Constantinople fell to the warriors of jihad on May 29, 1453. Usually after reporting that, Western historians turn their attention away. But in my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, I detail what happened next. The Byzantine scholar Bessarion wrote to the Doge of Venice two months after the conquest, in July 1453, saying that Constantinople had been
…sacked by the most inhuman barbarians and the most savage enemies of the Christian faith, by the fiercest of wild beasts. The public treasure has been consumed, private wealth has been destroyed, the temples have been stripped of gold, silver, jewels, the relics of the saints, and other most precious ornaments. Men have been butchered like cattle, women abducted, virgins ravished, and children snatched from the arms of their parents.
So much for the much-vaunted Islamic “tolerance” in Europe, the tales of which Islamic scholar Akbar Ahmed is using to fool gullible Westerners today, and soften their resistance to mass Muslim migration into Europe and North America. Don’t allow yourself to be fooled: arm yourself with the truth by preordering The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS — click here to do so now.
brane pilot says
When a Civilization wants to die, it is hard to prevent it from doing so.
Europe, and many in the USA, actually want to see their civilization destroyed because it is not ‘perfect’. The media and clueless western politicians have been very successful in selling the narrative that ‘Islam is Peace’, Muslims are innocent, smiling young girls with scarves in their hair, and what they offer is heaven on earth. Anyone who disagrees is obviously in the grip of some sort of phobia or psychological disorder. People just do not want to be bothered with reality.
Hari Singh says
One of the Reasons Constantinople fell is that the other part of the Roman Empire Western Europe refused to help. The Turks also did the same in India but for hundreds of years.
gravenimage says
Some in the West *did* help. Not enough, though.
Rob Crawford says
And, sadly, some of the “help” was worse than no help. Western Europeans sacked Byzantium decades before the Turks did.
gravenimage says
Rob, no one was describing that as “help”.
There *were* Westerners who fought alongside Greeks in the defense of Constantinople. Surely you are aware of this?
Rob Crawford says
There was no western empire by the time Islam appeared. The current nations of Europe were beginning to form, and many of them sent troops to fight the Crusades. In some cases, kings went, risking not having a kingdom to return to.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
FYI.
Rob Crawford you are correct about the Sack of Constantinople (1204) but like any story, as one looks into it, it becomes clear that it is a lot “grayer” than at first glance.
The simple version is that this sack (as part of the Fourth Crusade) was retribution by the Venetians for an even dirtier deed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Latins and other related machinations) done on them by the Byzantines.
It’s very drawn out and complicated but the moral at the end of the day is that if one engages in internecine disputes, the Mohammadans can and will taking advantage of it.
gravenimage says
True, Flavius.
I wish all Christians had stood together against the threat of Islam. This is a lesson for today, as well.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“One of the Reasons Constantinople fell is that the other part of the Roman Empire Western Europe refused to help.”
If by “the other part of the Roman Empire” you mean the various kingdoms and city states then this is not entirely true.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/05/ramadan-day-13-thought-for-the-day-from-robert-spencers-the-history-of-jihad#comment-1909257
Janice Disher says
Flavius, I read that during the 4th Crusade, the “crusaders” were ordered to sack Constantinople because they were drifting away from Rome. Rome was losing power and influence in the East. After the sacking of the city, the muslims just waltzed and finished up.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Janice Disher, please see my FYI to Rob Crawford.
gravenimage says
Janice, you are mistaken. Rome did not order the sack of Constantinople. In fact, those involved were threatened with excommunication by the pope.
And Constantinople was not drifting away from Rome–there have been a full blown rift between the Eastern Orthodox and Western Catholic Churches two centuries before.
J D S says
Proving that to thwart off an enemy nations need yo band together…Proof that it works …….WWII…..One can say what they will and today it seems that only one leader, president Trump, though flawed in some of his actions, seems to see where Islam is headed and is trying to slow or even stop its onslaught…though Saladan is not at the head of a huge Islamic army rampaging through America, even so Islam is at war with the west because that is what Muslim do and has done since its conception by the madman muhammad..Hitler was a madman and the WORLD sent him to hell……..So????
Cicero says
Yes Hari . You are correct.
India suffered the same terrible fate as Constantinopleat the hands of the invading Islamic Armies.
