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Will “outreach,” “dialogue,” and “hearts and minds” initiatives end the jihad?

Jul 10, 2018 5:41 pm By Robert Spencer

Mainstream foreign policy analyst John Hannah wrote in March that “both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama understood that we wouldn’t be able to just kill our way out of the conflict with radical Islamists. Each devoted considerable resources to what’s been called the ‘battle for hearts and minds.’”

The idea was to show that the Americans weren’t as bad as jihad propaganda claimed, and were ready to be helpful, generous friends. This effort was predicated on the assumption that good will gestures would be appreciated and reciprocated. Yet as I show in my new book The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS,these assumptions were wrongheaded from the start, and doomed to failure. This is because the jihadis generally know the Qur’an, and know that it teaches warfare against unbelievers, including unbelievers who are kind to the Muslims. An example: in the 830s, the Byzantine emperor Theophilus asked the Abbasid caliph al-Ma’mun for a peace accord. Al-Ma’mun responded:

I should make the answer to your letter cavalry horses bearing steadfast, courageous and keen-sighted riders, who would contend with you over your destruction, to seek Allah’s favor by spilling your blood….

Click here to preorder The History of Jihad From Muhammad to ISIS, the only comprehensive one-volume history of jihad in the English language, including not just the jihad in Europe but in India, Africa and elsewhere, drawing primarily on accounts of eyewitnesses and contemporary chroniclers. Arm yourself with the truth against the prevailing disinformation. Preorder here now.

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  1. Steve says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    Of course it won’t work. Allah’s will holds sway above the dictates of man. If you want to know Islam, study what Muhammad did. Infidels, innocents and non believers (even those of other Muslim sects) will perish.

    • abad says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 7:34 pm

      And the reason it won’t work is because “outreach,” “dialogue,” and “hearts and minds” are all liberal tactics.

      I recommend trying something else.

      • mortimer says

        Jul 10, 2018 at 10:38 pm

        Muslims conduct jihad because Mohammed COMMANDED IT … they are able to kill their own family … virtue, friendship, loving affection, kindness, education or good manners are irrelevant … IF YOU ARE A KAFIR … you are IMPURE, POLLUTED and Islam says you do not deserve to live.

        Sira:Ishaq:455 (At the Battle of Badr)
        As the bodies were thrown into the well, one of the Muslims saw the body of his father thrown in. He said, “My father was a virtuous, wise, kind, and cultured man. I had hoped he would become a Muslim, but he died a kafir. His abode is Hell-fire forever.

        Killing family is proof of Islamic Faith … read and weep:

        Sira page 369 (554 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad. It’s a “beautiful” story of two brothers, Muhayyissa and Huwayyisa: (To avoid confusing the two brothers, keep in mind that the brother whose name begins with M is the Murderer in the story.)

        “The apostle [Muhammad] said, ‘Kill any Jew that falls into your power.’ Thereupon Muhayyisa bin Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jewish merchant], Huwayyisa began to beat [his brother Muhayyisa], saying, ‘You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?’ Muhayyisa answered, ‘Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.’…[Huwayyisa] replied, ‘By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?’ [Muhayyisa] said, ‘Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.’ [Huwayyisa] exclaimed, “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!’ and [Huwayyisa] became a Muslim.”

        • Andy says

          Jul 11, 2018 at 10:37 pm

          Ex-Muslims of North America

          https://www.exmna.org/

      • Julea Bacall says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 7:39 pm

        Only pressure on Muslim countries to change all warlord sections of the Qur’an would help. They are not from Allah and make bigotry, hatred, apartheid, Supremacist genocide or domination. Its wrong to teach those things. Pure and simple wrong. Iran is lost forever. with great difficulty, Sunni Muslim could get al Azhar to delete warlord comments mistaken for Allah’s words.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      WHY a ‘hearts-and-minds’ approach will not work: the DOCTRINE OF AL WALAA WAL BARAA (association with Muslims and apartheid from kafirs)

      Don’t help the kafirs, don’t support the infidels:

      Koran 28:86 says, “Therefore lend not thou support in any way to those who reject Allah’s Message.”

      ‘Baraa’ is HATRED towards Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’…Al Bughoud or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love towards Muslims). Baraa is:
      – To Hate
      – To keep distance from
      – To be enemy to
      – To desert
      – To decline to help
      – To disrespect
      – To put down
      – Not to ally with
      – Not to support

      Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the dirty kufaar and from kufr and shirk.

      -Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed (Islamic faith) and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen (i.e. wrong worshippers). So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]

      -“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca.

