Professor Nguyen’s claim is disingenuous and misleading. He echoes Hamas-linked CAIR talking points in claiming that jihad “trying to make ends meet” or “getting a great education,” and apparently leaves unanswered the question of whether the Qur’an promotes “aggression or armed combat,” whether or not it uses the word “jihad” in that context. Let’s look at the record:
“And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.” (Qur’an 2:191-193)
“They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)
“This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.” (Qur’an 5:33)
“When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!” (Qur’an 8:12)
“Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.” (Qur’an 8:39)
“Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
“Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.” (Qur’an 9:5)
“Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
“Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.” (Qur’an 9:111)
“O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.” (Qur’an 9:123)
“When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.” (Qur’an 47:4)
How have Muslims throughout history understood these passages? They took them as meaning “My jihad is trying to make ends meet. My jihad is getting a great education,” right? Unfortunately, the historical record is not quite so full of laughter and sunshine. Find out how Muslims throughout history have actually understood the Qur’an’s exhortations to warfare in my new book, The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, which you can preorder here.
“Expert defines Islam for Greenwich audience,” by Ken Borsuk, Greenwich Time, July 25, 2018:
GREENWICH — In trying to explain the history and pillars of faith for Islam, not to mention its place in American culture, all within an hour, Martin Tran Nguyen, admitted he had “quite a tall order” ahead of him.
Nguyen sought to dispel misconceptions many Americans have about the religion in his talk before an audience of more than 100 at the Retired Men’s Association of Greenwich on Wednesday morning.
“There is an immense diversity when it comes to who Muslims are,” said Nguyen, an associate professor of Islamic religious traditions at Fairfield University. His credentials include a master’s degree in theological studies from Harvard Divinity School plus a master’s in history and a doctorate in Middle Eastern studies and history from Harvard University….
“Think about how the popular imagination in America thinks,” Nguyen said. “We think Arabs and Islam are synonymous, but only one in five of Muslims would identify as Arab. They are in fact elsewhere, mostly in the Asian Pacific region.”…
During his presentation, he talked about the commonalities of Islam and other religions, including how the teachings of the gospels, the psalms and the Torah are in the Qur’an; the pillars of the Muslim faith; the differences between the majority Sunni Muslims and the minority Shi’a; and the history of how the faith has developed and grown in America. Its roots are in the international slave trade, with many Muslims from Africa captured and brought to the Colonies….
ISIS reinforced the “terrorist image” for all Muslims because of the actions of a few, he said. And he noted that Muslims condemned the acts of ISIS and that more Muslims were victims of ISIS.
Nguyen also discussed the meaning of the word “jihad” and how it is used in the Qur’an.
“The word jihad is an interesting one because it appears in the Qur’an on several occasions, but the way it is used in the Qur’an is not its later meaning,” he said. “We all think of jihad as holy war. That’s the popular understanding of it. But the way it’s used in the Qur’an it means a struggle. You can say, ‘My jihad is trying to make ends meet. My jihad is getting a great education.’ Muslims know jihad as ways through personal struggle reflected by face. The Qur’an never uses the specific word jihad to mean aggression or armed combat.”
Though the Qur’an does talk about defending one’s self, jihad is not meant to be used that way, Nguyen said. It has been used as propaganda by those who were in power to justify combat and in the current climate as a “way to reclaim glory and strike against oppressors,” he said, which creates a muddied image of what jihad is….
Michael Copeland says
“Using deception to mask intended goals” is a stated aim in the Muslim Brotherhood plan.
mortimer says
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
gravenimage says
+1
Hal says
Mortimer – those verses are about jihad but only about 30 verses in the Koran actually contain the word “jihad”. Dr Nguyen is certainly being disingenuous but even in his narrow terms he is wrong. This is the text of an email I will be sending him shortly to explain (without much hope of a response):
Dear Dr Nguyen
I have seen you quoted as saying in a public meeting “The Qur’an never uses the specific word jihad to mean aggression or armed combat”.
I have to challenge that statement with, as a good example, verse 9:41.
As I expect you know, this site gives us the Arabic transliteration, the literal word for word translation plus fifty scholarly translations for each verse of the Koran:
https://www.islamawakened.com/quran/9/41/default.htm
The transliteration shows the word “wajahidoo” which is the relevant part of speech for “jihad”.
The very mainstream Pickthall translation, gives the verse as:
“Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew.”
In my view the word “jihad” clearly refers to armed combat in this instance (and many of the other translations say the same in slightly different words). I would be grateful if you could explain why I am wrong.
