No one should be surprised that the “moderate” Dalil Boubakeur is resorting to the tired “out of context” defense in support of the imam Mohammed Tatai, who repeated the notorious genocidal hadith: “Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.” (Sahih Muslim 6985)
After all, it is a canonical hadith. It would be more surprising if Boubakeur repudiated it. The ignorance of Western authorities regarding Islamic texts and teachings, and their false assumptions about what they contain, is leading the West to disaster.
An update on this story. “French watchdog accuses Muslim leader of inciting hatred of Jews,” JTA, July 6, 2018 (thanks to Lucy):
A prominent watchdog group on anti-Semitism in France filed a police complaint against a leading Muslim community leader for alleged incitement to hatred of Jews.
The National Bureau for Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism, or BNVCA, filed the complaint Thursday against Dalil Boubakeur, rector of the Great Mosque of Paris and the president of the French Council of the Muslim Faith, BNVCA said in a statement.
The unusual move against Boubakeur, a highly respected representative of French Muslims, follows his defense Monday of an imam from Toulouse who was filmed speaking during a sermon about Israel’s demise and a war in which Muslims would kill Jews.
The imam, Mohammed Tatai, “protests firmly and in good faith” the controversy that last month grew around the video of his sermon from December, Boubakeur wrote in a statement Monday. Tatai also “apologizes to anyone who was accidentally offended by the pulling out of context” of the sermon, Boubakeur added.
B’nai B’rith France condemned the sermon in a statement on June 27, drawing the attention of media to the video’s existence.
In the video, which Tatai’s own mosque posted on YouTube, he says, “The Prophet Muhammad told us about the final and decisive battle: ‘Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Jews will hide behind the stones and the trees, and the stones and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him – except for the Gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.’” BNVCA also complained to police against the imam.
In an interview for the La Dépêche du Midi daily, Tatai said the video “takes what I said out of context.” He told the daily that during the sermon, he also said that “we must do everything not to arrive” at a Muslim-Jewish war, but the assertion was not recorded in the video.
Boubakeur said Tatai “engages in efforts that promote coexistence” between followers of different faiths….
No Muzzies Here says
The context is hatred for Jews.
mortimer says
Monsieur Boubakeur, here is the ‘context’ of Koranic Jew hatred you require:
Summary of Jew Hatred Found in the Koran
The Koran depicts the Jews as inveterately evil and bent on destroying the well-being of the Muslims. The Koran says: Jews are the strongest of all people in enmity toward the Muslims (5:82); they fabricate things and falsely ascribe them to Allah (2:79; 3:75, 3:181); they claim that Allah’s power is limited (5:64); they love to listen to lies (5:41); they disobey Allah and never observe his commands (5:13). They are disputing and quarreling (2:247); hiding the truth and misleading people (3:78); staging rebellion against the prophets and rejecting their guidance (2:55); being hypocritical (2:14, 2:44); giving preference to their own interests over the teachings of Muhammad (2:87); wishing evil for people and trying to mislead them (2:109); feeling pain when others are happy or fortunate (3:120); being arrogant about their being Allah’s beloved people (5:18); devouring people’s wealth by subterfuge (4:161); slandering the true religion and being cursed by Allah (4:46); killing the prophets (2:61); being merciless and heartless (2:74); never keeping their promises or fulfilling their words (2:100); being unrestrained in committing sins (5:79); being cowardly (59:13-14); being miserly (4:53); being transformed into apes and pigs for breaking the Sabbath (2:63-65; 5:59-60; 7:166); and more. Jews are under Allah’s curse (9:30), and Muslims should wage war against Jews and subjugate them under Islamic hegemony (9:29).
mortimer says
Statistical Jew Hatred in Koran and Hadiths
– The grand total of Jew Hatred in KORAN = 10,242 words / 152,006 total words = 6.7% Jew hatred
– Total number of Jew Hatred VERSES in Koran: 123 verses Jew hatred
– 17% of Medinan Koran is Jew hatred
– 1% of Meccan Koran is Jew hatred
– 8.9% of hadiths are Jew hatred
– 12% of Sira is Jew hatred
– 9.3% of Islamic Trilogy is Jew hatred
– 7% of Mein Kampf is Jew hatred by comparison
– Koran of Mecca filled with Jewish stories plagiarized and distorted.
