“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” (Qur’an 4:34)
Even Supreme Court lawyers.
Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” — Aisha (Sahih Muslim 2127)
“Triple Talaq debate shocker! Maulana physically assaults woman advocate of Supreme Court during live TV show, watch video,” Financial Express, July 18, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The incident took place during a live debate show aired on Zee Hindustan news channel. One panelist Maulana Ejaz Arshad Kajmi physically assaulted fellow woman guest and Supreme Court lawyer Farah Faiz.
During the live debate show, another fellow lady panelist had also accused Kajmi of using objectionable remarks. She also broke down and was seen being consoled by the anchor.
Television debate shows are very popular with the audience but one such programme on Triple Talaq took a violent turn and ended up in an unpleasant note. The incident took place during a live debate show aired on Zee Hindustan news channel. One panelist Maulana Ejaz Arshad Kajmi physically assaulted fellow woman guest and Supreme Court lawyer Farah Faiz. While the lady anchor tried to intervene and stop Kajmi, but he was in no mood to stop. Later, he was taken into the custody from the studio after ZEE Hindustan filed a complaint to police. ZEE Group tweeted saying it does not support any violence as well as condemns and criticizes the incident….
Linda says
Outrageous, but they should never have seated a woman right beside a Muslim man.
mariam rove says
Well said! It is like putting fire next to cotton!!! M
Andy says
This video should be an educational tool in all Judeo-Christian civilized countries for all citizens to watch during any voting year with a questionnaire to follow, with the question on the ballot. Which would read as such: Do you want this type of immigration for your country, Yes or NO.
Carol the 1st says
Actually it looks like she was the first to land a direct blow (at :45). He, in return, acted with typical aplomb.
Susan B says
Linda you mean male, there is no such thing as a muslim man.
Linda says
Good point!
Agha Ali Arkhan says
Oh, well! Can’t do anything to upset a muslim, eh?
Linda says
More like even looking at them sideways sets them off.
Agha Ali Arkhan says
Probably a good move to block my inane comments. AAA
Jaladhi says
This guy should have been in a cage before being allowed to discuss Quran so that he could not have assaulted that Supreme Court lady lawyer. Disgusting – when Muslims can’t answer the truth about Quran they come to violence. isn’t that the model Mo/allah established? There is no decency in Islam as we see it everyday! I hope the judge throws the book at him and send him away for long time!
Terry Gain says
What he did was wrong but he does not deserve a long time in jail. We non-Muslims should not hesitate to demand justice for and from Muslims. Justice does not require that we adopt harsh Sharia standards against Muslims.
Dave says
she hit him first and she deserves it. Just because she is woman she has no right to hit a man and not expect hitback.
Its called equal right and equal responsibility.
Only foolish Left/Liberals believe woman have such rights to abuse/assault man and not get back in kind.
And look at fate of such countries like sweden, UK, Germany all going down the jihadi tube and men don;t want to step up to help the feminazis who made anti-male laws and treat them worse than animals at home and courts support such attitude
Linda says
I don’t agree with you.
Susan B says
Dave get back in your MGTYOW women hating cage. I bet you would just love to beat up some women to show them who is boss!!!! I do believe you have the makings of becoming a mohammedan.
ELIZABETH says
I saw it the same way Dave. She hit him first…probably unintentionally but it gave him the opening to defend himself. No matter what gender.
Dave says
Elizabeth, No. it was intentional. she kept provoking him mocking him and he got frustrated and called her “bitch” and she slapped him .
And Susan B. Its third wave feminazis who take undue advantage of anti-male laws to go around abusing and beating men and think its their birth right who are wrong.
If you don;t want to get abused and beaten don’t go there.
Susan B says
Dave go back into your female hating group MGTOW so you can complain how evil women are and how abused poor men are. Funny that it is men that rape and murder not the other way around.
Oh and stop calling indoctrinated leftest feminist they come in all genders but you seem only interested in beating down the female members. I have a question since you have such a hatred of women how do you move around in a world where 50% of the population is that which you hate.
Susan B says
He did a full out assault there was nothing defensive about it??? Remember that muslim males are allowed to beat women it is in there evil book.
gravenimage says
Responding to a swat with a full on physical assault is not defensive.
And look at “Dave’s” belief that laws against beating your victims is “feminazi”. Why doesn’t he just convert to Islam now?
Paul Klee says
Anyone watching the video can see that Dave;s observation is correct. She slapped him first. He overreacted but the initial provocation came from her. Lets not conflate a spat like this with religious conflicts between Hindus and Muslims.. This is a battle between the sexes.
Susan B says
Really so I guess if this is a battle between the sexes you want it to be physical and I guess females will be left bloody in this battle because they do not have the physical power to defend. You must love the concept of beating up women and saying they deserve it. Good for you. Has you wife had to call 911 yet. What ever happened to real men???
Valyria2525 says
Look closer, he hit her breast with his index finger first. IMO he deserves a slap on the face much harder than the slight one she gave him.
Valyria2525 says
Boo effing hoo, he was mocked and provoked… such a snowflake….Muslim scum deserve to be provoked, mocked and much worse. If he can’t handle a heated debate without resorting to vulgarities then yes he should be slapped. Besides it looks to me that his fingertip was hitting her breast a time or two when he was gesturing at her. And for that he deserves much worse than the light slap she gave him, she should have kneed him in the nuts as hard as she could, then kneed him in the face when he doubled over.
