“On the far right,” says Salam al-Marayati, “Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Frank Gaffney and others making baseless claims about the incompatibility of Islam and the West increasingly find an audience and place in U.S. politics.”
Islam as taught by its classic schools of jurisprudence teaches the death penalty for criticizing Islam and leaving Islam, the legal inequality of non-Muslims and women, the permissibility of beating disobedient women, etc. Compatible with the West? You be the judge.
My new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS gives the lie to al-Marayati’s soothing falsehoods. It shows that Islam has been set against the West, and other non-Muslim areas of the world, since it began. Nor has it reformed or rejected the doctrines that gave rise to this endless warfare. So on what basis does al-Marayati claim that it is egregious to say that Islam is set against the West? He doesn’t want you to think that it is.
Click here to preorder The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS.
Oh, and by the way: “far-right” is just an empty smear term, designed to make ill-informed people turn away from the person so labeled. It is not “far-right” to want to uphold and preserve the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, and the equality of rights of all people before the law.
Much more below.
“How Anti-Muslim Animus Undermines Years of U.S. Law Enforcement Efforts to Build Relations,” by Salam Al-Marayati, Lawfare, July 2, 2018:
Even before the Supreme Court upheld the Trump administration’s travel ban, trust in law enforcement was eroding—and reaching a nadir—among American Muslims. Many view this administration’s policies as a source of Islamophobia and generalized suspicion of American Muslims. This is a dangerous break with efforts since the aftermath of 9/11 to engage Muslims in the U.S., and it stands to undermine critical partnerships between Muslim communities and law enforcement.
After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, ordinary American Muslims and their leaders pushed back against the ideologies of al-Qaeda. American Muslim communities and law enforcement established powerful working relationships through dialogue and concerted efforts to build bridges.
Actually, the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) actively and repeatedly discouraged Muslims from cooperating with law enforcement.
Hurdles were encountered along the way, including cases involving anti-Muslim trainers at the FBI and New York Police Department surveillance of Muslims.
No one was really “anti-Muslim.” They were anti-jihad terror. Like many in the establishment media, al-Marayati smears as “anti-Muslim” those who oppose jihad mass murder and Sharia oppression of women, gays, and others.
But both sides remained committed to engagement. And those efforts produced results: National security policy focused on terrorist cells immediately after 9/11, then narrowed to lone wolves. Today it focuses on Islamic State-inspired violence through social media instigation. The devolution of terrorist capability is a success—but while that scope has diminished, public fears have expanded from the threat of terrorist cells to risks posed by the mere existence of Muslims in the West.
Cynical rhetorical attacks and the tendency to view American Muslims as suspects rather than potential partners will lead to increased discrimination and, inevitably, exclusion from civic life. The United States is mimicking the ghettoization of Muslim communities in Europe.
In reality, Islamic leaders in Europe have discouraged their people from assimilating. “Assimilation is cultural rape,” said Dyab Abou Jahjah, a Muslim leader in Belgium.
Forces of Fragmentation
On a fundamental level, the ways that law enforcement agencies and officials of both parties thought about and viewed Muslims and Islam in recent years was key to enhancing national security policy. Those security advances and civil rights successes are being undermined by short-sighted or cynical forces at the extremes of the U.S. political system.
On the far right, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Frank Gaffney and others making baseless claims about the incompatibility of Islam and the West increasingly find an audience and place in U.S. politics. Their misrepresentations of American Muslims as threats to the United States or as agents of radical foreign organizations show a lack of understanding or willful mischaracterization of American Muslims by and large. It also illustrates their lack of respect for equality under U.S. law. They aim to exclude American Muslims from civic life and political engagement, or possibly to ban Muslims from this country altogether.
Pure libel. He doesn’t quote us to support these claims, because he can’t, because they’re lies.
Embraced by the Trump administration, these extreme voices have been amplified abroad as well. Notably, the spike in anti-Muslim sentiments in the U.S. mirrors rising anti-Americanism in majority-Muslim countries. Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving, and its gifts include war, terrorism, radicalization, psychological ghettoization and hate….
Note that he attributes “radicalization” to non-Muslims saying that Islam is set against the West. So don’t say Muslims are waging jihad against the West, or else Muslims will wage jihad against the West. Got it?
St. Manuel II Palailogos says
Because Muslims keep pushing it.
