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Switzerland: Muslim leader complains that “Islam is being reduced to problematic elements such as terror”

Jul 17, 2018 11:22 am By Robert Spencer

Who is responsible for this reductionism? Pascal Gemperli would doubtless say that “Islamophobes” are responsible, when in reality jihad terrorists are wholly and solely responsible.

“Muslim umbrella group warns against stigmatisation of Islam,” SwissInfo, July 17, 2018:

The Federation of Islamic Organisations in Switzerland has warned against associating crimes with a certain religion.

In an interview with the Neue Zürcher Zeitung on Tuesday, federation spokesperson Pascal Gemperli said that someone’s religious affiliation was not a determining factor in crime.

Muslim teenagers are not disproportionately represented in juvenile crime proceedings, according to Gemperli….

Many phenomena, such as honour killings, could not be explained by a single reason but must be understood within the multi-faceted context of religious, historical and social influences, Gemperli said.

‘Islam belongs to Switzerland’

The Federation of Islamic Organisations warned against the stigmatisation of Islam in Switzerland, pointing out that since 2013 the number of cases of discrimination against Muslims had more than doubled.

“Islam in its diversity is increasingly being reduced to problematic elements such as terror and radicalisation,” Gemperli said.

Since 9/11, Muslims in Switzerland have had a reputation problem and it was sometimes even suggested that they cannot be “real Swiss”, he said. “It is therefore important to realise that Islam belongs to Switzerland.”

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  1. Mary says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 11:25 am

    Islam does not belong anywhere on this earth.

    • boakai ngombu says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 1:16 pm

      that’s correct. people need to discriminate; they need to discern the good from wicked, the helpful from the useless.

      islam (subjugation) has little to offer the world.

      • Nige31 says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 7:20 am

        islam (subjugation) has NOTHING to offer the world.

    • J D S says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 9:28 am

      WHEN THE CRIME FITS THE RELIGION….BLAME THE RELIGION!
      That should be simple enough for d everyone to understand. These people who are always making excuses for islam will soon find themselves and their homeland mired down in a bog that is sucking them down into the depths of a hell of their own making.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 1:22 am

      We’ve been “warned” as always. Gemperli is blowing the usual ill wind out of his butt.

  2. Paul says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 am

    Why don’t we see this happening with Christianity or Judaism ? I base my educated conclusion on world facts. Islam will be and has always been a cult of death spread by threats and lies. Practicing Christians do not preach to kill apostates, ever. If islam wants to be reformed into a peaceful religion they had better delete the Qur’an from this planet.

    • J D S says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 9:33 am

      One of their own clerics has said that if apostasy had been removed then Islam would not exist today….FEAR has held these people for centuries…but FEAR also works for them…..by keeping the public on edge….

  3. James Lincoln says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 11:32 am

    Moving forward, the only countries that will be essentially free of Islam will be the Visegrad group of Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia.

    The United States still has a chance if President Trump gets a firm handle on the situation and the current situation is reversed.

  4. elee says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:02 pm

    Can anyone point me to something ELSE that they’ve invented in a millennium and a half, you know, while we were having Renaissance, Reformation, Industrial Revolution, humanism modernity and penicillin &c &c &c? Didn’t think so.

  5. Diane Harvey says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:03 pm

    “Who is responsible for this reductionism?”

    “But, Boris, Moose and Squirrel are reading our holy books. They’re catching on.”

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 4:34 pm

      Yep.

    • HugoHackenbush says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 7:19 pm

      Popeye caught on well before Moose and Squirrel: https://youtu.be/QIwUpvf2jXY

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 1:57 pm

        Yes! Excellent stuff, Hugo. I saw this on TV as a child.

        And while it is, of course, in most aspects a silly cartoon, it is not wrong about Muslims pirating ships and seizing and enslaving women.

        Here’s another fine cartoon from back when Infidels understood what violent Muslims were all about and weren’t afraid to say so:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VVY-iSI69c

        This with Porky Pig as the hero must also have pissed off any Mohammedans who saw it. It also features a suicide bomber–and this
        was back in 1941!