And yet ,today, the Muslim population in India is protected, given a wealth of opportunities and, any one who challenges this or critiques Islam is persecuted and hunted down – especially by the secular Indian media
Sam says
Agreed %100!!!!!
tony said says
If civilization wants to die all it as to do is make it illegal to be born. Western civilization by this definition is already dead, and all we see now is the progressive rotting of the corpse’s flesh.
tony said says
If civilization wants to die all it as to do is make it illegal to be born. Western civilization by this definition is already dead, and all we see now is the progressive rotting of the corpse’s flesh. I never wrote this comment before.
gravenimage says
Actually, you posted it twice.
And where in the West is it illegal to be born? What rot.
rms says
Keen to get the book. You’ve been teasing us for months and months.
gravenimage says
The release date was set for August from the beginning.
DHazard says
Pretty much everything owned by Muslims is unearned. It was stolen. If you’re going to whine about the Jews taking away Palestine then you have to admit the Muslims took Egypt, Morocco, Algeria, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Spain, Southern Europe, Constantinople, on and on… all by force. Islam is the religion of theft and includes all the unearned social benefits afforded them in the more generous countries. They create nothing, destroy a lot, and barely maintain what they “hold”.
Hari Singh says
And Pakistan and Bangladesh
Janette Wells says
I have been told that when the Mughals cut a swathe over northern India you could not look over the piles of heads (separated from the body of course), they were so high.
Iran use to be mixture of religions before Islam and Afganistan used to be Buddhist. Complete the next sentence ” …and the UK used to be…….”
Hindu American says
Not just northern India. The geographical term “Hindu Kush Mountains” in pakistan and afghanistan means “mountains where Hindus were slaughtered” (by the muslims). Kush is a persian term.for “kill”.
This is a historically documented fact.
Hector mata says
…and shall be nevermore….quotes the raven.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Sons of Liberty says
And slaughtered over 270 million people ( Christians , Jews , and others they considered infidels )
patriotliz says
That’s been revised to over 700 million….it’s amazing how such major historical facts about a genocidal killing machine can be hidden by the West who welcomes these killers into their midst:
https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2017/10/14/history-735-million-non-muslim-deaths-under-islam/
Budvarakbar says
Perhaps certain Western powers that be (or had been) and there fellow travelers have always seen Islam as a kind of shock troops or ally!
Michael Copeland says
Mecca was taken by force.
Previously it hosted many different religions.
MTMLA says
By Mohamnad and his gang of thieves.
ronald says
jihad and expansion is required so most muslim countries where taken by force. They are worse than nazi’s.
gravenimage says
Mecca was not technically taken by force by the Muslims. But the Meccans saw what had happened to others who continued to oppose Muhammed and his savage army, and they eventually surrendered.
Chand says
And the Europeans took three-fifths of the globe…………whole continents………….North America, South America, Australia, New Zealand. And they also took most of Asia and Africa but were driven out by the natives.
But hey, all’s fair in war and victory.
The Greek says
Hey imbecile, Europeans took 3/5’s of the globe and made them prosperous ,engaging places to live in with MORALITY AND GOD FEARING WAYS. Maybe you can figure out the rest – but I doubt it…
Janette Wells says
Agree with The Greek. There will always be conquest depends on how you achieve this and what you do with it. The European powers, by and large, used trade as the vehicle. They were not lily white but, on balance, I believe they were not the destructive cruel, malicious barbaric, primitive ravagers that the Muslims were and are with their wealth accumulated through booty and depredation.
gravenimage says
+1
Cicero says
Chand you are wilfully making idiotic statements. What is your agenda?
Might I remind you that the name of this website is JIHAD WATCH not Colonialism/ Imperialism Watch !
Is Chand your true given name or a Taqqiya ruse ?
Sharyati says
Cicero Chand will go all out to support Islamic Jihad, to the point were he would say it is there in every bodies genes to kill for one’s religion. He would not talk about how in West Bengal “Begum” Mamta Bannerji The chief minister of that state, is changing the demographic by willfully letting in illegal Muslims Immigrants from Bangladesh. He will make crappy statements like during Hindu festivals how Muslims love Hindu gods. But they wont allow you to pass through their street. He will say that Muslims are in poverty due to Hindu oppression and not due to their Ghettoizing attitude and sheer mental backwardness , like issuing fatwas about whether insurance is wrong or not, taking a photograph with a Jinn is right or wrong , stopping the administration of the polio vaccine etc He does not understand that an “Appeaser is a person who in order to escape being eaten first by the crocodile of Islam, gives away his his own friends or people, only to be eaten last by it”. And when India is taken over Islam, Chand will be a Jester in the caliphs court with a dhimmi pact in place and would be beheaded on some pretext say trumped up blasphemy charges. The man does not recognize it.
b.a. freeman says
my copy has been ordered.
the story of islam is there for anybody to see, but to see it in its totality, one must dig it out of multiple sources, which usually contain much more information, a lot of which is extraneous to the story. thank U, mr. spencer!
