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UK: Labour MP Neil Coyle: London Bridge and Borough market jihad mass murderers were “not Muslims”

Jul 4, 2018 11:14 am By Robert Spencer

This willful ignorance and wishful thinking is not Neil Coyle’s alone; it is dominant among the British political and media elites. But it is based on no evidence whatsoever. The jihadis certainly believe that they are Muslims, and justify their actions by reference to Islamic texts and teachings.

Take, for example, the Islamic State (ISIS). ISIS quoted the Qur’an extensively in threats to blow up the White House and conquer Rome and Spain; in explaining its priorities in the nations it is targeting in jihad; in preaching to Christians after collecting the jizya (a Qur’an-based tax, cf. Qur’an 9:29); in justifying the execution of accused spies; and in its various videos.

ISIS also awarded $10,000 prizes and sex slaves in Qur’an memorization contests. One of its underground lairs was found littered with weapons and copies of the Qur’an. Children in the Islamic State study the Qur’an and get weapons training. One Malaysian Muslim said that the Qur’an led him to join the Islamic State. A Muslima in the U.S. promoted the Islamic State by quoting the Qur’an. An Islamic State propagandist’s parents said of him: “Our son is a devout Muslim. He had learnt the Quran by heart.” A Muslim politician from Jordan said that the Islamic State’s “doctrine stems from the Qur’an and Sunnah.”

Coyle said: “We should not forget that the attackers at London Bridge and Borough market chose to commit their atrocity at the very time when real Muslims were breaking fast. They were not Muslims, and it is not Islamophobic to try to prevent such men from committing atrocities.” Yet this does not establish what Coyle wishes it to establish. As the Pakistani jihad leader Maulana Bashir recently said, “Ramadan is the pious month of ‘Jihad-o-Qital’ (Jihad and killing).” The London Bridge and Borough market jihadis likely agreed, and considered their attacks to be pious acts, even more pleasing to Allah than breaking the Ramadan fast would have been.

But Neil Coyle and the rest of the British establishment refuse to consider any of this. The implications would be, for them, too terrible.

“Retention of biometric data for counter-terrorism purposes etc,” They Work For You, July 3, 2018 (thanks to Ian):

Neil Coyle Labour, Bermondsey and Old Southwark

I wish to echo some of what my hon. Friend the Member for Cardiff South and Penarth said. I share some of the concerns of my hon. Friend the Member for Ealing Central and Acton about the materials, although I suspect some of them have been updated. If simply having a beard made one a suspect, Father Christmas would be in trouble—were he to exist.

As co-chair of the all-party group on counter-extremism and someone who represents a constituency that has been attacked, I recognise the benefits of Prevent. After last year’s attack at London Bridge and Borough market, I spoke to the five mosques in my constituency, which frankly wanted to open their doors. They wanted to know that their sons and daughters—in particular their sons—would not be targeted by those who seek to groom the innocent and turn them into people who seek to attack and undermine our way of life. They also wanted engagement, to counter the Islamophobia that grows when attacks occur. There is a role for Prevent in such situations. We should not forget that the attackers at London Bridge and Borough market chose to commit their atrocity at the very time when real Muslims were breaking fast. They were not Muslims, and it is not Islamophobic to try to prevent such men from committing atrocities.

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  1. Malcolm (South Afric) says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Neil Coyle is representive of most Western politicians who are so dangerous when they get their hands on the levers of power, it brings to mind the situation under Obama.

    What has never been world news is: that John Brennan the counter terrorist adviser voted communist in 1976, enters the CIA in 1980, in 2013 Obama voted him in as CIA head.
    He was the head, to plans to protect America from terrorism.

    It needs to be remembered that many of us and in Africa, in 1976 were fighting communist, from Cuba and Russian trained minions.

    America’s world presence was one of absolute weakness and lack of respect during this period.

    If anyone wanted to find Russian collusion, or propping up terrorism, look no further than the Democrat (Socialist) Party and the rest of the Western politicians.

    • john spielman says

      Jul 4, 2018 at 12:25 pm

      Neil Coyle: just another blathering USEFUL IDIOT (to use Stalins contemptous words)

      • mortimer says

        Jul 5, 2018 at 11:24 am

        Neil Coyle is making up his own facts irresponsibly! Ramadan is called ‘THE MONTH OF JIHAD AND VICTORIES!’, Mr. Coyle.

        ‘THE MONTH OF JIHAD AND VICTORIES!’

