Here is the latest development on the latest libel of me in the Leftist propaganda rag/laboratory for budding establishment media “journalists,” the Stanford Daily. The author of the article I discussed here, Emily Wilder, who had written that I was among speakers (the others unnamed) who “subject [Stanford students] to death threats and harassment,” has now appended this to her original article:
An update from Wilder, July 26 at 2 p.m.: I would like to clarify that I am not directly accusing Robert Spencer of issuing death threats to members of community, but rather that members of the community received death threats immediately following the publication of pieces attacking students on his website, Jihad Watch. These death threats were a result of exposure on Spencer’s website.
There are a number of things wrong with this:
1. Wilder asserts, again without providing any evidence, that Stanford students received death threats. There is actually no published indication that this is true. If Wilder can produce police reports regarding these threats, then her claim could be credible. As it stands, there is no evidence that any Stanford student received any death threats at all. Given Wilder’s numerous factually false claims about Israeli “atrocities” in her original piece, there is no reason to take her word for it or trust her on this claim.
2. The statement that “these death threats were a result of exposure on Spencer’s website,” a classic example of the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, keeps the central libel intact: the implication that I am some kind of thug who goes around menacing innocent people, such that threats and violence follow in my wake. In reality, while I have received hundreds of death threats and there have been two attempts to murder me (one by jihadis and one by a Leftist), I’ve never threatened anyone, or called for any violence, or approved of any violence.
3. Emily Wilder’s claim that Stanford students were threatened with death as a result of my “pieces attacking students” at Jihad Watch strikes at the very heart of what free discourse actually is. What really happened was this: Stanford students attacked me at the Stanford Daily and the Stanford Review. I responded at Jihad Watch, answering their claims point-by-point. This is what Wilder characterizes as “attacking students” — engaging them in rational discourse (which is clearly not just out of fashion, but entirely forgotten at Stanford).
Now she is asserting that Stanford students received death threats because I criticized Stanford students (she doesn’t make it clear whether it was the students I allegedly “attacked” or others that received these supposed threats). So presumably I am not to write anything critical about Stanford students even when they attack me, as that could result in death threats. If one follows Wilder’s “reasoning” to its logical conclusion, no one should ever criticize anything, because the criticized person could get death threats. But then again, she feels free to level wild false accusations against me, because I oppose jihad terror and support Israel, and doesn’t seem in the least concerned that I could be threatened or killed because of her criticisms. So the upshot is: Leftists may speak and criticize those who are not Leftists, but their victims are not allowed to respond or to speak at all.
This is the logic of totalitarianism and oppression. And that is where the Left is tending, both on campus and off.
Martin says
She needs a year of prison time for slander.
D Austin says
and/or defamation.
mike9a says
We are doomed!, institution(s) of “higher learning” is(are) producing these kind of brains.
Mark Swan says
“This is the logic of totalitarianism and oppression. And that is where the Left is tending, both on campus and off.”
Absolutely Mr. Spencer.
Greg Smith says
When you are trying to save the world there is no time old-time logic, only action.
gravenimage says
Greg, action can be logical. If it is to be effective, in fact, it must be logical.
infidel says
I have always been saying for long that these IVY LEAGUES have become POISON IVY..
Sons of Liberty says
This girl will fit right in at the New York Times just like the guy who made up the stories he wrote about in that worthless paper ! She may even get a movie made about her like he did for MAKING up the news .
Sun says
It does not have to be prison. One year in an islamic country might even have an better effect on her understanding of freedom of speech and harrasment.
jihad3tracker says
Thirty minutes with a devout Muslim male would sufficiently wake her up —but that will add one more Allah worshipper to our planet’s misery.
eduardo odraude says
It might take a lot longer than 30 minutes, if she’s fact-and-logic challenged, or if the devout Muslim in question wants to court her or for other reasons wants to tone down the Islamic aspects for the time being.
Vlad says
Living in an I s l a m i c… s h i t h o l e country for 1 year should be the minimum… l e g a l … p u n i s h m e n t handed out to all those that criticize the west, the western achievements, white so- c a l l e d privilege, or any other misdemeanors that is contrary to our laws and our freedoms.
On their return, they ought to be further compelled to write 500 words + essays, why the west is absolutely the very best that humanity can achieve.
Non-compliance, back to a i s l a m i c… s h i t-hole for life.
mortimer says
Emily Wilder is CLUELESS and believes that intensity of her FEELINGS can substitute for FACT-BASED REASONING.