      • Julea Bacall says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 7:42 pm

        Only totally ignorant westerners could possible advocate this. Please make them read the Qur’an/Hadiths before they say anything at all.

    • J D S says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 am

      All this “outreach stuff” will work just about as well as “just asking” those who follow the korananic teachings to embrace Christianity…which would be the better way otherwise, in the end time, they will face that awful Lake of Fire.
      Muhammad (if he ever actually existed) will have much to answer for in leading so many astray.
      Question? Why would God need another prophet when John, in his Revelations, from God, SAID IT ALL!

      • Mateen Elass says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 11:07 am

        The real question is why God would need another prophet after He had sent His Son, who is the Word, the fulness of God’s revelation (see Hebrews 1:1-3). Any self-proclaimed prophet after Jesus who offers any “revelation” pointing away from the biblical Jesus is inherently a false prophet, from the perspective of the New Testament.

        • Julea Bacall says

          Jul 11, 2018 at 7:46 pm

          That dialogue with a Muslim is as ignorant as Bush’s. Not one iota would get across the divide. Its as bad as suicide.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 11, 2018 at 8:04 pm

          Mateen, Muslims–as I’m sure you know–don’t consider Jesus to be the Savior–nor a healer or a peacemaker. The main role of the Muslim “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–is to *kill Christians* in the last days.

    • Shelley Bayless says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 3:48 pm

      The true & living God would never lie, it’s impossible for God to lie, nor does he want his children to lie. He would never tell his children to commit suicide, and take the lives of innocent others. My God would never tell his followers to sacrifice their children for financial or personal gain or reward. The god who would those things is not my Father, but the Devil.

  2. mortimer says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:02 pm

    “No!” is the short answer, because all JIHAD is AGGRESSION, and JIHAD is MOHAMMED’S SACRED METHOD to impose discriminatory Sharia law.

    The only solution to JIHAD is introduce SUBSTANTIAL DOUBT into the minds of Muslims. This is called DEPROGRAMMING.

    Once the vast majority of Muslims have SUBSTANTIAL DOUBTS about the truth of Islam, there will be practically NO JIHADISTS.

    The issue is NOT that Muslims are BAD PEOPLE as a group, but that they have a BAD IDEOLOGY… JIHAD against the disbelievers.

    Once the KORAN is seen as a HUMAN-FABRICATED book, Muslims will have no reason to conduct jihad or remain in Islam.

    60% of the Koran is a RANT that KAFIRS are impure and that they should be ATTACKED BY MUSLIMS.

    When Muslims do not believe the Koran, the JIHAD WILL STOP.

    • mgoldberg says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 6:07 pm

      +1

    • thesailor says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 7:59 pm

      In principle I agree. But this must be reinforced by a total ban on Islam in Western countries, so that young minds are no longer assailed by the brainwashing 24/7.

    • Naildriver says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 9:08 am

      You fail to realize that’s not how a belief system as Islam works, Mortimer — this is wishful thinking that such deprogramming would work upon the whole of Islam.
      For starters Islam has provisions to shoot down such efforts to ‘deprogrammed’ them and that is murder the one who attempts it.
      Also, you fail to understand the religious mind set in Islam. Look around the world and most people have one religion or another — to them, whether it’s Southern Baptist, Hindu, Voodoo, Mormon or Muslim there is no deprogramming permitted in their small minds — it won’t happen; because the same ‘certainty’ of correctness in their beliefs over rides all reason– there is spiritual experience even in the stupidest most dismal nonsense from even the most venal or deranged cult leaders. Do yon recall the mass suicide of Jone’s followers or those who killed themselves who wanted to hitch a ride upon Haley-Bop comet? — and currently with Islam, there is the political aspect too, abetted with the very visceral hatred of Whites and Europeans among millions of them.
      Most blacks in this country who’ve converted to Islam do so in prisons and find Islam’s violence a useful justification to persist in felonies and sustain a hatred for whites, who they blame for all their failures. They may not be in majority but you’d have to kill a whole bunch of devotees to Islam to even begin to argue your points with those already apostate.
      Islam will require a very material smashing. The mosques destroyed, Mecca blown up, and its relics and lick rock destroyed … and pitched into the sea, where there is great deal of human death and destruction — reeducation and deprogramming is reserved for children and women, as most the males and many women above age of puberty would have to be imprisoned or killed.
      There are many millions, of course, who’d pitch Islam out with Mohammed once defeated, as much of Islam’s power and authority comes from being citizens in its society — like a hurricane draws its power from heat but another religion or faith would have to be handy to replace it. Whole countries would have to be dismantled as Pakistan and now, even Turkey.
      Once most Muslims see their male entitlement system of visceral pleasures has no power, and all possible practice and proselytizing halted, and the Korans burned and forbidden everywhere as hate speech, it would finally possibly then die. It will be messy.

