“The chattering-class concern with Islamophobia is not about protecting Muslims from genuine discrimination or violence (both of these things are already illegal), but rather is about ringfencing Islam and all Muslims from criticism, surrounding this one religion with a blasphemy-deflecting forcefield. So any commentary on Islam or even on influential Muslims can be casually batted aside as ‘phobic’.”
Yes. This has been going on for years, and is already quite far advanced.
“It isn’t Islamophobic to criticise Sadiq Khan,” by Brendan O’Neill, Spiked, July 13, 2018:
…Trump is saying that Sadiq is ‘responsible for terrorism’, says Labour’s shadow foreign secretary Emily Thornberry. He didn’t say that, though. He simply said Sadiq has done a bad job on terrorism – the same way many, many people said Tony Blair did a bad job on terrorism and may even have stoked it up with his foreign interventions. Trump’s comment on Sadiq is ‘Islamophobia and it is racist’, Thornberry said.
Labour MP David Lammy said, ‘The real reason Trump blames my friend Sadiq Khan for the terror attacks last year’ – he didn’t do that! – ‘is simple. He hates that London chose a Muslim mayor.’ Lammy offers no evidence for this. But why should he? In the increasingly grating grievance politics of identity and victimhood, proof counts for nought and inference is always enough. Criticise Islam, you hate Muslims. Wonder about the wisdom of mass immigration, you’re racist. It’s automatic. Maybe I’m racist for criticising David Lammy.
Dawn Butler, Labour spokesperson on equality, slammed Trump’s ‘ugly dog-whistle politics’. In short, she can’t prove that his comments on Sadiq were racist, but she can imply that they contain some kind of secret code that will be audible to more vulgar Britons – the ‘dogs’ in that analogy – who will have their innate ‘Islamophobia’ stirred up by their American master. This genuinely prejudiced view – that Trump could provoke the uncouth underbelly of British society to acts of hatred or violence – is now widespread online.
Everything about this dash to brand Trump an Islamophobe for criticising the London mayor is worrying. It confirms that the chattering-class concern with Islamophobia is not about protecting Muslims from genuine discrimination or violence (both of these things are already illegal), but rather is about ringfencing Islam and all Muslims from criticism, surrounding this one religion with a blasphemy-deflecting forcefield. So any commentary on Islam or even on influential Muslims can be casually batted aside as ‘phobic’. Even worse, today’s spat shows that now political debate, never mind differences on religion, can be demonised with the Islamophobia brand. Is it Islamophobic to criticise Sadiq? Must we all hold our tongue because he is of Asian and Muslim origin? Isn’t that, erm, a little racist – treating a brown-skinned politician more gently and cautiously than you would a white one?
And this is worrying because of what it tells us about the Corbyn-led Labour Party: that it has been swallowed up by the infantile politics of grievance, identity and offence-taking. These are no longer traits limited to the so-called ‘snowflake’ generation or people in academia – rather, political parties themselves now embrace and weaponise overblown identitarian sensitivity and self-pity in order to chill political criticism, silence certain opinions, and exercise greater control over what it is permissible to say in public life. People are using Trump’s visit to talk up the division and crisis he has apparently visited upon the American republic, but right now I am more worried by the insight we are getting into the further drift of British political life into the elitism and censoriousness of identity politics.
Lebel says
“‘The real reason Trump blames my friend Sadiq Khan for the terror attacks last year’ – he didn’t do that! – ‘is simple. He hates that London chose a Muslim mayor.’”
I don’t think we have evidence of that, It could be true given Trump’s policies and expressed views but that does not make it true without clear evidence. For jihadwatch and followers however, that link is abundantly clear. The fact that the Mayor is a Muslim explains the crime, terrorism etc in London. A sizeable portion of jihadwatchers think that the Mayor is planning to implement shariah. Its the same stupidity that they believed about Obama. That is expected of course and is perfectly natural if one adheres to the jihadwatch ideology.
gravenimage says
No one is saying that Sadiq Khan is directly responsible for Jihad terrorism in London–but his policies are doing little to curb it.
As for Shari’ah, here’s what Khan has actually said. When asked about imposing Shari’ah back in 2008, he said, “Muslim life in Britain was not advanced enough to run a similar religious legal system [to Beth Din]”
.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056794/Sharia-law-fit-UK-says-Labour-Muslim-MP.html
What about when Muslim life *is* “advanced” enough? Clearly, he has no problem with Shari’ah then. Lebel, of course, hopes we don’t know about this.
Wellington says
On point comment yet again, gravenimage. My compliments.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington.
Andy says
Crazy Khan is letting London, England be destroyed
President Donald John Trump is telling the truth,
Trump: Europe is Losing Its Culture Because of Immigration!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlIZhssbLJs
Andy says
Trump Ambassador Lobbies UK to Release Tommy Robinson!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wZovYhuQ0s
Lebel says
I see that you didn’t bother to even look at the link. It’s Mr. Khan telling the UK why Shariah SHOULDN’T be implemented. It’s a case of hearing what you want to hear and it is very emblematic of the jihadwatch delusional paranoid mindset.
Article title (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1056794/Sharia-law-fit-UK-says-Labour-Muslim-MP.html): “Sharia law is ‘not fit for the UK’, says a Labour Muslim MP”
That should be the first hint, but this is jihadwatch so lets ignore it because he’s a Muslim.