When FACTS and LOGIC go against her, she INVENTS her ‘OWN FACTS’ and then claims using ‘real facts’ is unfair.
This is intellectually dishonest.
mortimer says
As an apology, we hope Emily Wilder will READ the ‘HISTORY OF JIHAD’ by Robert Spencer and give the book a positive review.
J D S says
So I suppose that people who read JW articles are “reverse Radicalized” and then perpetrated attacks..(Threats) on Stanford students. Of course this is coming out of Stanford…go figure!
Our schools of higher learning…well ALL schools are becoming so liberal that soon they will be more liberal than the politicians, if not already, who have closed their eyes and ears and mouths to what’s happening to our great country. Reminds me of the picture of the three monkeys…. One with mouth covered one with ears covered and the other with eyes covered. NO SEE, NO HEAR, NO SPEAK!
mortimer says
Libellous slander of this obvious falsehood should be easy to discredit in court, thus bringing a financial penalty upon the delusional Emily Wilder. She should immediately retain counsel because she is in trouble. Only a complete apology and 100% retraction of her egregious falsehoods are acceptable.
I would personally demand that she pay a large sum of money to work of Robert Spencer and to pay members of Jihad Watch.
Whatever Robert Spencer has spent so far on lawyers in this matter should be reimbursed to him by Emily Wilder.
jihad3tracker says
Agree completely — If Robert decides to proceed with a suit against any of the slime who defame him, she AND Stanford should be chosen.
jihad3tracker says
She should send grad resumes to cemeteries — applying for Grave Digger — because her speed with a career-burying shovel is awesome ! ! !
Jay says
This woman is deranged ! She is out of touch with reality amd suffers from that mental disease known as liberalism! I would file a libel suit against her immediately ! Robert Spencer is an intelligent respected man amd she is not qualified to wash his car!!
mortimer says
Robert Spencer has produced a very nice description of the problems related to the way Leftards CRITICIZE OTHERS but expect to be EXEMPT FROM ANY COUNTER-CHALLENGE either to their own VERACITY or to their own ETHICAL or AMORAL POSITION.
Leftards seem to see themselves as standing behind a FIREWALL from which the Leftist-Globalists fire off their fiery darts at the counterjihad and behind which they are safe from any critique.
Leftards like Emily Wilder seem to believe that any falsehood against the counterjihad is fair game, but that any FACT-BASED RAISED the LEFTARDS is somehow UNFAIR.
In other ways, the LEFTARDS are claiming the right to an UNLEVEL PLAYING FIELD in which the LEFT RIGS THE GAME SO THEY ALWAYS WIN and the counterjihad always loses.
That is only possible if a debate is rigged by CENSORSHIP.
The Leftards clearly EXPECT to have censorship imposed in their favor.
This reveals their UNEXAMINED and UNDENIABLE FASCIST PRE-SUPPOSITIONS.
mortimer says
correction: Leftards like Emily Wilder seem to believe that any falsehood against the counterjihad is fair game, but that any FACT-BASED CRITIQUE RAISED against the LEFTARDS is somehow UNFAIR and should be SILENCED or prevented from a HEARING. They want a ONE-SIDED DEBATE or rather, they want to promulgate unchallenged PROPAGANDA.
gravenimage says
Stanford’s Emily Wilder issues “clarification” of her libel of Robert Spencer, keeps the libel intact
……………….
This is appalling, but should not surprise.
Charlie says
She needs to file a police report, and investigate who is making those death threats. She has made the implicit assertion that the Jihad Watch Website is the source that inspires or exhorts people to make death threats. These are outrageous claims. In the words of Carl Sagan, “outrageous claims require outrageous evidence”. File the charges and conduct an investigation so we can see who these evildoers are. If it turns out to be more hoax claims, then I think charges need to be filed against the hoaxers. The left plays dirty all too often and need to pay the consequences.
revereridesagain says
Yes, she should be legally challenged for these accusations. As it now stands, she thinks she can get away with libel and slander merely by making some lame “clarifications” that leave the original outrageous charges essentially intact.
mortimer says
Is Stanford unconcerned that its students are so dim-witted and UNPREPARED FOR DISCUSSION that they do not understand the very nature of a DEBATE? Debate is normal in ACADEMIA.
DEBATE is in fact practiced by ALL academics by the very nature of PEER-REVUED JOURNALS in which ALL academics are expected to publish their academic findings and SUBMIT THEM TO THE CRITIQUES of their PEERS!