Marty says
Islam destroys any civilization it conquers. Today’s Europe is experiencing demographic jihad. America is the next target. Misery, squalor, and brutality are the essential features of this,death cult.
eduardo odraude says
I gather this book becomes available in August (though one can pre-order now at Amazon, including e-book version, which I have done).
I hope it comes out August 1. We live in urgent times, when a second’s delay can sometimes make all the difference.
mortimer says
The Venetians and other European Christians provided the technology and military know-how to take Constantinople.
gravenimage says
Muslims had been violently chipping away at the Byzantine Empire for seven hundred years. By the time Constantinople fell, little was left.
Avenger says
Hungarians cast the cannons that brought down the walls of Constantinople. Serbians supplied 1,500 heavy cavalry for the Ottomans. Austrians gave instructions to the Ottoman artillery where to blast the walls to effectively collapse them. I believe Bulgarian miners tunneled under the walls for the Ottomans setting off explosives trying to bring down the land walls. They were usually intercepted by Byzantine sappers who destroyed them.
Western nations looked at the collapse of Byzantium as a huge economic gain. They wanted to take over their trade routes and commerce but in the short term, they wanted the rich plunder of the city.
gravenimage says
It was *Muslims* who plundered Constantinople–not the West.
And far from taking over trade routes, the way east was far *less* accessible to Western Europe once the Muslims took over.
gravenimage says
What happens after Islamic conquest?
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Good question. The answer, of course, is rape, murder, and enslavement–then humiliating dhimmitude for any who survive.
And this is what *all* Jihad is for.
Save Europe says
So true. Idiot Leftards in the West like to claim that Jihad is a ‘personal life struggle’, which it isn’t.
boakai ngombu says
there is no trust among the brothers; they shall continue the jihad against one another … eat each other, as it were
MTMLA says
We had an example of what happens after islamic conquest.Look at the regions taken by ISIS and what they did to the non muslims.
gravenimage says
All true, Save Europe, boakai, and MTMLA.
Cicero says
Yes : do have a conversation with the poor Hindus , Buddhist and Sikhs still livin* in the Islamic lands of Afghanistan ( formerly a Buddhist) and Bangladesh ( formerly Hindu and pluralistic )
762x51FMJ says
After Islamic conquest
Everyone who witnessed its cruelty and survived became a sex slave or a laborer.
Gary says
Are you aware that the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, has given permission for a gigantic Baby Trump,
wearing a diaper etc. to be flown over London during The Presidents visit on July 13?
What a vindictive Mayor this muslim is.
Save Europe says
Yes. And as someone who lives a mere 6 miles from London, I’m totally disgusted by his vile behaviour. Suckdick Khan does NOT speak for people like myself.
TL says
Ok, so identify the manufacturer(s) and every employee, including manual laborers, involved in making the cute little balloon. Then make them unhappy. Tommy Robinsons’ followers ought to know how to do this last part.
gravenimage says
What is fascist TL advocating now?
TL says
Gravenimage, your defamatory use of that buzzterm makes you appear angry and foolish. Give it a rest. Instead, do something fruitful, like letting yourself to become informed.
These three works will contribute immensely to this goal:
(1) The Fascist Government of Italy
By Schneider, Herbert W
https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.217805
(2) The Mystery of Fascism: Mussolini – as he would have liked to have been remembered
By David Ramsay Steele
http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm
(3) Hitler’s War and The War Path
By David Irving
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/index.html
All three are free, except for the effort to download them, to read them, and to understand them.
gravenimage says
The appalling TL wrote:
Gravenimage, your defamatory use of that buzzterm makes you appear angry and foolish. Give it a rest.
………………………..
Right–how *dare* I take a stand against Fascism?
