This article about Latino conversions, and others like it, should sound as a tocsin to the priests and ministers who have been part of the Latino community. They can continue to do nothing and watch as more and more Latinos apparently embrace Islam, based on a series of misrepresentations, beginning with those about the Islamic Jesus and Mary. Or they can react, and conduct a campaign of counter-Da’wa by stating some disturbing home truths about Islam.
What would such a campaign look like? The goal is to make sure would-be converts are fully informed about the most disturbing aspects of Islam. It should focus, first, on the 109 verses in the Qur’an that command Muslims to wage violent Jihad against non-Muslims, the half-dozen verses that that tell Muslims to “strike terror” in the hearts of the Infidels, the verse that tells them not to take Jews and Christians as friends, “for they are friends only with each other,” and the verse that describes non-Muslims as “the most vile of creatures.” They should learn that Muslims are taught to shun their own non-Muslim relatives, which would be a particular shock to Latinos for whom the extended family is so important. Clearly, Efrain Diaz is still deeply attached to his Christian relatives and would not like to learn that, according to Islam, he is not to continue to befriend them.
As for the disturbing news about the numbers of Latinas converting to Islam, clearly they need to be better informed before they convert — it’s much harder to unconvert people who have committed to Islam than to prevent their conversion in the first place — especially about what Islam says concerning the role and status of women. Latinas might be told, for example, that a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man, a rule that Muhammad himself justified by claiming that women were “deficient in intelligence.” The hadith, from Bukhari (3:826) goes like this:
“Mohammed asked some women, ‘Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?’ The women said, ‘yes,’ He said, ‘This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.’ “ In still another hadith, Bukhari 2:541, Mohammed tells women: “I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you.”
Then the inferiority of women in Islam should be pressed home. Daughters ordinarily inherit only half that of sons. Muslim women must endure polygyny. A disobedient wife may be “beaten” by her husband. A husband can divorce his wife merely by repeating the triple-talaq, but it’s a much more complicated business, hardly automatic, for a wife to obtain a divorce. In Islamic societies, male relatives often assume the role of guardians of females. Saudi Arabia provides the most extreme example of these male guardians regulating the lives of “their” women, but in other Muslim states female relatives are also subject to varying degrees of male control.
These are the kinds of things Latina women need to know. Such books as Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s autobiographical Nomad and Infidel, with hair-raising examples of the control exhibited over Muslim women by their male relatives, could be widely distributed, in both English and Spanish. That requires recognition of the conversion menace, and the will to do something about it.
Some may still not be sufficiently alarmed. But if you have read the Qur’an and the most important Hadith, and such works as The History of Jihad by Robert Spencer, you are likely to be inspired to join an effort to limit conversions to Islam.
“Cum undecima hora” — at the eleventh-hour, when it is almost too late — is how the medieval popes began their bulls, calling on Christians to repent and for missionaries (Dominicans, Franciscans) sent to the East to convert both Muslims and Mongols. Now the task is different, which is to prevent Christians from converting to Islam. And we should identify groups particularly at risk. These include African-American prisoners, seeking to join the strongest (Muslim) gang, one which justifies criminal behavior if it is conducted against the Infidels, with crimes of property viewed as merely helping oneself to a proleptic Jizyah. About 40,000 such prisoners convert each year to Islam. But you don’t hear about campaigns of counter-dawa being conducted in the prisons by Christian pastors to prevent such conversions. Why not? Have they been scared off by Muslims inside the prisons?