Terry Gain says
Dave
I looked at the video again after reading your comment.
The Muslim man escalated the situation by standing up and over the woman lawyer. She then stood up. They were then yelling and pointing their fingers at each other. The man who had been seated on the other side of the woman lawyer then approached the Muslim man, at which point the woman took a swing at the Muslim man. It is not clear if she made contact. The Muslim man then responded by hitting the woman. He is guilty of assault. And perhaps she is too.
Cynthia says
Exactly what I was thinking!! Niether seems innocent in this encounter with both of them behaving aggressively and with a lack of restraint. We teach our children to keep their hands to themselves in elementary school and she definitely was the first one to wave her finger in his face and then hit him in the face. They both should be ashamed.
Carol the 1st says
Most of us have no way of knowing what words inflamed both parties. He stood up first and waved down at her (not yet a crime). She rose to the perceived challenge and both ended up finger-waggling at very close quarters. I doubt he tapped her breasts at all, but if so It was likely accidental and not with targeted malice. If Dave is right that he called this woman a “B*^ch then this explains why she suddenly reared her hand back and deliberately swatted him on the face (at :45). His pride and hair-trigger temper erupted and were it not for the men present I believe he would have brutalized her.
The battle of the sexes seems to be the dark side of the “Vive la difference” coin. We should not attempt to thrash it out too often on a site dedicated to studying the jihad.
Joe Scott says
Exactly, but he is no man, he is a savage coward
Ren says
She hit him first.
gravenimage says
I guess she deserved that beat down, then…
Linda says
I personally don’t think that’s a very good excuse for his attack on her. She gives him a little swat and he launches into to a bunch of blows to her. Everyone knows that men are generally stronger than women and there is really no situation in which a man hitting a woman can be justified. These men can not and will not control themselves. Disgraceful!
gravenimage says
+1
PRCS says
There are situations in which a man can/should hit a woman.
gravenimage says
Sure–self defense is certainly such an instance.
But no–this Mohammedan was not defending himself.
Carol the 1st says
Restraining a woman is in order but a direct hit is unmanly unless absolutely necessary.
eduardo odraude says
Islamic culture is so different from Western culture. Often a Muslim male does not realize that a man gains in honor if, having been slapped by a woman, he does not hit back.
In this case, the Muslim man thought he would be more disgraced by not hitting back than by beating the hell out of a woman. Such a man, in the West, would be utterly disgraced if it became known he did that. Not just disgraced, but seen as a thug and a criminally violent. But in Islam, that’s just putting a woman “in her place” and protecting a man’s “honor”. A study a few years ago found that Muslims do 91% of honor killings worldwide, and 96% of honor killings in Europe.
This beating is just one example of the huge, irreconcilable difference between Islamic culture and Western culture.
Linda says
When Islam is so clearly incompatible with Western civilization, Islam and the West should part company. I don’t see a problem with just admitting that the two ways of life can not co-exist. I don’t really understand this fixation with always trying to fit a square peg into a round hole in the West.
Carol the 1st says
At least this TV program seems to have anticipated the level of stoic dignity and had many bouncers and bodyguards present.
Paul Klee says
If men are strong than women, why provoke them by striking first. She initiated the first blow and he overreacted. They were both wrong but she started it.
Linda says
“She started it.” That is such a childish argument.
Valyria2525 says
So your solution to a kid shooting a paintball gun at you, is to nuke the kid and their entire neighborhood?
Susan B says
+1
Terry Gain says
No, he started it by standing over her. They both behaved improperly. It would be nice to know what was being said. It appears that he insisted on talking over the moderator.
Any man who hits a woman is a fool.
Lane says
In my opinion
I see a woman whose own country is fighting off a islamic takeover. No one has the right to hit anyone unless it is in defense of one’s self.
gravenimage says
Paul, surely you know that in Islam merely “fearing disobedience” is considered provocation in Islam, and men can beat women for it.
Moreover, if you believe that “provocation” is just cause for physical assault, then how can you object to Muslims attacking or murdering Infidels? After all, we openly “provoke” Muslims by not submitting to Islam.
the infidel says
the woman hit first, are there no real women left, only ones who can’t control themselves. these women cannot and will not control themselves, disgraceful. see, this is called equal and identical treatment between the sexes.
Linda says
You don’t understand the concept.
Valyria2525 says
Well in a truly equal and identical situation the muslim scum would have slapped her lightly back, not all out attacked her with full force. But muslim is gonna muslim until they are put out of our misery.
gravenimage says
True, Valyria.
Peter says
Yep
She started it
Now the call to arms of the misandrist brigade rings loud.
Blah, blah, blah
gravenimage says
She should not have swatted at him. But thinking it is “misandrist” to condemn him then full on assaulting her is grotesque.
Really, are you *applauding* Muslims beating women?
Peter says
Definitely NOT.
As a matter of fact, if I was there, I would have punched that jerk in the face (the male one, that is).
This comment will no doubt be used by those who I refer to later, to justify their view of me being just another example of a thuggish species ————- i.e. male
I was just having a crack at those who have festering anti- male sentiments, oh so evident in some of the posts (mostly women).
I’m sick and tired of feral females proclaiming to the world that they can act in any manner they wish, perverse or otherwise, and expect no adverse reaction when they act in such a way.