Stanford is NOT preparing its students by encouraging them to SPOUT UNCHALLENGED UNFOUNDED OPINIONS.
b.a. freeman says
well, at least that’s the way it is in math, science, and engineering; in the “soft” studies, where there is no use for the scientific method, shouting unfounded opinions is the *best* way to get ahead. a brownshirt can’t get ahead if he doesn’t whack a filthy jew or a non-leftist once in a while.
Linda says
Preposterous!
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
Her hypocritical slander is typical of the Left. They are snowflakes and liars.
libertyORdeath says
Thank you again Mr. Spencer for insisting that the truth be told regardless of the backlash from the herd. Jihad Watch is EXACTLY what these clueless liberals and islamists fear most – factual coverage and exposure of the jihad threat to every civilized society in the world.
I know personally that most of the readers here at jihadwatch wouldn’t waste their time sending death threats to the ignorant children over at Stanford.
I hope that you are able to defend yourself from these absurd claims and prove yet another leftist claim to be a hoax. Good luck and thanks again Robert.
SemiDave says
Here! Here!
Karlee says
What’s unfair here is you can’t sue her for libel. She probably doesn’t own enough that is fully paid in her own name.
Lydia Church says
Ugh! A peek into the warped left minded brain! As a quick recap:
1. Robert comes to speak at an institution of ‘higher learning.’
2. The leadership, as well as leftist activists, try to suppress the lecture in many ways. They do not support rational discourse.
3. Stanford students attack Robert with accusations that are false.
4. Robert refutes the students’ accusations, defending himself point by point with reason and facts.
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5. At some point, some students at Stanford received death threats. Not clear what their involvement was.
So… based on this she makes the following false assumptions:
1. That Robert defending himself against their attacks on him somehow is transformed into him attacking them. This false assumption is built on another; that he should not defend himself if attacked whether right or wrong, but has no freedom of speech.
2. The fact that he did defend himself against their attacks, and some death threats followed, implies that he should not defend himself against libel and slander.
3. The fact that the death threats happened after Robert defended himself implies that him defending himself caused the death threats (false cause, or because one thing happened before another therefore it caused the latter event).
4. That the death threats even happened.
So based on these false assumptions, no one should ever defend themselves when their character is attacked (whether right or wrong), or criticize those who are dangerous, because, after all, someone, somewhere in the world… might receive death threats! (Yet the dangerous ones that are criticized, and rightly so, may cause even more deaths…) So we’ll just allow them to bully us into silence according to that line of thinking.
As an irony to her actions, she attacks Robert, unconcerned that as a result, he may receive death threats!
Yes, the word is: deranged!
Terry Gain says
We don’t know for a fact that any Stanford students received threats of any kind. It might well be the case that Wilder had expanded her libel to include the people who read this site.
Keys says
Great point, Terry.
Someone made a derisive comment about some Stanford students in a comment section somewhere and she paints it as specific personal threats against an individual Stanford student.
le mouron rouge says
It appears that Ms. Wilder’s is just another puppet in the propaganda war.
The question is, “who is pulling the strings?”
Rob Crawford says
Unless she can point to an incident of the FBI escorting would-be assassins to a shooting, she has no leg to stand on.
Arcadia P says
As usual Robert you have been totally logical in your response to these fabricated accusations.
Mat says
I have never commented on this site, but I would like to say, Thank you Robert for all your work, it is appreciated.
CogitoErgoSum says
Why aren’t the Russians at the top of her list of suspects responsible for sending these alleged death threats?
Wellington says
Emily Wilder: Produce evidence that any Stanford student received a death threat because they in any way criticized Robert Spencer. I say you can’t and I also say you are a liar.
duh swami says
Evidence of threat? Popular liars can often recruit other liars to support them in their lies…it’s her move…
infidel says
Another DUMB-F feminazzi LEFTY that has gone on the payrolls of the Jehaadis…. How disgusting these types of women are???
Singh The Sikh says
Emily Wilder’s arguments totally demolished.
AnnieB says
The enemies win and STOP FREEDOM OF SPEECH with their death threats
Stand up for what is moral and right.
Educate yourself and teach the truth WITH FACTS, not yelling or being afraid.
VOTE for elected officials who will keep you and all AMERICANS safe.
YOUR VOTE IS YOUR VOICE.