      • Shelley Bayless says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 4:02 pm

        Wow NailDriver! You sure did hit that one on the head with one firm blow! I agree eradicating Islam is not that easy! Only the yrue God could do that.

    • Julea Bacall says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 7:53 pm

      The Qur’an is very cleverly written by warlords and they already warned their people about that. It tells them we will try to make them doubt and reject but tells them it is just the trick of Satan. Muslim Countries have to be pressured into removing all Warlord passages from the Qur’an through al Azhar but Iran is lost forever with leaders as they have. (Erdogan is like Iranian in the area of Lost forever. The people could possibly be saved. It will take strong dictatorial leaders in Muslim countries to force change (by pressures of sanctions or some way)

  3. duh swami says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    There’s only room for one supreme religion at the top…
    It is your hearts and minds that must change, kuffar…

    • mortimer says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 6:12 pm

      Yes, swami, the MASTER FAITH gives its followers permission to do ANYTHING to ANYONE, even to their own people.

      All the rules in Islam may be contradicted or reversed for the sake of POLITICAL OPPORTUNISM.

      The MAJORITY of teachings in Islam are IMMORAL, IMPRACTICABLE and ILLEGAL in the modern world.

      SO WHY BE A MUSLIM AT ALL, if this ‘master faith’ is so grotesquely out of whack with human rights, reason, history and logic?

      There is NO VALID REASON for Muslims to remain in their MISOGYNISTIC DEATH CULT.

      • rooare says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 12:44 pm

        Mortimer,

        Islam panders to the base instincts of man, supremacy over others, pillage, rape, murder, and enslavement, that is power, sex, wealth by any means. This is why many stay in Islam and of course there’s that “kill the apostate” thing. And all this is sanctioned by divine command.

    • Lydia Church says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 6:17 pm

      The supreme religion is: Christianity.
      The kuffar are: muslims.
      And yes, it is their hearts and minds that must change.

      • Wellington says

        Jul 10, 2018 at 6:45 pm

        Your statement is not the optimal approach, Lydia, to having Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, Taoists, agnostics, atheists, et al. join Christians in opposing what Islam intends for all of us—enslavement of the mind, body and spirit.

        The greater and larger the alliance against the worst religion of all time, i.e., Islam, the better for all the world, for all non-Muslims (and even for many Muslims who hopefully will become ex-Muslims).

        So, reconsider your “strategy” if you will. You do no good in the fight against Islam by being supremacist about Christianity. Surely if you reflect a while on this, you will see my point. Surely.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 10, 2018 at 6:52 pm

          Agreed, Wellington–we *all* need to stand together against the threat of Islam.

          And Lydia, “Kuffar” means “concealer of the truth”. This is *not* what Christians believe about non-Christians.

        • infidel says

          Jul 10, 2018 at 10:57 pm

          This is the SAME THING I say to missionaries who visit my country and indulge in mindless conversions of HINDUS… Ps note that they target only Hindus and NOT THESE ANIMAL MUSLIMS..

        • mortimer says

          Jul 10, 2018 at 10:59 pm

          UNITY OF 80% of all humans could easily defeat Islam and lead to its demise, but the 80% must STAY FOCUSED ON ISLAM and NOT FIGHT AMONG EACH OTHER.

          Atheists, agnostics and religious believers apart from Muslims can work together to defeat Islam, but the MESSAGE THEY ADOPT IS CRUCIAL and they must AGREE on the message!

          The main 2 problems with Islam are SUPREMACISM and the JIHAD IDEOLOGY of world conquest.

          The 80% need to focus on FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION (to criticize Islam) and the need to DEBUNK ISLAM so Muslims will abandon it.

          If the 80% can refuse to criticize one another, they can stay focused, untied and defeat Islam easily.

          THE 80 % SHOULD PUT ASIDE DIFFERENCES and FIGHT ISLAM TOGETHER for the sake of ALL !

          Islam will create World War III if we do not defeat it.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 11, 2018 at 8:08 pm

          True, Mortimer–it is important to expose the ugliness of Islam.

    • Shelley Bayless says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 4:09 pm

      You are right, there is only room for one God. Why would we abandon the true living and loving God for a lie, a deception, slavery and Hell?

  4. mortimer says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:06 pm

    The REQUIREMENT to conduct JIHAD is a DECREE coming from Allah which supersedes ALL human contracts.