  6. Tom says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    Nowhere in his statements does he condemn the terrorist jihad that is exclusively Islamic. Nor does he likewise condemn the Islamic practice of “honor killing” in fact he actually provides his opinion that religious and historical support for that barbaric Islamic practice exists.

    If there are indeed those in Islam who wish to prevent peaceful Muslims being harassed then perhaps they should step up and condemn the radicals and their supporters within the Muslim community, of which there are many.

    Then, and only then, can they reproach the rest of us about any negative backlash against the Muslim community.

    So either put up, or shut up.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 4:38 pm

      Good point, Tom. He does not actually oppose Jihad–he is just enraged that the Infidels have noticed it.

  7. Rarely says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:28 pm

    Learning to eat chocolate while winding your watch and yodeling doesn’t make you Swiss. Well then what does?
    The question of Nationality gets a little confusing for Europe where so little immigration has existed for the last two hundred years. Only France (Algerian immigrants) and Britain (immigrants from the Commonwealth) have any experience in the area at all. European countries are not known for being particularly tolerance towards the minorities they did have.. By contrast, in Canada and the U.S. almost everyone is of immigrant stock originally and virtually every group on the planet has significant representation and there is still friction.
    Switzerland, at least, is historically a mixture of French, German and Italian groups but it will be interesting to see how European countries deal with the problem — brand new for them.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 4:39 pm

      Muslims rarely assimilate in the US or Canada, either. Islam is a conquering, supremacist creed.

      • Rarely says

        Jul 17, 2018 at 4:58 pm

        Assimilation is often slow for many groups — especially where there is a language difference. However, these folks threaten never to assimilate. It will be interesting to see how it plays out in Europe where there is almost no experience with immigration.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm

          It also depends on *how* groups fail to assimilate. If they are just slow to learn the language and adopt other foods or clothing, that is one thing.

          If, however, their not assimilating involves “marrying” children, raping Infidels, and waging violent Jihad, this is a far less innocent…

      • HugoHackenbush says

        Jul 17, 2018 at 7:30 pm

        Typo correction: ,,,supremacist screed.

  8. eduardo odraude says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:37 pm

    Dear Muslim: Your own core source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure

    We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up

    The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad also took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed, according to core Islamic texts.

    The following video begins with the words “Dear Muslim,” spoken by a former Muslim who goes by the moniker “Brother Ismaa’eel.” As you will see, Brother Ismaa’eel, who is fluent in Arabic and English, displays and very clearly explains in this video the primary Islamic source texts where those actions of Muhammad are described by early Muslims themselves:


  9. Geoffrey Britain says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:54 pm

    Switzerland: Muslim leader complains that “Islam is being reduced to problematic elements such as terror”

    Translation;

    Switzerland: Muslim leader complains that “Islam’s murderous core tenets are gradually being exposed”

    • Frank Scarn says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 1:04 pm

      100% correct. And our continued response should be to widen even further the exposure.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 4:44 pm

      +1

  10. ciudadano says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    If you reduce Islam to terror or radicalization you are missing a lot of wonderful stuff: FGM, women oppression, child brides, religious intolerance, religious violence, theocratic governments, sharia police, religious discrimination, gender segregation, animal mistreatment, demographic explosion, collapsed societies, slavery, arts censure, science censure, literature censure, human rights violations, free speech suppression, public flogging, public stoning, honor killing, public lynching by fanatic crowds, etc.

    • ciudadano says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      and modern, feminist, inclusive Sharia law

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      Yes–just what I was going to mention, ciudadano. Probably the most awful aspect of Islam for Infidels is violent Jihad–but it is hardly the end of its horrors.