Johm says
Wilder is a student of higher education and says these kind of things ? You should be ashamed of your self ! Robert would never do this sort of thing. He is a professional, you are just an amiture at best !
Neil Ross says
If, in expressing views or beliefs, you become responsible for all the unforseen consequences, then those who preach the Koran and give vocal support to Islam are responsible for more than mere death threats. They are responsible for countless acts of terror, murders, rapes, enslavements and genocides. That line of reasoning puts billions of innocent Muslims, and their supporters like Emily, in the dock for crimes committed by others. It is a very dangerous and mistaken line of reasoning. It is this sort of collective guilt libel that caused anti-semitism, jihad extremism and dangerous Islamophobia. Somehow we need to move away from this. Would be nice if some Islamic voices were heard saying that it’s OK to be Jewish, Christian, Apostate, Gay, Blasphemous, Atheist or Muslim if that’s your preference.
Norger says
Good point. How many hundreds of millions of lives have been lost or ruined because of someone’s “exposure” to Islam?
sam says
Emily’s underlying strategy is to remove Jihad Watch from being informative. She does not take into account that Jihad Watch has to compete with the likes of CNN, Washington Post, BBC.Moreover, major government propaganda machinery adds to the added pressures. Is it in Emily’s erudition her contention that Jihad Watch is a threat to all this powerful organizations?
Ann Marie says
Who are these ‘students’? Why haven’t they come forward? A little difficult when they exist only in her mind..
This is another example of the leftist logic: never let the facts get in the way of the agenda and the final goal..
No Muzzies Here says
The left is attacking Robert Spencer with extreme intensity. Their attacks stem from anger and hatred. It appears that they hate anyone who blocks the way for Jihadis to eliminate Christianity and turn this country into a caliphate.
Robert Spencer calmly exposes the truth. Robert Spencer defends himself with words. Robert Spencer does not practice or encourage violence, but in fact has been the victim of violence from Jihadis and the left.
When you understand the intensity of their hate for this country, you will understand the intensity of their hate for Robert Spencer.
KJW says
I think some realize they’ve been made a fool of because they didn’t study Islam and just listened to taqiyya-loving, lying Muslim groups and Muslims who don’t even know about their religion. They don’t se to care that Muslims are using them as useful idiots while Muslims are against liberalism and secularism. Islamic law is definitely the opposite of liberal and is like the Puritans on steroids. “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.”
Too, they’re blindly toeing a line. Apparently it doesn’t matter that Islam is against gays, women’s equality, tattoos, dogs, alcohol, gambling, graven images, women bring impure during menstruation, sex before marriage is a very grave punishable sin, apostasy can get a death sentence in 10 Islamic countries as well as blasphemy, the latter being punishanle in all Muslim countries, the sacrifice of cows in a bloody mess in the town square during the Festival of Sacrifice, in Iran a 29 yr old got 2 extra years in prison over the 10 she got for drawing a political cartoon regarding contraception legislation; she shook her lawyer’s hand and women can’t shake hands with men outside of immediate family. Same with Saudi Arabia who has a dividing wall in Statbuck’s..,single men and women can’t chat together no less dance nor can they date like we do. There’s so much more.
I have heard Muslims even wanting stoning here-some Somalian guy said so, and lashing (caning) to begin with in their Muslim communities. Child marriage is happening in all Western countries and not heeding our laws.
Apparently Leftists from our top schools appear to think these things aten’t worth criticizing when MANY imams and Muslims have every intention to conquer are countries and institute sharia law. I guess they’ll be fine with wearing hijabs, many movies and music forbidden and entertainment.
Instead they dig in their heels wanting to be correct rather than saving their freedoms. It’s not liberal to quash free speech and even when people are offended by it. They appear to have no problem offending people.
It’s sad top universities are degrading; I see teachers writing books full of lies and inaccurate narratives such as the OIC. People such as Natana J. DeLong-Bas is paid by Arabs…she is a theology professor at Boston College and does not tell the truth to her fellow Catholics. This is the rot going on. A lot of parroting going on.
They think people are racist, and actually the main races are Eastern Asian and blacks, the rest are white and admix’s such as Middle Easterners…they are ethnic groups like Greeks, Italians, Chechens.
