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Soccer Moms Take On Sharia In New Book

Jul 14, 2018 8:00 am By Andrew Harrod

“The best defense is grassroots education,” concludes Valerie L.  Greenfeld concerning domestic jihadist dangers in her new book Backyard Jihad: How Parents Can Detect the Invisible Threat of Radicalization. Her primer for Main Street communities contending with Muslims dreaming dangerous dreams of establishing Islamic states in the West raises important issues for the citizens of the free world in America and beyond who are seeking a first line of civil defense against sharia supremacism.

Greenfield’s book dismisses myths about jihadist terrorism involving disadvantaged individuals turning to violence out of despair. “Contrary to some media reports, those joining terrorist organizations in the U. S. rarely do so as a result of poverty or lack of education, dignity, or occupation,” she writes. “Why leave the U.S. after being fortunate enough to enter the freedom of America?” she perceptively notes of individuals in Islamic immigrant communities who leave America’s Promised Land for jihad in foreign hellholes.

Greenfeld draws upon a 2007 New York City Police Department (NYPD) study to show that recruits to jihad seek to fulfill various longings of the heart. “The prospective recruits are struggling with frustration, anger, loneliness, or disagreement,” she notes. “Finding a new identity or ideology fulfills the need to feel important and included.”

Jihadist recruiters’ techniques are “not unlike telemarketers,” notes Greenfeld. Her telephone interview with German Institute on Radicalization and De-radicalization Studies Director Daniel Koehler is particularly telling. The “enemy is a sophisticated, psychologically trained jihadi recruiter with huge networks and large coffers of money,” he has explained.

Greenfeld cites the book Son of Hamas by former Hamas terrorist Mosab Hassan Yousef to emphasize the particular Islamic doctrines that can lead to jihadist violence. “Most suicide bombers began as moderates,” Yousef has written, because “Islamic life is like a ladder, with prayer and praising Allah as the bottom rung,” while the “highest rung is jihad.” Accordingly, “American Muslims are more susceptible to radical messaging than non-Muslims,” Greenfield concludes from the NYPD study.

Greenfeld examines how jihadists translate theology into violent action on the basis of a 2009 recruitment manual. “Create vulnerability and isolate them. Talk about heaven and hell,” she explains is the manual’s recommended strategy for recruiters seeking to enlist prospective martyrs. Radicalization “normally happens to those who fear the torment of the afterlife and who come to know that jihad is the salvation from eternal damnation. The result is that jihad is desired and craved,” the manual argues.

Greenfeld analyzes the jihad doctrine’s potential for creating theological ticking time bombs that are often impervious to subsequent defusing through ideological reeducation. “It is uncertain if or when a non-jihadist Muslim will suddenly decide to act on their jihadi fantasies,” she writes. Meanwhile, as numerous de-radicalization failures indicate, Representative Peter King in a conversation with her “didn’t confirm that a feasible, effective program exists that can de-radicalize or rehabilitate terrorists.”

Along with individual acts of jihadist terrorism, Greenfeld warns of a “stealth jihad, an invisible threat of radicalization” presented by those Muslims who have little desire to assimilate into Western societies. “Immigration and procreation are the two most potent waves of invisible recruiting and cultural jihad,” given that orthodox “Islam is not only a religion, it is a way of life, social, political, intellectual, physical.” Therefore, often Islamic proselytization or “da’wa is an invitation to deceive,” such as with claims that Islam in Arabic means peace, when actually the “word Islam means submission.”

Greenfeld examines issues presented by various American Muslim communities, such as the Detroit suburb of “Hamtramck, Michigan, America’s first and only majority Muslim city.” “Five times each day the minaret sounds beginning at 6:00 a.m.” from a local mosque, one fact among others that means that “[s]ome residents are not sure if they are living in Michigan or somewhere in the Arabian desert.” “There is a certain resentment by the original residents, as their lifestyle is pushed aside for the import of a large number of immigrants who don’t intend to blend into the culture that was there before,” she writes.

