“in the fourth debate about Jesus as the Son of God, a sheikh found himself ill-prepared and left in the middle of the event, sources said. Embarrassed Muslims in the crowd responded by throwing stones at Pastor Palapande and shouting the jihadist chant, ‘Allah akbar,’ they said. ‘A big stone hit the pastor’s forehead.'”
Well, that’s one way to win an argument.
“Islamist Violence against Christians in Uganda Injures Pastors, Stops Church Services,” Morning Star News, July 13, 2018:
NAIROBI, Kenya (Morning Star News) – In further anti-Christian hostilities in eastern Uganda, Muslims knocked a pastor unconscious at a debate and Islamist threats in another village put a halt to worship services….
In Butaleja District, also in eastern Uganda, a pastor was knocked unconscious when irate Muslims threw rocks at him and other church leaders during a debate on Christianity and Islam in Kuwait village, sources said.
A stone struck pastor Tom Palapande, 38, in the head during an open-air debate on June 21, part of a two-week evangelistic campaign. The first week featured only evangelistic events, and the second week included debates with area Muslims about Islamic and Christian scriptures, the Trinity and the Sonship of Jesus, among other topics.
The first three debates took place without incident, but in the fourth debate about Jesus as the Son of God, a sheikh found himself ill-prepared and left in the middle of the event, sources said. Embarrassed Muslims in the crowd responded by throwing stones at Pastor Palapande and shouting the jihadist chant, “Allah akbar,” they said.
“A big stone hit the pastor’s forehead, and the stones as well injured three other church leaders who were close to the pastor at the podium – Moses Balabye, Agrey Gibenya and Milton Magezi,” a church leader told Morning Star News.
Pastor Palapande said that he regained consciousness in a Kuwait clinic and was later transferred to a hospital in Mbale….
Japetto Danatelli says
This is the usual response in any debate with muslims, you give them intellect and they react with apish brute force. They’ve done this to Spencer too, where he offers an intellectual argument only to be called a “racist” in rebuttal. If it wasn’t so consequential it would be funny. The obvious truth is, muslims can’t win a debate because there is no rational, moral defense of islam that can fly more than a Mexican jumping bean. Islamic doctrine is blatantly hateful, retarded, and violent. We shouldn’t be debating it, we should be working to eradicate it like a plague.
DBM echo says
You don’t have to be crazy to follow Islam. But it does help your personal Islamification process.
For 1400 years one constant prevails. Find Muslims, find trouble.
No Muzzies Here says
Does anyone really think it’s possible to have a civilized, rational debate with Muslims? They have been trained that violence is the correct response to any insult or slight, no matter how small.
Reasoning and cooperation are not qualities that you normally find among members of the religion of peace.
Rarely says
It’s not just debates with non-muslims. Every now and then there’s a video on MEMRI where two muslims will go at it during a TV discussion. The total inability to allow anyone to have a opposing opinion without outrage is common and very discouraging.. It’s like 2 year-olds having temper tantrums. You just have to wait for them to grow up. Patience tends to be strained when it takes 1400 plus years (and counting).
gravenimage says
+1
Tama says
“A worn-out shoe is my only comment” xD only one of the lighter rebuttals
Tom says
Ah the religion of peace when defeated in words reverts back to its default position, drown out the opposition by shouting “Allahu Akbah” and then stone them.
Christian leaders always have to learn the hard way when it comes to Islam. Turning the other cheek with Muslims only provides an opportunity for further physical abuse.
Debate with Muslims about their religion is like playing Russian roulette with a loaded revolver. You know that at some point in the pulling of the trigger the gun is going to fire off a round and the result will not be pretty. It is a certainty, just as debating Islam with a Muslim will, at some point end in violence.
Baucent says
Exactly. Why come up with a well reasoned argument when you can parrot “Allahu Akbah” endlessly.
That is where “interfaith dialogue” is going to get you, either the non muslim submits or the stones will fly, or worse.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
It is very easy to defeat mithraist christians on the issue of Godman and begotten son of God doctrines. In my previous comment I computed that Rubbish of 3 aspects of Godman in Trinity ,ie God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit, and found it amounted to 3gods, which is clear polytheism. on Begotten son of God, I posed the question when and how Jesus became the only begotten son of God?According to Mathew 3:16-17 Jesus became the begotten son of at Baptisement by John the Baptist, which means he was not begotten son of God at the beginning and as such he was not with God as stated in John. Then how he became the begotten son of God? was it biological as stated in mithraist bible :”she (Mary) was overshadowed by the most high “and “he(jesus)was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit “?or it is just a title. If it was just a tittle, then begotten son of God was not unique to Jesus, because many were given that title as stated in the mithraist Bible.
Terry Gain says
Muhammad
Can you explain why your God chose a psychopath as his messenger and role model? Surely a God would have realized that murder and mayhem would follow the choice of Muhammad – as it has. Is your God Satan? Or is the whole story of Islam a poorly constructed fantasy?
Andy says
To: Ibrahim itace muhammed
Do one small step for man and have Islam do one giant leap for mankind.for kindness/goodness & love for all humanity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=YFx1Dz0e1wc
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
It is very easy to defeat mithraist christians on the issue of Godman and begotten son of God doctrines. In my previous comment I computed that Rubbish of 3 aspects of Godman in Trinity ,ie God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit, and found it amounted to 3gods, which is clear polytheism…
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Ibrahim itace muhammed understands nothing about the trinity, despite this being a pretty elementary concept.