    • tim gallagher says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 8:11 pm

      Great list of the wonderful gifts of Islam to the world, ciudadano. Where’s the good aspect that Islam contributes to humanity? It doesn’t exist. Islam is just neverending evil and barbarity as your list indicates. I agree, gravenimage, that, for non-Muslims, the main problem with Islam is that we are all in their target sights with their jihad terrorism. This Muslim spokesman is a lying piece of crap who is trying to muddy the waters. Out here in Australia, a couple of years back, we had this Muslim TV commentator, Waleed Aly, (still on mainstream TV very regularly) who said that Islamic terrorist attacks in western countries were merely an “irritation”, or words to that effect. You know, just part of multicultural life now that we’ve let Muslims in. No big deal. Yu know, why are you people in the west getting so upset? Terror attacks are just a minor “irritation”. Such a vile comment. Waleed Aly still seems popular with many people and was even given a mainstream TV award to show how embracing of Muslims we Australians are; he’s a sort of token, popular Muslim). I must say I felt he should have been sacked the moment he made such a vile comment. This Muslim spokesman in this report saying garbage like, “honour killings…must be understood within the multi-faceted context, blah, blah” is trying to complicate things and muddy the waters. Such typical bullshit from this taqiyya merchant. Muslim spokesmen like Waleed Aly and this Swiss Muslim seem to me to be trying to get us to accept the foulness of Islam as just a normal part of our societies from now on. I hope not, at least in the long run.

      • IanB says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 5:04 am

        Similarly, Sadiq Khan, the mendacious Mayor of London, has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city”. What hope for the city of London with a mayor who says that?

        • Giacomo Latta says

          Jul 18, 2018 at 1:48 pm

          Well, then, it’s time to make London small again. Banning Islam should encourage a whole lot of rapists and terrorists to leave. London won’t be fun again anymore for them.

        • tim gallagher says

          Jul 18, 2018 at 7:43 pm

          Yes, IanB, terror attacks are just “part of life in a big city” and are just an “irritation” if you have Muslims in your country. It’s not part of life with Buddhists, Jews, Christians or anyone else. These spokesmen for Islam do seem to me to be trying to acclimatise us to putting up with terrorism and other Muslim evil as if it were normal. I often think about how much more peaceful Australia used to be and think, did our idiotic politicians think to themselves, “Oh, it’s all a bit boring and peaceful, why don’t we spice things up by bringing violent Muslims into the country.” It’s the only way I can explain the idiocy, especially for the past 15-20 years or so when the problems Muslims were causing were pretty bloody obvious. I agree, Giacomo, get rid of Islam and the problems it brings.

    • Jay says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 8:46 am

      Yes…and don’t forget the wonderful low IQ’ s ( in the high 60’s) and the centuries of inbreeding which produced high percentages of severely defective people. The health care costs of deformities, mental retardation ( beyond the everyday retarded Jihadists) in the UK is destroying health care. The average Muslim costs UK taxpayers $ 100K each per year in welfare costs plus $250 K each per year to pay for deformed and/or severely retarded people.

      • tim gallagher says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 7:51 pm

        Jay, I don’t if Muslims are costing the UK taxpayer that much money in health costs, but I certainly can never see any positive for our societies from having let Muslims migrate to our countries. It just seems such a negative for our societies in so many ways. It makes no sense for our political leaders to continue down this path of letting Muslims in when it is such a negative for the country.

        • tim gallagher says

          Jul 18, 2018 at 7:54 pm

          I meant to write “I don’t know if Muslims are costing”, etc, in my comment above.

    • ciudadano says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 10:47 am

      How come I forgot the most tolerant features of Islam: blasphemy laws, which can send you to jail for life just for quoting some unconvinient quran´s verses or making the wrong questions, and death penalty for leaving Islam.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 1:50 am

      ciudadano…what a novel and exciting fart speech bubble Gemperli has loaded onto the Swiss dinner plate! It reads “YOU OWN IT NOW!!! Heh, heh, heh! Inflammatory responses are in no one’s interest!”

      In fact it is in the world’s interest to halt an insult to the human race.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jul 19, 2018 at 2:02 am

        Brood parasites: lay their eggs in the nests of other birds. These species are obligate brood parasites, meaning that they only reproduce in this fashion. The best-known example is the European common cuckoo.

  11. eduardo odraude says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    The Federation of Islamic Organisations in Switzerland has warned against associating crimes with a certain religion.”

    What about Jim Jones’ religion? What about that Japanese religious group that used Sarin gas in the Japanese transit system? What about the other religious groups that proved to be totalitarian and criminal toward those who resist?