A Greenfeld reunion in her hometown of Minneapolis, Minnesota, prompts interesting immigration policy observations about the influx of Somalis that has formed North America’s largest Somali community. “From the desert heat of Somalia to the cold tundra of 10,000 lakes, why would Somalis choose to live in Minnesota?” she wonders about this Muslim community that has become a source of jihadists in the land of Lake Wobegon. That “Minnesota spends more money per low-income individual on public welfare than any other state” is one significant factor.

Greenfeld notes that “media reporting is not always accurate and usually has a political goal,” something that only abets subversive jihadist influences such as the Dar al-Hijrah Mosque in northern Virginia’s “Wahhabi Corridor.” This mosque has numerous terrorism ties, “yet the evidence is not enough to convince politicians representing Virginia’s citizens to close the place down,” she states. In fairness to these lawmakers, it is precisely America’s freedoms that limit the legal possibilities to “close down” groups no matter how extreme, whether promoting jihad or white supremacy. By contrast, she reviews the record of former University of South Florida Professor Sami Al-Arian, ultimately convicted of material support for terrorism. “How do you feel about paying tuition for this guy to teach?” she asks.

Facing such enemies among us, Greenfeld’s homeland security strategy rightly prioritizes civil society taking on the challenge of jihadist ideology. “The extreme ideology must be addressed. While after-school teen programs are nice — they will not solve the problem,” she writes. This includes ever-elusive Islamic reform; thus “tolerance and respect for non-sharia Muslims is imperative — they lead the way to reformation” that “must come from the inside the moderate Muslim community.”

Greenfeld’s book provides a salutary reminder that, as with past totalitarian challenges, victory begins with a battle of ideas that instructs Americans why we fight. This ideological struggle requires a grassroots, Tea Party-like movement that understands lessons such as the fact that “[m]orals and values are best taught with family at the dinner table.” The “power in the United States is not in Washington, D.C., but in homes and neighborhoods around the country. We must return to American values, history and heritage and empower our children to protect our nation.”

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  1. David Anderson says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 8:41 am

    The answer to jihadi threat isn’t ‘de-radicalization’. The answer is to reveal as often and as loudly as possible that Mohammad was an outstandingly false prophet, that the Koran is full of vicious hatred and factual nonsense and self-contradiction, that the history of Islam is a screed of oppression, that Sharia is a receipe for poverty and misery, and that there is no heaven for murderers. Islam cannot be ‘made nice’. But it can be defanged and subverted by turning believers into unbelievers.

    • Susan B says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 1:24 pm

      Agreed, truth is the best way to destroy the lie that is islam.

      • mortimer says

        Jul 14, 2018 at 6:11 pm

        Agree with proviso. ‘De-radicalization’ simply means trying to convince jihadis that Islam doesn’t teach TERRORISM, when, in fact, ISLAM ACTUALLY TEACHES TERRORISM as confirmed CONCLUSIVELY by the Koran, hadiths, Sira, classical commentaries, Sharia law and Islamic history.

        There is no possible way those who have READ AND MEMORIZED key verses from the above-referenced texts can EVER NOT BELIEVE that Islam teaches terrorism.

        Jihadis must be taught CONCLUSIVELY that ISLAM IS BUNK … and the WORST SORT of CONTRIVED, INVENTED, CONCOCTED and FABRICATED BUNKUM there is.

        Once jihadis see and acknowledge that the CALIPHS INVENTED and FABRICATED ISLAM, they will be the recipients of SUBSTANTIAL DOUBT about the credibility of Islam.

        If the FOUNDATIONAL STORY OF ISLAM IS NOT CREDBILE, but BUNK, then JIHAD IS NOT WORTH DYING FOR.

        • mortimer says

          Jul 14, 2018 at 6:14 pm

          A New Creed for ex-Muslims: MOHAMMED IS A FALSE PROPHET and ISLAM IS HIS LETHAL, FABRICATED IDEOLOGY.