What would such a campaign, aimed at black prisoners, look like? It would focus on the history of Muslim racism — including hair-raisingly contemptuous remarks about blacks by many Islamic worthies, such as Ibn Khaldun, and even statements by Muhammad himself in the hadith. Would-be converts should learn, too, about about the history of the Arab slave trade in Africa, especially that involving African boys who were castrated on site, with a mortality rate of 90%, a slave trade that began earlier, ended later, and claimed tens of millions more victims, than did the Atlantic Slave Trade. The Arab slave trade ended only because of pressure from Western Infidels. Saudi Arabia officially ended slavery only in 1962, and several other Muslim countries ended it even later. Mauritania officially ended slavery in 2007, the last country to do so, but in fact, the Arabs continue to have black slaves, and the estimate of the anti-slavery groups is that there are now 600,000 black slaves in Mauritania. There are 200,000 black slaves now in Mali. Hundreds of thousands of black Africans were enslaved by the Arabs during the civil war in the Sudan. In Libya, a slave market selling Africans has been started up by Arabs in just in the past year. All this deserves to be better known, and especially among African-American prisoners who may be misinformed about Islam. We need to remind ourselves that there never was an Islamic William Wilberforce, because Muhammad himself, the Perfect Man and Model of Conduct, bought, owned, and traded slaves.
For Latinos, perhaps the first point worth making is that Islam teaches that Muslims must avoid “taking Christians and Jews as friends,” including one’s own relatives, which is likely to make a deep impression on a group for whom the extended family is so important. Efrain Diaz, for example, lives with his two daughters in a house with his parents, and many aunts and uncles. Would he be willing to regard those relatives as Unbelievers he must shun?
Anti-black racism in Islam, too, needs to be much better known among Latinos, many of whom are mixed race, as well as among African-Americans.
In the Hadith, we find these:
“Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, ‘Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin.’ And this: Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, ‘Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed.‘” (Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p. 375)
And there is this from the celebrated Arab historian Al-Tabari: “Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants [Africans] would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his [Ham’s] descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.” (Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21)
There is a long history of anti-black remarks among outstanding figures in Islamic history, still scarcely known:
Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406) was, among other things, an Islamic jurist, Islamic lawyer, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, and hafiz (one who has memorized the entire Qur’an). He is one of the most important figures in Islamic history. Here are two (among many) remarks he makes about black Africans in his Muqaddimah:
“Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated.”
“Beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings.”
Ibn Sina or Avicenna (980-1037), was another celebrated figure in Islamic history: a Hafiz, an Islamic psychologist, scholar, and theologian and, by our lights, a racist: “[Blacks are] people who are by their very nature slaves.”
Ibn Qutaybah (828-889), was a renowned Islamic scholar from Kufa, Iraq: “[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country.”
Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (1201-1274), was a Shia Muslim Scholar and Grand Ayatollah:
“If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth –In no other peculiarity or property – except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent.”
“The Zanj (African) differ from animals only in that] their two hands are lifted above the ground,… Many have observed that the ape is more teachable and more intelligent than the Zanj.”
Al-Muqaddasi (945/946-1000) was a medieval Muslim geographer:
Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that “there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people — but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence.” [Kitab al-Bad’ wah-tarikh, vol.4]
Al-Masudi (896-956), was a Muslim historian and geographer, known as the “Herodotus of the Arabs”:
“Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence.” (Al-Masudi, Muruj al-dhahab)
Ibn al-Faqih was a Muslim historian and geographer:
“A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq … do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two.” (from his Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD)
These are just a small sample of the racist remarks made by outstanding figures in Islamic thought, but ought to be made much more widely known.
Latinos would also profit, especially if mixed-race, from learning the history of the Arab slave trade. Such knowledge could have a salutary effect, at least in provoking thought, and curbing would-be converts’ enthusiasm for Islam. And then there is the real story of Islamic Spain, not that of the soothing tall tales about an interfaith “convivencia” in which everyone lived contentedly under wise Islamic rulers, but a history punctuated by Muslim massacres of both Christians and Jews. When allowed to live, both Christians and Jews had to pay the Jizyah and endure a series of other onerous requirements. That may also dampen the enthusiasm of those whose Latino heritage, with Spanish as their first language, might have made them especially interested in, and susceptible to, stories about the supposed “tolerance” of Islamic Spain.
