“The district court is of the opinion that the speech expresses a clear contempt for people of the Muslim creed. It implies that Muslims would generally be pedophiles and that pedophilia would be part of the religion of Islam.”
How would anyone get such an idea? Maybe from the fact, as recorded in Islamic tradition, that Muhammad consummated his marriage with (i.e., raped) Aisha when she was nine, and the resultant fact that child marriage is accepted in wide swaths of the Islamic world. Child marriage has abundant attestation in Islamic tradition and law.
Turkey’s directorate of religious affairs (Diyanet) said in January 2018 that under Islamic law, girls as young as nine can marry.
“Islam has no age barrier in marriage and Muslims have no apology for those who refuse to accept this” — Ishaq Akintola, professor of Islamic Eschatology and Director of Muslim Rights Concern, Nigeria
“There is no minimum marriage age for either men or women in Islamic law. The law in many countries permits girls to marry only from the age of 18. This is arbitrary legislation, not Islamic law.” — Dr. Abd Al-Hamid Al-‘Ubeidi, Iraqi expert on Islamic law
There is no minimum age for marriage and that girls can be married “even if they are in the cradle.” — Dr. Salih bin Fawzan, prominent cleric and member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious council
“Islam does not forbid marriage of young children.” — Pakistan’s Council of Islamic Ideology
Hadiths that Muslims consider authentic record that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:
“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.
Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.
Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:
The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”
According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.
“64-year-old man is convicted of satire about Islam on Facebook,” translated from “64-åring döms för satirbild om islam på Facebook,” Fria Tider, July 4, 2018 (thanks to Denny):
A 64-year-old man in Skåne Hörby was reported by the Network Inspector after posting a satirical image about Islam on Facebook. Now the man has been sentenced to a fine for the breach of acceptable opinion against the public.
The satirical image was drawn by the cartoonist Jan-Erik Ander and shows two men with beards and turbans. One man is holding a pram with a small child, and the other asks: “Grandchild?”
“No, this is my new wife!,” the man with the baby carriage answers.
The 64-year-old man posted the image on February 21, 2017 in a closed Facebook group, in which users discussed childhood marriage in Islam. In a comment on the picture, the man wrote that Muslims were “pedophiles, they must be stopped and given no access to Europe.”
The report was filed in October by the tax-funded Network Inspector. The police investigated the 64-year-old after consulting his “contact person” Robin Enander of the Left-wing Legal Affairs Front.
In a hearing at the police station in Hörby, the man acknowledged the facts, but denied committing any crime.
“It was mostly fun, it was not meant so maliciously. I usually comment with humor and I thought it was humor. I posted the image because it was humorous,” he said, among other things.
Court prosecutor Mathias Larsson charged the man for both the satirical image and his commentary on the image. According to the prosecutor, the post indicated that the 64-year-old “threatened or expressed disagreement with the public or another group of persons on the basis of race, color, national or ethnic origin or creed.”
Lund’s District Court made the same assessment of “the entire text, with both text and image.”
“The district court is of the opinion that the speech expresses a clear contempt for people of the Muslim creed. It implies that Muslims would generally be pedophiles and that pedophilia would be part of the religion of Islam. It has also been devised in an abusive and inconsiderate manner, and does not invite some profound religion-critical discussion,” the court wrote.
The crime was not serious, the district court determined, as it gave the man a conditional sentence with 60 daily fines of SEK 50 for hatred against the public.
762x51FMJ says
Getting married under sharia and going fishing are actually quite similar.
Once you marry the fish, you can scrape the seaweed off her face and see what she looks like..
If she is ugly you can say I divorce you 3 times
And throw the fish back in.
J D S says
Well what can I say…..this Is Swedeistan….and I feel sorrowful for the man who was fined for depicting THE TRUTH about Islam. I would say that I feel sorrowful for Sweden becoming Swedeistan but when a person or a nation allows themselves to fall..stay that…JUMP into a fire then there comes no sympathy.
Melinda says
Very true
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Has Charlie Hebdo been banned in Sweden yet ?
Who knows if they are issuing fines to the deceased staff posthumously.
Sam says
Screw Sweden. They deserve Islam.
I wonder what happened to the Viking spirit or was it fake history?
Vlad says
To the best of my knowledge:
Vikings went into battle AFTER the chewed a “toad stool mushroom”. This information came to me by a Danish friend. The poison endowed them with ferocity and a believe in their invincibility.
So, maybe they ought to grow Toad Stools and use them as ingredients in “Viking Meat Balls” ????
David says
Pork meat balls, presumably?
Antonin Dlouhy says
The mushroom alleged to have been used by “Vikings” was fly agaric (Amanita muscaria). That’s a very old tale, probably arising out of shamanic use of Amanita by the Lapps, but I can tell you from (a) the majority of academic opinion and (b) personal experience that it’s highly unlikely that warriors would find much use for a highly incapacitating hallucinogenic. Lots of other alternatives if you think Scandinavians need druggy Dutch courage, but it’s the Muslims who gave us the word “hashish” – Google its origins.