Tzaddik says
Speaking of the Regensburg address, one thing particularly strikes me
If God is transcendent, beyond rationality and consistency, why has he made an Universe which, through increased knowledge, gradually reveals these very qualities as emanant from His will?
It seems to me that to deny these qualities in Him is merely a convenience, a way to grant license to ignore them in oneself.
Elisha says
I wouldn’t be paying too much attention to what the Catholic Church says about God, considering they tend to make it up as they go along, openly defying clear Scriptures by placing man’s word above God’s word. Best thing to do is seek Him in humility (Jeremiah 29:13, Psalm 145:18, James 4:6, 1 Corinthians 2:13-14).
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the Lord.
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.” – Isaiah 55:8-9
God bless.
DragarOz says
“I wouldn’t be paying too much attention to what the Catholic Church says about God”
WOW
Joe says
Humans are born with very little and gradually learn. God doesn’t gradually reveal Himself.
Frank Riley says
Could it be because He didn’t make a world as we see it today, but a perfect one? He endowed our first parents with the greatest gifts imaginable, those of free-will and self-awareness. The love He expects in return can only be such when it’s freely given — you can’t force someone to love you. Whatever the transgression of our first parents, it must have been of a very serious nature. Such, anyway, is the Christian story which has the virtue at least of holding together in all its elements — much better, I feel, than the proposition that everything created itself from nothing.
BC says
How do you know it is ‘HIM’ or ‘her’ or it? Because some ancient story teller told you so.
Rid your mind of all the myths implanted in your mind in childhood and start thinking for yourself
JawsV says
Jesus is God. Jesus is male. He’s not a myth. You start thinking for yourself. Moron.
Noel says
Come on, BC, this is a schoolboy argument.
If you don’t know the gender then it is presumed male. That’s the age-old English rule. “It” applies to inanimate objects only.
Keith Jordan says
I agree.
skai says
Tzaddik ”…why had HE made universe which …” How do you know the God is HE? and not she or neutral or have no gender????? .
Save Europe says
To any Muslims reading this : very simply – stay away from Western countries! You are NOT wanted here!
JawsV says
So right.
Save Europe says
????
Jayell says
Hello Save Europe. The great thing about having the grotesquely inflated ego and induced sociopathic stupidity that one gets from being a disciple of the Great Prophet is that one becomes anaesthetised to everyone and everything apart from the sheer sublimity of oneself and one spends one’s days immersed in a narcotic haze of self-righteous self-satisfied privilege through which no gleam of reason can possibly penetrate. Which is why you see them confidently strutting around in their pyjamas or Darthveda gear with complacent smirks on their faces, secure in the private delusion that they are the very epitome of human perfection to whom all must pay homage. Now, try telling someone like THAT to s☆d because you think they’re total rubbish and they’re not welcome.
Save Europe says
Actually I have told various members of the Death Cult when I have encountered them on the street, that they should consider ‘fornicating off, back to whence they came.’ The curious thing is that they are gob smacked and have no come-back whatsoever.
Ann Marie says
Hear, hear!! Agree 100%
There are 57 muslim majority countries they can reside in… Their main objective is to invade western countries, play the victim, get special status and then take over..
They can’t fool us any longer.
J D S says
Robert don’t have enough time and neither do I, to really spill the beans on this guy. If one wants to really know about him just Google him and one will find many bad things he has said and done..His mouth, and actions, has dug a hole that he can never crawl out of. What he states about the west and Islam is pure bunk….Just another Muslim who came here from Iraq,when he was a young boy, and instead of embracing this great country for what the country is he is just trying, as many have done, to remake our country….He speaks with a forked tongue.. Check out MPAC thoroughly he speaks for them.
Georg says
Would like to hear this guy’s opinions on why East Asians bring so little problems and instead prosperity where they go in this supposedly bigoted West. As a bonus, would be good to get his thoughts on South Koreans resisting by over half a million the potential influx of 1,000 Yemeni refugees into their peaceful and prosperous country.
RichardL says
if we count Indonesians among the East Asians we find something very strange in the Netherlands: they have caused very few problems while the Mohammedans from Morocco and Turkey cause all sorts of strife. I personally find islam and the Mongoloid race incompatible and whenever I see a Muslim Indonesian or Malay with a veil I find them unspeakable ugly. The same goes for Chinese Muslim women. I think it is more aesthetical than ethical/cultural.