One would like to believe that when these stories about a particular group that is proving remarkably open to conversion to Islam appear, that Christian clergy will be appropriately alarmed, and immediately go on the offensive, offering a campaign of counter-dawa that is tailored to the particular group whose members have been converting to Islam in significant numbers. Such an impulse needs to be encouraged and channeled. Would-be female converts should learn about the misogyny of Islam and grossly unequal treatment of the sexes. Lapsed suburban Catholics will require a different emphasis than African-American prisoners. Latinos will differ from both in what would likely prove to be of most negative significance for them about Islam.
There’s a demographic race now on between Islam and other faiths. What percentage of the American or European population will be Muslim, in 2025, in 2035, in 2045? It’s not just a matter of how many Muslim migrants are allowed in, or of what Muslim fertility rates are by comparison with non-Muslims. There are also, everywhere in the Western world, campaigns — mendacious, persistent, effective — to convert non-Muslims. In this country, they’ve had particular success among African-American prisoners, and now, it seems, are starting to have success as well among the large Latino population. Let’s hope more people will recognize the need to address this threat (first of all by recognizing that it is a threat), in order to slow down, or ideally to halt, or even reverse, these campaigns of conversion, by undermining, through nothing more than the unruffled deployment of facts and texts, the Islamic temptation.
Berengaria says
This entire article should be Required Reading by every African-American Prisoner & every Latino
Prisoner in our Florida State Prison System. These two groups are eager to convert to Islam, if they believe that they can assume power over Christian & Jewish People.
We in Florida have a situation in our Prison System where “Trolling Imams” are apparently allowed free reign inside these Centers. There are far too many Conversions to Islam, A Scary Situation, where each released Converted Prisoner is wanting to prove himself, against the Unbeliever.
Wellington says
Seconded.
Andy says
The Danforth SpinDoctor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKm5j-oxnA
gravenimage says
+1
J D S says
All I can add is…..pure STUPIDITY on the part of the Latinos..They and the prison environment are so misinformed…and whose fault is that???
Brian hoff says
People with than open mind about Islam read the Quan see only the peaceful parts of the Quan while people with close mind about Islam when they read the Quan see only the violence parts of the Quan.
gravenimage says
Is that so? Then why are so many converts to Islam waging violent Jihad?
Try again, “DefenderofIslam” (“Brian hoff’s” other username).
Jay says
Islam is initially attractive to people with low intellect , inbred especially, who can’t or don’t read or like to think for themselves.
StellaSaidSo says
Islam appeals mainly to the simple-minded and the violent. It was tailor-made for mugs and thugs.
Jay says
People with’ Open mind about Islam’ ….hahaha! I’d say people with an ” empty head where the brain should be ” like the Qur’an.
Islam and the Qur’an have ZERO redeeming features. not a single one. Ex-muslims unite! Freedom of thought is great…but you have to have a brain to appreciate what thought and reason are. Now go clip your toenails in the method Allah has instructed…or else your soul will burn for eternity.
J D S says
Jay. Surely by now you see that There is no peace in islam….
If you still need help then pre order Robert Spencer’s book JIHAD FROM MUHAMMAD TO ISIS. Or most any of his many books will help.
There is only one peaceful religion with the promise of an eternity with Jesus….Christianity…..Check out the New Testament and find anywhere Jesus teaches anything but peace…Of course Jesus expects yo PROTECT ourselves…Othereise ” he would not have said if one doesn’t have a sword sell his cloak and buy one”
jihad3tracker says
Latinos converting to Islam — away from their mega-generations of Christianity — is so counter to the normal tendency of people to remain in the faith of parents. A strategy by stealth juhadist is apparently behind the trend.
mortimer says
J3T, most Westerners today get ZERO percent religious teaching. They learn nothing in school and they never attend religious services except for weddings and funerals which increasingly are also non-religious.
Undertakers have encountered clients who have up to five generations without religious affiliation.
Such rootless persons may well be open to TRYING Islam.
