Muslims. The reality is that the Muslims are organized and much better at it.
Susan B says
BS your taqiyya is weak.
gravenimage says
Where are Christians enslaving people in Africa? Citations, please.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Susan.
Myrtle Upchuck says
You don’t have the money or the brains to buy it.
Susan B says
Another comment without any logic. So very mohammedan of you. You always know who the mohammedans are they speak nonsense. I know that mohammedans have not been taught critical thinking but you should give it try for your own sake. It must get tiring to keep been called out for your stupidity.
Myrtle Upchuck says
“Mohammedan” is not a correct term. The correct term is Muslim or Moslem. When referring to a religion, proper English requires you to capitalize the name of the religion. Example: Christianity not christianity. If you had any level of education, you would know this and use it.
If you had an education, engaged in critical thinking and knew anything about Islam, you would not be displaying your ignorance on this site. You are a primitive Hillbilly and a rustic bumpkin. Nobody could possibly take you seriously. If you were a Christian, you would not associate with this hate site. Real Christians are better than that. You are like a Trump Christian. Full of hate and bile yet easily fooled by that snake oil salesman.
Susan B says
I hate evil and do not consider the Nazis cult of islam a religion but a boys rape and murder club for psychopathic males that worship a female hating pagan moon god. Because islam is not a true a religion, I give it no respect so no caps, period. By the way I hate islam because it goes against the laws of God and is a tool of Satan. Hating your cult is not the same as hating mohammedans, I consider mohammedans the first victims of your cult. With any luck you might actually start to think and become an apostate as many wiser mohammedans have.
gravenimage says
I see that the vile “Myrtle Upchuck” is demanding that we show the proper respect for the savage creed of Islam.
And “Mohammedan” most certainly is a correct term–it was used for centuries. Why is “Myrtle Upchuck” so appallingly ignorant? One finds the definition in the Oxford English Dictionary.
She then claims that anyone who opposes slavery is a “primitive Hillbilly”. (Why is she capitalizing “hillbilly”? There is nothing that demands the capitalization of this word).
She then says that true Christians would not dare associate with a site that stands against the evils of slavery. *Many* Christians disagree with this.
And no–opposing slavery is not “hatred”.
Myrtle Upchuck says
Capitalized “Hillbilly” refers to an ethno/cultural group and is therefore a proper noun, to be capitalized. Check your reading skills! I did not mention slavery in my last post other than to refer to your rightful opposition. You like to twist things around so that it fits your sick outlook on the world. I think you actually believe what you say. You are delusional. I hope they don’t allow you to possess firearms. I can see you as the next mosque shooter. If it happens and you are not identified, they will know where to find you.
The things that are said on this site are big targets on your backs come the next violent act against Muslims. If you are in Canada, you are being monitored now. If you want to enter Canada and you are a known Islamophobe, you will be stopped at the border. This type of hatred and bigotry is not tolerated.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/m-103-islamophobia-motion-vote-1.4038016
gravenimage says
Yet more from “Myrtle Upchuck”:
Capitalized “Hillbilly” refers to an ethno/cultural group and is therefore a proper noun, to be capitalized. Check your reading skills!
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What claptrap. “Hillbilly” no more identifies a recognized “ethno/cultural group” than does “bumpkin”.
Definition of hillbilly
plural hillbillies
often disparaging + offensive
: a person from a backwoods area
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hillbilly
Definition of bumpkin
: an awkward and unsophisticated rustic
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bumpkin
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I did not mention slavery in my last post other than to refer to your rightful opposition.
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This story is about slavery, and the appalling “Myrtle Upchuck” has done nothing but spout apologia for it here. *Ugh*.
More:
You like to twist things around so that it fits your sick outlook on the world. I think you actually believe what you say. You are delusional. I hope they don’t allow you to possess firearms. I can see you as the next mosque shooter. If it happens and you are not identified, they will know where to find you.
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What utter calumny. No, opposing violence does not mean that one is violent. I have said nothing here advocating or condoning violence–just the opposite, in fact. This is nothing but projection. Opposing violence does not make one sick.
And yes–I *do* believe what I say. I consider slavery one of the great atrocities, and am disgusted that it still exists today. i am also disgusted to find apologists for this savagery.
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The things that are said on this site are big targets on your backs come the next violent act against Muslims.
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No, opposing violence does *not* mean that one is advocating it. How grotesque.
And saying that good people who oppose the savagery of Jihad and Shari’ah have a “target on their backs” certainly sounds like a violent threat.
More:
If you are in Canada, you are being monitored now. If you want to enter Canada and you are a known Islamophobe, you will be stopped at the border. This type of hatred and bigotry is not tolerated.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/m-103-islamophobia-motion-vote-1.4038016
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Championing the idea that opposing slavery means that one should be barred from entering Canada, or monitored if one is Canadian is quite sickening.
And opposing slavery is only “hatred and bigotry” if one is in favor of slavery.
One more thing–“Myrtle Upchuck” is entirely mistaken in believing that it is only Trump voters who oppose the horrors of slavery–what calumny. Virtually every American opposes this.
gravenimage says
I see the vile “Myrtle Upchuck” is stumping *for slavery*–*good God*.
And no–Nigerian Christians are not enslaving people–this is a Muslim phenomenon,
And if this creep thinks she can convince us that this presents no threat to anyone beyond Africa, she is quite mistaken. Muslims were pirating and and enslaving European and American Infidels just a couple of centuries ago, until we put a stop to it.
Myrtle Upchuck says
You obviously have never lived in Nigeria. Slavery is rampant in Eastern Nigeria. It is a tribal issue. In the Congo, Pygmies are often enslaved by the other ethnic groups. It is not unique to Islam. Please stick to the facts!!!!!