        • Carl Goldberg, PhD says

          Jul 17, 2018 at 11:56 pm

          IMHO, it is futile to convince Moslems that Islam is a lie and that Muhammad was a false prophet. Moslems believe, not because they have examined facts, but because they have been taught from childhood to believe or because they find a sense of solidarity and direction in the Moslem community. The propagators of Islamic ideology, that is, the mosques and the Moslem community organizations, need to be exposed and, eventually shut down. That is the way to deal with the Islamic threat.

    • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 2:19 am

      David Anderson, the best solution is to realise that the satan god mithraist christians Call Holy Spirit in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods is a false god inspiring evil Jews to continue enslaving America to use taxpayer’s monies to fund fascist evil Zionist State of Israel to carry out genocide killings and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and for evil United States to lead in international brigandage destroying other nations causing miseries that cause people to hate America.

      • flo says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 7:05 am

        ibrahim I think you are a very evil man. you are in fact a satan disguise as a human being.
        when you die you will surely go to hell.

        • IanB says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 7:47 am

          Hello Flo. By referring to the superstitious, man-made concepts of “Satan” and “Hell” you are merely reinforcing his irrational beliefs. I tell him his “Allah” is non-existent, the so-called prophet Muhammad was a fraud who invented a death cult evidenced his obscene book and 1400 years of murder and mayhem. Best wishes, IanB.

      • Giacomo Latta says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 9:37 am

        Take a course in run-on sentences among other things.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 5:54 pm

        This is all projection from Ibrahim itace muhammed–according to him, Muslims not being allowed to enslave Americans means that they are enslaved by “evil Jews”, and Muslims not being allowed to destroy Israel is “ethnic cleansing”. He has also said that Jihadists being kept out of the US by Trump’s policies is “genocide”.

        And then he claims that Muslims not being allowed to murder Americans causes them to “hate America”. Well, this much is true–Muslims always hate it when they are not allowed to murder people.

        Note, also, that Ibrahim itace muhammed has no concept of people living freely–he assumes that if we are not being enslaved by Muslims, then it must be someone else enslaving us. What an ugly and sad worldview.

    • J D S says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 10:30 pm

      Greenfield hit on one very important item….our Constitutional freedoms. Pertaining to any efforts to close known jihadist mosques and Muslim, terrorist affiliated organizations.
      Muslims are using our freedoms against us and no elected official will do one thing to address this…..WHY? Because they are AFRAID that anything they might do …might erode our freedoms..What a quandary.

  2. Susan B says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 9:23 am

    This is not a soccer Mom but a well educated and informed individual who has worked in government within the heart of this topic. Click on her name within the article. However, it is a book that seems would be worth reading.

    When the west starts to cut out this islamic cancer, Somalis would be a great place to start.These parasites suck the welfare tit of every free country they invade dry and contribute nothing but crimes of rape and violence. We have these same people in Canada doing the same thing, no soul no conscience, they just use and abuse the goodwill of free people. Sadly, so many people are still unaware of what is happening because of the MSM and stupid or bought and paid for politicians.

    I know that Trump has taken on many issues within the deep state, but the actual issue islam has not been fully addressed by him, as of yet. I image that he has planned his strategy to fight this evil, but can not play out his hand yet. I have every confidence that he will deal with islam moving forward. Our Doug Ford is also starting to tackle this problem all hopeful signs.

    This poem narrated by Trump tells it all. I know that many have seen this but for new comers:

    • abad says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 11:35 am

      I am totally with you about starting with the cancerous Somali Moslems who have no business being here. We can start with that infidel murderer Mohammad Noor who murdered that poor lady Justine Damond in cold blood in Minneapolis. I don’t want him in my country. I do not want his family in my country.

      Backyard Jihad sounds like a very good read, it is so important for Americans to keep an eye on what their children are exposed to: in both people, written material, and popular culture, since Hollywood and the media portrays Islam as something very desirable: forbidden fruit, if you will.