Those who are all too ready to take the podium at any opportunity and endlessly proclaim the brutish nature of the male of the species.
Like I said, when THEY do get up and start screeching, all I hear is blah, blah, blah ……
Having said that ….. thank God, there are, in this world still some men who are men and women who are women.
Susan B says
Women are not hating men where are you getting that crap from. This response section has a number of men saying she deserved to be attacked because of a little slap after he was in her face and jabbing at her. So you agree with that??
This is about islam and do not forget that. It is under islamic law that not only would he be able to attack her but kill her with no repercussions.
Peter says
You ask where I get that crap from Susan.
It comes from the surging swill of hate filled anti-male movements churning out present day Mary Daiys, spewing out their hatred of the male gender. Infecting admirable feminist movements (which I support), Enticing them to not just fight for equal rights, but to bring to the front a demonization of men as their main cause. A movement gaining increasing popularity in recent years.
This phenomena has been well documented and is readily accessed on line if you wish to find it. Thankfully most of the feminists see these hate filled ferals for what they are and refuse to buy into their pathetic view.
You may consider this some sort of tangential rant, with scant reference to the original story, but if you look close enough you will see elements (albeit subtle) of the “syndrome” in some of the post.
Susan B says
So because there are crazy leftest out there, you now feel it is your right to beat up women. Got it.
gravenimage says
Peter wrote:
This comment will no doubt be used by those who I refer to later, to justify their view of me being just another example of a thuggish species ————- i.e. male
…………………………
I don’t consider males to be thuggish–unless they are beating women.
More:
I was just having a crack at those who have festering anti- male sentiments, oh so evident in some of the posts (mostly women).
…………………………
No, opposing the beating of women is *not* “anti-male”. I don’t believe that there is anything intrinsically masculine about beating women.
More:
I’m sick and tired of feral females proclaiming to the world that they can act in any manner they wish, perverse or otherwise, and expect no adverse reaction when they act in such a way.
…………………………
This woman was protesting Muslim abuse of women to begin with–how dare she do such a thing?
More:
Those who are all too ready to take the podium at any opportunity and endlessly proclaim the brutish nature of the male of the species.
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Actually, this is about Muslim abuse of women, based on the texts and tenets of Islam. That you appear to identify with this so strongly is quite concerning.
Robert Spencer is a man–and a very brave one. For some reason, he does not believe that men have to beat women.
More:
Like I said, when THEY do get up and start screeching, all I hear is blah, blah, blah ……
…………………………
This woman was objecting to the abuse of women sacralized in Islam. Do you *really* consider this “blah blah blah”?
Do you react the same way when an Anti-Jihadist like Pamela Geller or Ayaan Hirsi Ali or Brigitte Gabriel talks about Muslims oppressing and slaughtering Infidels? If so, why?
More:
Having said that ….. thank God, there are, in this world still some men who are men and women who are women.
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You mean women who passively accept the horrors of Islam? Why would you applaud that?
More:
You ask where I get that crap from Susan.
It comes from the surging swill of hate filled anti-male movements churning out present day Mary Daiys, spewing out their hatred of the male gender. Infecting admirable feminist movements (which I support), Enticing them to not just fight for equal rights, but to bring to the front a demonization of men as their main cause. A movement gaining increasing popularity in recent years.
This phenomena has been well documented and is readily accessed on line if you wish to find it. Thankfully most of the feminists see these hate filled ferals for what they are and refuse to buy into their pathetic view.
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I can find no reference on Googling to any “Mary Daiys”.
Yes, some “feminists” do hate men–and I have always condemned this. No one posting on this thread has ever condoned this that I have seen.
As for you supporting feminist movements, that seems a bit questionable when you are here not just applauding Muslim beating of women, but claiming that women don’t have the right to complain about Islamic mistreatment of women to begin with, characterizing it as “blah blah blah”.
More:
You may consider this some sort of tangential rant, with scant reference to the original story, but if you look close enough you will see elements (albeit subtle) of the “syndrome” in some of the post.
…………………………
No–again, objecting to Muslims beating women is not hatred of men.
Peter says
You have bookended your post with the inference that I’m applauding violence against women, and like a dog with a bone you hang on to that false view with dear life.
And in a Cathy Newmanesque style you have equated all I’ve said with that premise.
You use obvious non sequiturs to “prove” I’m applauding the bashing of women. Uri Geller could learn a lot from your technique.
In your mind I approve of violence against women and with that clouding your judgement you flavour all that I’ve said with that intent.
Usually I don’t respond to people when they are so rigidly biased but I needed to tell you ” Mary Daiys” should of read “MaryDalys”. Although “Mary Daly” would be more correct for the purpose of Googling. I just use the plural in my post to refer to the collective.
AGAIN and lastly …….. I abhor violence against women, I sincerely hope you don’t twist that into a pretzel.
gravenimage says
I have just been taking Peter at his word. If he now wants to change his tune, that is his prerogative.
Rarely says
Ren
Yes she did. They were both “debating” very aggressively but I don’t know what was being said. It’s difficult to see who is more at fault as both were out of control. It is unwise to overly provoke anyone when they are extremely agitated even if you are too. What happened has nothing to do with him being muslim.
peter says
It has everything to do with Islam and being muslim male . That is what Mohamed did and even worse and he is the role model for all muslims to follow . You are ignorant if you did not know that.!