– Jews of Medina did not validate Mohammed’s prophecy, so he then exterminated the Jews, stole their property and enslaved their women and children.
-Mohammed entered Medina with his people as refugees, but within a few years there were no Jews left in Medina.
– Mohammed provides the example that Muslims must follow
BC says
The point that he glosses over is that the Muslim listeners do not see the words as out of context they believe them to be literal and true and act upon them. It is in the quran and all the quran is true for them.
J D S says
This stupid imam don’t even know that in the last day Jesus will be leading that huge army and probably fighting the Muslims..unless they have repented…and they will ALL recognize Jesus as Lord..Every knee will bend. Christian or not.
Kay says
“The trust of the innocent is the liar’s most useful tool.” — Stephen King
Cicero says
We see this truism re nacted all around us on a daily basis wherever there are Muslims in Non Muslim societies
mortimer says
Agreeing with Cicero : the abuse of trust by Muslim taqiyya artists is a daily occurrence.
Indeed, former sheikh Sam Solomon confirmed this professional, sacralized deceit: …. “taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…”
THE WORD ‘TAQIYYA’ MUST BECOME KNOWN TO THE MAJORITY OF WESTERN PEOPLE or we cannot be aware of it whenever Muslims use ‘TAQIYYA’.
Muslims will stop using ‘TAQIYYA’ only when they realize they will be caught 99 times out of 100.
Jaladhi says
“Taken out of context” is such a ridiculous excuse that Muslims always use to whitewash their murderous actions and calls!! The West still falls for Islamic out of context excuse!!
PRCS says
Well, the notion that the entire West buys into that is a bit too expansive IMO.
Westman says
What nonsense..
How could this possibly be “out of context”? Did Tatai interpret the hadith to mean killing Jews without predjudice as opposed to with prejudice – that Allah will force unwlling Muslims to commit these acts?
“Boubakeur said Tatai ‘engages in efforts that promote coexistence’ between followers of different faiths….” With that kind of “coexistence promotion”, more Jews will be leaving France. Maybe that was the intended “context”.
Norger says
Utterly shameless nonsense at that.
omar says
Spencer ‘s Deception
Islam recognized the religion of mercy and peace as described as liquid. Therefore, Islam recognized the Jews and Christians to remain in the lands of Islam and did not abandon them nor did they kill them as they did and did when they managed from the Muslim countries, according to a treaty between them and the Islamic state on each side rights and duties, They abide by those conditions and enjoy this safe residenceTherefore, the Islamic Shari’a came as a protection for the people of dhimma in the Muslim countries and defending their rights if they adhered to the conditions of residence. He said: “Whoever kills a mujahideen does not rejoice in the smell of Paradise.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3166).
“Narrated by Abu Dawood (3052) and classed as hadan by Ibn Hajar in the hadith of al-Khubar (may Allaah be pleased with him) 2/184) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
f they betrayed or betrayed or prepared to fight us or help our enemies … and so on – they are contrary to the covenant, and then there is no covenant between us and them, and do not deserve that safe residence that they did not keep.
Second :
Yes; Muslims accepted the existence of the Jews and improved them as long as they were committed to the conditions of their residence, but Jews are Jews! It is sufficient to know that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) emigrated to the city, he had three sects for the Jews. They were the sons of Qinqaa, the sons of Nadeer and the sons of Qureizah.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought them. Some of them were killed and some of them were expelled from the city and prevented from living there.
Third :
Al-Bukhaari (3593) and Muslim (2921) narrated from the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
In Saheeh Muslim (2922) from the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Muslims do not fight until the Muslims fight, so the Muslims will kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and trees. A Jew behind me, so go and kill him, except the grove, it is from the trees of the Jews).
In some accounts, there is evidence that the fighting of the Jews mentioned in this hadeeth will take place at the end of time when the Dajjaal comes out and Jesus Christ the son of Mary (peace be upon him) descends and kills him.
Narrated by ‘Abd-Allaah ibn’ Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The dajjal comes down in this marsh with a channel [wadi in the city], so it is more than the women go out to him, so that the man will return to his intimate and his mother, And then they will kill him and kill his Shiites, so that the Jew to hide under the tree or stone Fijq Well stone or tree Muslim: This is a Jew undertow kill him) narrated by Imam Ahmad in “the predicate” (9/255), but because of the weakness attributed Ananh Muhammad ibn Ishaq, and has other evidence to consider achieving the predicate of the message edition Foundation.