Emilie Green says
This is actually very good news to hear. As the truth about Islam seeps out, expect more and more of this defensive posturing. Actually, from my perspective, the truth about Islam is not looking simply seeping out; while it’s not gushing out, there is a steady stream. More and more are learning the realities of Islam as Muslims continue to act just like Muslims. There’s no holding it back now.
JawsV says
“The truth about Islam…while it’s not gushing out there is a steady stream.”
I agree. You don’t see “they’re misunderstanding their religion” anymore. You used to see that blarney all the time.
Shmoovie says
Seconded.
This fellow blames the “far right” (yawn) and the defensiveness throughout makes him sound like a criminal who realizes his story is falling to pieces.
Walter Sieruk says
Many jihadist /Muslims have the Islamic agenda and quest to conquer the nations of the West for Islam. Either “by hook or by crook” as in by engaging in the stealth jihad or in the violent and deadly “jihad of the sword.” Likewise part of all this in is by the Muslim infiltration of the Western countries which is being accomplished by the great number of Muslim migrants who are entering the Western nations.
As a Former Muslim had revealed in his book when he wrote that “there has been large –scale immigration into the West, from Islamic nations…of Muslims who are implacably hostile to the West, have no desire to learn why the West became so rich and tolerant , and certainly have no desire to assimilate. They feel no gratitude of allegiance to their Western host nations; their only obligations are to fellow Muslims.”
The author further clarifies by adding. “The mere presence of so many Muslims in the West had affected the domestic and international behavior of governments, whose foreign policy is dominated by fear of offending their Muslim population ready to riot on the slightest pretext. Those unassimilated Muslims are committed to introducing Islamic laws in the West. , and they are able to do so cleverly exploiting the freedoms created over the centuries by the infidels.” [1]
As for that above statement that the “Muslim population [is] ready to riot on the slightest pretext…” This is valid evidence that the old saying is true .Which is that “Evil is always looking for an excuse.”
On this very important subject another scholar in his book informs the reader that “Islamic involvement in the political process is much more advanced in Europe than in the United States.” and he further makes it known that “Of all the continents of the world, Europe is probably the number one target by Muslim strategists who are seeking world dominance.”
[1] THE ISLAM IN Islamic terrorism by Ibn Warraq, page 354
[2] HOW ISLAM PLANS TO CHANCE THE WORLD by William Wagner , pages 176, 195.
FYI says
It is islam that is the lie that keeps on giving.
The Religion of peace?
1,400 plus years of murder and mayhem in the name of their allah: an antichristian,antiSemitic{koran 9:30}misogynistic god of hate and violence who admits to being “the best of deceivers”{koran 3:54}in his koran with all its warped commandment-of-God violating teachings.
And its self-confessed false prophet muhammed{al tabari 6:111}who proudly boasted about being a terrorist{bukhari 4:52:220}Muslims are required to follow the example or sunnah of this mass-murdering{abu dawud 4390},slave trading{sahih muslim 3901}psychopath.
Islam is the lie that keeps on giving.But a lie has no legs to stand on when carefully scrutinized.Thanks to the internet!
islam: a house of cards built on a foundation of shifting sands
boakai ngombu says
agree, FYI
islam (submission, subjugation, abasement) is opposed to “…endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights ….
the steady hum of suspicion needs be kept going
JawsV says
Muslims like this arrogant creep with his “i-phobia” BS make me despise and loathe Islam even more.
Got that, al-Marayati? So, tone it down, camel jockey. Try and invent something instead of mooching off the West.
b.a. freeman says
he *is* inventing something; Jaws; he is inventing lies!
😀
Paul says
“US Muslim leader claims “Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving””
Funny, I thought it was the relentless jihad against the West – as well as against the
rest of the world – and its increasingly absurd and self-pitying apologists which was
the “gift that keeps on giving”, so to speak.
Thank goodness we have people like this highly esteemed Mohammedan
gentleman to allay all my concerns!
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
Islam in the West is a cancer in the body politic of the West. One knows this or should know it. Those who assert otherwise are demonstrating either: 1) their mendacity; or 2) their ignorance.
It’s this simple. And yet it’s this complicated.