Also, extrapolating, I think this verse shows what the phrase “striving in Allah’s way” means in the other verses which include variations of it without the explicit reference to going to war, ie 4:95, 5:35, 5:54, 9:19 and 22:78.
mortimer says
LIAR ! We must assume that Prof. Martin Tran Nguyen is INTENTIONALLY LYING about jihad and that he is NOT merely STUPID!
The DEFINITIONS OF JIHAD ARE WELL-KNOWN AND EASILY AVAILABLE, so Prof. Nguyen is OBVIOUSLY A DAMN LIAR.
The Islamic DEFINITIONS OF JIHAD say that JIHAD IS WARFARE against the DISBELIEVERS … a BIGOTED WARFARE predicated by having the ‘WRONG’ RELIGION.
OFFICIAL DEFINITION OF JIHAD PUBLISHED IN SAUDI ARABIA:
The following commentary is as close to an “official” definition of jihad as we can get. It is contained in the footnotes of the ‘The Noble Quran’, which is the translation distributed by the Saudis in millions of copy, a footnote to the mentioned Quran 2:190 (verse of the sword) explains it in detail:
“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”
“Jihad,” defined by Bukhari as “Holy fighting in Allah’s Cause.” A more complete explanation is provided in the Book of Jihad, on page 580 of Maktba Dar-us-Salam’s publication of Sahih Al-Bukhari: “Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its Pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah is made superior and He becomes the only God who may be worshiped. By Jihad Islam is propagated and made superior. By abandoning Jihad (may Allah protect us from that) Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position. Their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, and Muslim rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape this duty dies as a hypocrite.”
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Allah commands jihad in the Koran; Allah knows best
Qur’an 2:216 “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims), though you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and like a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not.”
Those who do not commit jihad are “hypocrites”
Qur’an 4:95 “Not equal are those believers who sit at home and receive no injurious hurt, and those who strive hard, fighting Jihad in Allah’s Cause with their wealth and lives. Allah has granted a rank higher to those who strive hard, fighting Jihad with their wealth and bodies to those who sit. Allah prefers Jihadists who strive hard and fight above those who sit at home. He has distinguished his fighters with a huge reward.”
Jihad brings the greatest “reward” from Allah, thus it is the highest deed in Islam.
Bukhari:V4B52N44 “A man came to Allah’s Apostle and said, ‘Instruct me as to such a deed as equals Jihad in reward.’ He replied, ‘I do not find such a deed.'”
Bukhari:V1B2N25 “Allah’s Apostle was asked, ‘What is the best deed?’ He replied, ‘To believe in Allah and His Apostle Muhammad.’ The questioner then asked, ‘What is the next best in goodness?’ He replied, ‘To participate in Jihad, religious fighting in Allah’s Cause.'”
-Ibn Taimiyyah (1263 – 1328) one of the greatest Muslim scholars of all times clarified: “There is a Hadith related by a group of people which states that the Prophet (s.a.w) said after the battle of Tabuk: ‘We have returned from Jihad Asghar to Jihad Akbar’. This hadith has no source, nobody whomsoever in the field of Islamic knowledge has narrated it. Jihad against the disbelievers is the most noble of actions, and moreover it is the most important action for the sake of mankind.” [Refer: Al Furqan baina Auliyair Rahman wa Auliyaisy Shaitaan, matter 44-45].
-Another hadith narrates: A man asked the prophet: “…And what is Jihad?” He replied: “You fight against the disbelievers when you meet them.” He asked again: “What kind of Jihad is the highest?” He replied: “The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood.” [Narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad 4/114 – Hadith Sahih. Al Haithami states: “Narrators upheld it.” Majmauz Zawaid 1/59].
-Palestinian Definition of Jihad
“Jihad is the Islamic term equivalent to the word ‘war’ among other nations. The difference is that jihad is [war] for the sake of noble and exalted goals, and for the sake of Allah… whereas other nations’ wars are wars of evil for the sake of occupying land and seizing natural resources, and for other materialistic goals and base aspirations.”(Al-Thaqafa Al-Islamiyya (Islamic Education), Ministry of Education, Palestinian Authority, Ramallah, 2003, p. 208.)
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Definition of Jihad: (The Book of Jihad by Ibn Nuhass)
The linguistic meaning:
• Lisan Alarab: Fighting the enemy. It involves using all effort in
words and deeds.