    Being a “religion” does not automatically mean that your particular religious view is not associated with criminality. That is one of the biggest lies Islam apologists use.

    No, as to criminality, not to mention the totalitarianism that criminality aims to establish, Islam must be evaluated on the merits, not on the mere fact that its members make Islam their religion.

    And on the merits, Islam, as evidenced by the teachings in its core texts, and by the example of Islam’s prime exemplar, Muhammad, and by polls of Muslims around the globe, and by human rights conditions in Muslim-majority nations, is an aggressive, expansionist, violent totalitarian movement. That cannot be said of any of the other major religions (which perhaps is why Islam apologists can sometimes get away with statements urging that a particular religion should not be associated with criminality).

    • eduardo odraude says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 1:10 pm

      In short, whether a worldview is religious or non-religious, theistic, polytheistic, or atheistic, is irrelevant to the question of whether that worldview is criminal. The character of a particular worldview can only be determined by observation. There have been totalitarian criminal religions (Islam is an example), and there have been totalitarian criminal atheist and polytheist movements.

      • IanB says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 5:08 am

        Superb comments Eduardo. Absolutely spot on.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jul 19, 2018 at 1:58 am

        Good one, Eduardo. I feel a lot of copying and pasting coming on!

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 5:01 pm

      Good point, Eduardo. Religions can be evil and violent, and Islam is the largest such faith today, threatening everyone in the world.

  12. Ren says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    Islam IS terror.

    Sahih Al-Bukhari 4.52, 220
    Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)…

  13. granddaddy says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    This is the first time I’ve heard terror being described as a “problematic element”. I sounds like he’s trying to be philosophical, which, as Islamic philosophy goes, is just an erudite way of justifying their “religion”. Is murder a “problematic element” in any other religion? Maybe the question is not, Is it a religion? Maybe the question is, Is murder good when somebody’s “god” says it’s good? Is rape good when somebody’s “god” says it’s good? Is deceit, slavery, hate, etc…? The police have the idea that this is just criminal behavior and so they deal with it that way. But it’s only criminal behavior from our point of view. And this so-called “religion” is being taught to future generations as a good thing. So this cops-and-robbers game could go on forever. It should be seen for what it is: a totalitarian, fascist political system of world conquest by whatever means possible hiding behind a lot of ignorance and confusion about what is and is not “religion”.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 2:09 am

      Who gives a hoot if you can just kick the can down the road? Life is short.

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jul 19, 2018 at 10:50 am

        Citizen Warrior just put out a good article:

        What Possible Good Does it do to Say Anything Negative About Islam, Even If It’s True?
        http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2007/11/what-possible-good-does-it-do-to-say.html
        The article has advice as to how to open up this important topic up to your fellows.

        There’s also a link within the article describing the difference between ORTHODOX and HETERODOX muslims:
        http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/07/orthodox-versus-heterodox-muslims.html

        • Carol the 1st says

          Jul 19, 2018 at 11:07 am

          HETERODOX means:
          Not in agreement with accepted beliefs, especially in church doctrine or dogma. You can delete the word “church” and that’s a great definition for what has been termed “moderate” Muslims. It’s accurate and makes the distinction very clear.

          And so the bowl is full of hummus rather than poison. It’s still a crock.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 21, 2018 at 12:42 am

          Yes–a very good site.

  14. dan christensen says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 2:32 pm

    To quote Tom Lehrer, with a minor change:

    islam is like a sewer – what you get out of it depends on what you put into it.

  15. Lydia Church says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    islam doesn’t belong to Switzerland or anywhere else except hell!

    It is ‘reduced’ to terrorism and other negative elements because that is what it is!

    • balam says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 5:38 am

      In fact,the Muslims mean to say is that’ SWITZERLAND BELONGS TO ISLAM AND MUSLIMS.’