Rarely says
Duh. Thanks for letting me know. The next time a muslim hits a woman I’ll know it’s because of islam. Duh.
Don’t be an idiot.
the infidel says
so, aisha hit mohamhead then he hit her? is that what you are saying?
eduardo odraude says
Rarely,
You think a woman slapping you justifies you in beating her unconscious? You don’t see that a man who does that is, at best, totally lacking in reasonable self-control, and more likely some king of a thug? Yes, she was unwise, but he was criminal. Big difference one should not get confused about.
the infidel says
she hit him, which is criminal.
he hit her multiple times, which is also criminal.
if he was a real man, he would have given her one good slap….. for gender equality purposes.
Krishna says
i agree true this has nothing to do with islam
gravenimage says
The whole forum was about Islam and its abuse of women. Did you miss that?
Carol the 1st says
The article says the forum was about “triple talaq” (easy divorce). It tends to skew our perceptions if we inaccurately believe he forum was about the physical abuse of women.
Gart says
Yep she sure did Ren.
Alien Republican says
Agree. He should have treated her like a man and knocked her out in return.
Susan B says
Alien so you think that men have the right to full out assault women? What if a man is doing something inappropriate and slaps a man. For you he now has your permission to hit he till she drops. God help your wife and daughters if you have any.
the infidel says
if a man hits another man and that man knocks him out, you wouldn’t care.
but suddenly, because it is a woman who hit first, the rules suddenly have to change?
I thought women were for equal rights.
why the double standard?
Susan B says
Men are stronger and can kill a women with one blow. She slapped him yes but he was poking his finger into her breasts and was acting very aggressive and dangerous. His attack was wrong.
Yes most humans are for equal rights that does not mean that the stronger man has the right to attack and hit women.
In my opinion there are two cut in stone differences in the sexes, women give birth and men protect. That does not mean they both can not be doctors or what ever they choose.
So you think that women should not have equal rights under the law??? I would love to hear your respond. So how should women be treated, in your opinion, in a free country??? Perhaps given only 50% of equal rights under the law, should they even be allowed to vote? I am really interested in your opinion on this.
IanB says
To give you any respect I can only conclude that is a deliberately facetious comment.
A real man would only use sufficient force to defend himself if attacked by a woman and commensurate with the level of threat. As in this instance if a woman attempted to slap me, as she did him, I could have easily blocked it with my forearm, and if necessary grabbed and twisted her wrist and she would not have been able to continue. I would have controlled the situation. To hit back like this Muslim barbarian did was excessive and uncontrolled. To have knocked her out as you suggest would have been worse and cowardly in the extreme.
the infidel says
are you saying women are less than men?
you sound like a muslim there.
don’t you know, men and women are equal and identical?
feminism has taught you nothing sunshine.
Susan B says
Your hatred of women is showing. Are you sure you are not a muslim.
Women can not win in a physical fight that does not make women less valuable. Men can not give birth but that does not make men less valuable. What the hell point are you trying to make???
gravenimage says
No, I don’t agree that a man should respond to a slap from a man by knocking him out.
Of course I would care–this is assault, and is a criminal offense.
Marty says
This must an illustration of the religion of peace we hear so much about.
Linda says
Religion of peace, my @$$!
gravenimage says
Video from India: On TV show, Muslim cleric physically assaults female guest, a Supreme Court lawyer
……………………
More proof that Muslims can’t debate. That she is a woman makes it all the worse as Muslims see it.
And Muslims don’t want anyone messing with their Triple Talaq, where they can summarily divorce any woman that bores them. Whereas women are often not able to divorce a husband who is beating and threatening to murder her.
Linda says
This “religion” should be banned from civilized society once and for all. It’s a disgrace and so are it’s followers. It’s a blight on humanity.
PRCS says
That was tried with the Calcutta Qur’an Petition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Calcutta_Quran_Petition
Linda says
Interesting. I didn’t know someone had already tried to ban Islam. Thanks for the info.
Krishna says
that book is joke
Alien Republican says
How much of the debate did you understand Gravenimage ? He MIGHT have been insulting her but the only thing for sure is that the woman started violence.
gravenimage says
Alien Republican, Infidel is a trusted poster here, and he is from India. I never said he insulted her; according to Infidel, she called him an “animal” (see below).
Yes, she swatted him first, which was wrong. But he did not, say, ask security with the show to set rules, nor did he just swat her back–instead, he reacts with an all out assault.
This is *very* Islamic.
pemba says
In Islam and Muslims community, hitting the woman is considered religious act.
their prophet has mentioned clearly in quran to strike woman. To Muslims all over the
world is part of religious honour to strike, kill, rape and humilia women.and make women sex-slaves.
Islam is not religion for human beings, it is some kind of evil-craft to create radical Islamic terrorist in
the world.
Linda says
I think Islam is pure evil. Period.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Yes, but actually some Muslim women defend Islam
http://diabolik-85.skyrock.com/3273060006-Une-femme-qui-defend-l-islam-c-est-comme-un-dinde-qui-defend-le-jour.html
Picture caption: a woman who défends islam is like a turkey that stand up for the New Year turkey. As tradition requires, in France we do not eat turkey on thanksgiving but on the New Year s’day. In French turkey (dinde) means the animal but also a stupid woman.
Linda says
Very appropriate.
gravenimage says
Yes–it is important to point out that some Muslim women support Islam–some even wage violent Jihad.