• Mujam matn al lughah: Jihad is commonly used to refer to waging
war for the sake of Al-haqq (the truth)
In Islamic terminology it means:
Calling towards the true religion and fighting with one’s soul and wealth
against those who reject it. (Al Inayah Sharh al Hidayah (Hanafi))
Jihad is fighting. (Al Sheerazi in al Muhadhab (Shafi’i)
Jihad is a Muslim waging war agianst a non-Muslim who has no peace
agreement with Muslims and the fighting is for the sake of the word of
Allah to prevail. Jihad is also fighting the non-Muslim who attacks Muslim
territory and it is also the Muslims attacking the non-Muslims in their land.
(Mawahib al Jaleel fi Sharh Mukhtasar Khalil (Maliki))
Jihad is a cure for the individual and the society. It cures the individual by
delivering him from the sickness of disbelief to the wellbeing of Islam.
Disbelieving in Allah is the greatest disease of all and the most destructive
on all humanity, while Islam is the complete cure. Jihad cures the society by eliminating the source of corruption and oppression. Leaving the
disbeliever unharmed increases the disease and strengthens it and allows
the cancer to spread. Therefore Islam cannot flourish and Muslims cannot
live in peace unless the disease is cured. If it is possible to cure the disease
by using a medicine then be it. Otherwise the infected portion must be
amputated even though the amputation could cause pain and suffering for
the body. But then no one could claim that the amputation cruel or
inhumane. It was necessary for the survival of the body. That is precisely
the role of Jihad in Islam. First the message should be conveyed through
peaceful means. If the peaceful course is exhausted and it did not bear its
fruits, the bearers of the truth would need to draw their swords and fight in order for the word of Allah to prevail. (pp.8-9, The Book of Jihad by Ibn Nuhass)
Red Bee says
It is obvious to people who have a more or less accurate idea of what Islam is all about the professor is lying. The fact he gets away with this proves the vast majority of the electorate does not have any idea about what Islam is. As I see it, one of our main problems is how to reach these people. I made my website (click my name) with the idea that Islam cannot survive a close look at it. If we can induce people to take a close look at it themselves they will wake up (as I did).
At the moment I am experimenting on Second Life (a computer game). It proves to be extraordinarily difficult to induce people to even take a look at my site.
We need new ways to spread the message beyond the choir. If anyone has ideas please share them.
mortimer says
Red Bee, we must practice the FAN-OUT. YOU should FAN-OUT by informing those who will listen to you… hand them literature, books, pamphlets. Make your own pamphlets. Send them emails with videos and articles about Islamic jihad.
Speak quietly to everyone who will listen and warn them of Islam’s intentions of world conquest. Remind them that “IT ISN’T THE EVIL PEOPLE, IT’S THE EVIL IDEOLOGY that is the problem.”
The ideology of Islam gives jihadists permission to do anything to anyone, even to other Muslims. That’s why it’s so evil.
Islam cannot be reformed, but only abandoned. We should let Muslims know that and encourage them to leave it.
Unless you own a TV network, FAN-OUT is the most effective way for all of us.
Jaladhi says
Disgusting! Fake “experts” on Quran spreading the usual Muslim lies!
Cicero says
This Professor Nguyen is an Islamic convert. He is probably, by the sound of his name, of Vietnamese heritage.
I once worked with a lovely British Vietnamese young man whose parents were boat refugees who had fled the Vietnam war. He was charming, friendly and highly intelligent. We discussed what brpight his family to the UK. We talked anout him being brought up as Roman Catholic and being taught to play the piano as a child. He reminisced about his lost adlorscence growong his hair waist length and playing in a rock band. We went on some training at a local community centre and I was surprised at how respectfully andcwarmly hecwas hailed by the local Bangladeshis . Hecwas hugged, clapped on his back and told “welcome brother !!!” by each and every one of them. Ithen discovered he was a Muslim convert !! No need to tell you this was in the Islamic Borough of Tower Hamlets Londonistan..
mortimer says
Nguyen should be FORENSICALLY AUDITED to find out where he STASHED HIS BRIBES.
gravenimage says
Cicero, you may be right. I had assumed Nguyen was just a dhinmi fool, but among his books he has written this: “Modern Muslim Theology: Engaging God and the World with Faith and Imagination”. It is hard to imagine an Infidel–even one shilling for the “religion of peace”–would write a book from this perspective.
mortimer says
Someone paid him to write it. A French doctor Maurice Bucaille who had worked for the House of Saud was paid to write a book about so-called Koranic science. It was a bunch of textual rubbish. The Koran is in fact a flat-earth book with the all the wrong ‘science’ known to a 7th century Bedouin who thought stars were ‘lamps’ close to earth that Allah could throw at demons. The Koran gets practically nothing correct.