      We are in the middle of a spiritual war: Christianity, the Religion of Light, the Lord Jesus Christ who is Pure Light Himself, who will return to earth to destroy Islam, the Religion of Evil and Darkness, the Religion of Evil and Death.

      Satan is the author of Islam and will be destroyed by the Lord Jesus. (Revelation 20)

      • PRCS says

        Jul 14, 2018 at 9:49 pm

        “Satan is the author of Islam and will be destroyed by the Lord Jesus. (Revelation 20)”

        No, it won’t.

        Mere mortals will have to do that.

        • IanB says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 7:50 am

          +1 It’s no use depending on superstitious beliefs for deliverance from Islam.

        • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 9:49 am

          pRcs, the entity you call Holy Spirit is exactly the satan who inspired filthy christianity as paganism of mithraism. you and Holy Spirit will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 10:49 am

          I’m an atheist, you idiot.

        • Susan B says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 2:37 pm

          That might be your problem.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 2:57 pm

          Ian,

          I fully agree!

        • PRCS says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 3:23 pm

          And if I were a Buddhist, a Sikh, a Hindu, or a Jain would that also bother you Susan?

        • Susan B says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 5:32 pm

          PRCS, only if you were a muslim would I be bothered. You can be anything you want to be that does not mean you have all the answers as you so arrogantly assume you do.

          By the way I have no problem with Buddhist or Hindus etc. they are all trying to get back to God through enlightenment, however, Jesus is a short cut.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 6:01 pm

          PRCS, it should come as no surprise that the ignorant Ibrahim itace muhammed considers you to be Christian, despite your post, above.

          He also continues to refer to Wellington as a “filthy mithraist christian”, despite having been told dozens of times that Wellington is Agnostic.

          More proof that we have to stand together against the threat of Islam.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 9:20 pm

          “PRCS, only if you were a muslim would I be bothered.”

          Well Susan, per your previous statement regarding my atheism (That might be your problem), the arrogance is yours and you are a liar.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 11:59 am

      Yes, Islam means submission and not peace. When the members of a religion begin by lying to you about the very meaning of the name of their religion you should be alert to the fact that you are dealing with either a very stupid or a very treacherous group of people. After 1,400 years of “Islam” meaning “submission” my conclusion is that most of today’s members of that religion belong to the treacherous group and what they tell you about their religion should be received with much skepticism. The story of the kind woman and the snake is very apt.

      • J D S says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 10:37 pm

        Greenfield hit on one very important item….our Constitutional freedoms. Pertaining to any efforts to close known jihadist mosques and Muslim, terrorist affiliated organizations.
        Muslims are using our freedoms against us and no elected official will do one thing to address this…..WHY? Because they are AFRAID that anything they might do …might erode our freedoms..What a quandary.

    • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 7:02 am

      Susan B, time will come when all of you ugly monkeys white mithraist christians will go back to Europe you came from and made to pay reparations for the original inhabitants of Americas you slaughtered and settled there. wicked scums of evils inspired by the satan (Holy Spirit) in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods!!

      • Susan B says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 8:07 am

        Awww poor poor lost soul ibraham. What I can guarantee is that all the lands stolen by muslims with a blood trial of close to a billion bodies will be returned, by God, to their proper inhabitants and islam will go to the dust bin of history as a very very bad memory of the most evil satanic cult to inhabit this planet. Hopefully you will get to see this before you die ibraham. My advice to you is that you turn to God and ask that he free you of the clutches of Satan, or allah as you muslims prefer to called that evil entity.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 6:08 pm

        This from Ibrahim itace muhammed is absurd. As pagans, Native Americans would have been targets for genocidal slaughter by Muslims.

        He has no sympathy for Native Americans–he just hopes to instill unearned guilt in Americans in the hope that they will then roll over for Muslim conquest.

        In fact, when I said that I had worked with Native Americans in several education programs, he called me a liar, saying–absurdly–that Native Americans no longer existed.