        Coyle has not read Islam’s primary source texts nor the canonical commentaries nor Islamic history nor Sharia law, and yet, preposterously, he presents himself as an authority on Islam. What a fraud.

    • Paul Lund says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 11:56 am

      This hysteria is exactly what Lebanon did to itself. Might refer to this as being Lebanon-ized

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 5, 2018 at 6:41 pm

        Lebanon foolishly let in huge numbers of Muslim “Palestinians” in the early 1970s. She never recovered from this, and is now dominated by Hizb’allah, which uses here as a base from which to attack Israel.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 5, 2018 at 6:44 pm

        her as a base

  2. End PC says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 11:41 am

    The truth scares such people too much – can’t accept it. Truth for most is just a commodity that they’ll accept & prize when its useful. Lies perceived as useful are much more embraceable.

    ” The faintest of all human passions is the love of truth.” — A.E. Housman

  3. James Lincoln says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 11:44 am

    The real question is this:

    What should the attackers at London Bridge and Borough market have done, above and beyond what they already had done, in order to convince someone like Neil Coyle that they were “real” Muslims?

    Would anything convince him?

    • Tony Holland says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 5:35 am

      take no notice of the labour prick he has the same mind set as the Warsi’s, the Browns the Sha’s the Corbyns and 99% of the whole ‘party’,don’t ever give support to these cretins if you want the truth ever again,NEW people needed to restore sanity and truthfulness to our declining democracy and to rebuild our once great country not the same old liars,Con/Lab,just different sides of the same coin!!

  4. elee says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 12:33 pm

    Right, it’s always some evil kafir plot to give Muslims a bad name. Sure. Oh and 9-11 was also a plot to defame Muslims, oh and yes, 6,000 Jews all called in sick that morning. Anybody else sick and tired of hearing this predictable s@#t every time some Muslim does exactly what his scripture told him to do?

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 4, 2018 at 9:54 pm

      I certainly am sick of it, elee.

  5. Tom says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    “Labour MP” Nuff said. The Brit Labour Party is made up of misfits, radical left twits, and Islamic appeasers, who meld together like rats in a sewer.

    Of course those who commit Jihad against the kuffar are Muslims you dolt.

    • Anne Smith says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 3:12 pm

      The British Labour Party is now dominated by Muslims and Jeremy Corbyn has a fair grasp of the maths. There are many more Muslims in UK than Jews and he is going all out for the Muslim vote. Condoning anti-Semitism in the Labour Party is bringing the Muslim vote on board.

      This sort of specious twaddle from Coyle, and other Labour MPs has only one purpose in mind – to secure the block Muslim vote for Labour and get them into power.

      This is why Sharia May, our foolish and incompetent Prime Minister makes videos regularly extolling all the virtues of Muslims and twittering on about how much the contribute to our wonderfully diverse culture. Both Labour and Conservatives are fighting over the same electorate – the Muslims.

  6. PRCS says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    An extremely stupid man in charge of counter-extremism.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 11:25 am

      PRCS wrote: ‘xtremely stupid man in charge of counter-extremism’.

      He is being paid by the jihadists, if you ask me.

  7. PRCS says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 1:01 pm

    Compare and contrast:

    Coyle: “the attackers at London Bridge and Borough market chose to commit their atrocity at the very time when real Muslims were breaking fast. They were not Muslims.”

    Hillary Clinton: “Let’s be clear: Islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism.”

    • Guy Forester says

      Jul 4, 2018 at 5:12 pm

      I suspect that when these two dopes left the premises, their respective target audiences laughed until they passed out from hyperventilation.

      • PRCS says

        Jul 4, 2018 at 7:52 pm

        Not nearly enough of them, I’m afraid.

  8. Michael Copeland says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    “Fight [that is, kill] those of the unbelievers who are near to you.
    Let them find harshness in you.”
    Koran 9:123
    part of Islamic law

  9. Save Europe says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm

    Yet another Labour MP trying to gain Muslim votes! Actually Coyle – the scum WERE Muslim – actually, Orthodox ones who follow their vile book to the letter !!!!

    • Nigel GFF says

      Jul 4, 2018 at 6:23 pm

      Vote for me, I’m not an islamophobe ‘cos although I’m in favour of preventing young Muslim males from turning into b’stard murderers, once they do commit terrorist actions they’ve transmuted into non-muslims, ergo a vote for me.

      “…They were not Muslims, and it is not Islamophobic to try to prevent such men from committing atrocities.”