Third sentence: “Sadiq Khan said women could be ‘ abused’ by sharia courts, which may give unequal bargaining power to the sexes. ”
Sounds like something Ben Ladin himself would say eh?
It continues:
“Mr Khan, who was made a community cohesion minister in this month’s Government reshuffle, rejected the argument that the courts could operate in the same way as the Jewish Beth Din courts. ”
To a jihadwatcher this probably reads : “Fuck the UK and kill infidels!!”
Here is where someone ill intentioned starts to twist words to fit a specific agenda:
“He said Muslim life in Britain was not advanced enough to run a similar religious legal system.
The MP for Tooting in South London added: ‘I would be very concerned about sharia courts applying in the UK.
‘I don’t think there is that level of sophistication that there is in Jewish law.’
He also said that sharia courts would discourage Muslims from developing links with other cultural and ethnic groups. ”
There is no doubt that Mr. Khan is saying no to Shariah courts and he explains it by saying that they are not as sophisticated as jewish courts. There is absolutely nothing here that supports Shariah, he is saying the contrary. But all that was ignored for another agenda.
Shariah law not fit for the UK? Not good enough! because he is a MUSLIM and thus he MUST actually be supportive of Shariah.
I have made the claim that jihadwatchers twist reality to fit pre-established beliefs. We have a clear proof here but no one will admit to it, most certainly not you Wellington.
jayell says
Khan is probably following a PC script in his public utterances in order to make the ‘right noises’ for political acceptability in order to sell himself and further his personal political amibitions in the UK – which is what all aspiring politicos do. The thing we should all do is look beneath the rhetoric and see how his actions and words past and present match the current rehearsed script – and we tend to find too many mis-matches. For example, he has claimed to be an ‘agnostic’, yet appears to associate himself with islam too closely and cites President Trump’s purported ‘islamophobia’ as an excuse for his appalling insolence towards the President. Secondly, no-one, not even rampant feminists, complained about the use of scantily-clad females on the tube advertising, yet Khan, in his ‘great concern for women’s psychological well-being’ decided to take the curiously islamic view on female propiety without any consultation. Thirdly, against the traditional spirit of British intellectual tolerance, Khan has decided to spend millions on a near-Stasi-style ‘hate speech’ surveillance programme which just happens to suit those of an islamic persuasion, whilst grossly neglecting the matter of Law and Order for which he attempts to excuse himself as a ‘victim of Tory cut’ – which we all know he could rectify by diverting funds from his pet propaganda campaign. Fourthly, he allows parades through the Capital involving non-indigenous groups on non-indigenous matters making outrageously offensive to indigenous ears but appear not to offend Khan. No, we are not convinced.
Wellington says
I haven’t twisted reality at all, Lebel. I think Islam, all of it, sucks, is the worst religion ever created by man and is a mortal enemy of liberty. No twisting here, Lebel, “merely” a conviction deeply held.
And what of gravenimage’s question of yesterday in her 6:09 P.M. post, to wit, what about when Muslim life in Britain is advanced enough per Khanthink? Yes, what then? I noticed you ignored this one. You can twist things at times, you know, by not answering questions, like the one gravenimage posed.
gravenimage says
*Of course* I’ve read it–Lebel just hopes that no one else here has.
Khan never condemns Shari’ah law–he just says that Muslim life in the UK is not “advanced” enough to allow its imposition.
Again, what happens when it *is* “advanced” enough? He seems to be fine with imposing the horrors of Shari’ah then.
Andy says
Geert Wilders: Free Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xit_iTTWs5Y
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, it is Satan god you call Holy Spirit who is inspiring savage mad devil Trump to hate Muslims ànd Islam. Islam will prevail in the west when mad devil Trump has been dead and casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning forever together with the satan. wicked agent of evils!!
Susan B says
Your nose must be so long by now that moving around a room is becoming impossible.
Traian imperator says
You are full of love for us, non muslims. We must learn to love you, Muslims, with same passion. And show that love to you as you show us your love.
Pete says
go hump a goat ibby. that should vent your frustrations
Susan B says
Pete, raping animals is cruel, no not encourage it. Perhaps a better idea would be to tell ibraham to visit his boyfriend, we all know about mohammedan men, wink wink…
Gauge says
To get home from work I go past this largish lake that the local council has dammed up in to the public park. So the evening is cold, grey, overcast, drizzling, and I am too far from home. I hear the ducks quacking away among the reeds. The ducks and I share the same world but the ducks seem quite happy in that part which is dank wet and boring; and that they liked being in that grey slimy place was utterly incomprehensible to me. I just don’t want to be a duck. It was quack quack quack. Pea brains. So unsophisticated, so inelegant. Then some of them would rise up together and there was the thrashing sound of wet wings against wet reeds. But I had heard that sound so often that I was certain that the sound was “Mithraism ! Mithraism ! ” . I came to realise it was a mating thing. It was how they brought more wet ducks into the world.
gravenimage says
I like ducks–I live near a bird preserve. I’ll take them over ravening Mohammedans any day of the week.
gravenimage says
The idea that Americans would love being raped and murdered by Muslims if it were not for “Satan god” is just grotesque.
