The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
Also, Sharia forbids not just the consumption of alcohol, but its sale as well. A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Verily Allah, the Exalted, has forbidden wine. So who hears this verse and he has anything of it with him, he should neither drink it nor sell it.” (Sahih Muslim 3835)
“Gay couple are flogged more than 80 times for having sex before a woman is caned for selling alcohol in Indonesia’s Sharia law province as crowd shouts ‘hit them harder,'” by Sara Malm, MailOnline, July 13, 2018 (thanks to Robert):
A gay couple have been publicly flogged in Indonesia’s Aceh province, after a local Islamic court found them ‘guilty’ of having had sexual intercourse.
The pair were whipped more than 80 times each in front of a 1,000-strong jeering crowd, after having been apprehended by a homophobic vigilante mob earlier this year.
They were among 15 people whipped outside a mosque in the fundamentalist Muslim province’s capital Banda Aceh on Friday, which also saw a young woman caned for selling alcohol.
Both the young woman and the gay couple were led up to a platform dressed in white, while a masked ‘executioner’ rained down lashes from a rattan cane on their backs.
The crowd, which included tourists from neighbouring Malaysia, snapped pictures and shouted ‘flog them harder’ as they were beaten.
The unidentified men were the second gay couple whipped in public this year in Aceh, underscoring the increasing discrimination faced by Indonesia’s small LGBT community.
The men had been apprehended by a vigilante mob at a Banda Aceh beauty salon earlier this year and handed over to police, authorities said.
The men were reportedly found guilty of homosexual intercourse after a court established that they were in a relationship.
Gay sex is not illegal elsewhere in Indonesia, but there has been a backlash against the community in recent years.
Aceh is the only region in Indonesia, the world’s most populous Muslim-majority country, that imposes Islamic law.
Public flogging is a common punishment for a range of offences including gambling, drinking alcohol, and having gay sex or relations outside of marriage.
‘Hopefully the flogging we’re witnessing today will serve as a lesson for people not to violate sharia (Islamic law),’ said Banda Aceh official Tarmizi Yahya.
Few in the crowd appeared to have much sympathy.
‘I don’t think they’re being serious about the flogging – it looks like they are just playing around,’ said Bukhari, a fisherman who came to watch with his wife.
‘The sharia officer should have flogged them as hard as he could.’…
abad says
I wonder how many gays in the western world support this sort of thing?
gravenimage says
None of them. Most Gay people in the West are pretty clueless about Islam.
mortimer says
Yes, GI, not only clueless, but angry in their support for Islam even though they know nothing about Sharia penalties for homosexuality.
What Sharia law says about punishing homosexuals: flogging, stoning, thrown from high place, wall pushed over to crush, burning to death.
Homosexuality is not only a sin, but a crime under Islamic law.
– Islam Question and Answer says: “The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah.”
– In the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is first punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, the death penalty is to be applied.
– In the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment as adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times. Hence, the Shafi`i compares the punishment applied in the case of homosexuality with that of adultery and fornication.
– In the Hanafi school, the two acts are differentiated, because anal sex [something that is prohibited, regardless of orientation] may also be involved, while in adultery [and fornication], the penis/vagina (which are reproductive parts) are involved.
– Some scholars hold the opinion that homosexuals should be thrown from a high building or stoned to death as a punishment for their crime, but other scholars maintain that they should be imprisoned until death occurs through starvation.
-Some of them (Islamic jurists) said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married.
-Another view is that between two males, the active partner is to be lashed a hundred times if he is unmarried, and killed if he is married; whereas the passive partner is to be killed regardless of his marital status.
-Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The highest point in the town should be found and the homosexual should be thrown head first from it, then stones should be thrown at him.
Ibn ‘Abbaas derived this hadd punishment from the punishment that Allaah sent upon the homosexuals of the people of Loot.
– It is narrated from Khaalid ibn al-Waleed that he found a man among one of the Arab tribes with whom men would have intercourse as with a woman. He wrote to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq consulted the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib had the strongest opinion of all of them, and he said: “No one did that but one of the nations, and you know what Allaah did to them. I think that he should be burned with fire.” So Abu Bakr wrote to Khaalid and he had him burned.
gravenimage says
Not all gay people are angrily defending Islam. Most I know are as clueless about Islam as their straight neighbors.
mortimer says
Look at how ‘MODERATE’ Islam has become in INDONESIA.
It looks as ‘MODERATE’ as Islam in Soddy Barbaria.
Not moderate at all, is it?
Just Islam… the CULT of CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENTS.