The French doctor Bucaille DID NOT convert to Islam. He was PAID OFF.
Nguyen was also paid.
melek-ric says
“His credentials include a master’s degree in theological studies from Harvard Divinity School plus a master’s in history and a doctorate in Middle Eastern studies and history from Harvard University….”
Would this be the same Harvard University that’s been awash in Saudi oil money for decades? Just doing his masters’ bidding…
mortimer says
Mel, I suspect Nguyen has been BRIBED by Arab oil money to convey DISINFORMATION about JIHAD.
I have refuted his claims above about the DEFINITION OF JIHAD by quoting Islamic sources.
The DEFINITION OF JIHAD is well-known in the CANONICAL Islamic texts, so Prof. Nguyen is EXPOSED an INTENTIONAL LIAR.
gravenimage says
Actually, he may be a convert to Islam himself. See above.
mortimer says
You are an ass, JB. You appear to have Tourette’s Syndrome. Jihad Watch is deprogramming. You reveal your complete ignorance in this matter. You are a racist supremacist and are not a part of the counterjihad… a human rights movement.
Here are examples of deprogramming:
Jordan Peterson Destroys Islam in 15 Seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrLoFzKhE-o
Box of Islam by Hamed Abdel Samad, political science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmagdEfTAp0&t=132s
Don’t Convert 2 Islam – 35 videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/Converted2Islam
Halal Bacon says
Gee, and I thought using loads of kinetic energy to make your point was jihad
mortimer says
HB, ALL jihad is AGGRESSION against people with the ‘wrong’, non-Islamic religion. That’s 80% of the world population.
esther says
the absolute and most reliable sign of hypocrisy in any apology for islam is
“SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT IN THE KORAN”
Islamic scholars interpret the Koran and their FOLLOWERS say and
CHANT….. even more revealing—LISTEN TO WHAT THE CHILDREN SAY
mortimer says
“WHERE IT SAYS JIHAD IN THE KORAN …”
Here:
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
John C. Massam says
Keep up the good work exposing the taqiyya, or lies, of the followers of Mohammed.
James Lincoln says
And I was naïve enough to think that Fairfield University was a private Jesuit Catholic Research University.
Sounds like this particular Professor went to college – Harvard even -, got advanced degrees, all to “get stupid”.
If any student is attending a college or university in 2018 and is not a STEM major, that student is wasting his or her money. And the liberal arts professors will turn you into a leftard to boot.
mgoldberg says
I remember reading ‘Faith, Reason and the War against Jihadism’ by the Catholic scholar, George Weigel
back in about 2008′ or so. I don’t imagine Prof Nguyen has him on the reading list at the catholic college where he disseminates Taquiya.
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
Almost every verse in the Qur’an and almost every Hadith. Where has this guy been, up his backside?
Mark A. says
Pure taqiyya.
mortimer says
Piles of hot, steaming, farm-fresh TAQIYYA/DISINFORMATION … and INTENTIONAL LIES.
Emilie Green says
“And for my next fairy tale I will discuss the Perpetual Motion Machine.”
mortimer says
Emilie, the main PLOY of Muslim apologists is to EXPLAIN how the perfectly ‘clear’ words of Allah are not ‘clear’ at all and require an expert to explain that they mean the OPPOSITE of what they actually say on the surface.
Example: SLAY THE DISBELIEVERS actually means hug the disbelievers and serve them tea.
mortimer says
Yes, Emilie,
Allah is the WORST COMMUNICATOR in history, because his statements always mean the OPPOSITE of what they plainly say on the surface.
duh swami says
The Quran doesn’t use the word ‘Bullshit’ either yet every page is loaded with it…
Lydia Church says
Bingo!
They are just playing word games.
The fact is that the koran is full of jihad.
mortimer says
Lydia, this is VERBAL JIHAD … spreading disinformation about jihad … whitewashing jihad.
mortimer says
According to Prof. Harry G. Frankfurt, “bullshit” is a problem focussed on the intentions or agenda.
“Bullshitting”, as he notes, “is not exactly lying, and bullshit remains bullshit whether it’s true or false.” The difference lies in the bullshitter’s complete disregard for whether what he’s saying corresponds to facts in the physical world: he “does not reject the authority of the truth, as the liar does, and oppose himself to it. He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.”