And look at the threat–that Islam will conquer us if Muslims are able to assassinate the president. Don’t hold your breath, Ibby.
Wellington says
Well, Lebel, I cut every Muslim a break, mayor or not, to the same extent I cut every KKK member a break, every Marxist a break, every anarchist a break, every Neo-Nazi a break, et al.
You see, Lebel, when you are an adherent of a hateful and/or stupid ideology or organization, like Islam, you may not personally want to implement every last despicable tenet of your creed/organization of choice, but this does not in any way exculpate you PRECISELY because you adhere to rottenness in the first place.
And Islam is rotten to the core, Lebel, and one knows this or should know it. So, even though some Muslims are very nice people, ditto for some Nazi Party members back in the 1930’s or Communist Party members in sundry East Bloc countries during the Cold War, this is IRRELEVANT. It’s the belief system or organization which is paramount.
Get this. As long as you don’t, you will never know why so many regular commenters here at JW, for instance myself, detest Islam through and through, being the mortal enemy of freedom which Mo’s creed surely is. So, cut it out with the crap you spew about how this Muslim or that Muslim doesn’t want to take over the world, doesn’t want to implement Sharia, “until all religion is with Allah” {Sura 8:39}. Islam does most certainly want this garbage galore, and by force and oppression and the extinction of such good things as liberty and equality under the law, and this is what counts above all. Oh yeah, get this and thus desist with your generic and mendacious attacks on so many who comment here at JW.
Like me.
infidel numero uno says
A most excellent post, Wellington. It encapsulates everything I, too, think about the abhorrent, mentally diseased, cult known as izlaam. WELL DONE!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington, it is your satan god who is rotten and bad smelly, which smears on you while having anus sex with you .wicked scums of bad smells
Susan B says
ibraham, I keep thinking that you could not go any lower or become more vile, but you just keep going down further into the pit of human depravity. I now know that the evil of islam has no bottom.
John Hawk says
Speaking of anuses, Ibrahim, with what species of stone do you wipe, as prescribed by your “prophet”? The use of sandstone must be deuce difficult, so I would assume you are more a granite man.
And perish even the thought of toilet paper, which would certainly identify you as an apostate of the worse sort.
Traian imperator says
I love you Ibrahim. As much as you love non Muslims. If we don’t start fast to love all of you and show that love, we are dead.
Wellington says
You’re a twisted man, Ibrahim, who believes in a twisted religion. Your only hope to recover the humanity you were born with is to leave Islam completely. No other outlet exists for you.
Wellington says
Peter35: I understand you point, and it is not a bad one, but sometimes evil or stupidity should be responded to lest it never encounters refutation. Not always, not even most of the time, but to never respond to halfwits is not the best option I believe. Take care.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is always excited by the thought of rape.
GP says
+1
Cicero says
Yes
As I have said before do not give Ibrahim the oxygen of your attention
gravenimage says
Cicero, I never respond to him directly–I just expose his ugliness.
Lebel says
“And what of gravenimage’s question of yesterday in her 6:09 P.M. post, to wit, what about when Muslim life in Britain is advanced enough per Khanthink? Yes, what then? I noticed you ignored this one. You can twist things at times, you know, by not answering questions, like the one gravenimage posed.”
I read the article in English were Mr. Khan clearly states his opposition to Shariah courts (ignored by you and just about every other jihadwatcher). There are other religious courts in Britain and so instead of saying let’s get rid of all religious courts (which would have been read as anti-semitic by you and just about every other jihadwatcher) he says the best possible thing..i.e the jewish courts are advanced enough, sophisticated enough (for example on women’s rights (another statement completely ignored by you and your buddies) to stay but Shariah courts aren’t. Mr. Khan cannot read into the future and say that Islam is so backward and evil that it will NEVER EVER be anything but evil and thus must be rejected by all of humanity.
Not that that answer would satisfy you, you would just call taqqiya. You see what you want to see and read what you want to read. It’s easy to prove, what were your thoughts on the other statements made by Mr. Khan in the provided article?
Wellington says
Uh, Lebel, you provided a non-answer answer. Khan doesn’t think Sharia would work NOW in Britain (and frankly, I have to take into consideration he may be lying even about this—he is a pretty sneaky guy after all) but he leaves open the possibility in the future.
Let me put it to you this way: What if the UK were about 50% Muslim, think Khan would have said the same thing? The smarter Muslims like Khan know just how much to demand per the percentage of the Muslim population in a non-Muslim nation. I think this is what is going one now with Khan.
By the way, can you name just one of the over fifty Muslim majority nations where true freedom exists—freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion? Just one, Lebel. I mean a Muslim majority nation where, for instance, a Muslim can openly convert to another religion without fear of harm or death, where a free press can criticize Islam for certain things like sanctioning rape (which Islam does, you know), where opponents of the government can openly criticize or even mock the government and where non-Muslims can preach their faith of choice and build their houses of worship with as much freedom as they can in one Western nation after another? Just one, Lebel.
Susan B says
Lebel, Mr Kahn is a muslim and all muslims practice taqiyya to further the cause of islam. I never ever ever believe what a muslim says and that would include you.
gravenimage says
Of course, Sadiq Khan *never* condemns Shari’ah, as Lebel likes to pretend.