These hadiths were narrated by al-Hafiz Ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Fath al-Baari (6/610). The hadeeth was narrated by Samra bin Jundab (may Allaah be pleased with him). He said: “It is meant to fight the Jews.
Ibn al-Malqun said: “It is meant by saying (fighting the Jews) if Jesus came down, the Muslims with him, and the Jews with the Dajjaal.” End quote from “Clarification to explain the true mosque” (17/663).
This is what was narrated by a group of narrators of the hadeeth. Rather, Imam al-Tirmidhi (2236) quoted the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn’ Umar in the section on the sign of the Dajjaal.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him)
“The Jews are waiting for the Antichrist, who is the one who is followed by the Jews, and comes out with him seventy thousand Mtils of the Jews, and the Muslims kill them with him, until the trees and the stone say: O Muslim, this Jew behind me come and kill him.” End quote. 2/30)
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him)
“The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to kill him, along with the Muslims, and kill him with the door of Lod, a door there in Palestine, near Jerusalem, killing him with his war as stated in the correct hadeeth, and the Muslims with him killing the Jews as great killers. The Jews, and kill them, and give them, calling the trees and stone: O Muslim, O Abdullah, this Jew come and kill him, and kill Jesus Dajjal and ends his order.
End quote from Fataawa Noor on the Path to Ibn Baaz with Al-Shuaieer (4/290).
And if the Dajjal came out followed by tens of thousands of Jews and met with him want to fight the Muslims, Jesus Christ descends the son of Mary peace be upon him and meet with Muslims to fight the Dajjaal and his followers, Jesus calls the son of Mary Jews to Islam, and accept them at that time only Islam, Including those who remain on his Judaism, so that the battle mentioned by the Prophet peace be upon him.
Thus, it is clear that the battle on the part of the Muslims is a legitimate and just battle that Allaah loves without doubt.
It is against the Antichrist and his supporters who gathered to fight the Muslims: (They want to extinguish the light of God with their mouths and God refuses to be enlightened even if the disbelievers) Row / 32.
– and because it is a battle fought by Muslims under the leadership of Jesus son of Mary peace be upon him one of the honored apostles.
– That God honors Muslims in this battle with this dignity and the pronunciation of stone and trees and his calls on the Muslim to kill the Jew who is hiding behind him.
All of this indicates that it is a just battle that Allah loves, as is the case in all Islamic battles, the purpose of which is to uphold the word of Allah in the earth: “Whoever fights to be the word of God is the supreme one, for the sake of Allah.” Narrated by Muslim (1915).
This is the whole story
Of course Spencer did not say
That battle
For Jews who go with the Antichrist
Eur says
What kind of shit do you get into your brain to consider all these barbarities as theology? The conquests made by the prophet, the pacts of submission, swords, enemies of God … it seems that we have awakened and suddenly live in the seventh century. Please Muslims, stop this is religious madness, it is enough.We live in the 21st century
omar says
Why intolerance?
Spencer controlled your minds
I know everything
Like what I said before
You will never believe the evidence and believe Spencer
If you have no answer, do not speak
am a very religious Muslim
I strongly fight terrorism
For I opened my mind and saw evidence
But you do not know it
I do not have a beard
Do not carry a weapon
Eur says
Spencer controls my mind? I tend to be quite critical of many articles published here, I even get insults when I criticize the policies of Donald Trump or Israel. What I can not stand are the fascist attitudes of anyone, not the Zionists, the imperialists or the Muslims. And I say Muslims because I have talked to many and I always end up with the same feeling … they control you from the mosques, you are all theocratic, you are obsessed with your religion and you do not see any further, you do not see a different way of life. Proud to be Muslim? I do not know anyone who says he is proud of being a Christian or proud of being an agnostic … he is simply a Christian or an agnostic. Are you proud to try to follow the example of a seventh century Arab warlord? You have a big problem, you should go to the psychologist.
mortimer says
Omar, argue against the mullahs who preach the anti-Semitic sermons … they know more about Islam than you do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvmKNtffobE
Eur says
You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud that my country welcomes every year hundreds of Moroccans who have to flee their country simply because they are homosexuals.