      Oh, what a tangled web we weave Mr ‘cover your ass’ Coyle.

      • Save Europe says

        Jul 4, 2018 at 6:42 pm

        Completely true Nigel ???

  10. utis says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 4:06 pm

    Okay. They weren’t muslims. The Pope isn’t a Commie. And the MP isn’t a vote-whore.

  11. Rarely says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Once again it all comes down to definitions. They are just using a different dictionary.
    e.g. “not a muslim” means “it would be islamophobic for a non-muslim to say the perpetrator is a muslim (regardless of what the perp says) but okay for the muslim community to reward him as if he were a muslim”. The worse the act the more he is “not a muslim” to the non-muslim community. and the greater the reward by the muslim community and/or in the hereafter.
    Now his denial makes sense. Well, sort of.

    • Save Europe says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 10:53 pm

      The classic lines every time I meet a Muslim –

      • ohhhh but they’re not Muslim! Answer – yes they are, they’re Orthodox Musllims who would perceive you to not be insufficiently Muslim. Plus, if a Catholic priest gets arrested for paedophilia, they’re not immediately referred to as ‘non Catholic’ by the media.

      • ohhhh but Muslims get murdered in larger numbers than non Muslims!
      Answer – irrelevant! What’s the common denominator here? Yep, Islam !!!

      • but it’s due to Western foreign policy!

      Answer – B.S !!!! Did people like Tony Blair come to power based on their own foreign policy/manifesto? No! He never asked the electorate’s permission for him to sanction he invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. So, clearly you think it’s okay to kill innocent civilians and young girls leaving a concert in Manchester.

  12. PRCS says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 4:43 pm

    Next, he’ll say Usama bin Laden wasn’t a Muslim and that Abu Bakr al Baghdadi isn’t.

  13. Axolotl says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 6:36 pm

    A man puts on a dress, says “I’m a woman” and the law demands that we MUST agree.
    A man stabs a few people, says “I’m a muslim” and the law demands that we MUST NOT agree.
    How’s that work?
    By-the-bye, I know which one I find most convincing…

  14. gravenimage says

    Jul 4, 2018 at 9:45 pm

    UK: Labour MP Neil Coyle: London Bridge and Borough market jihad mass murderers were “not Muslims”
    ……………………..

    Ah, yes–pious Muslims are not Muslims, and Islam is not Islam…

    What a fool.

    More idiocy:

    If simply having a beard made one a suspepopulact, Father Christmas would be in trouble—
    ……………………..

    How many times have we heard *this* stupidity?

    Beards have been popular at various times in the West, and we have never associated them with violent Jihad before–because there was never a reason to.

  15. infidel says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 2:40 am

    This is NOTHING BUT MONUMENTAL TREACHERY that the LIB LEFT in the Greater West and also in places like India orchestrate on their non-Muslim population Muslims keep on doing violent Jehaad and endlessly plot our destruction and yet we are supposed to not stand up and point our fingers at what is HORRIBLY AND DIABOLICALLY WRONG!!! VOW!!!! Mr Coyle is a fool, the likes of which Muslims RELISH with glee to have on their side…

  16. infidel says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 2:47 am

    As far as I’m concerned, ISLAM AND MUSLIMS HAVE LONG RUN OUT OF THEIR HUGE LIST OF EXCUSES and their million chances of making things right… Whatever the so called Mod Muslims or their equally crazy and diabolical LEFT-LIB cronies spout as excuses.. MAKES NO F-ing difference to me. I These worn out excuses do not right all the monumental wrongs done by these beasts in the name of their Allah nor does it bring back the hapless dead victims of Jehaad back to life… nor offer any solace to their kith and kin at the least..

  17. Johm says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 3:33 am

    That’s what an idiot thinks like.

  18. Antonin Dlouhy says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 5:10 am

    There’s a silver lining here. City Brits are not scared of the Muslim slimeballs, no way – they’ve been bombed worse than that, from WW2, through the IRA (those Libya-loving sons of fun) and more. But the run-of-the-mill, just-trying-to-put-food-on-the-table and get through another week Muslims are scared witless of the terrorists – and with good reason: one peep about the bomb factory on your street and you and your family are dead, dead, dead! So dimwit Labourites who whitewash acts of atrocity are NOT gaining votes – they’re losing them. Thanks be, the act of voting is private. I’d like to be a fly on the wall of the booths and see which way people really vote! I got to know a lot of London Muslims in the course of my work a few years back. They were, to a man (and a couple of women) true-blue conservatives, on the side of whoever helped small enterprises and startups make money. They could spot a slippery liar at a hundred yards and loathed the Labour party – maybe on account of recognising totalitarianism from actual experience of it in the dumb, Soviet-backed theocracies they left behind.