Ngyuen is making PROPAGANDA for Islam. I assume they are paying him to do that.
Norger says
Didn’t know there existed such a scholarly definition of “bullshit.” 99% of what the MSM says Islam is “bullshit.”
Jan Aage Jeppesen says
Professor Nguyen is playing Humpty Dumpty and hope the audience is stupid enough to buy his nonsense:
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean- neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – that’s all.”
John Harvey says
1. To Robert or someone else who knows Arabic: do the quotes from the Quran presented use the word jihad? Do they use a related verb such as jahada or jāhada? [In the latter, the first a is long.]
2. Quran 2:191 is not aggressive but defensive. Everything depends on whom “them” refers to. The preceding verse is
“And fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not commit aggression; Allah does not love the aggressors.”
duh swami says
If ‘Fight them until…’ doesn’t mean ‘Fight them until, what does it mean?
jayell says
I wonder if Professor Nguyen is ever likely to see the excellent answers to his dubious assertion on this thread? Would he answer them? And particularly Mortimer’s? Or is he just preaching that ‘red’ is ‘green’ because he knows that his audience is deliberately colour-blind?
Politicianophobia says
Speaking of liars, where is Justine Trudeau? Justine has been missing ever since the Toronto shooting. He must realize that Canadians are waiting for the damn liar to surface. Impending question– Why were Canadians not told that the Toronto shooter’s brother, who has been in a coma for a year and half–probably from ingesting carfentanil, and not just a simple drug over dose as reported. It seems in 2017 there was a call to a house on Liatras Drive in Pickering, Ontario, home of the brother of the Toronto shooter, Farad Hussain. Pickering is 40 kms. east of Toronto.
At the house, there was a stockpile of weapons, including 31 identical, “high-end” hand guns, and the largest stockpile of carfentanil ever found in North America. 42 Kilos of carfentanil. Andrew Webber, Assistant Secretary of Defence for Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Defence said carfentanil was used as a chemical weapon before people realized it could be sold as a street drug. Carfentanil is 100 times stronger than fentanyl. One dose the size of a sand pebble could kill you.
Perhaps Canada avoided a 911 2 and the government just forgot to tell the Canadian citizens. No wonder they took so long to tell us who the shooter in Toronto was. The damn, filthy liars. Is M-103 meant to shut us up–you betcha.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr spencer, there is a mistranslation of all the verses you have cited or did it by yourself without knowledge to dispute what the learned professor rightly pointed out. All the verses use the term “qatiluuhum (fight) them) “not “uqtuluhum (kill them). There is no where in the Quran or Hadith the term”uqtuluhum (kill them)”is used in reference to jîhad fighting. Even “fight them “is referring to hostile non-muslim combatants at the the battle front,not civilian population . In that situation Muslim combatants are allowed to hit all parts of the body, including smiting of heads or necks to subdue the confronting enemy. Check standards Tafsirs on the interpretations of those verses.
As i explained in my previous comments, the general rule in Islam is peace. Jihad fighting is an exceptional circumstance for self defence or protect those under oppression. Even where jihad fighting is resorted to the hostile non-muslims have to be invited to incline to peace. They have the options, either accept to be Muslims or sign peace treaty with Muslims ànd remain independent allies of the Muslims. If they accept non of these options, then they can be attacked. But under no circumstance shall Muslims fight non-muslims who do not fight muslims or hostile non-muslims who signed peace treaty except where they have breached the terms of the treaty they have signed . All valid jihad fought by Muslims were conducted in accordance with these rules laid down by the sharia right from time of Prophet Muhammad and rightly guided caliph because the prophet warned that any infraction of such rules of Sharia will render jihad fighting to be invalid not acceptable to Allah.
Wellington says
You get peace with Islam, Ibrahim, only if you accept it as the master faith. If you do not submit to this, then peace is not forthcoming (and such a peace is only for those with a slave mentality in the first place, be they Muslim or dhimmis). By now, you should know that so many of us here at JW comprehend that Islam is the turd in the punch bowl of world religions and that we know, among so many other matters, the many word games Islam plays.
So, cool it with the “peace shit.” No one of sense and knowledge is buying it and the percentage of humanity who are not is growing with each passing year. Your religion is a fraud, the character of Mohammed is that of a brutal psychopath, the Koran is a made-up hate manual and war manual, and may your Allah strike me down tonight, as I have challenged your non-existent deity to do before, if I am wrong about what I have averred here.