You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud that the cities of my country and neighboring countries celebrate gay pride today as a party and that millions of people go out to share that joy with them.
You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud that there are laws in my country that allow gay marriage and that they can even adopt children . You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud that in my country there is freedom of conscience and that a citizen can profess any religion, that the law protects everyone equally. You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud of having achieved that in my country the priests stop rulling politically. You are proud of being a Muslim, I am proud that if I want I can go to a nudist beach, that my girlfriend sunbathes in topless freely in a y beach of the country. You are proud to be a Muslim. I am proud to live in a society where women are increasingly free, where there is increasingly more feminism and less consent towards the macho attitudes of patriarchal societies. . You are proud to be a Muslim, I am proud to be able to make my own craft beer and compare it with the one made by my friends, you probably insulted your friends and if it was ramadan time you would denounce them. You are a religious fascist for the simple fact of being Muslim, you are an intolerant, a misogen and a self-conscious.
omar says
Haha
Dear, you are conversing with Muslims
But you did not talk to the origin of Islam and the whole of Islam
I can discuss with you and promise you if I win or not convinced I will convert to Christianity
Who told you that the mosque controls my mind?
I study Christianity better than you and Islam
Spencer is lying all the time
sszorin says
You are at least 50% right – the Jews do work for Satan. The Apocalypse [2:9 and 3:9] describes the Jews as The Synagogue of Satan. Compared to Judaism Islam is a religion of peace.
Today’s “Jews” are not the same people and the same believers as the Jews of biblical times – because the decisive religious texts of today’s “Judaism’ are not “the book” of God but the books which were written by rabbis. Their collected volume is called Talmud. It is an evil and filthy book.
Islam is God’s answer to the Jews and their Talmud. Koran is God’s diversion to keep Jews preoccupied with muslims so that the work of Jesus Christ is protected enough.
The Jews can not manage to assault and destroy two ‘enemies’ at the same time.
If not for Islam the Church which Christ founded might have been destroyed by the Jews.
omar says
Just a small conversation and I am convinced that you will convert to Islam
balam says
@ Omer: Only a LUNATIC would believe that a TREE or a STONE could shout about a JEW hiding behind it. INSANITY-THY NAME IS ISLAM.
balam says
@ Omer: BE OFF SATAN. You follow the ANGEL which fell from HEAVEN.
JoeFelon says
Your weapon is the barbaric “religion” created by a murdering, war criminal pedophile who was rejected as a prophet by the Jews and Christians. But I guess it’s OK as long as they are obedient kuffirs and pay their taxes while their daughters are raped by animalistic muslims stuck in the dark ages. Is it any coincidence any arab progress ceased after the acceptance of that disgusting “religion”? I think not. Alas, do not dispare, for there are many western liberals foolish enough to believe your lies and support your disgusting faith. And only.a.fool wounder accept talking trees and a pedophile for a prophet and covert, you arrogant fuck…
gravenimage says
The repellent omar wrote:
Haha
Dear, you are conversing with Muslims
But you did not talk to the origin of Islam and the whole of Islam
I can discuss with you and promise you if I win or not convinced I will convert to Christianity
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The witless omar has said this before. He cannot conceive of an equal exchange–as he sees it, when two people converse, one has to crush the other and make him submit.
But Christians and other civilized Infidels do not, of course, think this way–only savage Muslims do.
More:
Who told you that the mosque controls my mind?
I study Christianity better than you and Islam
Spencer is lying all the time
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Notice that omar has not been able to cite anything that Robert Spencer has supposedly gotten wrong–nor has he said anything accurate about Christianity.
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Just a small conversation and I am convinced that you will convert to Islam
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Would that “conversation” involve his holding a sword to our loved one’s throats? Likely so…
Charlie in NY says
Simply put – according to your own statements- the concept of “equal rights” and “equality before the law” do not exist in Islam. Instead, so long as Jews and Christians stay in their place, then they can live peacefully. Of course, whether they do so is left entirely up to the discretion of any Muslim who for his own reasons might claim otherwise. An obvious example is the faked but no less lethal charges of blasphemy against Christians in Pakistan.