      • J D S says

        Jul 16, 2018 at 9:15 am

        Ibrahim…..Everyone on JW can see that you are a breeder of stupidity and stupidity breeds stupidity… why would you bribe anything the false prophet muhammad would say ( if he ever actually existed ..No Historical Proof that he did)
        John was and is the last prophetic person God sent and the Revelations of John tells it all including what is happening today…islam I’d doomed..read the Book of Revelations unless you are afraid to.

    • Ibrahim itace muhammed says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 7:08 am

      Susan B,time will come when all of you ugly monkeys the white mithraist christians will have to leave Americas and go back to Europe and made to pay reparations for the original inhabitants you slaughtered and settled there. wicked scums of evils inspired by the satan you call Holy Spirit!!

      • IanB says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 7:54 am

        Dear Ibrahim, you have a garbage dump of a brain. I pity you, poor fella. IanB

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 6:12 pm

        More spam.

  3. Indiana Tom says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 11:21 am

    Backyard Jihad: How Parents Can Detect the Invisible Threat of Radicalization.
    Uhhhmmm….are there any Mosques nearby? Well, that might be a good indicator.
    Dunno, about the accuracy of the following, but when the B-24 is getting hit by a lot of flak, the Liberator bomber is usually over the target.
    In January, a prominent Muslim leader in the United Kingdom with links to the Muslim Brotherhood estimated that half of the mosques in America were founded by Brotherhood members.
    https://clarionproject.org/radical-mosques-america-there-one-near-you-2/
    90 Percent Of U.S. Mosques Teach Radical Ideology To Destroy America
    http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/brigitte-gabriel-90-percent-of-u-s-mosques-teach-radical-ideology-to-destroy-america/

    • J D S says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 10:50 pm

      I have seen some other statistics about the “BROTHERHOOD MOSQUES IN AMERICA” but can’t remember where..Maybe Robert could shed more light

  4. infidel says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 11:35 am

    GRAND MUFTI OF KASHMIR DEMANDS THE SECOND PARTITION OF INDIA….

    https://www.indiatoday.in/programme/india-first/video/give-muslims-another-country-or-set-up-sharia-courts-across-india-says-j-k-deputy-grand-mufti-1282176-2018-07-10

    • Garfield says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 4:08 pm

      So upsetting. Islam never brings peace. It’s not about anything good or happy. Islamists act like monsters who hate life. Perversion, misery, no respect for anything decent. No one needs islam.

      Islam is a death cult.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 5:48 pm

      Muslims *always* want more–and giving it to them just emboldens them.

      • J D S says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 11:15 pm

        It’s just do sad to see that so many, especially those elected officials can’t, or won’t see, that Islam is Satan driven.
        .
        Oh that all would embrace Christianity….If not for the reward that awaits. If not for the good that is done in the name of Christianity, if not for the love that Christianity produces but even to just to prove that ISLAM IS NOT THE RELIGION OF PEACE. Christianity is!

        Compare the Koran and the New Testament and find anywhere that Jesus tells to kill, rape, steal,enslave or any of the atrocious acts found in the Koran and other Islamic teachings.
        Those things alone should be enough for the world to see Satan st his most vile state and for those in power to take action to eradicate it but we must remember…God will only allow Satan to go so far…

  5. Rarely says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 12:09 pm

    Sounds fabulous. A true breath of fresh air.

  6. somehistory says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm

    There is no “reform” to islam. molsims may wake up and find the courage to leave ti. moslims might realize they are serving the devil and heading to their own demise, and so leave islam.

    But there is no reforming the cult of death, the wild beast from satan, islam. it is evil through and through.

    islam is poison from beginning to end, evil, without a trace of virtue or value. There is no reforming it.

  7. granddaddy says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 2:56 pm

    “tolerance and respect for non-sharia Muslims is imperative — they lead the way to reformation”

    I don’t like being a downer, but there is no reason to believe that “non-sharia” Muslims (whatever that is) will lead the way to reformation. Islam has had 1400 years to reform, and everyone who has tried has met with death. Sharia is their law, so if a Muslim is not following Sharia, he is not being a good Muslim. And that’s apostasy. And that can get your “non-sharia” Muslim killed.