Learn all this because Islam sucks. Time for a beer.
VRWC member77 says
OH Ibrahin !!………………. you are one consistent vile liar.
********** RELIANCE OF THE TRAVELER, A Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law **********************
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—- JIHAD (0: JIHAD MEANS TO WAR AGAINST NON-MUSLIMS, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada, signifying warfare to establish the religion. And it is the lesser jihad. As for the greater jihad, it is spiritual warfare against the lower self (nafs), which is why the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said as he was returning from jihad,
“We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad.”
The scriptural basis for jihad, prior to scholarly consensus (def: b7) is such Koranic verses as:
(1) “Fighting is prescribed for you” (Koran 2:216);
(2) “Slay them wherever you find them” (Koran 4:89);
(3) “Fight the idolators utterly” (Koran 9:36);
and such hadiths as the one related by Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said:
“I have been commanded to fight people until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and perform the prayer, and pay zakat. If they say it, they have saved their blood and possessions from me, except for the rights ofIslam over them. And their final reckoning is with Allah”;
and the hadith reported by Muslim,
“To go forth in the morning or evening to fight in the path of Allah is better than the whole world and everything in it.”
This is official Islamic Law — aka Sharia — doctrine.
gravenimage says
The vicious Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr spencer, there is a mistranslation of all the verses you have cited or did it by yourself without knowledge to dispute what the learned professor rightly pointed out. All the verses use the term “qatiluuhum (fight) them) “not “uqtuluhum (kill them). There is no where in the Quran or Hadith the term”uqtuluhum (kill them)”is used in reference to jîhad fighting.
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Well, sure! Muslims may “just” enslave and rape the women and children, as the pious Ibrahim itace muhammed has said many times. Only an “Islamophobe” would take issue with that…
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Even “fight them “is referring to hostile non-muslim combatants at the the battle front,not civilian population . In that situation Muslim combatants are allowed to hit all parts of the body, including smiting of heads or necks to subdue the confronting enemy. Check standards Tafsirs on the interpretations of those verses.
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What tripe. Islam does not accept the concept of civilians. In fact, when asked about killing women and children, the thuggish “Prophet” said his followers should not worry about it, since they were “of them”.
As for that “battlefield”, often that is no more than the victims’ own town:
The Prophet said, “Allahu Akbar! Khaybar is destroyed! When we arrive in a people’s square it is a bad morning for those who have been warned!”
This was obviously not a clash of soldiers on a formal battlefield–it was a raid on non-combatants. This was very common for Muhammed–and a model for all Muslims since.
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As i explained in my previous comments, the general rule in Islam is peace. Jihad fighting is an exceptional circumstance for self defence or protect those under oppression.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed himself has said that Muslims have the right to slaughter anyone who does not submit to Islam. What do Muslims consider “oppression”? Any people allowed to live free of the heel of Islam.
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Even where jihad fighting is resorted to the hostile non-muslims have to be invited to incline to peace. They have the options, either accept to be Muslims or sign peace treaty with Muslims ànd remain independent allies of the Muslims. If they accept non of these options, then they can be attacked.
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In other words, they have to convert to Islam or agree to live as threatened, oppressed dhimmis. If they do not, they are fair game to be butchered.
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But under no circumstance shall Muslims fight non-muslims who do not fight muslims or hostile non-muslims who signed peace treaty except where they have breached the terms of the treaty they have signed .
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All of these “valid peace treaties” involve dhimmitude and tribute or Jizya. No Infidels are ever allowed to live as equals if Muslims believe they can force submission.
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All valid jihad fought by Muslims were conducted in accordance with these rules laid down by the sharia right from time of Prophet Muhammad and rightly guided caliph because the prophet warned that any infraction of such rules of Sharia will render jihad fighting to be invalid not acceptable to Allah.
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Ibrahim itace muhammed does not understand that we know just how barbaric this is.
gravenimage says
Fine posts, Wellington and VRWC member77.
Giacomo Latta says
Check official islam websites for their official translation, **it*ace. Then get in line or should we inform real muslims that you are apostate.
FYI says
Can the Professor explain the following statement please?
{It doesn’t require a Masters in Theology}
regarding the Jews “Be ye apes,despised and hated” koran 2:65
1 Explain why allah is an antisemitic racist bigot.Good luck.
2 Given that Moses and Jesus Christ are Jews,explain the logic
behind allah’s reference to the Jews as “apes”?How can a god who claims to be God have a virulent,antisemitic bias?