The truth is that this no more makes me look “angry and foolish” than taking a stand against the horrors of Islam.
More:
Instead, do something fruitful, like letting yourself to become informed.
These three works will contribute immensely to this goal:
(1) The Fascist Government of Italy
By Schneider, Herbert W
(2) The Mystery of Fascism: Mussolini – as he would have liked to have been remembered
By David Ramsay Steele
http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm
(3) Hitler’s War and The War Path
By David Irving
http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hitler/index.html
All three are free, except for the effort to download them, to read them, and to understand them.
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I am actually very well read on the horrific subject of Fascism.
I’ve read excerpts of “The Fascist Government of Italy”.
Herbert W Schneider was an apologist for Fascism, calling Fascists “heroic”. Later in life, though–during a 1976 interview–he rejected the idea that he had been sympathetic to Benito Mussolini, saying his work was just an academic inquiry. TL must have forgotten about that part.
David Ramsay Steele’s piece–which I have read in its entirety–is interesting because it shows that Fascism had its roots in Socialism and Communism–as well as its essential anti-rationalism.
And yes–some, including Churchill, were somewhat fooled by Mussolini during the 1920s. This was quite common–many were fooled by Hitler early on, as well. I’m rereading Andrew Nagorski fine book “Hitlerland” right now, which covers the experiences of Western diplomats and journalists during the two decades before WWII in Berlin. Some were quite clear-eyed about the threat of the Nazis; some far less so.
And David Irving is a notorious Holocaust denier–he said that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were built by the Poles to make the Nazis look bad. Never mind all those eye-witness testimonies from both survivors and camp staff.
Absurdly, he has claimed both that the Holocaust never happened, and that it did, but that Hitler never knew about it and would have stopped it if he had known. Given the virulent antisemitism exhibited by Hitler–as well as his control over every major aspect of life in Nazi Germany, this is obviously ridiculous.
In “Hitler’s War” and “The War Path”, Irving claims that Hitler had been slandered by historians, and–essentially–that poor Hitler had been forced by the mean old Allies to invade, conquer, and oppress much of Europe. This is obviously grotesque calumny.
This creep also wants to see the destruction of Israel. In other words, like so many Holocaust deniers, he actually wants to see a continuation of the genocide of the Holocaust against Jews.
In November 1992, Irving was to be a featured speaker at a world anti-Zionist congress in Stockholm along with Louis Farrakhan, representatives of Hamas, and of Hizb’allah. In other words–just like Hitler–he is an admirer of Jihad.
Why would *any* of this lead me to embrace Fascism? Nice try, creep.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/05/sadiq-khans-london-authorises-obscene-trump-inflatable-to-fly-over-parliament-during-presidents-visit/
infidel says
Sadiq is that typical Islamic pest of a creature… who has nothing but hatred and disrespect for non-Muslims..
Cicero says
Sadie Khan is the Islamic vanguard of the Islamic conquest of the U.K. aided and abetted by many indigenous well meaning U.K. citizens
KJW says
I guess immature Sadiq Khan thinks a Trump balloon will take some attention away from his being a crappy mayor of what was once one of the greatest cities in the world. Has he done anything useful? More crime, knife attacks, acid attacks, machetes on mopeds, despicable Pakistani sex trafficking rings, thousands of jihadis, radical preachers and Muslim organizations… Surely he’s done *sonething* good, no?
Chand says
Oh no! Holy Moses!! Our Great Prophet Trump (PBUH) is being ridiculed!!
Off with their heads! Chop off the heads!! Kill, burn, destroy……!!!
gravenimage says
What a load of crap. KJW said that this balloon was immature–not that those involved should be targeted for violence and death.
What utter calumny from the often appalling Chand.
Cicero says
Chand shows itself to be a wind up troll – in reality a Mussalman in mufti
Gary says
Also, the London police are citing section 12,to prevent a pro-Trump rally near the new American
Embassy but they will allow one near the old American Embassy!!!
They are ,however ,allowing an anti-Trump protest(which will have Antifa etc.)to go ahead in
Parliament Square.
Unbelievable.
Warren says
This time islam are on to a loser as people are waking up day by day. Once they try with physical force they will be destroyed
vlparker says
I’ll be ordering your book this weekend, Robert. Can’t wait to read it. Why does it take so danged long for them to release it?
gravenimage says
This is standard, I’m afraid. Book publishing is seldom instantaneous.