JawsV says
“Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving…” — al-Marayati
Nope, it’s entirely true. Islam’s been “vs” everyone else since Islam began. Man these Mohammedans are accomplished liars. They learn taqiyya from an early age. Much more about Islamic lying in Nonie Darwish’s book, “Wholly Different” (2017).
Laura says
Islam IN the West is the gift that keeps on taking.
don vito says
Few words, but to meat of the ideology,well done kufr
Terry Gain says
It’s as if 1396 years of Muslim conquest didn’t happen, 9/11 didn’t happen, the current Hijra isn’t happening. When it comes to lying, Muslims are in a league of their own. This guy has guaranteed his place in paradise with 72 virgins.
Jaladhi says
Yup, lying and hypocrisy go together very well!
PRCS says
Re: right wing/far right:
Islam is NOT a warm and fuzzy “progressive” ideology.
It is a very conservative, even right wing ideology.
Libs just don’t seem to “get it”.
Jaladhi says
Islam and Fascism are compatible! No wonder Muslims worship Hitler!!
PRCS says
Agree.
Georg says
Note to posterity:
A book of blind hatred creates malcontents.
Jaladhi says
What the heck this guy is talking about that” Islam and the West are not incompatible” is not true -. In fact Islam is incompatible with the whole humanity. Show me a nation where Muslims live in peace with non-Muslims – non, zilch! Hell, Muslims can’t even live peacefully even in total ly Islamic nations and that says it all about Islam and Muslims!!
granddaddy says
“Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving, and its gifts include war, terrorism, radicalization, psychological ghettoization and hate….”
If that’s not a veiled threat, I don’t know what is. As for the “lie”, everything Robert Spencer says here about Islam can be easily verified by reference to the Quran, the hadiths, and sharia. Islam has been at war with every non-Muslim nation it’s come in contact with since its inception 1400 years ago. As for what Salam al-Marayati says, it’s just more lies and distortions and is a good example of Islam’s campaign of political warfare that has been going on in this country for decades now. Is Islam a part of our cultural past? Does Jesus tell us it’s acceptable to lie? Does the God of the Christians and Jews tells us to “kill them wherever you find them”? What accord has Christ with Satan? Is there even one part of our culture of free speech, free thought, and equality, that is mimicked in Islam anywhere in the World? The truth is, Islam teaches hate, oppression, ignorance, intolerance, and war, and only a gullible, ignorant fool would believe this Salam al-Marayati (if that’s even his real name).
“They aim to exclude American Muslims from civic life and political engagement, or possibly to ban Muslims from this country [USA] altogether.” Since he brought it up, the fact is, they do nothing but cause trouble and look for ways to cause trouble, everywhere they go. Even so-called “moderates” will not condemn terrorism. They came here for invasion, that’s all. It’s not complicated. Just like they do in every other country not-Muslim. This is mandated in the Quran. They have no other business being here. There is no cultural similarity, not one. Even Islam’s claim to be a part of the Judaeo-Christian religion is a sham. All one has to do is compare the Bible to the Quran and he will see. They have no part in our culture, and they know it. For them to assimilate, they would have to leave Islam entirely. Islam does not assimilate. Let them go back to where they came from.
gravenimage says
US Muslim leader claims “Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving”
……………………..
What a load of Taqiyya from Salam al-Marayati. Islam hates the free West and seeks to destroy us.
Obama invited this creep to a summit on fighting “extremists”, despite his ugly history of defending Jihadists. He heads a Los Angeles-based Islamist group founded by two Muslim Brotherhood operatives. He is also a grotesque 9/11 “Truther”, who says Israel was behind the attack.
More ugliness here:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/obama-invites-islamic-extremists-to-summit-on-fighting-extremists/
And this lying thug’s wife Laila was appointed by Bill Clinton to the US Commission on International Religious Freedom. What a travesty. So they’ve been working the system for quite some time.
Wellington says
Excellent post, gravenimage.
Mark Swan says
Yes indeed Salam al-Marayati—quite a Muslim—thank you gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Wellington and Mark. And Happy Independence Day to you both!
Georg says
Disgusting. Dems sure have a way of being associated with anti-American this, that, and the other.
Jacqueline Knoblock says
They don’t seem to realize that their heads will be the first to be lost, because they will be the closest.
Michael Copeland says
“Islam vs. the West”
Indeed, as confirmed by the Muslim Brotherhood’s secret Internal Memorandum:
“destroying the Western civilisation from within….”