As far as those in the West are concerned, there is NO context where such a Hadith remains appropriate, whether in some chiluadtic or current context. Whether entering the 21st century creates theological issues for Islam is for Muslims to address. Non-Muslims can only look on.
gravenimage says
+1
William L McKenzie says
Omar,
I’ll assume for the moment that you are not just cutting and pasting and have actually studied the prophecies of Mohammad. I have some comments to share. I will also provide a “Judeo-Christian”, (for lack of a better term), perspective. For sake of brevity, I will not provide all the specific references, (I will use a few), at this time but will provide them upon request.
As Islam teaches, the Jews and Christians are mostly in agreement with one another, especially in regards to the prophecies regarding the war before the end of this age. The primary disagreement relates to the identity of the Messiah. Keep in mind that Christianity itself started as a Jewish movement, as Jesus and all His Apostles were Jews. Likewise the New Testament was written by Jews. Christians are 100% in agreement with the Old Testament prophecies.
The theme of Biblical prophecy going all the way back to Moses, foretells that the Jews would be successful in establishing themselves in the “promised land”, (Israel). It foretold that a day would come when the Jews would be cast out of the land and scattered into every nation on Earth.(which the Jews call the Diaspora), Lastly, it foretells that before the end of this age, the Jews would be gathered back into the land. Many Christians see these prophecies of the birth, death and resurrection of the nation of Israel as an allegory of Christ.
Jesus summed up Moses and the prophets when He said of thew Jews:
“They shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled” – Luke 21:24
Isaac Newton, one of the greatest minds of this age was also a Bible scholar, put it this way:
“That foretelling the return of the Children of Israel to the land of promise… a prophecy repeated and re-repeated over and over again… is one of the most definite and unmistakable predictions in the sacred record… since the commandment to return precedes the Messiah… it may perhaps come forth not from the Jews themselves, but from some other kingdom friendly to them, and precede their return from captivity and give occasion to it… The manner I know not. Let time be the interpreter”
I personally like to believe that the “other kingdom friendly to them” is none other than the USA.
The prophets of the Bible made it very clear that this “resurrected Israel” would be surrounded by enemies seeking to destroy her. That the nations, (save one major player), of the world would be against her. We are seeing this played out over and over again in the UN Security Council, the USA is time and time again the only nation willing to defend Israel’s right to exist).
God made a promise the Jews “I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you”. It is interesting to note that President Obama empowered Israels arch enemy, Iran, and stabbed Israel in the back in the Security Council as one of his last acts as President. Now his legacy is destroyed, the US has rejected the treaty he worked so hard to establish, and the USA has moved its embassy to Jerusalem. 250 prominent Jewish Rabbis in Israel have given our President Trump a special blessing, and a coin has been minted with both his face and the face of King Cyrus, (an “unbeliever” whom God used to similarly helped the Jews).
The prophecies go on to say that that a great false-prophet would arise creating a counterfeit religion, deceive a large part of the world, teach his followers to kill the Jews and Christians in the last days, draw the powers of the earth into the conflict, teach about the coming of a “fake Messiah” (the Mahdi) that would come destroy Christianity, attack Jerusalem, and teach his followers would have marks on their foreheads and hands. Mohammed fulfilled this.
To sum things up, events are unfolding just as the Bible and ONLY the Bible foretold. Mohammad did indeed create a counterfeit religion which contains the antithesis to Biblical prophecy. Muslims often refer to Deuteronomy chapter 18 and claim it is a reference, not to Jesus, but to Mohammad. They overlook the last few verses which state:
“But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death. You may say to yourselves, ‘How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?’ If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.” Deuteronomy 18:20-22
Perhaps the most famous of Mohammad’s prophecies, which is repeated over and over again in “Sahih” hadith, was that Jesus would return and slay the Dajjal, in a short time, and coincide with the conquest of Constantinople. The fall did not happen in a “short time”. For 700 years the Muslims laid siege after siege to the city with the hopes of bringing about the “last day” – but when the city finally fell, none of Mohammad’s prophecies came true. Christianity has a similar example of a false prophet in its own history which led to the “Great Disappointment”
Mohammad’s most famous prophecy failed.