    Make no mistake, as the years fly by, I come closer and closer to Arnoldus Almaricus “Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoscet.” But we need a bit of nuance if we’re ever to get a grip on who “omnes” are and, in the end, we’re going to need help from the terrified majority…..

    • Guy Forester says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 1:39 pm

      Antonin,

      I agree on the point that the average muslim is probably more afraid of the terrorists among them due to proximity and the ability to silence any squealers. However, it seems to me that this and other websites have shown multiple polls showing that many, if not most muslims support the imposition of sharia and the waging of jihad.

      The average muslim voter will vote muslim just as our average American low socioeconomic voter will vote Democrat, despite worsening economic conditions, higher crime, failing schools, and crumbling infrastructure. There is only one connecting and motivating reason: ideology. Never mind the results, vote for the same failed shills year after year that promise the same freebies at the expense of others and your supposed superiority over those whose largess you depend upon.

      Of course, it also helps that those not qualified to vote manage to, dead people vote for decades, some vote multiple times, and those that are supposed to maintain the integrity of the vote are simply corrupted.

      So, sorry, the average UK voter will not be able to change this at the voting booth as they do not count the votes. Unless you get an overwhelming response from Brits that vote out these maggots, and the vote is too large to conceal, it won’t happen. And since the UK is disarmed, the military too small, and the populace appears cowed, nothing different will happen. The demise of the once great, Great Britain is probably a fait accompli.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 6:59 pm

      *No one* should have to regard our being regularly murdered by Muslims as normal. *Ugh*.

      • Save Europe says

        Jul 5, 2018 at 10:59 pm

        Suckdick Khan attempted to normalise terrorism in London, as being acceptable. And yet, it doesn’t appear to happen in Cities like Tokyo or Budapest I do wonder why that is ?.

  19. Charlie says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 6:35 am

    Judging Islam under Labour MP Neil Coyle’s pretext, one might come to the ironic conclusion that Ali, Uthman, Umar, Abu Bakr, and Muhammad himself we not Muslim as well, for the same reason.

  20. Steven says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 7:19 am

    Careful Neil Coyle!.. Your comment is insulting and offending the islamic terrorists…by called them Not muslims… you’ll make them so angry and want to go further terror attacks cos of your “hurtful” comment.

  21. Steven says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 7:23 am

    Does it mean so-called prophet mo-ham-mad, a war lord, murderer and paedophile is not muslim?

  22. Joe says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 7:46 am

    Obama, the guy who said, “You can keep your plan”, said OBL was killed. That is all that we have, except we know some helicopters went into Pakistan and fired bullets. Maybe OBL was killed. But we don’t have a credible source.

    • TWG says

      Jul 6, 2018 at 6:57 pm

      I don’t believe for one second that obl was killed and buried at sea. The facts don’t support that claim.

  23. James K. says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 11:10 am

    He obviously poked himself in the eye and caught his brain with that upraised pinky during high tea.

    • Guy Forester says

      Jul 5, 2018 at 1:42 pm

      That would be one lucky shot, as there can only be one or two neurons floating in all that water in his cranium.

  24. Norger says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    Let’s be sure to ignore the inescapable fact that these terrorists strongly self-identited as devout Muslims and that theirs is an entirely plausible interpretation of the faith, well-grounded in authoritative Islamic sources. This is exactly what secular government officials should be doing; making pronouncements about whether mainstream interpretations of Islam represent “true” Islam, which is apparently indistinguishable from Quaker pacifism. Utterly pathetic.

  25. shoehorn says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 5:01 pm

    Yes, all good non-Islamophobes must try to prevent non-Muslims committing such jihad atrocities!
    //sarc

  26. Warren says

    Jul 5, 2018 at 7:12 pm

    This guy must be a Muslim a liar or totally deluded. During Ramadan Muhammad took thousands of Muslims to attack cities. It’s not a holy month in the muslim calendar, Ramadan is a time of war and killing of non Muslims. They kill more people at this time of year than at any other time. Don’t take any notice of what this stupid man is telling us he has not read the biography of Muhammad or the Koran. Islam is an ideology of war rape and death to non believers.

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