Emilie Green says
So predicable. Muslims will use violence at the drop of kufi.
Almost as funny as the Star Wars cantina scene,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfy5Esue_ls
infidel says
Let me explain what happened: The MAD MULLA claims that the lady called him a JAANWAR, which means ANIMAL in Hindi.. But then she was right na!!! The lady mildly slapped him because he was at her face and was threatening her.. And that’s when this animal really showed its animal side 🙂 🙂
Elrond says
Infidel , if anyone is in your face they are violating your personal space and you can legally defend your self. If they are threatening you its even better. You go round town getting in peoples faces and threatening them , a strike against you under such circumstances would be classed as self defence. But shes a kaffir and shouldnt be disrespecting him , plus shes a woman so she should have known her place. ? Praise Allah
Carol the 1st says
No, it would not be classed as self-defence (the best self-defence is usually dignity).
Farah Faiz, runs an NGO called Muslim Women’s Quest for Equality in Uttar Pradesh. She was one of the petitioners in the triple talaq case in the Supreme Court. Last year, the top court declared that the practice was unconstitutional.
She is a muslima. It looks like some are getting “uppity” and plan to write their own script.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Infidel.
Linda says
Anyone who can’t see that Islam is a perversion by now, must be deaf, dumb and blind.
Rolf Wittwer says
TV-ZEE Group schould NOT SUPPORT ANY SUCH MUSLIM ANYMORE!
They do not accept and never agree any other Religion or any different lifestyes and
they want take over the planet by force.
Finally they want spread totally backward orientated Islam and terrorize all Nonmuslims.
The so called “Muslim Cleric” shows how Islam “works”, but all of them claiming day by day how “peaceful” they are!!!!
Something has to be done by UN or others very soon, to stop these people!!!!!
Linda says
Someone has to do something about them, and sooner, rather than later, but Saudi Arabia heads the UN human rights panel, so I don’t think the UN is going to do anything about Muslims.
Cicero says
The U.N. has a bloc of 57 Islamic nations .it advances Islam and Muslim causes.
Linda says
So, in other words, the UN is hopeless.
IanB says
Trump should defund the U.N. and kick it out of the USA.
James K. says
The UN is as useless as nipples on a bull.
Carolyne says
The UN is certainly hopeless insofar as Western culture is concerned.
I think this woman hit him first and he overreacted. But then that’s the nature of Islam. I don’t think men are beasts. In fact, I rather like them. Viva la difference.
Susan B says
Linda there is a light of hope. The US has pulled out of the insane and bias UN Human Rights Council. I have put a link below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPwsDW-rtkg
Linda says
That is good news. Thank God for President Trump.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noted this being a good move at the time. I have also been quite impressed with Nikki Haley.
Billy Chickens says
Maybe he said something to her that he needed swatting for. Nevertheless, the entire scenario shows irrational base behavior from almost every person.
Rarely says
There is no justification for a man hitting a woman.
HOWEVER, I have been in and seen arguments where a woman in the argument has said things or acted in a certain way that a man would never say or do for fear of inciting the other to violence. Women in arguments sometimes rely on the fact that the man won’t hit her to say the most provoking things. Well surprise!! Sometimes they do, especially if hit first.
Don’t tell me that any of you haven’t seen or experienced the same thing.
How that may or may not apply here I don’t know because I don’t know what they are saying.
gravenimage says
She called him an animal, and then he proved her right.
IanB says
Spot on gravenimage. Perfect summing up.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Ian.
Rarely says
She called him an animal AND slapped him. What else went on in that argument.
peter says
I know what the woman was saying .She was calling him an animal which is the perfect description of that rogue who happened to be one of the debators . A muslim is a muslim is a muslim . I am content that he did not stab her or murder her in front of TV which is custormary for muslim man as in honor killing
somehistory says
moslims don’t allow even a word, or a “look” without reacting . How could this creep allow the slap… however it was administered or why…to pass? He wanted to hit her before she slapped him as can be seen from the person on his other side grabbing his arm to prevent such an attack.
If that other person had not grabbed his arm, would he have been the first to hit? It is entirely possible. Violence is never far from a moslim, esp if he/she sees or hears criticism of islam.
His wife probably gets it on a regular basis.
Peter says
And he probably hits her as well
Eur says
Every time I am more convinced, the only solution with the Muslims is that they live isolated … or the thermonuclear solution.
Linda says
You’re right. They can’t even get along with other Muslims, but if they were just separate from the rest of humanity, let them work out their sectarian differences on their own.
paul budrunas says
This is for Elrond…having studied Islam for 5 years now I can say without fear of successful contradiction, you are a propagandized, brainwashed and sorry piece of Islamic S##t.
gravenimage says
Paul, Anti-Jihadist Elrond is describing how *Muslims think*–not saying he agrees.
Peter says
This is for paul budrunas…having studied paul budrunas for 5 seconds now I can say without fear of successful contradiction, you are a propagandized, brainwashed and sorry piece of non- Islamic S##t.
Susan B says
So Peter anyone that has read and studied the koran or the history of islam is a “propagandized, brainwashed and sorry piece of non- Islamic S##t.”
Funny I thought that the truth sets you free.
Peter says
Oh dear
Has that completely gone over your head Susan
gravenimage says
Is Peter actually defending the horrors of Islam here?
Or is he saying that not appreciating such defense goes over our heads?