If Islam is so BACKWARD, VICIOUS and PRIMITIVE, WHY BE A MUSLIM?
Why not ABANDON ISLAM ALTOGETHER, IBRAHIM?
abu taleb says
There is no moderate muslims, there are only the dishonest muslims who pretend to be moderate and portray Islam as a peaceful religion and the less dishonest muslims (the so called “radicals”) who are killing the non muslims.
The “moderate” muslims are helping the “radical” muslims by fooling the ignorants so that the “radical” muslims can easily kill their victims.
J D S says
I may not agree with the lifestyle of gays and I may not agree that alcohol should be available…..but flogging and caneing, saying Muhammad called for it or maybe it was just those who say he called for it it….anyway….ACTUALLY BEING FLOGGED OR CANED IS,,,,,BEING BEATEN. ,One can disagree with anything but when disagreement becomes unwarranted punishment, especially in the “.supposedly” religion of peace…In reality the only religion of peace is Christianity..What did JESUS say to the crowd who were about to stone the woman who was caught in adultery? Let the one without sin cast the first stone……Satan is alive and at work in islam but not only in Islam!
Dean Cobb says
THE LGBT COMMUNITY REMAINS REMARKABLY QUIET ABOUT THESE INCIDENTS. COWARDS!!!
Charles says
Do not underrate gays as for awareness and intelligence: Their worst enemy, as they see it, is the teachings of the Lord Jesus. Islam’s demoniac war against Jesus will, they hope, serve them well.
gravenimage says
There are actually a lot of gay Christians. They don’t consider Jesus’ teachings to their enemy.
Sun says
Not long ago, Indonesia used to be a paradise for vacationers from all over the world.
With the spreading of Islam, humanity will move into dark times.
HugoHackenbush says
And the tourist dollars will move elsewhere.
harold says
I guess Indonesia is moderate because they are only lashing the gay men 80 times rather than following Islamic jurisprudence of executing them by throwing them down from a high place, stoning them, or both.
HugoHackenbush says
Yes, what they are doing is most UN-Islamic. Once the true followers of Islam learn of this there will be “repercussions”.
Gjallarhornet says
The ‘burden of colonialism’ just disappears when you read stories like this. When you see the brutality of the islamic world towards it’s own, you just *know* that colonial rule under the West, whatever it’s faults, was way, way, better and a bloody good idea compared to islam.
Carolyne says
Yes, I agree that under British rule, most presently barbarian countries were much better off. Muslims cannot control their animalistic culture and should be restrained.
Gjallarhornet says
Yes. It’s complicated of course, we are talking about a long time span and many countries. Still, overall, the colonial age was far better than muslim rule. Because what would be preferable – the Indonesian province Aceh under muslim rule? Or Aceh under Dutch rule? I think we all know the answer to that.
Virginia says
Amen to the tenth power
gravenimage says
Indonesia: Gay couple flogged over 80 times, woman caned for selling alcohol, crowd screams “Hit them harder”
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I guess they are “moderates” since they didn’t throw this Gay couple off the roof of a tall building…
john spielman says
yu!! just feel the LOVE in islam!
NO islam, know peace
know islam,no peace
richard hauf says
I live in Florida. What’s really scary is the massacre of gays at Pulse nightclub has been completely whitewashed a year later. The murderer was a Muslim, brought up in Sharia law, whose father admitted that his son was upset after observing two men being affectionate to each other a few weeks before the killings. The father is a well know foreign politician who advocates for Sharia law. The gay communities in Florida refuse to admit the Muslim connection. I was a supporter of Equality Florida, but have quit after being called Islamophobic. I have tried to point out to my gay friends that recent surveys in the two largest US Muslim communities, Minnesota, Michigan, show that almost 50% want Sharia laws. I have challenged my gay friends to travel to a Middle East country and walk around while wearing their rainbow gay pride shirts…and see what happens. The US gay communities had better wake up!
Indiana Tom says
The gay communities in Florida refuse to admit the Muslim connection.
Red-Green Axis.
mortimer says
What Sharia law says about punishing homosexuals: flogging, stoning, thrown from high place, wall pushed over to crush, burning to death.
Indiana Tom says
I have challenged my gay friends to travel to a Middle East country and walk around while wearing their rainbow gay pride shirts…
I am sure this would spread peace and understanding in the Uma.
Indiana Tom says
Crucify! Crucify!