“Using deception to mask intended goals…”
Westman says
As you have pointed out, Graven, paving the road for Islam is his job and profession. Al-Marayati can do nothing else without losing his income, status, and possibly life if seen in error by Islam . It must be similar to being a high-level politician – life becomes about remaining a politician.
gravenimage says
True, Westman–but I think Al-Marayati is fine with shilling for Islam.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“… making baseless claims about the incompatibility of Islam and the West increasingly find an audience and place in U.S. politics.”
I would say that the claims made in this document are not baseless and are well founded in fact:
https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/media/article%20pdfs/Shariah_VS_Constitution.pdf
Lydia Church says
It’s not until muslims take over a land and gain control that they admit…. they actually do want to impose sharia law, oppress all dissent, stifle all freedom of speech and truth, and kill anyone who still dares to resist. That is when they confess… that… ooops…. they actually do wage jihad… “sorry folks… we just couldn’t risk telling you the truth until… we gained the upper hand… so that we would be successful and not defeated by those who know the truth! That’s why we wanted you to remain in ignorance until… it was too late.” Alas!
All you need to do is look at lands controlled by islam and see what they are like, if the words don’t say it… the deeds will, but it is a sharia tyranny and both say it. Look at Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Sudan, and so on, pick up the pattern. It doesn’t take a genius to see the truth.
gravenimage says
+1
infidel says
One of the slickest and cleverest strategies that Muslims use is when they say that NON MULSIMS HAVE TO CONSTRUCTIVELY ENGAGE WITH ISLAM.. after each and every grisly terror attack.. I often wonder as to what is constructive to actively engage with those that eternally and relentlessly plot Ur destruction. It is like having a discussion with a rapist who did wrong to one of ur women folk or a murderer who murdered a kin.. In other words .. to constructively engage with Islam means… accept Dhimmitude and Sharia..
infidel says
Also to add: To engage constructively with Muslims mean to TURN A BLIND EYE AND A DEAF EAR TO ALL THEIR REGULAR JEHAADI ATROCITIES AND HOLD HANDS WITH THEM AND SING KUMBAYA and of course to accept Islamic Supremacy bull..
Shmoovie says
Agreed!
It is incredibly insulting for al-Marayati to mention “post 9-11”.
Where has there been muslim outrage over terror acts prior to 9-11? After that day, Americans and Westerners were treated to sickening images of celebration in those parts of the world, and closer.
(Of course today’s media wouldn’t consider reporting that truth.)
infidel says
In this sordid context of Taqiyya another ISLAMIC TRUISM from the annals of the infidel:
With Muslims U ARE DAMNED IF U DO AND DAMNED IF U don’t….
JayT says
Subverting history wherever Islamists go. This is what Islamic leaders are prone to do and seemingly like a bear around a honey pot – they can’t resist the temptation.
We as a nation place our highest trust in the creation of the founders of this country, which is why the U.S. Constitution is referred to as the highest law in the land. Thus, given the words and deeds of Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams, who were clearly determined to push back the encroachment of Islam, we would likewise place our trust in our founders when it comes to Islam.
Maybe this is why devil-behind-a-mask, Congressman Keith Ellison, felt the need to lie his ass off and say that Jefferson got a hold of a Quran because he admired the religion. Yeah right, Jefferson was so enamored of Islam that he immediately formed the U.S. Marines and sent them to Tripoli to battle Islamists capturing American sailors as hostages.
You want to call Jefferson and Adams Islamophobes? If you say they are, then you are asking Americans to believe you know better than our founders. If you say they aren’t, then you would find yourself in support of their beliefs and actions, like the rest of us.
Eur says
There are two kinds of Muslims, those who want to impose an Islamic theocracy through holy war and those who want to impose an Islamic theocracy through a smile and alluding to multiculturalism. The most dangerous are those of the smile.
Indiana Tom says
The most dangerous are those of the smile….and the dhimmi Western politicians who join with them.
Peter says
The truth is Islam is not only hostile to the West, which its founder Muhammad already attacked without provocation (Byzantine territory) 14 centuries ago, but “Islam against the Rest:” i.e., ALL of non-Muslim humanity (99.9999%, but now down to about 80%), which Islam and its adherents proclaim a divine mandate to exterminate, subjugate, enslave and/or forcibly convert.