There is no catechism or lengthy preparation or study needed to join Islam. It is basically a non-intellectual process.
jihad3tracker says
Good point at the end of your reply — just recite the Shahada sincerely and BINGO ! ! ! Another newly minted jihad-susceptible moron.
mortimer says
J3T, the recitation need not be ‘sincere’, since ‘faith will follow’.
I cannot now find the hadith that affirms that belief is not necessary to join Islam, but perhaps some other person can share the reference.
Hari Singh says
Muslims tell Hispanics that their ancestors were Muslims who converted out of fear and moved to the New World to avoid the Spanish Inquisition. That would be hard to explain then the ubiquitous city/village name in Mexico,”Matamoros” kill the Moors.
They don’t tell them of the murder of Christians, the rape and enslavement of Spaniards by Muslims for 800 years.No country other than perhaps India fought the Muslims so long.The Spanish consider the Reconquista [The Reconquest of Spain] the high point of their civilization.
Giacomo Latta says
As do I.
gravenimage says
This is true, Hari.
Mary says
Mohammed tells women that he has not seen any one more deficient in intelligence than women, I guess he didn’t have or use a mirror.
mortimer says
Mary, intelligence testing shows NO DIFFERENCE in the IQs of men versus women. So, we must ask: ‘IS THERE ANYTHING THAT MOHAMMED GOT RIGHT?”
Mary says
The word NO comes to mind.
Giacomo Latta says
Nor did he attend a co-ed school.
mortimer says
As Fitzgerald correctly points out, Western people are lured join Islam “based on a series of misrepresentations” of what Islam actually teaches.
The DAWA/TAQIYYA ARTISTS LEAVE OUT the list of all the things that are WRONG WITH ISLAM:
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims.
Muslims cannot defend anything on this list. A mullah in America who studied hundreds of conversions to Islam discovered that three quarters of all converts to Islam had dropped out before TWO YEARS were up.
It took these former converts that length of time to learn WHAT IS WRONG WITH ISLAM.
Wellington says
An exceedingly important list, mortimer. Would that most every non-Muslim know it as you do.
gravenimage says
Important list.
Indiana Tom says
Add
Sex with animals.
Sex with little boys.
Drinking Camel Urine
Hating and Killing Dogs
Lies about Judeo-Christianity
Denial of the Crucifixion ( well documented and a fact )
Hatred of Higher Education and Learning.
Brian hoff says
Islam in south asia and southeast aria allow some muise of than religious nature. About 2/3 of the muslim in the world today are from south and southeast asia. Islam spead by peaceful mean in south and southeast aroa.
StellaSaidSo says
No, Islam did not spread ‘by peaceful mean’ in south or south-east Asia. Or, indeed, anywhere else. Your ignorance of history is spectacular.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Fitzgerald,Latinos and Blacks in Americas are aware of such concocted lies by Christian evangelist liars of old against Islam debunked by Muslim experts. so, you and Mr spencer reproducing such lies will never have any impact. The truth about Islam has been manifested. As such you are just wasting your time,Islam will continue to spread all over the world, including Americas
Ecosse1314 says
Maybe Arseface you could provide evidence of these manifest truths about islham. Take your time
gravenimage says
I wouldn’t hold my breath…
mortimer says
Ibrahim, Seven out of Ten Converts Drop Out of Islam and most never practice. So, you lose, ha, ha.
https://imamluqman.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/seven-out-of-every-ten-converts-leave-islam-by-imam-luqman-ahmad/
Seven out of every ten converts, leave Islam, by Imam Luqman Ahmad
We are constantly being told that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States. We are also being told that the Muslim population is anywhere from 2 million, to six million and that a third of them are converts. That would put the number of converts from around 700,000 to 2,000,000. However, I’m not sure if those numbers are accurate because many converts are leaving Islam, and or never even begin to practice Islam in any appreciable way other than take their shahaadah (declaration of conversion), and you don’t see anywhere near those numbers reflected in the nation’s masaajid.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mortimer, it is false statistics, not supported by reality. mithraist christianity is dying because people are not satisfied with those pagan doctrines of Godman and begotten son of God. Hence, you embark on empty propagandas against Islam,it will not save pagan christianity. Fools!!