Peter says
Let go of that bone GI
gravenimage says
All I can do is go by what one says.
Linda says
Particularly on this story, after some reflection, I am thinking that some of the people who post comments are more like trolls trying to inflame conversations rather than honestly having something they want to say. No website is immune to a few trolls every once in a while.
Carol the 1st says
Paul…I took Elrond for a muslim too and it didn’t help that he started off with a dumb remark about in-your-face threat justifying physical violence. Naturally as a kaffir I believed I was dealing with another dumb muslim. Elrond could use the Sarc button.
Ashley says
This came off as a foreign Jerry Springer episode to me. I honestly wonder if the belligerent and aggressive behavior was staged for ratings and shock value.
Susan B says
No this was not staged, acting insane is as normal as breathing for muslims.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Susan. I’ve seen dozens of talk shows from Dar-al-Islam with Muslims turning violent.
Here’s just one show, from Egypt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sC5qkMGEnE
Niemoller says
these people are truly demented if they think that’s entertaining.
gravenimage says
I think it is more that the devout Muslim cannot help but be violent.
IanB says
What a pig he is. Looks like one, acts like one. I’m sorry for insulting pigs.
Carol the 1st says
No, Ashley, it’s for real. Here’s a classic (I believe the TV show failed):
Muslims TV Fights Funny Complications – Pure Comedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br_jia1U3Ng
Proud Kaafir says
It is the woman who hit him first. I wish the man could give her a good slap. All his attempts went waste. This Mulla does not deserve a blame though normally they are at fault.
gravenimage says
This wasn’t enough of a “good slap” for you? What exactly did you have in mind?
IanB says
If in the unlikely event she had aimed a slap at me I would have effectively blocked it and she wouldn’t have tried it again.
Esperanza says
The moor deserves to be kicked in his balls.
IanB says
He doesn’t have any.
Arnold Jackson says
Somebody needs a little soy in their diet.
jayell says
Well, we have a few interesting TV debates here in the UK when some participants come close to using anglo-saxon vocabulary, but nothing that quite as dramatic as the video clips here – although an acid-tongued satirical commentator called Bernard Levin (who made a career out of being totally obnoxious) did get a punch in the face on a live Saturday night show back in the 1960’s, but I can’t recall us having any of that sort of fun since. I wonder if our British shows will ‘liven up’ a bit as we import more and more of these delightful characters to our shores?
IanB says
Did you miss Rod Hull’s “Emu” (puppet) attack on Michael Parkinson?
Best TV fracas ever!
Unfortunately I can’t find it on Youtube.
jayell says
I saw that. Brilliant! And don’t forget Sooty hitting Harry Corbett on the head with a hammer (“When I nod my head, hit it”). I can think of a couple of UK television presenters who might benefit from a touch of the amateur dramatics on their programmes, but apparently we’re too civilised for that in the UK – apart from a certain 4-5% recent addition to the population, that is.
FYI says
I was hoping the Ninja {@0.04 secs}might intervene to stop the fight..
“Oh Banzai!hai…eahhh…ohayo gozaimasu!”
But no…i was wrong..
Peter says
I think she kicked off the whole thing.
She’s married to Donny Yen
IanB says
To give you any respect I can only conclude that is a deliberately facetious comment.
A real man would only use sufficient force to defend himself if attacked by a woman and commensurate with the level of threat. As in this instance if a woman attempted to slap me, as she did him, I could have easily blocked it with my forearm, and if necessary grabbed and twisted her wrist and she would not have been able to continue. I would have controlled the situation. To hit back like this Muslim barbarian did was excessive and uncontrolled. To have knocked her out as you suggest would have been worse and cowardly in the extreme.
IanB says
That was intended as a reply to the repulsive comment by Alien Republican about knocking her out.
Linda says
As a general rule, men are stronger than women. If a woman is really attacking a man, he only needs to use enough force to restrain her. He could also leave the immediate vicinity to extricate himself from her attack. I haven’t seen any Western people engaged in debates starting to throw punches. I think this is because they understand how to debate issues. I don’t think third world countries are as familiar with the rules of debating.
eduardo odraude says
F’ing coward. Real brave when it comes to attacking a woman.
IanB says
+1
peter says
BBC is so hypocritical in the coverage of Indian events .If it was HIndu attacking a woman it would have made headlines . Sexual attack on increase in India and oppression of minorities on raise . Not a word about this atrocious event simply because the attacker happens to be muslim .Shame on you BBC . You are not even worth the name your organization stood for !
eduardo odraude says
Examples, from the core Islamic texts, of Islam’s founders striking women:
http://quotingislam.blogspot.com/2011/06/examples-of-islams-founders-striking.html
David M says
It’s always funny when a fight breaks out on live TV.
rich says
Errrr…has anyone actually watched the video?? SHE SLAPPED HIM FIRST!
I would have punched her right in the face myself.
I’m no fan AT ALL of Islam, I get it, but the simple fact is that SHE physically assaulted him first.
Susan B says
That tells all we need to know about what kind of male you are, and it is not a man.
Linda says
Agreed.
Peter says
Susan B is spot on Dave
You’re no man.
A real man also thinks about his own protection .
I’m a real man.
You hold her so she can’t hurt me and I’ll punch her in the face.
Susan B says
Aw.. spoken like a true mohammedan male. No such thing as a mohammedan man. In any case of course you would want to knock her out how dare she defend against a mohammedan pig that was in her face and jabbing his finger into her.