He wrote:
Mr. Khan cannot read into the future and say that Islam is so backward and evil that it will NEVER EVER be anything but evil and thus must be rejected by all of humanity.
………………………
Shari’ah is not apt to become any less brutal.
Really, this is like saying that we should not have any problems with Nazis or the Klan taking over–after all, they both might become completely benign any time now! sarc/off
gravenimage says
Good post, Wellington.
Jay says
Wellington says it straight for us all! I have to wonder about anyone who would want to adhere to Islam. Moderates? they must be very stupid low IQ non-thinkers. Therefore dangerous! Followers!
blitz2b says
Awesome Wellington… Couldn’t have said it any better….
boakai ngombu says
it was the mayor who sought to ban knives … after a time … to allow only dull kitchen knives
(seems the boys down at the mosque were cutting up and bringing disfavor on the umma so’s that Kafirs were preferring to counter indiscriminate knife attacks)
Trump not involved with that action
Terry Gain says
Who in their right mind wouldn’t be upset that London elected as Mayor someone who comes from the most ignorant, hate-filled, violent, backward, and indeed insane culture on the face of the earth?
VRWC member77 says
If Kahn maintains his post long enough, he will Implement sharia and it appears you’re too stupid to understand that, especially since you present nothing to say otherwise. With the banning of “suggestive advertisement under his watch and his prolific implementation of police state tactics of investing more money into stopping “hate speech” crime -talk critical of Islam- is evidence toward sharia compliance. Whether London becomes a full blown sharia compliant metropolis remains to be seen. But to say it’s not trending that way and that no conflict is occurring as result, is spouting off in ignorance.
There’s no point in mentioning the grandiose stupidity of obama in regard to this topic.
Pocatello says
Either you have never read the islamic source texts for yourself and considered the actual facts of our time, or you are a lying troll. Whatever political fantasy you ascribe to mayor khan is surely as stupid as any straw man arguments you are creating for “jihadwatchers”.
Rufolino says
What are your grounds for saying that Jihad Watchers expect Khan to impose Sharia ?
I for one don’t.
But I DO know he wouldn’t be unhappy if it happened !
strong aingel says
Let shari’ah explain the obligation” to you…
UMDAT AS-SALIK (Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law) Schafi’i school designed for use in Dhar al-Suhl (House of Treaty; i.e.Christian or Jewish Lands).
BOOK A: Sacred Knowledge;
a5.0 COMMUNALLY OBLIGATORY
KNOWLEDGE
a5.1 (Nawawi:) The second category (n: of Sacred
Knowledge) is what is communally obligatory
(fard al-kifaya, def: c3.2), namely the attainment
of those Sacred Sciences which people cannot do
without in practicing their religion, such as
memorizing the Koran and hadith, their ancillary
disciplines, methodological principles, Sacred
Law, grammar, lexicology, declension, knowledge
of hadith transmitters, and of scholarly consensus
(ijma’, def: b7) and nonconsensus.
BOOK Q: Commanding The Right And Forbidding The Wrong
q1.1
Allah Most High says,
“Let there be a group of you who call to good,
commanding the right and forbidding the wrong,
for those are the successful” (Koran 3:104).
gravenimage says
He can’t do it all at once–but this is the eventual aim.
Alien Republican says
It seems to me that In Britain the sight of bacon in front of a mosque is considered more hateful than raping abusing children over decades. Nobody speaks of sharia of course but there are clearly two class sentences for supremacists and underlings…
J D S says
Lebel…. London did not choose a Muslim Mayor…you are so misinformed if you believe so…..and he’s done already!
blitz2b says
lebel says “…Its the same stupidity that they believed about Obama…”
One would have to either be blind or a brain dead leftist to think that Obama had the best interest of America in mind during his disastrous two terms in office.
He filled the white house with Muslim brotherhood operatives, gave special concessions to Muslims whenever he could, praised Islam at almost every speaking occasion, went on an apology tour on the onset of his presidency, bowed before the obnoxious obese Saudi lard bucket, reduced the functionality of NASA from space to Muslim outreach, let in millions of immigrants from Islamic countries…. and the list goes on and on…
So where do you get off condemning JW readers in favor of this jackass?
gravenimage says
Lebel is a notorious Muslim apologist.
madpatriot says
Any place that does not get who these terrible people are will reap he evil they are…..ignorance and simple refusal to research or find out…laziness will cause
great harm! What fool would accept such people when they make it clear they want and plan to take over the world with Islam! It is of satan and not anything anyone should want to be a part of!!….For a supposed intelligent world, with technology, we are so stupid to listen to any muslim!!…They are a failed society all unto themselves, but all of a sudden they are pushing in worldwide!…Do you all out there not see that as very strange and a method to get in all the world to try to take over? They are a totalitarian governmental system of subjugation and evil./..satans people now are scattering all over the world with their insanity and no one is doing a thing to stop them…idiots! Until we make them all go back where they came from, we are sitting ducks in a small pond and very stupid for putting ourselves there!