Lydia Church says
Yes, the day after… we see it in muslim countries today, and creeping into Europe.
They want to subjugate everyone into submission, whether quietly or loudly.
I will go neither way.
If taken hostage I will annoy the hell out of them until they finally put me to death.
And look at the image in the photo, as other mosques, it looks like a snake has its mouth wide open, its fangs are pointed straight up, ready to bite and unleash poison, tongue curled back.
Yup. That sums it up.
sidney penny says
These two books focus on the temples, but a lot more happened to the infidels in India.
Robert says:
So much for the much-vaunted Islamic “tolerance” in Europe
Would Robert also say:
So much for the much-vaunted composite culture in India.
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples1/
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/htemples2/
The Islamic Evidence
“Finally, VOICE OF INDIA published in April, 1991 Volume I of a projected series – Hindu Temples: What Happened to Them. It was a collection of relevant articles by Arun Shourie, Harsh Narain, Jay Dubashi, Ram Swarup, and myself. An important part of the volume was a list of 2000 Muslim monuments built on the sites and/or with the materials of Hindu temples. This list became famous all over the country as soon as it came out.”
and following some strong words from one of the authors
“I take this opportunity to point out that the subject of this volume is not so much the destruction of Hindu temples as the character of Islam – an imperialist ideology of terrorism and genocide masquerading as a religion, in fact, as the only true religion. It is high time for Hindus to see Islam not with its own eyes but from the viewpoint of the great spiritual vision which is their inheritance. New Delhi SITA RAM GOEL 25 March 1993 “
infidel says
many thanks for this post Sidney…. Are U Indian by any chance?
kuriakose says
Thank you for the links, Sidney.
Cicero says
Thank you Sidney for publicising the excellent and truthful publications of the Voice of Dharma publishing house.
infidel says
The aftermath of Jehaad (if Muslims win) IS ALWAYS ONE OF UNMITIGATED VIOLENCE AND RAPE AND BLOOD AND ANGUISH.. Hindu India can offer countless such examples…. The destruction of Mathura, Nalanda, North Kerala, Taxila, Vijayanagara, Coorg….it goes on and on and on…And yet all these charlatans from the left-lib want us to believe that ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE… VOW!! So glad that Robert has chronicled all these monstrosities in his upcoming book.
infidel says
THE DESTRUCTION OF THE AWESOME KESAVA DEO TEMPLE BY MAD ANIMAL MUSLIM EMPEROR AURANGAZEB.. READ ON..
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The ancient temple was demolished in the month of Ramzan, 1080 A.H. (13 January – 11 February 1670) by Aurangzeb’s order. “In a short time, by the great exertion of the officers, the destruction of this strong foundation of infidelity was accomplished and on its site a lofty mosque was built at the expenditure of a large sum.” To the author of Maasir-i-‘Alamigiri, the accomplishment of this “seemingly impossible work was an “instance of the strength of the Emperor’s faith.” Even more disgraceful was transporting the idols to Agra and burying them under the steps of the Jama Masid (Agra) in order to be continually trodden upon.” He even changed the name of the sacred city of Mathura, held in highest respect by the Hindus since time immemorial, to Islamabad, revealing his utter insensitivity towards their feelings
KJW says
Some are into the trodding on. When Iran had its Islamic Revolution they buried statues of the shahs that were situated in towns; they didn’t destroy them, but buried them and there are photos. Also around Iran in various towns and one of their missle tunnels (along with an Israeli flag on the mt) there are American flags in the ground-I saw a video of one on a street so people ride their bicycles, cars and walk over it while just going about their business. They are sometimes “doormats” on entrances to official buildings. Such Muslims must have self-esteem problems to be carrying on with these attempts at humiliation after all these years but it just looks childish.
gravenimage says
Yep.
Cicero says
This happened also in the Southern parts of India where Hindu temples were destroyed and their holy statues broken up and placed under the threshold of the mosqueconstructed thereupon.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer, the stupidity of worshipping the Satan god called Holy Spirit has gone away from Istanbul forever. Allah the creator of all, including the Satan who claims to be God, is only One worship. Thus, singing, dancing and clapping for the Satan has ended there.
alex smythe says
Ibe: why don’t you talk about the infinite stupidity of the Turkish genocide (make that genocides) against the Christian Armenians and Greeks? You will probably deny that it even happened, though perhaps you are aware that it happened, and Satanically approve of it.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed *loves* genocide. He has said that Muslims have the right to murder Christians, and has said that the wants to personally take part in the genocide of the Jews.