  16. Ric says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 3:49 pm

    Whining about the realities of this apocalyptic, nihilistic cult feigning religion but is an evil cult. Muslims, of course, have sold the lie to the foolhardy, imbecilic and politically correct Left/Democrats and every imbecilic, gullible, aspirant, leftist totalitarian. While other world religions evolved Islam embraced the Dark Age of its inception; zealots of mass-murder, Antisemitism, misogynism, the Quran, a hate-filled edict of those diverse of this faux-religion, cult. The lefts’ alliance with this perfidious, malignant entity is cohesive because of a shared wanton objective, the downfall of the West, specifically, the US Republic and the democratic State of Israel. The EU, UK, and others are subjects of Islam, yet this Muslim weenie has the audaciousness to wallow and whimper about what he labels, reducing Islam to problematic elements such as terror. It is utterly mindboggling; it could, also, be uttered by the like of Obama or Hillary.

  17. DHazard says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 4:53 pm

    “Islam belongs to Switzerland”

    What does that mean? If it’s literally true then I suggest Switzerland should relinquish ownership right away and apologize to Muslims. I guess he meant that Islam and Switzerland have a close relationship. They don’t. The native Swiss hate Muslims and Islam just like everybody else. That’s why they banned minarets.

    “Islam in its diversity is increasingly being reduced to problematic elements such as terror and radicalisation”.

    Another attempt by a partially brainwashed Muslim to explain away the trail of death and loss that follows Islam wherever it goes. They should really change the phrase “no true Scotsman” to “no true Muhammadan” since it’s a logical fallacy that’s almost synonymous with modern day Islamic apologetics.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 17, 2018 at 5:04 pm

      What he means is “Switzerland belongs to Islam”–or so they hope.

  18. FYI says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 6:11 pm

    islam is like the seriously deranged,antisocial,psycopathic school bully in the classroom of world religions.

    No other cult compares to it in its intolerance,evil and viciousness!

    Only a complete imbecile would say “islam belongs in switzerland”.
    No it does not.It belongs in the pit of hell where it came from.

    islam: a violent murderous cult whose god “allah” is an antiChristian,antiSemitic{koran 9:30},misogynistic,theologically-challenged deceiver{koran 3:54} whose self-confessed false “prophet”{al tabari 6:111}was a
    mass-murdering{Abu dawud 4390}slave trading{sahih muslim 3901}polygamous psychopath who preached violence and hatred and lived a life of unbridled,commandment-of-God wickedness.

    And that “perfect” koran which is riddled with theological errors that muslims are unable to understand?It was given to muhammed the mass-murderer, in a cave with no witnesses with the help of the “angel” Jibreel who in islam is called”the enemy of the Jews”

    So,an antisemitic god “allah”.. gives his antisemitic “scripture”.. to an antisemitic “prophet” with the help of … an antisemitic “angel”;Logic,reason and theology are not found in islam are they?

    Only the incredibly blind,the stupid and the theologically illiterate could fail to see through the fakery of islam.No wonder it attracts the intellectually challenged.

    false god,false prophet,false scripture.

    islam; a house of cards.. built on a foundation of sand ..in an earthquake zone.

  19. HugoHackenbush says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 7:44 pm

    If Islam becomes ascendant in Switzerland then this song by the Gershwins will potentially be deemed prescient (from “Strike Up The Band”): https://youtu.be/a-A9UUqsThE

  20. warmac9999 says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    The basic problem is that Islam is not a religion. It is a violent and totalitarian political ideology that masquerades as a religion until it achieve national dominance. The all religious pretense is dropped and sharia law comes forth with a servant tongue.

  21. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jul 17, 2018 at 10:15 pm

    “… Who is responsible for this reductionism? … jihad terrorists are wholly and solely responsible…”

    That’s right. We have been thrown into this war against jihad militants, enemy combatants who show total disregard for rules of engagement and who crow about their victory after slaughtering civilians. These militants have responsibility for the collateral damage to reputations and trust that has spread to the broader Muslim born community.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 11:17 am

      The “broader Muslim born community” is complicit and gains from the transparent evil activity of the opportunistic criminals among it. This is at the expense, dignity, and lives of others and is thus immoral and not amoral. You can’t worship God and Mammon.