mortimer says
Ibrahim, Why would Imam Luqman tell a lie about this? He wouldn’t. So you lose. You did not prove Luqman is wrong. Your CLAIMS are ALL UNSUPPORTED. You lose, ha, ha.
https://imamluqman.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/seven-out-of-every-ten-converts-leave-islam-by-imam-luqman-ahmad/
Ibrahim, you are a gasbag.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer–Muslim clerics themselves affirm this.
Brian hoff says
i donot goes to the mosque very day as I live far away from the mosque an a long trip takeing between 3 or 4 buses. I do make it apoint to show up for firday noontime prayer. Where I live we have 4000 muslim and our mosque can hold only about 1000 muslim for firday prayer.
VRWC member77 says
Like Islam Ibrahin, cancer used to spread throughout the bodies of victims. But like Islam, much has been learned in recent years to mitigate and stop the spread of cancer. Soon one day most cancers will be curable or significantly mitigated. The same will happen with Islam because TRUTH and KNOWLEDGE always wins.
mortimer says
Islam’s misogyny appeals to HYPER-MACHO Latinos … for a while … until they mature.
Keys says
Yes, cultural machismo in some cases.
mortimer says
Ibrahim, I am glad you mentioned “CONCOCTED LIES” ! Such as those of misogynistic Mohammed:
The hadiths of Mohammed that insult and degrade all women … such concocted lies … IBRAHIM … read and weep :
– I think that women were created for nothing but evil.
– Women have ten ‘awrat (vulvas). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten (of her shameful parts).
– A straw mat in the corner of the house is preferable to a barren woman.
– Women are toys, so choose (your ‘toys’).
– The woman is a toy, whoever takes her, let him care for her [ or do not lose her ].
– Had it not been for women, God would have truly, truly been worshipped.
– Men perished the day they obeyed the women.
– Obedience to a woman’s advice causes regret.
– Consult women and act contrary (to it).
– Sneezing, drowsing, yawning in prayer, also menstruation, vomiting and nose-bleeding are from Satan.
– When…your affairs are in the hands of your women, the interior of the earth (hell) will be the better for you than its surface.
– If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back.
– Mohammed asked some women, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?” The women said, “Yes,” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.”
– I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women).
– I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women.
– Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse.
– After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.
– Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially.
– Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.
– Women, slaves and camels are same.
– Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman.
– If you relax the woman’s bridle a tiny bit, she will take you and bolt wildly. And if you lower her cheek-piece a hand span, she will pull you an arm’s length … Their deception is awesome and their wickedness is contagious; bad character and feeble mind are their predominant traits.
– “[A man’s wife] fears him, while he fears her not, a kind word from him satisfies her, where nothing of hers has importance in his eyes, it is she who must tolerate the presence of concubines, and it is she who worries when he is ill whereas even her death would leave him indifferent.
– If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.
– Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals [awan] with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from God and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of God, so understand and listen to my words…
– Muhammad’s last words on women during his farewell speech:
– God allows you to put them in separate rooms and to beat them but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control- of their persons. Sirat Rasul Allah. Translated in English by A. Guillaume. First published by Oxford University Press, London in 1955
So there you have Islam’s view of women: prisoners, animals, dogs, donkeys, deficient, a plaything, only half-human. It would be bad enough if these were the words of one of Islam’s spokesmen…but these are the words of the final ‘holy prophet’ himself…and they CANNOT BE REFORMED. Shocking, shameful …and humiliating to the intellect!
And Ibrahim … the mullahs cannot DEFEND or ‘EXPLAIN’ these to a modern audience … so, Ibrahim … you lose. Ha, ha.
Keys says
mortimer, you are on an inspired roll today overwhelming the deceitful lbrahim Itace Mohammad with “irrefutable facts” – burying him with his own jargon.