Toadstool is just English for any ugly and potentially dangerous mushroom.
Emilie Green says
The court said, “It implies that Muslims would generally be pedophiles and that pedophilia would be part of the religion of Islam.”
It The guy’s doofus lawyer didn’t enter those Islamic facts (which Roberts retails above) into evidence?
“Acceptable opinion” Orwellian much?
This and the dental assistant’s assessed fine should translate in more votes for Swedish Democrat party in the Sept 9 election.
Kessler says
Sweden is broken. It has officially submitted to Islamic blasphemy laws and the Swedes are either to stupid to understand the consequences or have a genuine desire to destroy their own country. Sad. At least the Danes seem to have woken up in time and are less afraid to show pride in their vastly superior culture
Mockingjay says
– Actually, I think one MAJOR reason why the Danes have woken up is because they can watch very closeby what is happening in their neighbouring country…
Anne Smith says
Sweden cowered in the wings during the second world war, claiming to be “neutral.”
They do not have the stomach for a fight, even when it is for their own survival.
gravenimage says
Sweden could not have won in a fight against Nazi Germany. Their being officially neutral allowed them to do things like save the entire Jewish population of Denmark. They could not have done that if they were under Nazi occupation as well.
FYI says
muhammed said…
“the divine inspirations do not come to me on any beds except that of Aisha”
Bukhari 47:755
Aisha?Aisha was a little girl when perfect mo “married” her..when she was SIX years old.
Yes,that’s right:Little Aisha was a 6 year old “woman”.
What sort of middle aged man marries a little girl?
sahih muslim 3309:muhammed and his SIX YEAR OLD bride.
“Allah’s messenger married me when I was 6 years old”
Perhaps the Lund court is not familiar with what islamic teachings say regarding its prophet…
Apart from being a mass-murderer{abu dawud4390},self-confessed terrorist{bukhari 4:52:220},slave trader{sahih muslim3901},and admitted fraudster{al tabari 6:111},perfect muhammed….
Stoned women to death for adultery muslim 4206
was a committed polygamist bukhari 1:5:268{…when he wasn’t stealing the wives of other men…note the hypocrisy of perfect mo with respect to him stoning women for adultery when he did it himself..}
indulged in pederasty bukhari 58:236 and kept women a s sex slaves{by koranic permission k33:50}
perhaps somebody should send these islamic teachings to the court:see if they are smart enough to figure it out….
I’m off to draw one of my own private(off internet)cartoon of Slim Shiddy…mo’s alter ego…..there are hundreds of thm …but which is the real mo…please stand up,please stand up..
john spielman says
yup!! muhammed was a self professed old reprobate demon possessed mass murderer thief/robber liar sexual deviant necrophiliac and pedophile pervert
Benedict says
“Brottet är inte ringa, fastslår tingsrätten” is incorrectly translated: “The crime was not serious, the district court determined” – in Swedish it is the opposite. –
Anyhow; hope the district court agrees that marrying nine year olds is a crime, and that this praxis should not be licensed by any “sacred” book.
Michael Copeland says
It is like a sort of surreal Monty Python sketch.
Les says
Lol, shouldn’t laugh, if I didn’t I would cry ?
Anyone know how to contact Mr Spencer direct? I have genuine concern about his website, with regards to policy of O2 ( the huge telecommunications company) … ?
Westman says
Click on, “Contact Us” on the JW page. If it’s important Mr. Spencer will get your message.
gravenimage says
+1
Les says
Thanks guys, found it. Was looking for the small case ‘contact us’ button …. it a little bigger ?… ‘couldn’t see the wood for the trees’ ????
mortimer says
Court prosecutor Mathias Larsson and the judge are clueless. ISLAM INDEED PERMITS PEDOPHILIA and MOHAMMED PROMOTED PEDOPHILIA in a hadith in which he encouraged a man to ‘marry’ a little girl, so that he might ‘play with her’.
The man thought it unseemly to marry a child… unlike Mohammed!
Court prosecutor Mathias Larsson and the judge should be ashamed for PROMOTING PEDOPHILIA by refusing to allow the CRITICISM of PEDOPHILIA.
THE SWEDES ARE ABSURD and SELF-ARMORMED against learning about Islam.
gravenimage says
Sweden: Man fined $342 for posting satirical cartoon about child marriage in Islam on Facebook
A 64-year-old man in Skåne Hörby was reported by the Network Inspector after posting a satirical image about Islam on Facebook. Now the man has been sentenced to a fine for the breach of acceptable opinion against the public.
……………………
So now saying anything critical of child marriage in Sweden is a “breach of acceptable opinion against the public”? *Grotesque* state support for evil.