They can’t seem to get out of partisan boxes either. As more liberal I still was for the 2nd Amendment and following the law re illegal immigration. Following the law is not a liberal or conservative issue-it’s law. They are very inconsistent and hypocritical. A friend in Iran has now decided we should suffer for it as they have not listened to people like him. Some leftists have even called
Ex-Muslims Islamophobe…those who grew up in Islamic countries. That is unconscionable and pathetic.
jewdog says
Hey Emily: Ever since the Toronto shooting my cat has been keeping me up at night. That’s post hoc propter felid. Can you explain that?
Tom S. says
Robert: They want to kill you because you are such an awesome hero for Western Civilization, and you are winning!
s says
The Left has now begun to say ANYTHING that comes into their thoughts without regard for fact or truth or reality… NO ONE CORRECTS THEM! Save of course, Robert…. we must put forth a concerted effort to “Call them out” when they put forth this kind of garbage that is dehumanizing… insightful …hateful.. false…
we are witnessing a Precursor to Vast Evil… it must be called out and stopped!
Elizabeth Lawson says
If Ms. Wilder has interpreted anything that Robert Spencer has uttered as threatening in any way to anyone, then she needs two things urgently. A new pair of glasses with which to read, and an urgent appointment with an audiologist. On second thought, an IQ test might be in order as well. In today’s world, we are grappling with Islamic incursion everywhere, bringing with it illiberal, raw barbarism, violence and death. The Left would do well to pay attention to the mounting statistical numbers of victims – non Muslim victims, across the world. Ms. Wilder, in her idiocy is disabling her students to this shocking reality. She wouldn’t get far in any non Western country, whether or not she licked the boots of Islamic supremacists- she would be just one more sad, and unforgivably stupid leftist – and headless, victim.
Norger says
“So presumably I am not to write anything critical about Stanford students even when they attack me, as that could result in death threats.”
I think you now understand the rules of the game, Mr. Spencer. It’s a topsy turvy world these “students” live in. Honestly this young woman is such an immature idiot she’s not worthy of your time.
Hogdude says
The Russians have a solution for folks like this. I don’t approve necessarily, but they are placed in an insane asylum for a period of treatment. Here, it appears that Mr. Spencer invaded their “little safe spaces” and their little tummies were upset. Perhaps their parents should pick them up and put them in bed until their tummies are better.
Max says
Well, here we have another leftist bimbo. I hope you can sue the Stanford Daily for all they got.
KJW says
Most of the time death threats are idol such as the death threats a Cubs fan got for catching an in-bound baseball. The dentist who killed Cecil the Lion got death threats. The president and other politicians get them. So do judges.
Too many Muslims have followed through with them; Pakistan is assassination Central and many have accused others of blasphemy without proof, even students killed a fellow student. If one cows to Muslims fearing being attacked you are letting the intimidators have their way and you will be in a metaphorical cage. You might need that free speech one day.
The smearing if Robert
Spencer is because he has a notable following, many of whom really know their Islam and world history. They do not know all of that because of Robert but people share their knowledge and they are smart. Robert well knows there are tons of books out there with the same ideas for over 100 years. Robert gathers such scholarly information and he’s a good speaker and tells it like it is and isn’t like some esoteric professors who are affected and out to impress other professors…Robert
speaks clearly not pretentiously and therefore attracts people who don’t feel he is haughty, emotional, and someone who *purposely* lies. (We all make mistakes.)
So, they’re attacking him because they have no good counter-arguments and they have agendas. I can not wait for some right time nor worry about some Christians’ feelings regarding abortion or anything. Free thinkers in Europe who challenged religious dogma didn’t sit around worrying about people’s feelings because it is the umbrella of a religion not that each and every Muslim is bad, stupid, etc. But Islam is a major problem in the world and a threat to countries’ cultures, way of life, freedoms, and their pride in conquering and treating non-Muslims as dhimmis beneath them. We see it from Malaysia to Iran to Saudi Arabia to Sudan, Nigeria, etc. The Saudis, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, Iran, Turkey fund mosques, Islamic schools, so many Muslim Organizations.
Another thing I hear often from apologists is that the Muslim Brotherhood’s intentions for America to be Islamic and Sharia law “has been debunked” while Islamic groups and some Muslim politicians, let alone many imams, have outright said so.
The apologists’ position will come back to bite them unless they like it and submit. As this professor Dustin J. Byrd writes in his book, he’s already adding post-secularism and spewing the false history that Islam and the OIC peddles.
I pre-ordered Robert’s book. Anti-free speech, anti liberalism Keith
Ellison can live in a prison of his own making…totalitarianism.