I’d bet he doesn’t even read your replies, but many who need to know read them.
mortimer says
Keys, he is reading them cannot deny the Islamic texts say the horrible things that they say.
He is going to lose his faith in this Death Cult/Mind Control Cult if stays at Jihad Watch.
This is how you deprogram Muslims. After searching the original texts for himself, Ibrahim will realize that fact-based criticisms of Islam are valid.
gravenimage says
Important list, Mortimer–thanks.
Just one thing–I’m afraid your idea that if Muslims like Ibrahim itace muhammed knew how vicious Islam is that they would leave is mistaken.
For instance, regarding Islam’s savagery towards women, Ibrahim itace muhammed himself has affirmed that Islam calls for FGM, child marriage, forced marriage, polygamy, wife beating, the “Triple Talaq” (summary divorce for men only), “Honor Killing”, rape, sex slavery, forced veiling, and stoning women to death.
He knows just how appalling Islam is in this regard–and he *likes it that way*.
In fact, he has said that women who act in a non-Islamic manner–by, for instance, marrying for love–must be killed.
ENRAGED says
You know your religion is done with when you can only convert prisoners, I was born and raised in Muslim country and worked among the most educated Muslims, by far most of them left Islam.
Islam is inherently evil ideology, choose a more benign religion or better no religion at all.
mortimer says
Yes, enraged, 35% of Muslims are apparently NON-PRACTICING MUSLIMS-IN-NAME-ONLY (MINOs).
MINOs declare they DO NOT WANT SHARIA LAW or a CALIPHATE… two things that the other 65% of Muslims want.
About 15% of Muslims attend services at the mosque. The same percentage declare support for Islamic terrorist organizations. About 250 MILLION Muslims worldwide support Islamic terrorist groups.
Brian hoff says
You are makeing up facts again. Firsr 250 million muslim donot support terrorism worldwide. Only about 250 000 muslim worldwide support terrorism at all. Indonesia have two muslim organizations that far out number the muslim brotherhood easy.
StellaSaidSo says
Indeed, any Muslim who pays zakat is supporting Islamic terrorism, given the amount of ‘charity’ $$ which finds its way to terrorist groups. And many who don’t actively support terrorism (eg the Ahmadiyya sect) nevertheless support its aims.
gravenimage says
Thank you, ENRAGED,
acts says
What is the “truth” of islam? Islam started the war against Christians 1400 years ago when that pedophile came into the scene and started to lie to people. We are destroying Muslims in debate after debate. Islam is just a religion that uses might over knowledge to exert itself. For you blacks and latinos, you see it as a movement of “resistance” against the white man because you see christianity as the religion of the white man.
Keys says
Ironically, Mohammad was a white man with black slaves according to several muslim “sacred” sources.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tZxH4QYLRQY
Buraq says
@ Ibrahim itace Mohamed
You say that these are ‘… concocted lies by Christian evangelist liars of old against Islam debunked by Muslim experts.’
Can you give us just one example of debunking, please. If you can’t, you’re a clown!
mortimer says
Ibrahim’s CLAIMS are stated as ‘facts’, whereas VALID EMPIRICAL FACTS are supported by solid INCONTROVERTIBLE EVIDENCE.
Islam has NO EVIDENCE with which it may be supported.
EXAMPLES:
1) Historical reports about Mohammed and his followers are not extant before 200 years AFTER the alleged death of Mohammed.
2) Archeology and coins show that Arab invaders supported other RELIGIONS … Christianity and Zoroastrianism in the territories they invaded. Buildings and coins displaying crosses and even iconography were created by the early caliphs. It is against later Islamic laws.
3) No early non-Muslims record the existence of ‘Islam’ or ‘Muslims’ or a holy book of the Arabs.
4) There are four DIFFERENT QIBLAS in mosques before 830AD. That’s two hundred years after the supposed canonization of the qibla!