Rufolino says
Political correctness has driven Sweden mad.
Mark Swan says
Yes Rufolino—it will do the same to anyone—every where it is practiced.
David says
So presumably now the discussion about paedophilia and child marriage cannot be had under any circumstances? Another closed subject. It looks like Freedom of Speech is being curtailed everywhere that Muslims preside.
Imagine if it was a verbal joke: a paedophile walking down the street sees a fellow paedophile with a pram containing a young baby. “Grandchild?” “No this is my new wife” has a crime being committed now?
Les says
Thanks guys, found it. Was looking for the small case ‘contact us’ button …. it a little bigger ?… ‘couldn’t see the wood for the trees’ ????
FYI says
Cartoons are an important aspect of free speech.
I have my own…
muhammed in a snow storm{blank page}
muhammed:the first man on the moon { picture of the moon with a dot on it}
muhammed discovering the Theory of Relativity{pic of Einstein with a turban}
muhammed squaring the circle
muhammed asking the mountain to come to him..but the mountain won’t budge{it will for Moses..}
James Lincoln says
Regarding the cartoon, sometimes you laugh because it’s funny, sometimes you laugh because it’s true.
abad says
What Sweden really needs to do is this:
Round up its entire Moslem population and deport them to Syria.
Tear down every single mosque Islamic center and school on Swedish soil.
Ban all Moslems from entering Sweden’s borders ever again.
Sweden is not the best country for Moslems to be.
Mockingjay says
`… the speech expresses a clear contempt for people of the Muslim creed…`
– Yeah? – SO THE HELL WHAT?
– SINCE WHEN IS IT WORTHY OF A FINE TO EXPRESS CONTEMPT?
In a free nation, we should be able to express contempt for anyone we damn well choose to!
No – we are not allowed to show `contempt of court` – even if you FASCIST JUDGES BLOODY WELL deserve it…
gravenimage says
+1
DogOnPorch says
Muhammad had sex with little girls…when not killing poets and dogs.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Benedict says
Sweden is overwhelmingly run by women, so also the Swedish court system: http://www.dagensjuridik.se/2014/02/kvinnorna-har-gatt-om-mannen-i-domarkaren
gravenimage says
Benedict, Sweden has never even had a female prime minister. Some idiot there said that Sweden was a “feminist society”–and many have interpreted this to mean that men are barred from office and that all of those in positions of power are women. This is, of course, absurd.
For instance, the prosecutor in this case was Mathias Larsson. “Mathias” is not a woman’s name.
Benedict says
G: You must be very naïve if you don’t understand that the taking over of the administration by women in Sweden has nothing to do with the problems of Islamization in that country.
Benedict says
PS: Also with respect to “Mathias Larsson”: men in Scandinavia are increasingly modeled on and of women.
Benedict says
don’t understand = believe
gravenimage says
Women have not taken over the administration of Sweden, as I noted.
dan christensen says
It is a remarkable fact that you in Swedish TV you almost always watch female faces. Even in technical oriented shows. It is a bit unusal to see and hear female journalists in ‘technical’ features. In my estimate, two out of three faces on Swedish TV are female.
It is something that reminds me of the British Dr. Johnsons famous remark:
‘I told him I had been that morning at a meeting of the people called Quakers, where I had heard a woman preach. Johnson: “Sir, a woman’s preaching is like a dog’s walking on his hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all.”
Boswell: Life’
No offense intended, Susan B..
David says
Dan, I reckon one out of three faces on UK television are black. This is the PC society we are now living in.
David says
I meant to say in adverts
gravenimage says
Dan, it you have such a low view of women, why don’t you just convert to Islam?
dan christensen says
What the Swedish government is doing, makes a mockery of ‘free speech’. Germany, Britain and other EU countries are on the same path.
In a futile attempt to save their tainted honour, the European politicians have agreed to a silent pact on pacifying all oppostion to the islamic invasion; turning themselves technically into traitors to humanitarian principles.
Unfortunately the EU does not permit its peoples to rise in arms against unreasonable government as the American constitution does:-(
OldFatBaldSociallyIneptRon says
A satirical cartoon depicting middle aged Catholic priests bouncing nine year old alter boys on their laps wouldn’t have received a fine.
gravenimage says
True.
Sam says
The Qur’an must be fully prosecuted. Because it contains a lot of statements threatening death and murder and incitement to hatred and racism. This book must be prosecuted and brought out of Europe
Steve says
Sweden is scum, there’s no getting around it. An evil anti-white racist-rapist traitor state that serves ethnocide, Islam, and crime. They turned a nordic haven into a boiling hell, just for the hell of it. Satan-Shithole-Swedistan should be its name.
Only righteous liberation and cleansing occupation can maybe save it now, or patriotic revolution. Given the national ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ paralysing the country, the former is the more likely necessity.