Aussie Infidel says
Salam al-Marayati claims that Islam and the West “established powerful working relationships.” However in 2012, the Secretary General of the OIC, Prof Ekmelliden Ihsonoglu, during his tour of Australia, was asked about 9/11. If as al-Marayati claims, Islam and the West were making such great progress, why did Ihsonoglu remark, “That was a great problem for us, because now we will have to confront the West before we are ready.”
That doesn’t sound like a peaceful comment, but rather a prelude to conflict and that things could be more difficult than anticipated.
Marayati is just another aggressive, lying Muslim trying to appear nice to gullible kafirs in order to deceive them. He uses their standard tactic when debating this issue, of referring to Mulims (the people) rather than Islam (the ideology which drives all this violence.)
There is every need for American Muslims – and indeed all Westerners – to view Islam with suspicion.
There will never be peace until Islam and its criminal ideology is wiped from the face of the Earth.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Aussie Infidel.
gravenimage says
Good post, Aussie Infidel.
infidel says
Islam vs. the West is the lie that keeps on giving, and its gifts include war, terrorism, radicalization, psychological ghettoization and hate…… this idiot spews…
ACTUALLY WHAT A VEILED THREAT THIS IS.
Mark Swan says
Yes, infidel,
Not allowing for personal responsibility, is one reason for the Muslim
victim thinking, where everybody else gets blamed and could be punished
even for the Muslims’ own caused circumstance.
So criticism, no matter how earned, is feigned as an attack on honor, they
will try to silence the criticism by pretending to be overly offended, by accusations,
threatening, harming, or even killing the messenger. Maybe this just describes
Human Nature, at its worst, yet very expected and prevalent among Muslims,
they demand un-merited favor.
Giacomo Latta says
The only way what the Media are calling Islamism (sounds better than terrorism) these days can catch on with supposed Muslims is to call Islam a culture. That is something a Muslim not all that religious can sink his teeth into. The only way the West can give Islam a foot in the door is to keep using words like ”Islam” and ”religion” in the same sentence. Now we all talking about Islam like it is some kind of religion. That only helps jew-haters, self-hating Christians and westerners and people who don’t mind seeing their co-citizens until it is they who get killed. Can the religious drivel already.
terry says
Poppycock! This man is full of himself, as well as deliberately using deception! “They shall cry peace, peace, but there is no peace!” The facts are all before us, all over the world this so-called religion of peace brings terror, torment, rape, pillage, war, death, and destruction! No, they are everywhere the aggressors, seeking to overthrow nations that are not already under the oppression of sharia laws; sect against sect seeking to become the caliphate! Refusing to transform their koranic and hadithes, issuing fatwas of violence, oppression, and self-justification for their deeds, done in the name of a false peace! No, not even where they pretend to be victims are they the victims- it is they who in the name of conquering the world make victims of all the peoples of the world! They have from the beginning of their days used lies, deception, war, rape, pillage, and plunder to spread their so-called peace! So go ahead and lie and cheat and pretend you are telling the truth, being just, fair, and equitable- your deeds from the 7th century until now prove otherwise! Your attempts to smear those who would call you out on all this, demand you truly reform your practices, denounce your drive to conquer the world by your prophets sword, really assimilate, treat all others equally, denounce and have arrested those imams, jihadist, and others of islam that kill, destroy, rape, plunder, and maim; open up all the lands where your sharia laws oppress other people to fair and just rights to live and exist; it is up to you sir, and all those who follow islam to do these things! Not expect us to accept that you do not when you do! Not expect us to let you get by with it, and acquiesce and condone it, but for you and those who live by the sword of the prophet to make that a real, true spiritual struggle- and STOP the way you have been going! It is up to islam to change, not us to change for islam! It is up to muslims to live in actual peace with everyone else and cease trying to lord and rule over all others! It is for islam to live among us not seek to force all the rest of us to live among islam! This is the truth.
David E Munson says
Many liars lead Islam. Deciet is their goal. Arm yourself people.
Indiana Tom says
Islam is moderate and peaceful which is the opium of the dhimmis.
eduardo odraude says
Indeed, Islam is a totalitarian lie that keeps on giving.