Hogdude says
While I condemn the homosexual lifestyle, I feel they should not be stoned, but prayed for and counseled as to the sin of homosexuality. Leviticus 18:22. Jesus taught love, but He advocated against all sin which separated men from God. Judgment will be with God, not Man. Matthew 7:1-3.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Very good, Indonesia should sweep away bad smells of homosexuality brought by mithraist christians and evil Jews inspired by the satan In yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods. Indonesia is making progress for an ideal society taught by the sharia.
john spielman says
talk about projection
it is obvious that you are just parroting the muslim lie about Christianity being “Mithra type of religion!
do you even know what you are talking about? mithrasm was bull worship !
so no connection
BUT did you know that allah of islam is actually the ancient Arabic MOON god who had 3 daughters manat allat and uzza! its’ true! even muhammed your filthy reprobate pedophile false prophet admitted to that fact in the now redacted verse of the ORIGINAL version of the quran He also said that Satan put those words in his mouth so we can confidently state that muhammed as DEMON possessed mass murderer robber liar serial sexual predator a necrophiliac – having had sex with his DEAD AUNT!, and pedophile pervert FALSE prophet!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Wow! More bronze-age barbarity from the religion of peace-‘n’-tolerance.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed believes gays and those drinking alcohol should be flogged or worse–but he considers raping women and little children, keeping slaves and sex slaves, and mass slaughtering people to be completely praiseworthy.
Muslim “morality”. *Ugh*.
Carolyne says
Mohammed himself was bi- sexual. I don’t know if he smelled bad, but he probably did.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
No, Carolyne, it is the satan god mithraist christians Call Holy Spirit who is homosexual smearing his horrible bad smells on mithraist christians and you who call herself atheist. That is why all of you produce disgusting bad smells disturbing us even when you are 100 meters away from us
gravenimage says
Of course, Westerners have far better hygiene over all than do Muslims.
Ibrahim itace muhammed has also said such bizarre things as apostates from Islam suddenly regrowing their foreskins which are then instantly infested with maggots.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John spelieman, You are just an ignorant fool. Read sura Annajm where allah dismissed the idiocy of ascribing female-deities of Lat, Uzza and manat idols as daughters of Allah by pagan Arabs as product of their conjectures and guesswork. How can such idiocy be associated to Islam? A fool!!
6woods says
Hey ibby-the-islamic-idiot, there was never any allah, except in muhammad’s diseased mind, so how could he/it have ‘dismissed’ anything? A fool!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
6wood, that is your own idiocy from atheism. Both Christians and Jews in Arabia before Islam referred to the supreme creator of all as “Allah “.when Prophet Muhammad was sent , they differed with him as to whether Allah has a son, according to christians , and whether Allah sent Prophet Muhammad, according to Jews.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
6wood, that is your own idiocy from atheism. Both Christians and Jews in Arabia before Islam referred to the supreme creator of all as “Allah “.when Prophet Muhammad was sent , they differed with him as to whether Allah has a son, according to christians , and whether Allah sent Prophet Muhammad, according to Jews.
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I’ve dealt with this claptrap before, but Ibrahim itace muhammed continues to spam it here.
Yes, Arabic-speaking Christians did refer to God as “Allah”–but that had *nothing* to do with the savage, loveless deity of Islam.
It is the same today, where Christians in the Levant, Middle East, North Africa, and Malaysia refer to the supreme being as “Allah”–but do not worship the savage Islamic Allah.
Muslims know this, in fact, and have tried to prevent Christians from calling God “Allah”:
“Malaysia’s top court: Non-Muslims cannot refer to God as ‘Allah’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/06/malaysias-top-court-non-muslims-cannot-refer-to-god-as-allah
And Jews *never* used “Allah” for God, since even where they are fluent Arabic speakers they worship in Hebrew.
And no–Jews *never* accepted the vicious warlord Muhammed as a prophet. This is why Muslims hate them so much.
john spielman says
hahaha! oh ibbey; you have NO idea who foolish you are to try and defend the indefensible death cult of that old reprobate ” kiddie diddler” muhammed! I fear NOTHING will persuade you of the truth about your ideology of islam -( I cannot bring myself to call it a ” religion’ when clearly it is the rantings of a demon possessed mass murderer robber/thief LIAR and serial sexual predator and deviant and pedophile!
but you are lost eternally if you continue on the road that islam is leading you! yes it is hell itself – just read your own future in the hadith of sahih Bukhari ( faithful Bukhari ) vol 1 book 12 number 770!
that hadith says very plainly that every muslim will awaken, after death , in the fires of hell and there to be tormented in the flames until ” only the signs of their prostrations remain as recognizable’ Then comes the Judgement Day of the Lord !