5) Caliph Omar called himself ‘FAROOQ’ or ‘Redeemer’ (as in Redeemer of Israel from the Romans). Was Omar Jewish? Or was he appealing to Jews to make him their leader?
6) We are told that OFFICIAL Korans existed in the 7th century, but none of them or even pages of them HAVE NOT BEEN FOUND. Why are the ORIGINAL KORANS MISSING?
ISLAM CANNOT BE DEFENDED MORALLY: Islam is amoral and opportunistic and none of its teachings are coherent with other Islamic teachings. This means there is no consistent moral code in Islam. So Islam is NOT a moral system, but an AUTHORITARIAN system only.
ISLAM CANNOT BE DEFENDED LOGICALLY: Islam’s teachings are all contradicted by other Islamic teachings creating a chaos of nonsensical ‘explanations’ by the mullahs which are hard to follow and impossible to believe. A verse in the Koran tells Muslims NOT to ask difficult questions, since they may LOSE THEIR FAITH if they learn the answers.
Brian hoff says
Going by coinage doesnot prove or disprove anything. Many areas outside of the Rome Empire us roman coins and never interest in minting they own coinage.
Wellington says
“The truth about Islam has been manifested.”
Yes it has, Ibrahim, but not in the way you mean it.
mortimer says
Agree with Wellington. The ‘truth’ about Islam is that it is many cults-in-one!
-a death cult, a rape cult, an extortion cult, a plunder cult, a censorship cult, a misogyny cult, a lie cult, a pedophilia cult, a sadomasochistic cult, an obsessive-compulsive cult, a supremacism cult, a Jew hatred cult, a Christianophobia cult, a male chauvinist cult, an inbreeding cult, an obscurantism cult, a superstition cult, a personality cult, a cruelty to animals cult, a group-think cult, an honour-killing a suicide cult.
Wow! 21 cults in one! Where do we sign up? (sarc/off)
Raja says
Magnum opus of Mortimer the great!!!!!!!!!!!
gravenimage says
*Spot on*.
gravenimage says
Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed is never able to note a single thing they got wrong? Moreover, he himself regularly affirms the savagery of Islam.
Jay says
Islam is initially attractive to people with low intellect , inbred especially, who can’t or don’t read or like to think for themselves.
Pal says
!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says (from his facebook’s):
“Ibrahim Itace Muhammed: jihad watch is a forum for selling lies and falsehood against islam.it is being sponsored by evil jews to malign islam and muslims who expose jewish evil machinations.mad devil trump now agrees to serve jews as slave.he said evil israhell should continue constructing illegal jewish settlements on palestinian land in defiance of un resolutions.but his doggish obedience to jews will lead arrogant united states to total collapse within two years.wait and see,”
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008365110176
mortimer says
Thanks for this tip. And facebook doesn’t mind his anti-Semitic and genocidal comments one bit.
He seems to be calling for DEATH TO AMERICA as well. I guess facebook likes everyone who wants to destroy ISRAEL and the UNITED STATES.
gravenimage says
Yep–I’ve linked to Ibby’s Facebook page here many times.
And he regularly says that Muslims have “destroyed” the United States. Wishful thinking on his part…
Japetto Danatelli says
Masterful commentary, Mr. Fitzgerald. Nothing should avert conversion to islam more effectively than the facts about islam. The bigotry, slavery, racism, the antisemitism and murderous homophobia, the FGM and misogynistic practices, the suppression of free speech and individual liberty, the intolerance for and murder of apostates and “infidels”… none of these islamic traits deserve worship or love, they should be shunned by all decent people; or better still, eliminated as a curse on humankind.
Michael Copeland says
Hear hear, Japetto Danatelli.
Thank you, Mr. Fitzgerald, for this definitive and helpful article.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
You are welcome, Mr. Copeland.
gravenimage says
+1
No Muzzies Here says
Who will tell them? They are Catholic in name, but not in practice, but surely the Catholic Church can use some of its power to get the message to the faithful!