Islam is from the depths of hell and that is where it will go.
Peter says
I wasn’t talking about her.
I was talkin’ bout you Susie Q
Lol
Linda says
Outrageous!
Susan B says
Peter you are a treasure, you must be loved in your circle of female hating friends. You do not have the guts to attack me or any women but you will most diffidently be standing on the side lines cheering when a women gets attacked and beaten. The phrase I would use for you is “sideline bully” not brave enough to do the dirty work but an enthusiastic cheerleader. Do you have pom poms by chance?
rich says
Beautiful.
Peter says
On the contrary dear Susan.
I do have the guts to attack you, as I said … as long as someone is holding you.
In essence Susan I’m just sitting around bored shitless, aimlessly poking a stick in an ants nest just to see what results, which may be considered some sort of perverse amusement. I used to have a wind up watch …. I guess I miss it too much. As a matter of fact I do love women (the ones that ARE women) and I have had occasion to step in when a woman has been at risk of physical violence and will continue to do so. But sadly (for some….i.e. probably you ) and thankfully (for others —- i.e.mostly , me) I am an incurable stirrer and as such, i am generally misunderstood (intentionally so).by those that don’t know me. So in this fleeting moment Susan I ask you to never take me too literally, for I am not as bad as I would have you believe I am.
Now that I have that off my chest ………Susan can you see the humour in kicking a small fluffy dog over a back fence?
gravenimage says
I don’t see the humor in kicking little dogs–that Peter does speaks for itself…
So now we are presented with the coy choice that Peter is either a thug, or else is posing as a thug in order to wind up good people. *Ugh*.
rich says
If you want respect, you have to show respect. I will keep my hands off of you just as long as you keep your hands off me. If you slap me, I don’t care if you are a woman, you’re going to get punched right in the face.
Don’t like getting punched in the face? Keep your f*cking hands to yourself and act in a civilized manner. And drop the fake outrage, Susan, and Linda; the woman started the physical altercation. Glad I’m not married to either of you beasts.
Peter says
There’s a beer on the bar with your name on it rich.
Just one problem Susan and Linda are here.
And they don’t look happy.
This puts me in a bind ……… whose side am I gunna take when the shit hits the fan.
You gotta a coin there rich?
Linda says
Funny how your threats seemed to slip by the moderators.
gravenimage says
Linda, posts here are not moderated–although they can be reported to Jihad Watch.
Right now, I think letting such ugly posts stand is probably more instructive.
Linda says
Of course, you’re right, gravenimage. Come to think of it, there is no requirement that everyone who posts a comment on here must be an intellectual. Somehow, I get the impression that “rich” does most of his thinking with his fists.
Carol the 1st says
Rich…that attitude could cost you a lot someday. Fear and love don’t tend to coexist. A female is not a “little man”. She deserves to be treated differently.
duh swami says
Try that with Ronda Rozzi champ…
Peter says
Been there …. done that.
Hell ….rich held her so tight, she passed out before I could deliver my knock out left hook….. damn.
While she was laying there Gina Carano came over and said “well done boys”
Rather Not says
I speak urdu. They’re using a mixture of urdu and Hindi.
It’s hard to tell what’s going on thanks to even the moderator yelling all the time.
Here’s what I can make out.
The mullah suddenly yells “jaanvar toom hai.” Which translates to “You’re the animal.” The structure of the sentence and the intonation implies that she called him an animal first.
He then yells “hamme jaanvar bula rahi hai.” Which translates to “she’s calling me an animal.”
After that I can’t make out much.
Looking at the video it seems they were exchanging verbal insults, she took a whack at him, triggering that full on assault.
The woman in red is faking it all.
I think the TV channel knew exactly what they were doing. Seating these people next to each other would lead to this situation.
Interacting with agitated muslims always results in violence. It’s in their blood.
kouldb says
It’s India. What do you expect? Their national IQ hovers around ‘challenged’ at the best of times.
eduardo odraude says
India has had and continues to have many brilliant scientists and mathematicians.
India is not fully developed yet because for a long time it fell prey to state socialism. It was democratic socialism, but it stunted economic and cultural development for decades. India has to a large extent emerged from state socialism in the last couple of decades, and is now rapidly developing.
Susan B says
The only thing holding India behind is islam. Eradicate the death cult and India will shine.
gravenimage says
The vile kouldb hates Jews, as well. This is about Islam, not India. There is nothing in India that tells men to beat women.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Still, if you look closely, the Hindu guy on the right actually started it by making it physical.
David B says
Islam loves women as long as they are quiet and take any and all abuse from their husbands as direct by their Pedophile in Charge (usually a local imam).
This video shows what happens to any woman speaks up against abuse to women as directed and required by islam.
gravenimage says
+1
Brother Charles says
Not taking sides ,But the woman struck at the man first .
Susan B says
You just took sides.
Peter says
And SO did you……… well before this post
Susan B says
Yes I did and did not hide it. You said you didn’t take sides.
Peter says
I.m not referring to your stance on Islam, Susan
And nowhere in this post did I comment on which side I take (pro or con).
gravenimage says
That Peter believes there are two valid sides to beating women says it all.
Peter says
Oops
That bone just snapped in half
Alien Republican says
“The woman struck the man fist” is a simple, factual observation. Now enlighten us how you would describe the scene accurately “without” taking sides ?