  22. MFritz says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 2:47 am

    All criticism of islam will go away (slowly) once a CLEAR MAJORITY of muslims speak out against islamic terrorism. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 3:30 am

      Yep.

    • Eur says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 7:45 am

      I believe that the only way to stop terrorism and Islamic political supremacism is secularization. Right now the vast majority of Muslims not only do not understand secular societies but despise them.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 18, 2018 at 2:26 pm

        Demanding that peaceful religions be crushed makes no sense, Eur.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 2:17 am

      Will that include such things as FGM terrorism etc.?

      • Carol the 1st says

        Jul 19, 2018 at 2:23 am

        Or don’t such “terrors” count if it’s only within their own little circle of captive baby girls? Islam has earned top spot in history’s trash heap.

  23. nicholas william tesdorf says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 3:28 am

    Islam and Muslims have only themselves to blame for the general attitude to Islam. They have worked at it for 1400 years and created the World’s most vile social and legal system Muslims belong nowhere except perhaps the Arabian Peninsula’s most desolate areas. If Hadrian had been able to complete his wall across the northern end of the Arabian Peninsula, we would know nothing of Islam.

  24. Ronen says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 5:08 am

    Apart from ugly values, stupid beliefs, cruel practices and violent deeds, what is there in Islam?

    • Jay says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 10:06 am

      Islam reminds me of Little Red Riding Hood who came across thr friendly sheep. Then he removed his disguise and exposed pure evil intent….terrifying!!! The disguise in Islam is ‘religion’…its underlying intents as described in the Koran is pure evil. Wake up everyone….Islam needs to be de-listed as a religion and categorized as an evil Totalitarian ideology with the stated clear goal of destroying everything that is non-Islamic.Are we going to let a sub-human, low intellect people destroy us before we wake up and destroy the threat? Think about why they are so successful…it is the practice of deception and terror…yes…we should all be afraid of Islam ie. Islamophobic. That is what their goal is…to terrorize us into submission. The underlying momentum that has awoken Islam from its 7th century grave has come from the Oil states in the Middle East spending their vast wealth on exporting their culture…building mosques ( to inculcate their drones) and madrassas to brainwash their youth.

  25. No Muzzies Here says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 7:31 am

    With a name and face like that, I’m betting that he is a convert. Recent converts practice their new religion with intense fervor and the complete absence of rationality.

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 2:28 am

      Whatever he is, he sure is kinky.

  26. WPM says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 8:03 am

    Islam draws people who either love having power over people they feel superior over {everyone non-Moslem or not Moslem enough} or people who just like violence for violence sake. The Koran ,Hadiths, and Sharia law give them license to practice their beliefs .If a religious practices of the past like human sacrifice ,cannibalism , are not acceptable, how can we respect Islam,s child brides ,slavery ,honor killing, rape , wife beating, thief from non-believers, organize violence towards other religious ,violence to women in Moslem communities all given license and blind obedience these acts are good according to their holy books and preached openly by their holy men in their mosques?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 18, 2018 at 2:30 pm

      +1

    • Carol the 1st says

      Jul 19, 2018 at 12:02 pm

      Christopher Hitchens concluded the ‘religion’ was worthless and it’s adherents enjoyed very much the arrogance it lent them and gave no evidence of ever tiring of this.

      He was told by condescending imams that because he was not fluent in Arabic he could not possibly grasp the subtle (of course) grandeur of Islam. Perhaps Christopher’s conclusions would have been different if his study had been embellished with grandiose music and gently smiling hijab’ed handmaidens serving hummus along with the baloney?

  27. RP says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 10:59 am

    Islam is Terror , look at History. Simple.

  28. infidel says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    ISLAM DOES NOT BELONG IN THE WEST PERIOD.. OR ANY PART OF THE FREE WORLD FOR THAT MATTER!!

  29. Max says

    Jul 18, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    Didn’t the Nazis denied the Holocaust prior to the end of the war, and many Western leaders took their word for it? Well, it is happening all over again. The Muslims are using the same tactic, and once again many Western leaders believe them.

    Those that don’t learn from history and bound to repeat the mistake again.