Julian Farmer says
I agree totally with your comments. Moslems can no longer feed themselves thanks to their excessive birthrates that is off the scale. Islam is perhaps the most degenerate inhuman force in the world. Add to this the inbreeding the huge numbers of, disabled offspring, including low IQ- around 68% in Africa and even in Pakistan and we see the result: a Death Cult and absolute mayhem that the “Progressives” have invited en masse to the West. Merkel and May opertae on the same methods, ignoring the dangers and popular concern. Trotskyites both of them. Even Stalin expelled Leon and his mad schemes for global mayhem. Trotsky threatened Mother Russia with similar insane schemes we now see coming to fruition in Europe.
On a recent visit to Paris, I was shocked at the scale of squalor and open criminality of black gangs, preying mantis-like on innocent tourists. The streets of France’s capital city ran with human urine and faecal matter. I watched an African pull his pants down and defecate on the sidewalk.All around were the remans of earlier dumps.
This will eventually lead to an epidemic of horrible disease that will dwarf the Black-Death. There is also evidence of cannibalism not just in France but also Italy. Necrotic flesh eating bugs are already being imported. What we are seeing is slow burn catastrophe of Biblical proportions unfold, aided and abetted by “stupid, nihilist naive “SaveThe World” self-appointed Global citizens.
Such ideas are doomed to failure as they are simply too abstract and shallow to work. Britain is almost gone-ruined by the likes of Idiot Khan. The latter ad his “Progressive” pals should be under arrest and goaled for “Crimes against Humanity.”.
This attention seeking narcissistic evil man has deliberately allowed and encouraged gangs of violent aggressive aliens to reign death and destruction on London, The man is evil to the core, playing his own personal race card to gain a following of fellow emotional vampires. All he talks about is the understandable anger and insults fed-up Londoners send to his Twitter account.
He is a politician for goodness sake. Personal insults are part of the job but because he is a minority, he wages his own “Sympathy Club” in the ultimate attempt to play the victim card. The Police hate himi by the way (Personal friend in MET). The man is a walking disaster. We need a new version of Nuremburg trial and the death penalty brought back.
Carol the 1st says
Sadiq Khan and his ex-brother in law look like ducks and quack like ducks and “protest too much”:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/exposed-sadiq-khans-family-links-to-extremist-organisation-a3179066.html
mortimer says
Let’s look at this word and divide it into its elements: (Islam) + o + (phobia).
Is it ILLEGAL to be OPPOSED to ISLAM (the political ideology)?
Apparently, that is what British LEFTARDS think. (A ‘Leftard’ is someone who claims to be ‘liberal’, but is in fact more of a CENSORIOUS FASCIST… the opposite of true liberalism.)
The LEFTARDS actually want to censor ALL CRITICISM of political Islam, thus making political Islam an OFFICIALLY APPROVED DOCTRINE that is ABOVE ANY AND ALL CRITICISM.
However, according to HUMAN RIGHTS CODES, freedom of opinion and freedom of speech include the CRITICISM of POLITICAL IDEOLOGIES. That would be POLITICAL ANALYSIS or POLITICAL SCIENCE.
Do the LEFTARDS want to ban POLITICAL SCIENCE that has a different view from their own ANALYSIS? That would be PROMOTING THE PARTY LINE just as they did in the USSR.
The UK press has become no more credible than PRAVDA or IZVESTIA under communism!
The UK LEFTARDS are merely neo-Marxists.
mortimer says
The UK should not give up its culture nor import a foreign culture and foreign religion to replace it.
boakai ngombu says
UK should not practice islam (submission).
Cicero says
Alas it is too late. The substitution is too far advanced –
Elrond says
Crime is London has rocketed under Mayor Sadiq Khan , who has been rumoured to have extremeist connections , but its Islamaphobic to mention that crime in London has escalated to record levels and will deteriorate further. Anyone who reports on this fact , must be a racist . Its our fault clearly. Master pychologist mohammed taught his followers always play the victim , be cause it works. Islamaphobes !
gravenimage says
Yes.
Julian Farmer says
A well- spoken friend was investigated for having an “elitist hate accent”. He thought it was a joke but it was not. A migrant objected to his speech as “trying to put foreign people down!”….
This is beyond a joke now, And do you know what the Police advised?That he speak in a more equal manner to avoid upsetting people by his “posh ways”. I thought we had heard everything from PC lunacy but even our accents are “white privilege”, it seems. Does anybody recall the shop owner charged with playing Kung fu music in his restaurant that upset a passing Chinese?
Then there was the case of the Liverpool Police who arrested an opposing supporter for saying his team were rubbish. About the same level of idiocy as Khan. Anything and everything is a potential hate crime these days. What next? Charged with “Possession of a Middle-Class character”/ Utter folly and madness.
gravenimage says
Utterly insane, Julian.
Julian Farmer says
Civil war is coming to UK and it is going to be bloody!
Susan B says
I believe you. However, what will those police and soldiers that are not muslim going to do, attack and kill their fellow citizens while fighting for the mohammedans and their leftest supporters, if any remain. I am asking this in all honesty have no idea how this will work.
Cicero says
No it is not. There is no credible leadership to gather all the forces together.
Anyway the weapon s of the State eg Army, Police. MI5 etc are too well organised for a civil war to happen
A cunning underground movement needs to be built in order to stop the Islsmisation and hopefully to reverse it. It has to start with the Muslims themselves David versus Goliath style
Terry Gain says
An Islamophobe is someone who opposes Islam ruling the world.