Let us also consider the character of Mohammad. He was a warlord and a self proclaimed pedophile. He even criticized his companion, Jabir, for marrying a full grown woman, and suggested instead that molesting little virgin girls was more fun, As we know, the only virgin that he married as 6 years old and he did not “consummate” the marriage until she was 9. That means he enjoyed molesting his “little virgin” for three years:
SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 17: Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah: When I got married, Allah’s Apostle said to me, “What type of lady have you married?” I replied, “I have married a matron’ He said, “Why, don’t you have a liking for the virgins and for fondling them?” Jabir also said: Allah’s Apostle said, “Why didn’t you marry a young girl so that you might play with her and she with you?’
Do you really believe that this is the kind of man that a “good” god would provide as the “perfect example” for all Muslims for all time to emulate? Not only was Mohammad clearly a false prophet, but he was also a man of the most wicked and vile character imaginable.Consider how many little children down through the centuries have been sexually molested and abused with the blessing of a so-called “god” because of this despicable man. Your own God given conscience and common sense should tell you that Islam is the religion of Satan, that Mohammad was indeed the great false prophet that was foretold.
Mohammad is the “odd man out” – he rejected the books of all the prophets that came before him and he stands alone, apart from them, and in direct opposition. Islam seeks to turn man away from the only true means of salvation, the Lamb of God.
Lastly, according to the Bible, it is the enemies of Israel and of Christianity that God Himself will defeat at the end of this age. Neither Judaism or Christianity teach that the final defeat of evil comes about by human means or by human conquest, (as Mohammad taught), rather that it comes about by the direct intervention of God.
As a Christian, it is my duty to share the Gospel, that salvation is a free gift available to all and to live peacefully and let God be the Judge. I urge you to reject Islam. In closing I will again refer to the words of Moses:
“This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live” Deuteronomy 30:19
When you stand before God, you will not be able to say, “no one ever told me, I did not know”
gravenimage says
The appalling omar wrote:
Spencer ‘s Deception
Islam recognized the religion of mercy and peace as described as liquid.
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What could be more merciful and peaceful than the genocide of the Jews?
More:
Therefore, Islam recognized the Jews and Christians to remain in the lands of Islam and did not abandon them nor did they kill them as they did and did when they managed from the Muslim countries, according to a treaty between them and the Islamic state on each side rights and duties, They abide by those conditions and enjoy this safe residenceTherefore, the Islamic Shari’a came as a protection for the people of dhimma in the Muslim countries and defending their rights if they adhered to the conditions of residence. He said: “Whoever kills a mujahideen does not rejoice in the smell of Paradise.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3166).
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What omar is referring to here is the horror of dhimmitude–of letting Jews and Christians live as humiliated second-class citizens as long as Muslims decide that “merely” exploiting them is politic.
Here is the awful Pact of Umar, which shows the conditions they were forced to live under:
https://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/source/pact-umar.asp
More:
“Narrated by Abu Dawood (3052) and classed as hadan by Ibn Hajar in the hadith of al-Khubar (may Allaah be pleased with him) 2/184) and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood.
f they betrayed or betrayed or prepared to fight us or help our enemies … and so on – they are contrary to the covenant, and then there is no covenant between us and them, and do not deserve that safe residence that they did not keep.
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In other words, Muslims can decide at any point that the dhimmis are not adhering to the oppressive pact, and can slaughter them all. This has happened many times in bloody Islamic history.
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Second :
Yes; Muslims accepted the existence of the Jews and improved them as long as they were committed to the conditions of their residence, but Jews are Jews! It is sufficient to know that when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) emigrated to the city, he had three sects for the Jews. They were the sons of Qinqaa, the sons of Nadeer and the sons of Qureizah.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) fought them. Some of them were killed and some of them were expelled from the city and prevented from living there.
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“Jews are Jews”–yes, they are always fair game for slaughter. This is what we see in the Jihad against Israel.
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Third :
Al-Bukhaari (3593) and Muslim (2921) narrated from the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
In Saheeh Muslim (2922) from the hadeeth of Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Muslims do not fight until the Muslims fight, so the Muslims will kill them until the Jew hides behind the stone and trees. A Jew behind me, so go and kill him, except the grove, it is from the trees of the Jews).
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In other words, omar is confirming that this is indeed genocide of the Jews. *Ugh*.
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In some accounts, there is evidence that the fighting of the Jews mentioned in this hadeeth will take place at the end of time when the Dajjaal comes out and Jesus Christ the son of Mary (peace be upon him) descends and kills him…
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Muslims also believe that “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–will slaughter all Christians in the last days.