IanB says
“Allah” and “Satan” amount to the same thing: imaginary entities that represent the worst of the human psyche. Neither exist in reality, only in human imagination. When homo sapiens becomes extinct, that’s probably sooner than many assume, then so will God, Allah, Satan and all gods.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
IanB, Allah is the creator of all, including the Satan you call Holy Spirit in yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods. you and your Satan god in yahweh Idol will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning for ever. A beast!!
IanB says
Ibrahim – do you have any evidence to support your incoherent ramblings?
“Allah” was the god stolen by Mohammed from the pagan Arabs to be the deity of his violent, depraved cult Islam that he invented for his own wealth and power.
No one created the universe, it occurred naturally without any outside assistance from imaginary gods.
Your Allah does not exist, Mohammed was a fraud not a prophet, the Koran is a hate-filled book fit only for burning and Islam needs to be destroyed.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed claims to believe that Judaism worships an ancient pagan goddess. Why is he so woefully ignorant?
Over the Rambo says
The Muslims didn’t destroy Hagia Sophia.
Why? Because it was too magnificent to destroy.
As for the magnificent Western technology (the internet etc….) which
allows YOU to transmit your weird views, can you name any muslims involved
in its creation.,any muslim Nobel Prize Winners? Or maybe some muslim Islamic Excellence In Technology Prize winners?
You haven’t mentioned Mithraism yet. You usually do, although how that obscure
Roman sect is directly relevant to topics on JW is a mystery.
gravenimage says
Muslims destroy lots of magnificent things, They just decided to use Hagia Sophia to sneer at the Christians they stole it from.
Jenny H says
Ibrahim Itace Muhammed certainly seem to be in a mental rut against the Holy
Spirit and Mithraism a now extinct religion and has strange ideas about the sex habits of non-muslims and has stated his approval of many of the unpleasant practices of Islam (as s true believer would)
It’s strange that he considers the Holy Spirit evil, with the fruit of the Spirit listed in Galatians 5: 22-23 as
“22 love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control.” Conversely, he considers his God, Allah, source of numerous violent and hate-filled instruction in the Koran to be good.
Very odd.
IanB says
Very odd indeed, as is all supernatural belief.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is a model of a pious Muslim.
Gjallarhornet says
After islami had conquered our countires, we will be tortured: we will have to send every evening listening to an imam reciting Ibrahim itace muhammed, while the jihadi army goes through our houses searching for Mithras-litterature.
No Muzzies Here says
It should be obvious what they will do. They tell us every chance they get. Doubters can look to see what Muslims have done when they have come into power.
Thinking that it is a religion like all the others, is self-delusion.
Frank J. Verderber says
Robert, I believe your work is very necessary for extracting fact from fiction, and I anticipate that your new book and it historical examination will reveal the mind of Islam, which is slavery of humanity. However, I think it justified to reveal that many nations and religious creeds were as violent as Islam – when involved in war. Slashing heads, raping, torture, theft, and gratuitous violence were prevalent in the hegemony of western and eastern nations – religious and non religious – whether Christian, Hindu, Taoist, Buddhist, Muslim, or pagan. But what is striking is that once the blood letting was satiated, the overloads desired to build a pluralistic society that accepted peaceful and productive citizens or subjects. Not so with Islam! There has been 1500 years of continual blood letting and repression of plurality, rape, theft, murder and mayhem within Islam. Its non stop. It should make historians wonder if Nikolai Lenin took his savage repression and upheaval of Revolution, from the archives of Islam.
Cicero says
Very well written and intelligible – thank you Sir
Politicianophobia says
Ibrahim, the Thighing Master, loves Islam it allows him to do what he loves–rape little girls. He is Islamic filth.
carlos danger says
Arm yourselves.
housemusic1@frontier.com says
does any one know if this book is translated into German….?
I would do it…….
The non English speaking countries of Europe will not read this
in English, but they should read it.