  30. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 19, 2018 at 7:41 pm

    One hopes that ex-Muslim Ibn Warraq’s book “The Islam in Islamic Terrorism” is being translated quickly, whether officially or unofficially, into German and French, and circulated widely in Switzerland.. as well as in Germany and France!

    Many educated Swiss, Germans and French speak/ read English, but it always helps to understand something better if it is in your own tongue… and there are, I would guess, in Switzerland, Germany and France, not a few people who are *not* conversant in English but who *do* need to know about the malevolence of Islam.

    Likewise: ex-Muslim Sam Solomon’s books “The Mosque Exposed” and “Al-Hijra: the Islamic Doctrine of Immigration” *also* require to be swiftly translated, whether officially or unofficially, into the languages of every country in Western Europe – notably Dutch, German, French, Italian, Danish, Swedish, and Norwegian – and rapidly circulated. And if not the whole, then at least key passages and chapters, or good summaries.

    Frankly, if his ‘Al-Hijra’ or a summary thereof were translated into *Finnish* and into *Icelandic* it would be damn good idea, because then the people in those countries, where there are at present relatively *few* Muslims, would *know* why it would be worth their while to slap a complete ban on all further entry of Muslims.. and why they would be wise to *expel* those already present.

  31. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 19, 2018 at 8:00 pm

    Islam is **all about** fear. Not just fear… **terror**.

    Mohammed himself, in a Bukhari Hadith, is declared to have said, “I have been made victorious by terror”.

    There is a verse of the Quran that plainly commands – “Terrorise them”.

    A Sufi Muslim – yes, one of those lovely mystical Sufis that our western Useful Idiots like to go all gooey about – in India, one Sirhindi, said, of the subjugated Hindus, under Muslim rule, that “they must be terrified and trembling”. They were to be *kept in a state of fear*.

    And here is James Schall, a very astute Catholic theologian, discussing Isalmic State, and terror within Islam.

    http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/time-take-islamic-state-seriously

    “…Many outside Islam seek to separate “terror” and “Islam” as if they were, in their usage, independent or even opposed ideas. This latter view is almost impossible seriously to maintain in the light of Islamic history and the text of the Qur’an itself…”.

    And then, from a blog, this lucid essay, which analyses the way in which fear permeates the entire system of Islam: not only the fear – the terror – that mohammedan mobsters perpetrate against outsiders, but also the sheer terror that keeps everyone *inside* the Mob, in line.

    http://islamsfatalflaw.blogspot.com.au/2009/01/why-islam-is-different.html

    I quote – “Each generation’s most devout believers train a small percentage of the next generation’s most devout believers that it is OK to commit violence in the name of Islam. This becomes an endless cycle because, part of this training includes instructions to kill anyone who tries to modify or stop the teaching of this violence.

    “Because (1) these potential killers are trained everywhere within Islam and evenly distributed throughout the greater Islamic population (ummah) and (2) because they cannot be easily identified, it means any devout believer anywhere could be the next killer. Every Muslim is aware of this potential threat (fear) from these most devout believers. As a result all Muslims suffer from the same fear that drives the system.

    “The violence and fear created by these devout believers has a profound effect on Islam. It is at the core of what Islam has become.

    “The violence/fear cycle is responsible for all the irregularities of Islamic society. It is why Muslims seem so pious (fear of a negative response from the most devout believers). It is why Muslims don’t leave the faith and why they don’t integrate when they emigrate. (The killers are trained to kill anyone who leaves the faith).
    “It is why moderate Muslims never speak up (the killers are trained to kill anyone who questions the faith). It is why Muslims from Morocco to the Philippines riot over a handful of cartoons or a simple comment from the Pope. (The killers’ riot and others go along in order to look pious.)…”.

    “…Keep in mind that Muslims make up less than 10% of Western European population. Yet, even when Muslims only represent this small percentage of the general population, the potential presence of Islamic killers has had the effect, according to, Flemming Rose, of creating “self-imposed limits on expression that seemed to be closing in tighter.”…”.