It’s odd that on this site, if I disagree with anyone, I am called a Muslim. What a strange cult you are operating in.
gravenimage says
Still no citations of proof from “Myrtle Upchuck”.
And no–she is not just disagreeing with people–she is spouting apologia and demanding that we ignore and condone the horrors of Islam.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. That is in fact exactly true.
Islam – ‘Submission’ – is *all about* slavery and enslavement. Allah is a slavemaster, cruel and capricious, utterly amoral; his grovelling slaves – ‘abdullah’ – slave of ‘allah’ – each seek to be, in their way, little tin allahs toward others.
Here is the astute American, James Freeman Clarke, in his book on world religions, discussing Islam and the fruits of Islam. Source: “Ten Great Religions.. Chapter 11. Mohammed and Islam. Section 5.” (One can find and read the whole thing online).
“”Two recent travellers, Mr. Palgrave and Mr. Vambéry, have described the present state of Mohammedanism in Central Arabia and Turkistan, or Central Asia.
“Barth has described it as existing among the negroes in North Africa.
“Count Gobineau has told us of Islam as it is in Persia at the present day.
“Mr. MacFarlane, in his book “Kismet, or the Doom of Turkey,” has pointed out the gradual decay of that power, and the utter corruption of its administration.
“After reading such works as these,—and among them let us not forget Mr. Lane’s “Modern Egyptians,”—the conclusion we must inevitably come to is, that the worst Christian government, be it that of the Pope or the Czar, is very much better than the best Mohammedan government.
‘Everywhere we find arbitrary will taking the place of law.
“In most places the people have no protection for life or property, and know the government only through its tax-gatherers.
“And all this is necessarily and logically derived from the fundamental principle of Mohammedan theology. God is pure will, not justice, not reason, not love.
‘Christianity says, “God is love”; Mohammedanism says, “God is will.” Christianity says, “Trust in God”; Mohammedanism says, “Submit to God.”
‘Hence the hardness, coldness, and cruelty of the system; hence its utter inability to establish any good government…”.
More, from section 6 of the same chapter:
‘Mr. Palgrave, who has given the latest and best account of the condition of Central and Southern Arabia, under the great Wahhabee revival, sums up all Mohammedan theology as teaching a Divine unity of pure will.
‘God is the only force in the universe. Man is wholly passive and impotent.
‘He calls the system, “A pantheism of force.”
‘God has no rule but arbitrary will.
‘He is a tremendous unsympathizing autocrat, but is yet jealous of his creatures, lest they should attribute to themselves something which belongs to him.
‘He delights in making all creatures feel that they are his slaves.
‘This, Mr. Palgrave asserts, is the main idea of Mohammedanism, and of the Koran, and this was what lay in the mind of Mohammed….”.
and Mr Clarke’s conclusion – “It [Islam] It makes life barren and empty. It encourages a savage pride and cruelty. It makes men tyrants or slaves, women puppets, religion the submission to an infinite despotism.”
Spot on.
The *key* to Islam is its apotheosis of brute force, its adoration of amoral Power. This is why Muslims bow to the ‘strong horse’ principle; why mass-murdering despots and psychopathic assassins and torturers *abound* throughout Islamic history. Because the ultimate amoral exercise of power is as a slavemaster who **kills the slave**.. why? because he can, because he wants to, because he *enjoys* dominating, torturing and *killing*…. just like allah!
dumbledoresarmy says
Has this ‘Myrtle Upchuck’ (what a gross user-name) ever posted here at jihadwatch before now? *I* don’t recall seeing her moniker *ever*.. though I have not been as regular here in the past few months as I used to be, so I might have missed it.
But all of a sudden, up she pops in this thread, busily attempting all kinds of tu quoque.
Or pretending that because communist China is a threat (which it *is*) Islam isn’t, or something like that, or that we should be worrying about *anything at all* rather than Jihad.
It doesn’t seem to occur to her at all that most sensible people have identified *both* the Ummah *and* totalitarian China as terrible threats to free humanity, and are busy working out responses to *both*.
Also: so far as I can see, because of the enormous hijra – immigration-invasion – that has taken place into previously entirely-non-Islamic parts of Africa and Europe and various other less-looked-at portions of the world, in the past 50 years, accelerating in the past 20, Muslims have a *much bigger* and more active Fifth Column entrenched within the dar al Harb, than the Chinese communists.
The handy thing is this: that where people – as in Australia- have belatedly become aware of the insidious deployment of ‘soft power’ and weaponising of Chinese expats (such as students) by the Chinese communist regime, it becomes possible for the counter jihad to start pointing out that the *Ummah* oil states have been doing *exactly the same thing** on an *enormous scale*, with a *far* bigger budget, for *longer*.
If we start to push back against Chinese communist entrisme in finance, real estate, academia, etc, then *exactly* the same tactics need to be used to push back against *MUSLIM* entrisme…
gravenimage says
DDA, I comment here everyday, and have never seen the grotesquely named “Myrtle Upchuck” before she showed up on this thread with her sickening apologia for slavery.
Myrtle Upchuck says
Leave my name out of it! My name is what I carry and you have no business to comment on it. If you don’t like it, keep it to yourself. At least my name is not sinful like “Gravenimage”. As an idolater, you should hide your face in shame.
gravenimage says
This is a public forum; of course we can comment on poster’s usernames here if we so desire.
And “Mrytle Upchuck” ranting about my being “sinful” and an “idolator” after her grotesque description of Christianity, above, is just ludicrous. (As many here know, my username is just a tongue-in-cheek reference to my being an artist).
And no, I don’t consider opposing slavery to be “shameful”. Actually, what I consider shameful is *condoning* it, as this vile apologist for evil does.