Please someone give an answer…
Cicero says
Can Robert,s book be translated into all the languages of India ?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
IanB, do you know that mithraist christians and evil Jews in Arabia before Islam all referred to the Supreme creator of all as Allah? Pagan Arabs also recognised Allah as supreme creator of all, an idea they had learnt from monotheism taught by their ancestors Abraham and Ishmael, but ignorantly worshiped idols like Hubal and 360 other idols to Link them with Allah in the same way mithraist christians worshiped Jesus as Godman, all of which Islam considers as rubbish.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
IanB, do you know that mithraist christians and evil Jews in Arabia before Islam all referred to the Supreme creator of all as Allah?
…………………………
This is half true–Christians (save for Catholics who used, and sometimes still use, Latin in worship) just use the local language. So they may call the supreme being God, Dieu, Gott, or even Allah, if they are Arabic speaking.
This is true to this day, in places like the Middle East and Malaysia.
But this does not mean that Arabic-speaking Christians worship the foul deity of Islam, any more than it means that German Christians worship Odin. “Allah” is just a word.
The vicious “Allah” of Islam is nothing like the loving Christian God.
And Jews use Hebrew in worship, so they never would have used “Allah”, even if they were fluent in Arabic, as most of them were in that time and place.
More:
Pagan Arabs also recognised Allah as supreme creator of all, an idea they had learnt from monotheism taught by their ancestors Abraham and Ishmael, but ignorantly worshiped idols like Hubal and 360 other idols to Link them with Allah in the same way mithraist christians worshiped Jesus as Godman, all of which Islam considers as rubbish.
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No, Arab pagans were not former Muslims–they just used “Allah” as “Al Lah”, or “the god”. It was a generic term that Muslims later adopted.
And everyone knows that Muslims hate Jesus–this does not mean that Christians are former Muslims, either. It was Muslims who tried to steal Jesus from Christianity. Christianity much precedes Islam.
Why is Ibrahim itace muhammed so woefully ignorant?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
liar Gravenimage, Muslims love and respect respect true Jesus as one of the cardinals of Islamic faith. Read the Quran carefully.
gravenimage says
Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed was unable to address most of what I said. No surprise there.
As for the Muslim “true Jesus”–really, the “prophet Isa”–this figure is *nothing* like the loving Jesus of the Gospels.
It is not just that he is not the Savior–he is also not a healer or a peacemaker. In fact, his main role is to *kill Christians* in the last days.
*Of course* Ibrahim itace muhammed loves the idea of the genocide of the Christians–almost as much as the genocide of the Jews, which he says he wants to personally take part in.
And I’ve read the vicious Qur’an quite carefully, and in multiple translations. I’m rereading it cover-to-cover now for the fifth time, and it hasn’t gotten any less ugly. *Ugh*.
alex smythe says
Read the Gospels carefully. The true Jesus said the the greatest commandment is to “Love your neighbor as yourself.” He also said “You must love and pray for even your enemies; if you only love love you love you, then what reward is there in that? Do not even the pagans do that? Be therefore perfect, as your Heavenly Father is perfect.” He also said, “Anyone who blasphemes against me can be forgiven, but he who blaspemes against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven” (Note that this doesn’t simply mean trash-talking against the Holy Spirit, the way Dishonest Ibe does; it rather means hardedning your heart against God, and dying in a sinful state of murder, hatred, corruption, etc., which may well happen to Ibe there). Once when a Samaritan town was rude to Jesus and his dsiciples and refused to welcome them, the disciples asked, “Shall we call fire down upon that toen?” Jesus rebuked them, and assured them that the final judgment would be up to God. Also,m don’t forget the woman who was caught in adultery, whom Jesus saved from stoning by self-righteous hypocrites. The list goes on and on.
alex smythe says
Ibe: the crescent moon was a symbol of the moon-god Hubal. That is not to say that modern-day Muslims worship Hubal, but why use that symbol, if one strongly wishes to distance oneself from the symbolism of polytheistic pagan gods? Same with Christians who celebrate Xmas, which was taken from a mix of the Saturnia fastival and the birthday of the Greco-Roman sun-god Apollo. No one actually knows when Jesus was born, though it was likely during summer season in Israel.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Alex, prophet muhammad never used crescent symbol or instructed that it shall be used as sign of Islam. it was later muslim generation who used it as a sign for the new month of fasting. in the Quran, it is explicitly stated that Muslims shall not worship the sun or moon, but worship Allah alone who created them. He can the created be the creator?