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Of course Spencer did not say
That battle
For Jews who go with the Antichrist
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Pretty much everyone here is well aware of Muslim excuses for butchering Jews. We just don’t happen to condone them.
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Why intolerance?
Spencer controlled your minds
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So–we are “intolerant” if we take issue with Muslims slaughtering all Jews. This is how pious Muslims use language…
And note the idea that we would be applauding genocide if only it were not for that dastardly Spencer….
Try again, creep.
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I know everything
Like what I said before
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More unhinged Muslim supremacism.
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You will never believe the evidence and believe Spencer
If you have no answer, do not speak
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Of course we believe the evidence. We just don’t reach the same conclusion as Muslims, that it is right for them to slaughter Infidels.
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am a very religious Muslim
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*Of course* he is! He is a fan of genocide of the Jews.
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I strongly fight terrorism
For I opened my mind and saw evidence
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What would terrorism even mean for omar? He has already said here that Muslims have the right to conquer and oppress Infidels, and wipe out the Jews. Civilized people actually consider this to be terrorism.
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But you do not know it
I do not have a beard
Do not carry a weapon
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What omar is practicing here is Jihad of the pen–he does not need a weapon or a beard to wage this Jihad. What a tool to think we don’t know this.
balam says
gravenimage: Thanks for all the priceless information about Islam. Balam
gravenimage says
Thank you so much, Balam.
Joe says
Omar, you know so little. You must be a Muslim. Islam has killed 275 million people, and 250 million after the fighting stopped. You are going to have to do a lot better than your juvenile word games.
On most pages of the Koran, the lesson is to hate your neighbor. You can’t miss it. Have someone read it to you, if you are not able to read it yourself.
somehistory says
The claim of “out of context” or an insincere apology is always made because the truth is something they can’t face.
They say it, but when called on it, they can’t tell the truth and just admit that it was said with the feelings they had at the time of saying it, so they lie and say…they didn’t say it, said it but was out of “context” or they apologize with excuses, which is not an apology.
If the video recorded him saying it and it was posted on the web page of the place where he said it, then he said it and meant it with context intact. Had it been altered as he claims with some of it left out, it would not have been posted without his approval.
He said it, he meant it, but doesn’t have a backbone to admit that is what he thinks and feels and …wishes to happen. They all say it and mean it and wish it to happen. Some of them are just not ready to go whole hog and admit it to everyone….yet.
Guy Forester says
I think that what is meant by out of context is that Christians and any other non muslims are also to be destroyed in the last day apocalypse. So, there is really no hatred here. He is just explaining to all that despite the Jewish and Christian sacred scriptures are centuries and even millennia older than the quran, we have it all wrong. God will destroy the followers of Jesus and Moses, not those of Moh. See how that changes things! He does not really hate you, even though he wants to see you ultimately destroyed. Great comfort!
Now you know why the arab and other muslim armies made it a point to destroy ancient libraries that would have had even older manuscripts supporting the Hebrew and Greek texts that we use today.
Regarding Omar above, he proves the point of those concerned about jihad and anti-Semitism. The goal of these so called holy warriors is to force non-muslims to convert, die, or accept perpetual servitude, no recognizable civil or religious rights or freedoms.
Lisa Letto says
If only Boubakeur was around when Father Hamel had his head “pulled out of context” from his body by a young religious ‘peacemaker’
abu taleb says
Lying and deceicing is part of Islam way of life. And the muslims are proud of themselves when they can deceive the non muslims
duh swami says
Omar…The Quran is a dark and evil fairy tale whispered into the ear of a psychotic Arab, by an incoherent demon named Gabriel…Everything based on it is a lie…
James Lincoln says
If Boubakeur is a “highly respected representative of French Muslims” – and is a “moderate” – what are the positions of the “less moderate” ???
gravenimage says
President of French Council of the Muslim Faith claims sermon calling for killing Jews was taken “out of context”
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Gee–what’s the proper context for genocide of the Jews?
Rachael Montague says
The Hadith is exactly what it sounds like. If it’s “taken out of context,” then tell us what the “correct context” is… crickets….
commonsense says
Tatai said “We must do everything not to arrive” at a Muslim – Jewish war. In other words, this war can be avoided if all Jews become Muslim. A classic example of Islamic tolerance and mercy.
gravenimage says
Spot on, commonsense.