I see that the man “violently retaliates with punches”. Am I taking sides ?
Duh…Robert Spencer is a brillant man but the headline to that video is beneath his level, on par with headlines like “Israeli Army killed 3 palestinians” after being attacked first. Ooh – don’t say that ever again, it would be “childish”.
infidel says
In a video clip from Pakistan that I saw a few years back, the female anchor was threatened with public rape then and there on the sets by the man whom she was interviewing…
gravenimage says
No surprise.
Pete says
Both are muslims so it doesn’t matter who hit first.
It’s their cult behaviour
Susan B says
It is my understanding that he was muslim and she was Hindu and I also have determined that the discussion had to do with a muslim man being able to divorce one his wives by saying I divorce you 3 times. I found this info on the internet. Islam is a cult that abuses and subjugates women so no surprise that the muslim man wanted to beat the crap out of the women lawyer.
gravenimage says
This site says that she is Muslim–but I have also seen pictures of her with a Bindi (Hindu forehead “dot”), and certainly she is dressed in a Hindu manner here, although that is not unprecedented with moderate Muslim women in India. She attended a Hindu women’s college.
https://www.dreshare.com/farah-faiz/
In any case, she stands against abuse of Muslim women.
gravenimage says
And no–I also stand against Muslim abuse of other Muslims.
Thinking that it is immaterial that Muslims abuse women, children, and minorities is quite appalling.
Carol the 1st says
Her bio states she is muslim and her parents were muslim also.
Linda says
You have to remember that Western cultures had the Age of Chivalry. A lot of other cultures didn’t have this, so whereas Western men may advocate restraining an attacking woman, a lot of other cultures would and do advocate a smack down of the woman.
Susan B says
That is because Western civilization is built on Christian ideals. Jesus told me to love their wives more than they love themselves.
Linda says
Too bad cultural Marxism crept in. We’ve really had a lovely culture.
Susan B says
Should told men not me to love..
Lavéritétriomphera says
I think that they do not love themselves, there is even a probability that they hate themselves. And they motto could be : “Thou shalt hate thy neighbour as thyself’.
Carol the 1st says
Western women are no longer hindered in their attainment of free agency and can easily take a hike.
For everything lost, there is something gained.
Linda says
True.
duh swami says
There sure are a lot of brave men posting…
Carol the 1st says
Wait until they get home.
Krishna says
this has nothing to with islam and she is the one who started by hitting him lightly but he shouldn’t have responded such agression at least at live tv so both of them are responsible for the mess
eduardo odraude says
A man reacting that way to a woman is much more likely to happen in an Islamic context than in many other cultural contexts. Therefore, the likelihood is that this does have to do with Islam.
One could only determine that for sure by finding out the specific views of the thug, how he justifies his brutality. Did he do it in part out of a set of Islamic cultural assumptions? Probably.
Chivalry — which is intimately related to Christianity — is part of what brings restraint to many men if a woman gives a slap.
But to judge by this comments thread, I guess there are today a lot of men out there who resent certain forms of feminism (the man-hating kind) so much that they blame all women and reject all chivalry or anything reminiscent of it. Rather tragic. Because feminism is not always man-hating or extreme, and not all women are to blame for the man-hating kind of feminism.
In the US, at least a few decades ago, the ideal was not to hit a woman who merely slaps you. That self-restraint was portrayed in numerous films.
For example,
Around 4:45 in the following video, Cary Grant gets slapped by Sophia Loren, and does nothing in return.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCq6mtpwpCw
Alien Republican says
Seems very old fashioned.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7jXgFvCnB4&w=560&h=315%5D
Susan B says
Alien we get it you hate women!!!!
eduardo odraude says
It has become old-fashioned for a woman to slap a man, but I don’t think it is old-fashioned for a man to restrain himself physically if a woman merely gives a slap. (Of course, if the woman is bigger and stronger than the man, that alters the scenario somewhat, but usually the man is bigger and has much greater upper body strength than the woman.) Or, if it is old-fashioned for a man to restrain himself after getting a slap, we should remember that being old-fashioned is not always bad. Some kinds of “progress” turn out to be disastrous economically, politically, and morally.
gravenimage says
This clip is from the 1997 movie Jackie Brown.
Robert Di Nero plays Louis, a former bank robber and felon then involved in a plot to steal drug money. He is presented as having such a hair-trigger temper that he murders his accomplice in the middle of the heist, jeopardizing the job. He is later killed in turn by one of the other crooks.
Alien Republican pretending that this character presents the ideal of modern Western manhood is simply ludicrous. He is considered violent and unhinged even by his fellow criminals.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Eduardo.
pemba says
it is in quran to strike woman, mohammed did it too.
James K. says
The UN is as useless as nipples on a bull.
gravenimage says
This is the sort of thing that the “Triple Talaq”–which is being debated in the above story–leads to:
“India: Woman forced to sleep with father-in-law to satisfy Qur’an’s requirements for remarriage”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/india-woman-forced-to-sleep-with-father-in-law-to-satisfy-qurans-requirements-for-remarriage
gravenimage says
Here is another woman being threatened in India for opposing the “Triple Talaq”:
“India: Muslim group offers cash reward to anyone who stones and chops off hair of women’s rights activist”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/india-muslim-group-offers-cash-reward-to-anyone-who-stones-and-chops-off-hair-of-womens-rights-activist