OldFatBaldSociallyIneptRon says
The west can hate slavery without hating slaves. We can also despise Islam without animosity against most Muslims. On a large plantation the closest direction came from a slave called the “driver” who was in charge of particular group of field slaves and expected to keep them working. Drivers were often more brutal and strict than a white overseer because they feared losing their position. The position held a lot of power over the other field slaves…but it was a precarious position, since the overseer could remove the title and make another slave the “driver” at any time. Islam is societal / cultural slavery that Muslims are either born into, or naïvely and ignorantly submit themselves into.
The European says
From the Battle of Tours (732 A.D) to the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (1212 A.D) where a coalition force of the kings of Navarre, Castile, and Aragon defeated the Almohads, thus giving a devastating blow to Islamic rule over Spain from which the Muslims could never fully recover; from the victory of Dimitry Donskoy, the grand prince of Moscow, over the Muslim Tartars at the Battle of Kulikova near the Don river (1380); and from the siege of Vienna ( 1529/1683) when the Ottoman Turks tried in vain to conquer Central Europe to the uprisings of the Greeks, Hungarians, Rumanians, and Bulgars against Turkish rule, our forefathers always knew that Europeans would be slaves forever under Islamic rule if they couldn’t find the strength withing themselves to fight off the Islamic invader or to rise up in arms against Islamic rule.
How can we be so forgetful about Islam? When did the West start suffering from amnesia as far as Islam is concerned? Did it start in the sixties or seventies of the last century when leftist liberalism and cultural marxism became triumphant in Western societies? Did it start much earlier, in the 19th century perhaps when we stopped being wary of Islam because Western colonialism and imperialism were victorious all over the world and Islam seemed no longer being capable of defying us militarily, scientifically, politically,and economically?
But Islam is still a threat to the West. It may not be able to defeat us on the battlefield ( although I am not so sure about that since Islamic countries like Pakistan possess nuclear weapons – and Turkey and Iran probably too), but there are other ways of waging jihad. “Peaceful” migration from Muslim countries is one of them, population growth is another one; if Muslims continue to have high birth rates, they will outbreed us by the end of this century. And one must not forget their daily encroachment on the cultural/ political level. Once they are in Western countries, they refuse to assimilate and start using our democracies, our liberal laws and human rights against us, asking for the empowerment of Islam and the introduction of sharia law.
Outbred, outfoxed, and being led by corrupt, vile and coward-like politicians we might face defeat, and subjugation and slavery won’t be just a faint memory from the past.
When getting up in the morning and when going to bed in the evening, every Western leaders -Trudeau, May, Merkel, Macron …- should remember the words of Theodore Roosevelt when he said about Islam:”
Christianity is not the creed of Asia and Africa at this moment solely because the seventh century Christians of Asia and Africa had trainend themselves not to fight, whereas the Moslems were trained to fight. Christianity was saved in Europe solely because the peoples of Europe fought. If the peoples of Europe of the seventh and eighth century , and on up to and including the seventeenth century, had not possessed a military equality with, and gradually a growing superiority over the Mohammedans who invaded Europe, Europe would be at this moment Mohammedan, and the Christian religion would be exterminated. Wherever the Mohammedans have had complete sway, wherever the Christians have been unable to resist them by the sword, Christianity has ultimately disappeared. From the hammer of Charles Martel to the sword of Sobieski, Christianity owes its safety to the fact that it was able to show that it could and would fight as well as the Mohammedan aggressor. The civilization of Europe, American and Australia exists today at all only because of the victory of civilised men over the enemies of civilisation, because of victories through the centuries from Charles Martel in the eighth century and those of John Sobieski in the seventeenth century. During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today, nobady can find in them any “social values” whatever, in the sense we use these words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan infuences are concerned. There are such “social values” toaday in Europe, America and Australia only because during these thousand years, the Christians possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do -that is, to beat back the Moslem invader.” ( Theodore Roosevelt, Fear God and Take Your Own Part, p.70)
James K. says
To this Salaam person: if Islam vs. the West is as you say, “The Lie That Leeps On Giving,” after seeing Muslims in action, that means you are essentially the Liar who keeps on babbling.
SK says
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/revolution-muslim-islamic-state/introduction
This is a report about RM, which facilitated jihadist thought in the US, co-written by Morton and an NYPD officer.
Max says
Salam al-Marayati, “Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Frank Gaffney and others making baseless claims about the incompatibility of Islam and the West.
Is his guy assuming that we are all stupid or left-wing extremists?