But this is not, of course, the main issue here–it is that he believes that on the basis of his ignorance that it is fine for Muslims to assault, rape, and murder Christians and other Infidels.
Note that he has *no* problem with his coreligionist hitting this Christian in the head with a rock.
This is how Muslims “debate”. He would do the same to us here–or worse–if he could. He has said that Muslims have the right to slaughter all “polytheists”.
Jedothek says
It is incorrect to call “Allah Akbar” (properly Allahu akbar ) a jihadist chant. It is used by Muslims on very many kinds of occasions, not just in connection with jihad.
Terry Gain says
It is also a jihadist chant. No one claimed it was exclusively a jihadist chant.
gravenimage says
It isn’t exclusively used in Jihad–but it is almost always used in Jihad.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Jedothek is asserting that the worst thing about the Muslim crowd knocking this pastor unconscious by hitting him in the head with a thrown stone is that the third-party website that was cited in this article was not linguistically accurate in reporting on the use of an Arabic language phrase. Perhaps Jedothek also has a problem with the majority of the western press that serially mistranslates “allahu akbar” as “God is great”? But that mistranslation probably fits Jedothek’s agenda of characterizing those words as being a benign, interfaith expression of universal spirituality (which cannot be something that he believes in, if he is a follower of Islamic doctrine).
And, when “allahu akbar” is “chanted” during an act of jihad, then it is almost certainly being used as an expression of jihadist zeal. Throwing rocks at a religious leader, whom one views as having challenged Islam, fits squarely into the realm of jihad.
It is encouraging, though, that Jedothek appears to have educated himself on the variety of contexts in which the phrase “allahu akbar” may be used. Perhaps he read Robert Spencer’s article on this very site?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/robert-spencer-at-breitbart-allahu-akbar-doesnt-mean-what-media-says-it-means
Hari Singh says
Debates are a cover up for whats really the Muslim main effort to stop the widespread growth of Islam in Africa. The real tactic is to intimidate thru violence. This has always been the main tactic.
When you debate them ask them to denounce Boko Haram [books are forbidden] Taliban etc. see what happens.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
FYI, God the Almighty is above having a spirit to breath like creatures who have spirits of life or soul for body sytem to function. God created all spirits,which include spirits of life (souls) and other spirits who function without body sytem like angels,jinns or demons and the satan,who could appear like body form. That entity you call Holy Spirit you say represents wisdom of God or breath of God or voice of God appearing like a dove in Mathew 3 is exactly the satan appearing to deceive you
duh swami says
Hah thanks…Yer delusional martial is amusing…
gravenimage says
Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed *still* has nothing critical to say about Muslims violently assaulting people who disagree with them. But then, why would he? This is perfectly Islamic.
gravenimage says
Uganda Christian/Muslim debate: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” knock Christian debater unconscious with large stone
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This *poor man*. This is how Muslims handle debate…
Lydia Church says
Christians come with reasons…. and muslims don’t have those, so they come with… rocks!
SAE says
The only thing necessary for the triumph of Evil is that good men (and women) do nothing. Edmund Burke
Long live liberty and freedom in these United States. We all NEED to follow through on this:
https://clarionproject.org/designate-muslim-brotherhood-foreign-terrorist-organization/
gravenimage says
+1
Lydia Church says
Jesus is God the Son, Eternal.
The Bible is the truth. Read ’em & weep, oh you unbelievers!
“Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son’s name? Surely you know!” Proverbs 30; 4
“The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet.” ” Psalm 110; 1
“For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. There will be no end to the increase of His government or of peace, On the throne of David and over his kingdom, To establish it and to uphold it with justice and righteousness From then on and forevermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will accomplish this.” Isaiah 9; 6-7
That refutes all the opponents have to say.
But they are deceived by the forces of darkness, so I’m not holding my breath for them to “get it”!
I’ll go back to Handel’s “Messiah” and my cup of tea…
; D
duh swami says
HAHA ok…Frustrated preacher? Religious supremacy is a trap, try not to fall into it…
SAE says
Ugh…duh swami, the outcome is CERTAIN.
“And I say also unto thee. Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mt 16:18
Those in hell are the ones that’ll be “trapped” in it…for all eternity.
elee says
Did infidel blood fall?
Interfaith dialogue a la Muslim.
SAE says
Unfortunately, Michigan has a shariah compliant muzslime campaigning for governor. During a debate, the ONLY competent opponent, Patrick Colbeck, addressed our Constitution/shariah incompatibility issue. Right on queue and true to muzslime’s innate, ignorant, amateur responses to all matters of consequence (thankfully he was “reckless”) Abduhl’s response to Colbeck was caught on camera:
https://www.mrctv.org/blog/muslim-dem-candidate-michigan-gov-repub-opponent-muslims-definitely-hate-you
Oops…he’s obviously not the brilliant professional leader he falsely claims to be.
SAE says
My bad..supposed to read “rockless” NOT reckless.
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Chantal says
The only talk they do is VIOLENCE. Why would we want any of them here in our country? They will not burn the quran or denounce their imams so they are as guilty as any jihadis.
David B. says
Debating the ignorant has no value and is an utter waste of time.
As long as muslims are incapable of honesty evaluating their “holy” writings and history they will be nothing more than rabble in the street throwing stones.
Let’s be honest, the majority of muslims are too ignorant to read on their own “holy” books and rely completely on their local imam to “explain” how they should live and act. This is a method of control, not worship.