now muslims can only hope that God will some how allow them into His eternal city – but this hope is in VAIN just as Jesus Him,self states in Luke 16:19-30
There will be no trial; no good deeds vs sin weigh off for God knows the end from the beginning and he has already passed judgement on us when we die!! All the wicked dead – those whose sins have NOT be paid by the sin atoning sacrifice of JESUS on the cross are sent to this prehell holding area upon death – where muhammed and all muslims will be after death ! all the righteous dead (those sins have been forgiven and the sin penalty paid by Christ) are in heaven with Jesus at death
john spielman says
ps also read the hadith in sahih mulsim book 001 number 0271! then compare it to Revelation chapter 19 for islam is DOOMED! ( as are all muslims as I have pointed out in the above hadith) – sahih muslim states that in the end – islam will be desroyed / rejected( becomes a ” strange thing” and all remnant muslims will be forced to flee in the desert between mecca an medina ” like a SNAKE CRAWLS BACK INTO ITS HOLE!
Revelation chapter 19 shows that King Jesus who is King of kings and Lord of Lords-God incarnate, will appear in the clouds with all the armies of heaven following and destroy all of you who have opposed His return as King of Kings and Lord of lords -read Luke 19 as well to affirm what I say!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John spielman, that automatic salvation in mithraist bible is a lie inspired by the satan for mithraist christians to commit all evils.All of you mithraist christians and your satan god will definitely be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever. Fools!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John spielman, all of you mithraist christians will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever together with your satan god in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods who deceived you that you have automatic salvation, which Jesus never taught. Fools!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John spielman, that automatic salvation inserted in the mithraist Bible is a lie inspired by the satan In yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods. All mithraist christians will go to hell together with Satan who deceives them to believe in such rubbish. Fools!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
John spielman, that assurance of automatic salvation inserted in the mithraist Bible is a lie inspired by the satan you call Holy Spirit. All of you mithraist christians will go to hell together with Satan who deceives you to believe in such rubbish. Fools!!
john spielman says
oh ibbey: just stop with the mithrist references – it is BULL SH*T, as mithra was the bull god of the Romans
the fact is that you are lost eternally because your sins cannot be countered by ” good ”
deeds ( what ever they are ! )
consider that you rob a bank only one day on your life but the other days of your entire life you obeyed the law! You are arrested and brought to trial in a real courtroom! If you tried to argue that your good deed far out weigh the violating of the law only one day, and there fore should be exonerated and set free, and you will be laughed out of court, to be thrown into prison to serve your sentence! to serve your penalty
gravenimage says
You can always tell when Ibrahim itace muhammed is particularly enraged–he just starts wildly spamming.
A mention of a loving God always has that sort of effect on him…
TWG says
Homosexuals in the U.S.A. (and elsewhere) are so clueless about islam’s tenets with regard to them and their lifestyle. I have an idea…….
The islammunists, which include the homosexual alphabet (LGBXYZQTISEGVM?) militants, pay such close attention to twitter and hashtags today. When POTUS Trump posts anything they find irritating, they act like a nest of hornets when a stick is poked at it. The entire world is watching what POTUS Trump is doing with regard to trade negotiations.
I think he ought to post something about trade with Indonesia (or any other islamic country), using all their favorite hashtags, saying that the United States will limit or end completely trade agreements with nations that have “homophobic” and/or “misogynistic” “sexist” laws such as flogging, stoning and execution.
That certainly would be a good way to bring attention to islam’s tenets regarding women and homosexuals. Even the media would have a hard time arguing that it’s a “misinterpretation” of the quran when so many islamic countries enforce or otherwise believe in and abide by such rules. There are an awful lot of “well educated” homosexuals in the world who might actually take it upon themselves to do their own homework on the issue if a big enough stink were raised on twitter.
The media jesters would have to report it, which would cause an uproar of monumental proportion. What would put the icing on this particular cake would be if a few scholars, such as Mr. Spencer, were called upon for televised interviews in order to provide context and examples.
I think this would be a very effective method of getting the homosexuals to inform themselves on this issue. It would also send a strong message that POTUS Trump supports and defends Human and Civil Rights for ALL, including homosexuals. Armed with the facts, homosexuals might actually start seeing the dim party for what they ARE……. ISLAMMUNISTS who support, defend and promote the punishment and murder of homosexuals and women in islam.
It would blow the roof right off their diabolical schemes!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Ah, the religion of peace-‘n’-tolerance.
The crusader says
Well the liberal media would never report this.
The crusader says
The liberal media would never report this.
elee says
Like that Muslim s@#t? Get the hell out of my country and go live there.