3Why should the Jews be “despised and hated” ..just for being Jews?
Isn’t that antisemitic bigotry?Is that not hate speech?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
FYI, check the story of those jews turned to apes, it was some Jews that were cursed for violating the law of Sabbath and were turned to apes.All of them died without leaving behind offsprings.As such the present Jews are not the descendants of those Jews turned to apes.Ignorant fool!!
Wellington says
Whew! Glad you cleared that up, Ibrahim.
BTW, exactly which kind of ape—gibbon, chimpanzee, gorilla or orangutan? Just wonderin’.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed trying to present Islam as not being antisemitic is absurd. He himself has said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews.
mgoldberg says
Oh rubbish. This is just more of the lying you and all jihadist followers peddle. For example:
As Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi stated, “All spears should be directed at the Jews, at the enemies of Allah, the nation that was cursed in Allah’s book. Allah has described them as apes and pigs, the calf-worshipers, idol-worshipers… Whoever can fight them with his weapons, should go out [to the battle]; whoever can fight them with a machinegun, should go out; whoever can fight them with a sword or a knife, should go out; whoever can fight them with his hands, should go out; This is our destiny… The Jews have exposed their fangs. Nothing will deter them, except the color of their filthy people’s blood; nothing will deter them except for us voluntarily detonating ourselves in their midst. They have nuclear power, but we have the power of the belief in Allah… We blow them up in Hadera, we blow them up in Tel Aviv and in Netanya.”- August 3, 2001, Sheikh Ibrahim Madhi, Sheik ‘Ijlin Mosque in Gaza, PA Television.
There are a thousand such sermons by muslims using this against all others. You see… it’s always used to peddle the Jihadist reasoning, the muslim reason for destroying and gutting others. And it is always used to celebrate the slaughtering, the homidicism, the serial murdering of others. You know, like Mo’
PABLO says
Yes, this professor knows more about Islam than Mohammed himself and 1400 hundred years of barbarism was all just a misunderstanding of the texts.
gravenimage says
Fairfield University professor: “Qur’an never uses the specific word jihad to mean aggression or armed combat”
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Another dhimmi tool.
gravenimage says
Or he may be a Muslim convert.
Politicianophobia says
How terribly funny, just when we are talking about fools and LIARS, poof, up pops Ibby, The Filthy, Thighing Master.
Larry A. Singleton says
Again; Just a few of the many articles and essays about Jihad. This usually shuts them up:
Jihad Essays 1-8-18
Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in the Qur’an by Ayatullah Morteza Mutahhari.
Jihad in Islam by Abul A’La Maududi.
The Call to Jihad (Fighting for Allah’s Cause) in the Qur’an by Sheikh Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid. And yes,”(Fighting for Allah’s Cause)” is in the title. Found in both my Summarized and nine volume Sahih Al-Bukharis.
Jihad is the Way by Mustafa Mashur.
Jihad in the Cause of God by Sayyid Qutb.
Kitāb al-Jihād by Abdullah Ibn Al-Mubarak. (Abd Allah Ibn al-Mubarak)
Jihad: The Forgotten Obligation by Muhammad Abdus Salam Faraj
The Qur’anic Concept of War by Brig. S.K. Malik
Bill Warner, PhD: Jihad vs Crusades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
Note: A couple of these articles helped when it comes to the claim about “self-defense” or “defensive jihad”. And helped with info about Muslims bs; coming to the aid of those who are “oppressed”. i.e. Jihad.
Daniel Greenfield Moment: Palestine is Colonialism.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/daniel-greenfield-moment-palestine-is-colonialism
gravenimage says
Great list, Larry.
Larry A. Singleton says
I know this sounds silly, but I get all warm and fuzzy every time you pay me a complement “gravenimage”.
I sometimes use you as an example of the differences between those who read the NY Times, HuffPost, etc or watch CNN, MSNBC etc.
I refer to the fact that the comments from people like you at Jihad Watch are sometimes as informative as the articles themselves, many times posting links to articles and other information related to the issues.
I usually submit that the target audience of those above like the NY Times and MSNBC are those people who are “too stupid and too lazy to study the issues and READ.”
I note that the readers of JW are highly informed on the issues and again a great resource all by themselves.
I found a perfect example of those liberal useful idiots I go back and forth with on my Fakebook page at FrontPage:
“….progressives, are pretty much immune to reason, evidence, and coherent argument, little of which makes it into their courses. As the old gag goes, arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon: It knocks over the pieces, craps on the board, then struts around like it won the game.