Wellington says
Yes indeed. +1
VRWC member77 says
…….and/or a KAFIR who knows too much about the teachings of Islam.
John says
islamoREALIST and islamoREALITY
Susan B says
If you been called and islamophobe you are doing the right things. I consider it a compliment.
Indiana Tom says
Once again, the B-24 draws flak when it is over the target.
Carolyne says
I wear that sobrequet with great pride.
Indiana Tom says
Criticizing any Muslim is Islamophobic Silly people..
Lydia Church says
Regardless of whatever else, when anyone becomes ‘above criticism,’ we have a problem.
Older Canadian says
The way President Trump walks and talks it would appear he is void of any phobias. He shoots straight from the hip, and calls it as he sees it, or simply said, the way it is. Truth may hurt, but it always wins. The left knows this and it is driving them crazy, so crazy they will end up totalling exposing themselves as the sociaist/marxist they are.
Carolyne says
Yes, the left is experiencing a total mass nervous breakdown. Hurrah for Donald Trump’s.
blitz2b says
Yeah…. Just waiting for that red tidal wave to sweep away the annoying blue spurt this November… or else America will be doomed the way Europe is…
If we reject the Trump train now then we may as well join the rest of the world into an age of ignorance with adherents of Islam at the helm.
Cicero says
Yes He makes me chuckle in delight. He is so refreshing !!!
somehistory says
molsims enable terrorism..in one way or another. They either take an active part or they don’t do a single thing to stop it. Terrorism pushes islam to greater fields of takeover and control.
These non moslim enablers who don’t want khan criticized as an enabler due to his stance, and due to his active life as a moslim, should be aware of the advice:
“If the shoe fits, wear it.” kahn didn’t stop being a moslim, hence a terror enabler, when he stepped into the office of mayor to take control of the city. He’s still wearing the shoes of a moslim.
jayell says
Implementing Shariah law is part and parcel.of the mission of anyone who professes any active connection with islam, since islam is controlling political ideology and Shariah is an integral aspect of it. Lebel (comment above) of course knows this full well and is being deliberately misleading when he/she attempts to create some illusion of a ‘Jihad Watch ideology’ separate from islamic ideology when JW is simply doing as its name suggests – observing and reporting on islam and the activities of muslims. If Lebel does not for any reason like what JW discovers or reports, then the problem is with the protagonists (islam and muslims) and not the messenger reporting their activities. If Lebel is attempting to promote islam by denigrating JW’s clearly honest efforts, then he/she is failing because his/her assertions clearly do not match the JW’s evidence, which is available from other reputable sources. Regarding the Great and Mighty Khan of London Town, this character gained his position because he was promoted by a devious politically-correct and morally dubious Labour Party in a city with known left-wing leanings and an increasingly sizeable muslim and ethnic-monority component who could be expected to vote along ‘religious’ and racist lines against an excessively split indigenous and political opposition. That is Khan’s sole claim to acceptability, which is further undermined by evidence of possible corrupt electoral malpractice in areas that would have opposed him. That he has associated with undesirable elements in the past is on record and his diabolical track record in office is known around the world.
Gjallarhornet says
Sic transit gloria mundi. He’s the mayor of London now. We fucked up.
gravenimage says
Don’t surrender yet.
Baucent says
“And this is worrying because of what it tells us about the Corbyn-led Labour Party: that it has been swallowed up by the infantile politics of grievance, identity and offence-taking.”
A good commentary by O’Neill.
strong aingel says
4 LISTS:- …of Members Of Parliament, former or serving, who may be tried for Treason without delay… Peter Hain MP; David Hanson MP; Adam Price MP; Barbara Follett MP; Diane Abbott MP; John Cryer MP; John Trickett MP; Keith Vaz MP; Peter Bottomley MP; Alice Mahon MP; Alan Meale MP; Ian Gibson MP; Sir Teddy Taylor MP; Harry Cohen MP; Betty Williams MP; Ken Purchase MP; Alistair Carmichael MP; Laura Moffatt MP; Peter Bradley MP; Vera Baird MP; Bill Etherington MP; Edward Garnier MP; Roger Berry MP; Angela Smith MP; Brian Iddon MP; Anthony Steen MP; Mike Hancock MP; Colin Pickthall MP; Clive Betts MP; Janet Anderson MP; Neil Gerrard MP; Jane Griffiths MP; Brian Donohue MP; Helen Clark MP; Terry Davis MP; Janet Dean MP; Adrian Bailey MP; David Cameron MP; Louise Ellman MP; Eric Illsley MP; Kelvin Hopkins MP;Ernie Ross MP; Rob Marris MP; Martin Caton MP; Jim Sheridan MP; Martin Jones MP; Paul Tyler MP; Colin Challen MP; David Wright MP; Rudi Vis MP; Tony Worthington MP; Derek Watts MP; Julie Morgan MP; Rev W Martin Smyth MP; Diana Organ MP; Doug Henderson MP; Barry Gardiner MP …
Likewise this list of MEP’s, former or serving may be tried for Treason without delay …
Glenys Kinnock MEP; Gary Titley MEP; Linda McAvan MEP; Glyn Ford MEP; Chris Davies MEP; Chris Heaton-Harris MEP; Claude Moraes MEP; Phillip Whitehead MEP; Stephen Hughes MEP
Likewise this list of former or serving Union Leaders, journalists and divers power-rangers etc may also be brought before a court on charges of Treason without delay… Ken Livingstone; Tony Benn; Roger Lyons TUC President and AMICUS Joint Gen Sec; Dave Prentis UNISON Gen Sec; Tony Woodley TGWU Gen Sec; Billy Hayes CWU Gen Sec; Sir Bill Connor Gen Sec USDAW; Andy Gilchrest FBU Gen Sec; Gordon Taylor Chief Exec PFA; Adrian Askew CONNECT Gen Sec; Bob Crow RMT Gen Sec ;Doug Nichols CYWU Gen Sec; Ed Sweeney UNIFI Gen Sec; Janice Godrich PCS President;Jeremy Dear NUJ Gen Sec; Judy McKnight NAPO Gen Sec; Kevin Curran GMB Gen Sec; Mark Serwotka PCS Gen Sec; Paul Mackney NATHFHE Gen Sec; Peter Pendle ACM Gen Sec; Rosie Eagleson AMO Gen Sec; Steve Kemp NUM Gen sec; Sally Hunt AUT Gen Sec.