    And here’s a brilliant passage –
    “The sad reality about Islam’s killers is this; Because Islam makes a continuous claim of religious legitimacy, Islam, as a system, can rely on a huge, unpaid, unseen, unorganized, individually acting, empowered to act, widely distributed group of highly motivated devout believers who are willing to kill in order to keep Islam the way it is.

    “These devout believers in reality represent an unconventional unseen phantom army. An army where no one needs orders and each soldier knows exactly what to do. An army where no one is really in control. An army as deadly as any on earth…”.

    Nonie Darwish, ex-Muslim, in her book about Sharia, “Cruel and Usual Punishment”, talks about *exactly* the same thing: the voluntary vigilantes, the sharia assassins. She calls them ‘allah’s enforcers”.

    In short: Got Muslims? Got Mosques? GOT JIHAD.

  32. dumbledoresarmy says

    Jul 19, 2018 at 8:17 pm

    ‘Pascal Gemperli’, leader of the ‘Federation of Islamic Organisations in Switzerland’ (I wonder, does this embrace both Sunnis and Shiites?), is manifestly, to judge from his name, a **convert**.

    He therefore needs to be asked, by some gutsy reporter, point blank, and in as public a place as possible – say, in an interview going ‘live’ to mainstream TV – **What** attracted you – raised in a non-Islamic belief system – to a cult that teaches that apostates and ‘blasphemers’ must be **killed**? (At that point, the questioner should cite the relevant Quran and Hadith passages, and refer to Mohammed’s approval of the assassination-murders of non-adherents – Abu Afak , Kab bin Ashraf, Asma bint Marwan – who had criticised/ mocked him and his cultists and his cult).

    He must be asked, preferably in as pubilc a forum as possible: WHY did you join a cult if you knew that, should you ‘down the track’ develop misgivings, or decide you wanted to leave, would **send assassins after you to KILL you**???

    He could be asked – DID you find out about the apostasy law of Islam, and the ‘blasphemy ‘ law of Islam, *before* or *after* you converted??

    He must be asked: do you *approve* of the murders of Theo Van Gogh and of the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists? They were carried out in obedience to Islamic diktats and the sunnah of Mohammed.

    He needs to be asked whether he agrees that Mohammed is *the* model of conduct, in every respect, for every pious Mohammedan. And *then* he must be confronted about Mohammed’s murder of Kinana of Khaybar and subsequent rape of Kinana’s widow, and he must be confronted about Mohammed’s marital rape of prepubescent or barely-pubescent Aisha, and asked: do *you* regard it as right, proper and good for a Muslim, if he can, to murder a non-Muslim man and then *rape* that man’s grieving widow on the very same day?

    Do *you* regard it as entirely right, good and proper to screw a nine-year-old child ‘wife’?? Do you approve of forced/ child ‘marriage’ and sex slavery, and would you, if you could, alter Swiss law so that it became legal for Muslims to seize and keep non-Muslim females as sex slaves, and to rape prepubescent child brides, and to maintain harems, including harems of captive sex slaves, just like mohammed did? Would *you* take a six-year-old girl as your ‘wife’ and rape her when she turned nine? Mohammed did these things. *You*, insofar as you are an orthodox Muslim, are required to hold that whatever mohammed did is *right* and *good* and worthy of emulation. So.. may we conclude that child-brides, slave-raiding and slave-trading, and the rape of underaged girl children, and the keeping of many wives and sex slaves, is good in *your* eyes?? That if you could get Swiss law changed, to conform with the sharia *permission* and *approval* of these practices, you *would*???

    It would be fun to put him on the spot.

    Best of all would be to confront him with a group of clear-eyed clear-headed **apostates from Islam**. Say, Ali Sina, Magdi Cristiano Allam, Mona Walters, and Ibn Warraq, Ayaan Hirsi Alil, and Arabic-fluent Wafa Sultan.

    Let them confront him and ask him – *Why* did you embrace, why are you promoting and doing PR for, the ugly woman-hating antihuman death cult from which *we* fled as soon as we could, even though we knew we might be *killed* for so doing?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 21, 2018 at 12:53 am

      Fine posts, DDA.

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