Surely not. The Catholic Church gave up its teaching mission long ago, and is now cuddly with the powers of this world, and, so as not to disturb this relationship, warm and friendly to Islam.
Indiana Tom says
More or less.
Let us not forget Liberation theology as well.
Michael Copeland says
A modest refinement:
A muslim husband is fully authorised to beat his wife if he FEAR that she may be disobedient.
No wifely disobedience is needed.
mortimer says
An important point from M. Copeland: in Islam the subjective SUSPICION of disobedience without any proof is enough to get a woman beaten.
A paranoid husband is given permission to beat his wife any time his PARANOIA flairs up.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Michael and Mortimer.
Indiana Tom says
A muslim husband is fully authorised to beat his wife if he FEAR that she may be disobedient.
No wifely disobedience is needed.
Ani Cyrus points this out in her videos.
FYI says
Do these Latino converts not understand?
allah CURSES Christians ..WHY?….for …believing in Jesus Christ [koran 9:30]
allah DENIES Christ [koran 4:157] “They slew him not nor crucified Him”
allah REJECTS GOD’S 2nd chief commandment:the root of islam’s problem.
“Take not the Jews and Christians for friends” [k5:51]
{allah neither knows nor subscribes to the 2 chief laws of God.Isn’t that odd?}
allah doesn’t know the source of God’s wisdom [k4:171] due to his inability to understand theology;allah rejects that aspect of God through which Biblical prophecy comes.That’s why islamic “prophecy” is completely wrong!
allah says you can violate God’s Commandments…{no you can’t!}
So choose “allah the deceiver” or the God {of Moses,of Jesus}
The Bible peaches OBEDIENCE to God’s Commandments and LOVE
the koran preaches DISOBEDIENCE to God’s Commandments and HATE
If you are not able to differentiate between “allah the deceiver” and God then you will have to experience the difference between being chaff and wheat!
By converting to islam you have PROVED that{2 thess 2} you do not love the truth enough to be saved.You have actually failed.
“Allah” is the deceiver k3:54:that is NOT the Biblical God.
If you are not smart enough to see the difference,if you cannot see the problem with allah the deceiver,an antisemitic,antiJewish,misgoynistic,theologically-challenged counterfeit god of islam…. then you deserve to be the chaff!!
gravenimage says
Hugh Fitzgerald: Latinos Converting to Islam (Part 2)
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All good points. Many converts to Islam know next to nothing about–and most Muslim Da’wa artists like it that way. They are especially apt to be ignorant of the death penalty for leaving Islam.
gravenimage says
about it
somehistory says
Jesus said this would be the case when He gave the Revelation to John.
People of every “tribe, ,people, tongue, and nation,” listening to the blasphemes against God and bowing to the wild beast. (Revelation 13:6-8)
Indiana Tom says
…11The Angel of the LORD proceeded: “Behold, you have conceived and will bear a son. And you shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard your cry of affliction. 12He will be a wild donkey of a man, and his hand will be against everyone, and everyone’s hand against him; he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.” 13 So Hagar gave this name to the LORD who had spoken to her:
Genesis 16:12
SSDD. Genesis to Revelation.
Raja says
Thank you, Tom, I somehow lost track of this verse which predicts the planet’s plague till the elements of earth melt away…
Indiana Tom says
I suppose if you are flirting with some sort of violent drug cartel, worshipping Santa Muerte, and practicing violent Liberation Theology, Islam is not that big of a step.
Lydia Church says
Taking stupid to a new low….
Ugh. And of course islam has NOTHING in common with God’s true religion; Christianity!
But if they falsely believe the faiths are so much the same, then why are they even converting?
Or if they do that, then why don’t they go after muslims to convert to Catholicism or Christianity, as one could ask the same question in the other direction. It works both ways.
Too many types of stupid rolled into one ball!
Mark says
Presumably they could also read first-hand accounts of Islam in Spain. Does anyone know if Spanish from that era is understandable by speakers of modern Spanish?