These Actors may be properly identified as malevolent Agents of a Foreign State, and should be arrested and dealt with immediately:-
Dr. Siddiqui Muslim Parliament; Afzal Khan – North West rep Muslim Council of Britain; Mohammed Azam – Coalition Against Racism.
The evidence against all individuals is a matter of Public Record; is incontrovertible and is damning.
Susan B says
I thought that in the UK the only real crime is islamophobia. I pretty sure all those traitors on the list are “islamofriendly” so safe from prosecution.
That is a very long list. Scary.
strong aingel says
Let shari’ah explain the obligation” to you…
UMDAT AS-SALIK (Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law) Schafi’i school designed for use in Dhar al-Suhl (House of Treaty; i.e.Christian or Jewish Lands).
BOOK A: Sacred Knowledge;
a5.0 COMMUNALLY OBLIGATORY
KNOWLEDGE
a5.1 (Nawawi:) The second category (n: of Sacred
Knowledge) is what is communally obligatory
(fard al-kifaya, def: c3.2), namely the attainment
of those Sacred Sciences which people cannot do
without in practicing their religion, such as
memorizing the Koran and hadith, their ancillary
disciplines, methodological principles, Sacred
Law, grammar, lexicology, declension, knowledge
of hadith transmitters, and of scholarly consensus
(ijma’, def: b7) and nonconsensus.
BOOK Q: Commanding The Right And Forbidding The Wrong
q1.1
Allah Most High says,
“Let there be a group of you who call to good,
commanding the right and forbidding the wrong,
for those are the successful” (Koran 3:104).
Robin Datta says
I would prefer to give wide berth to such creatures as hornets and rattlesnakes, as a matter of prudence without implying racism (speciesism?) or hatred.
Having spent my first twenty-four years in Pakistan, both West (Pakistan) and East (Bangladesh), all of which was chock-full of Muslims who had evicted and exterminated my folks, I would prefer to give wide berth to Muslims also, again as a matter of prudence, without implication of racism or hatred.
David B. says
Khan’s entire campaign was everything for Muslims and everyone else needs to get to the back of the bus.
Listen to it yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pIeXsNjCo
Andy says
F U KHANT!!!!! You and your political correct Islamic bunch of criminals!!!
Stacy Girl says
The proof is in the pudding. Under khan and his fellow travelers London has become more dangerous.
Lebel says
Really, I am not sure that is true when looking at the official statistics. Are we talking about specific forms of crime?
http://www.ukcrimestats.com/Subdivisions/GLA/2247/
gravenimage says
Could it be Jihad? Might be…
Troybeam says
Anyone who is understanding of Islam and its ways is Islamophobic……getting tired of this comment.
Knowledge is power to save your nation, speak up all who understand Islam and give back the truth using Islam’s own words to defeat this theocracy that threatens lands that are not Islamic. Stop giving respect to a entity that wants to destroy the worlds different cultures to instill Islamic theocracy. Islam does not respect anything, it demands but does not return.
Time to make a stand people, silence only killed the flock without truth there can be no FREEDOM.
aingel strong says
Islam is neither a religion or a culture; it is a constitution. Islamophobia is only something muslims can suffer as islamic sacred law makes fear of being no muslim enough a genuine cause for concern for anyone unfortunate enough to be raised in an ummah. As for attempting to label non muslims Islamophobic, that s the mealy mouthed language of prats.
Lebel says
“Uh, Lebel, you provided a non-answer answer. Khan doesn’t think Sharia would work NOW in Britain (and frankly, I have to take into consideration he may be lying even about this—he is a pretty sneaky guy after all) but he leaves open the possibility in the future.”
Yeah, if Islam becomes as sophisticated as modern Judaism. In other words it would have to change and he is saying that it’s not that now. Why would he say that Islam could never achieve the same sophistication as judaism? Is this the smoking gun? if he was lying and planning a takeover why not just say “no! never in a million years!” – would that not be the smart thing?
This is the same exact nonsense that we heard when Obama was in power. The same fucking thing about secret agendas and shariah.