“reason, evidence, and coherent argument” and common sense and common decency; All those things you can find at Jihad Watch and its readers like gravenimage.
Larry A. Singleton says
I wonder if this is a good example;
This “professor” is trying to add; two plus two equals five. What he’s trying to do is add “The religion of peace” and “The spread of Islam” and trying to make them equal or mean the same thing.
I wish I were more eloquent or word wise. I’m sure someone could do a better job with this.
I’ve taken on dozens and dozens of Muslims and liberals and asked them to take “The religion of peace” and “The spread of Islam”, then go do their homework, come back and then convince me that the one compliments the other. I’ve never gotten a response.
Again; I usually give them a little help by adding my “Jihad” list:
Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in the Qur’an by Ayatullah Morteza Mutahhari.
Jihad in Islam by Abul A’La Maududi.
The Call to Jihad (Fighting for Allah’s Cause) in the Qur’an by Sheikh Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid. And yes,”(Fighting for Allah’s Cause)” is in the title. Found in both my Summarized and nine volume Sahih Al-Bukharis.
Jihad is the Way by Mustafa Mashur.
Jihad in the Cause of God by Sayyid Qutb.
Kitāb al-Jihād by Abdullah Ibn Al-Mubarak. (Abd Allah Ibn al-Mubarak)
Jihad: The Forgotten Obligation by Muhammad Abdus Salam Faraj
The Qur’anic Concept of War by Brig. S.K. Malik
For years I’ve submitted my “Questions for Muslims” letter where I ask them to read Humaid’s article on Jihad and
Explain this articles prominence, and significance almost as an “Introduction”, in a book, my Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari, and tell me….
….WHY, out of all the articles, out of all the words of pearly Muslim poetry and wisdom the publishers could have put in this, “the most authentic and true among the books of the Prophet”, this article on JIHAD is the one they chose?
Also
If Islam is the “religion of peace”, where in Sheikh Abdullah bin Humaid’s article on jihad can I find the equivalent of “Love Thy Neighbor” and “good will toward men”?
Compare Humaid’s “jihad” and Emmet Fox’ Sermon on the Mount and tell me which one best represents a spirit of Love and “compassion”
Also address “jihad” as it’s defined in Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.” And explain why the “greater” jihad is only mentioned once here and never seen again in this “Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”.
Max says
The main purpose of universities is no longer to expand knowledge but to expand socialism.
Giacomo Latta says
When you hear the word ”science” with respect to universities, think knowledge. When you hear the word ”arts” with respect to universities, think overpowering hate.
Giacomo Latta says
Did he also discuss the words ”Jew” and ”Christian” and how they are used in the koran?
Politicianophobia says
I spoke to a Canadian university prof yesterday and he did not know what M-103 is. Oh well he only teaches HISTORY lol I can’t help but wonder what he says about the crusades, Castro and Obama. In all fairness, he is a Liberal.
tim gallagher says
I think it’s obvious that the Koran is full of very direct calls for murderous violence against non-Muslims. This clown is surely trying to muddy the waters. But, the main thing is that endless Muslims certainly think they are called to violence and they carry out murderous terrorist attacks all around the world, while calling out “Allahu Akbar” or some such war cry. I think this professor’s attempts to obfuscate things are completely irrelevant. Unfortunately, though, some totally uninformed idiots might actually be swayed by his rubbish.
Tammy Swofford says
Muhammad participated in nine Ghazwat (battles). They are designated by battlefield location: Badr, Khandaq, Ta’if, etc. He traveled in about eighteen expeditions bent on conquest and had chain of command control over about five dozen saraya. Mohammed bin Ishaque was the first to write a primary chronicle of the battles of Muhammad, followed by Al-Waqdi at a later date (d.207 AH)
Either the professor is an idiot or just an ordinary liar. As always, a primary journalism question for me is “Who benefits?” Who benefits from the chimera presentation of Islam?
Nicholas A.Sayles says
270 million people have been mass murdered by islam in the last 1400 years. It all started because The prophet couldn’t get any one to convert to islam unless he was threaten with death. They are going to stop . There is no 12 step program for STUPID, No pill. We kill them or they are going to try to kill us.The question is how many of us die before we get it. The Democrats started with there military wing thew KLAN and now they have a new wing..Osama bin laden was a sub contractor. And IRAN . Major CONTRACTOR. To cover a wealth of mass murder , then covered by the FBI.