    The problem here is our understanding of the word “reform”. When Christians reformed in the past, it led to the Reformation: rejection of Catholic doctrine and adoption of a religion closer to the original intent of the Bible: love you neighbor as yourself, do not lie, do not murder, do not covet, etc. When Muslims reform, it rejects what we call “moderates” and moves to a religion closer to the intent of the Quran as it was originally written also: hate, deceit, suppression, violence, rape, and war.

    We don’t want Islam to reform, we want it to die out.

    • Garfield says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 4:09 pm

      Agreed. As my Dad used to say “you can’t make a silk purse out of a does ear.”

      • CogitoErgoSum says

        Jul 14, 2018 at 4:25 pm

        In the case of Islam, it would be like trying to make a silk purse out of sow’s (pig’s) ear.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 14, 2018 at 5:49 pm

      Grimly true.

    • simpleton1 says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 8:13 am

      Good points there ‘granddaddy’
      Ordinary plain so called muslims will just continue on to gain “paradise” by their “inner” struggle.
      Otherwise how is islam suppose to work for the “believers”?
      There moderate reform is to reform us!.

      Education Jihad
      Cultural Jihad
      Demographic Jihad
      Economic Jihad
      Institutional Jihad
      Media Jihad
      Financial Jihad
      Litigation Jihad
      is their MOST effective tool

      Then for the serious pious fundamental muslim, who can quietly be supported in the midst of those moderates:-
      Criminal Jihad
      Thuggery Jihad.

  8. gravenimage says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    Soccer Moms Take On Sharia In New Book
    ………………………

    Bravo, Ms. Greenfeld!

    You can find her book here:

    https://www.amazon.com/Backyard-Jihad-Parents-Invisible-Radicalization-ebook/dp/B07D8CPX8S

  9. PRCS says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 6:45 pm

    “Backyard Jihad: How Parents Can Detect the Invisible Threat of Radicalization”

    For crying out loud! As it pertains to Muslims, what in Hell does “radicalization” mean? At what point does a Muslim’s compliance with Qur’an/Sunna become “radicalization”?

  10. somehistory says

    Jul 14, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    The author means well, but she should read Mr. Spencer’s books, and those of others who really know islam, such as Raymond Ibrahim and Daniel Greenfield.

    islam began as a terror organization that used rape, murder, extortion, and slavery to spread the evil that the false prophet, liar, raper of children and mass murderer conjured up with the help of satan.

    it is the same today as it was in the beginning. No moslim can be trusted to tell the truth and none can be trusted to not want their evil code to become law of the land. There are no groups of moslims that are fighting to “reform” islam because they all know it is what it is and if they say different, they are lying.

  11. Jasnan says

    Jul 15, 2018 at 12:05 am

    Radicalization is actually hating the infidel, but prior to this Mohammedians learn to hate women, this hatred is in form of divine law, adulterous women should be put to death by stoning, even if is their mother…..

    Mohammedans see infidel women as whores and men are promoting adultery….which is so disgusting for Mohammedans honor which is always between their women’s legs…..in fact many Mohammedan parents strangle their daughter to death for honor ???

    This is the reason for their brutality.

    But they can have infidel women as sex slaves…..it is in Qur’an..

    • PRCS says

      Jul 15, 2018 at 12:11 am

      That is NOT radicalization. It is compliance.

      • IanB says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 8:00 am

        Brilliant “in a nutshell” comment PRCS.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 15, 2018 at 3:03 pm

          Thanks.

          For those like Jasnan (whom I imagine means well), I pose the following question:

          At what point does a Muslim’s compliance with Qur’an/Sunna become “radicalization”?

      • Ben says

        Jul 15, 2018 at 11:45 pm

        PRCS: the correct term is activation, not radicalization, just as a hand grenade is activated when the pin is pulled.

        • PRCS says

          Jul 16, 2018 at 10:19 am

          No way to know when the “activation” will become detonation.

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