Wellington says
Islam can’t change, Lebel. The Koran is the final word, word for word in classical Arabic, of Allah. No changes allowed. Anyone, including a Muslim who avers otherwise, needs to be eliminated per Islamthink.
No other religion remotely exhibits this kind of inflexibility, with literally millions of believers waiting in the wings to either directly or indirectly encourage actual violence towards others for deviating from religious scripture.
See, this is what you don’t get. No other major faith produces truly violent believers in droves acting in the name of their religion. 33,000 plus Islamic atrocities just since 9/11 helps prove my point, minus virtually no other religious atrocities since said time.
Yeah, just imagine ten ideologies numbered 1 through 10. And Ideology 6 produces 99% of violent believers acting in the name of their ideology and the other 9 combined produce the other 1%. Think all ideologies should be approximately criticized equally? I rest my case.
gravenimage says
He just meant there were not enough Muslims in Britain then to impose Shari’ah.
Lebel says
“By the way, can you name just one of the over fifty Muslim majority nations where true freedom exists—freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion? Just one, Lebel. I mean a Muslim majority nation where, for instance, a Muslim can openly convert to another religion without fear of harm or death, where a free press can criticize Islam for certain things like sanctioning rape (which Islam does, you know), where opponents of the government can openly criticize or even mock the government and where non-Muslims can preach their faith of choice and build their houses of worship with as much freedom as they can in one Western nation after another? Just one, Lebel.”
I would say Tunisia
https://www.loc.gov/law/help/apostasy/index.php#tunisia
and Bosnia
are good examples
Wellington says
To the extent, Lebel, that Tunisia and Bosnia are exceptions, and I would assert to the extent they are that they are now controlled by Muzzies that many other Muzzies would want eliminated, it still proves my overall point, i.e., that Islam is a mortal enemy of freedom.
And if you have to raise up Tunisia as a beacon of true liberty, again I rest my case. Give me America or any Western nation (before clueless dhimmis were in charge) of true freedom, not Tunisia. I don’t now, or ever, want Tunisia or Bosnia as a model for what liberty really means.
Give up the ghost, Lebel. Islam sanctions death for apostasy (e.g. Sura 4: 89 and Bukhari Hadith 9.84.57) and, egregiously, even sanctions rape (examples to be found in Suras 4, 23, 33 and 70—-“captives of the right hand”). No other religious blueprint does this, especially as a paradigm for action for all time.
But Islam does.
blitz2b says
+1… Well said Wellington.
Unfortunately Lebel is a brainwashed Muslim who will not be able to give up his ghosts that have haunted him since the Islamic chant was recited in his ear as an infant.
Satan has a stronghold on the should of the followers of the Arabian warlord Mohammed.
Lebel says
Good to see you’ve moved tbe goalpost from just one Nation to whatever Wellington thinks freedom is.
Wellington says
Query, Lebel: Is Islam an enemy of freedom of speech, freedom of the press and freedom of religion?
gravenimage says
Oh, yeah–Tunisia and Bosnia are just peachy:
“Tunisia: Muslims beat up and stab president of Tunisian Freethinkers”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/03/tunisia-muslims-beat-up-and-stab-president-of-tunisian-freethinkers
“Bosnia: Recently repaired Orthodox church set on fire”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/06/bosnia-recently-repaired-orthodox-church-set-on-fire
What’s not to like for Lebel?
kouldb says
Sadiq Khan is not a race. Its not racist to criticise him for turning London into a war zone. It’s simply appropriate & reasonable.
gravenimage says
+1
Jeremy Bonington-Jagworth says
Analysis of every ILLiberal article, post, tweet, whatever, anywhere, anytime:
He didn’t say that, though…
– he didn’t do that!..
…offers no evidence for this. But why should he? In the increasingly grating grievance politics of identity and victimhood, proof counts for nought and inference is always enough…
‘ugly dog-whistle politics’. In short, she can’t prove… but she can imply that they contain some kind of secret code that will be audible to more vulgar Britons – the ‘dogs’ in that analogy – who will have their innate ‘Neanderthal Knuckle-Dragger’ stirred up… the uncouth underbelly of British society to acts of hatred or violence…
…confirms that the chattering-class concern… not about genuine discrimination or violence (both of these things are already illegal), but rather is about ringfencing [ILLiberal “Values”] from criticism, surrounding… with a [Truth and Common Sense]-deflecting forcefield. So any commentary… can be casually batted aside as ‘phobic’. Even worse, today’s spat shows that now political debate, never mind differences on religion, can be demonised with the ..Phobia brand…
Must we all hold our tongue because…
And this is worrying because of what it tells us about the [ILLiberal]-led LibLabGreenCon Party: that it has been swallowed up by the infantile politics of grievance, identity and offence-taking. These are no longer traits limited to the so-called ‘snowflake’ generation or people in academia – rather, political parties themselves now embrace and weaponise overblown identitarian sensitivity and self-pity in order to chill political criticism, silence certain opinions, and exercise greater control over what it is permissible to say in public life.
People are using [whatever]… to talk up the division and crisis… apparently visited upon… but right now I am more worried by the insight we are getting into the further drift of British political life into the elitism and censoriousness of identity politics.