    Muslims who do not conduct JIHAD will go to Islamic hell.

    ALL Muslims are conducting VERBAL JIHAD by LYING about the meaning, motive and methods of jihad!

    ALL MUSLIMS ARE LYING ABOUT JIHAD or they have left Islam.

  5. Axolotl says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    Well, Dubya, that didn’t work too well. Your pals just shoveled $billions into mosque building to push the growth of disgusting wahhabism across the West.
    “Hearts and minds” is just seen as a weakness to take advantage of. Which is exactly what happened.

  6. Lydia Church says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:19 pm

    The short answer?
    No.

    ; )

  7. Strangerinastrangeland says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:30 pm

    The West does not need friendship. The West needs respect. Respect is 9/10 fear. We should have destroyed Mecca after 9/11.

    • BigQuark says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 7:19 pm

      This is the only language these fools know, next to lie-ing 24/7.

      We needed to hit them with the cosmic shit hammer, and we did not. Bush failed.Then Barry hoodwinked the nation for 8. Had we leveled them at that time the world would be a different place. Now I believe I will see a war in the west. We will not go as quietly as Europe is.

    • Jayell says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 12:18 am

      I have heard that there has been talk of President Trump releasing some secret papers relating to 9/11, and that it won’t make the Saudis look too good. In which case, something aimed at Mecca might be a logical reprisal.

  8. gravenimage says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    Will “outreach,” “dialogue,” and “hearts and minds” initiatives end the jihad?
    …..,…………….

    Nope. The question is why the dhimmis don’t understand this.

  9. eduardo odraude says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 7:13 pm

    Straight talk combined with love can convert Muslims and make them apostates. David Wood and others, using nothing but logic and facts, have been very direct about pointing out from the core Islamic sources themselves why Islam cannot be true and why Muhammad can only be a false prophet, and Wood has definitely caused a lot of Muslims to abandon Islam. The same, even more so perhaps, for Father Boutros, on whose head Al Qaeda put a huge bounty.

    But straight talk like that of Wood and Boutros is very different from the appeasement of the typical “outreach” attempt.

    • BigQuark says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 9:22 pm

      How can you trust them is my question.

  10. eduardo odraude says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    Often there is a split — between those who want to apply only the bitter tasting medicine of criticism, and on the other hand the suicidal appeasers who want to give only sugar.

    But what if you put the bitter and the sweet together? What if one administers the bitter medicine of unvarnished truth about Islam, but joins that with love and efforts to save and convert, whether to Christianity or to anything better than Islam? Even though bitter medicine with sugar is a Mary Poppins philosophy and certainly not always appropriate, in some circumstances it has proved the most effective way to go.

    • duh swami says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 7:09 am

      There is no ‘one size fits all’, method of ‘deprogramming a Muslim…Success depends on how deep is his Islam and how fearful is he of Allah…
      The ‘therapist’ would have to convince the Muslim that Allah is not God and thee is no after death rewards for pleasing him…and just forget about that fraud Mohammad…
      If you don’t have an Allah wrench, you may be able to rent one…

  11. vlparker says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 8:15 pm

    Can’t wait to read the book.

  12. No Fear says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Jihadis don’t have hearts or minds.

  13. Berengaria says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    Wait, Both the GW Bush Military & the Obama Military pushed the “WIN THE HEARTS & MINDS OF THE TERRORIST” Nonsense & all it did was to get our Military Cut to Pieces. Later, we found out there were US Military, handing GOODY BAGS of Money out to their New Bought Friends.
    GW, Obama & Slick Willy flooded our Country with murderous Muslims, That’s No Way To Win A War.

    • Shelley Bayless says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 4:22 pm

      I’m not so sure Obama’s goal was to win their hearts & minds, but rather was one of them along.I would love to read the book and find out

  14. jewdog says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 9:42 pm

    The Golden Rule does not apply to infidels, because Islam considers infidels to be suckers who don’t deserve an even break. Unfortunately, a new sucker is born every minute.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 10, 2018 at 9:51 pm

      +1

  15. infidel says

    Jul 10, 2018 at 11:03 pm

    India has literally BROKEN ITS HEAD OVER having peace with Pakistan… INNUMERABLE strategies have been tried in this reg… YET ALL OF THEM FAIL.. WHY??

  16. Papa Whiskey says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 12:05 am

    As they used to say in Vietnam, “If you’ve got ’em by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow.”

  17. MFritz says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 5:42 am

    Even if we convince 99% of all muslims to CEASE jihad, the 1% that remain would “regrow” into a full threat – over time – once the social pressure is relaxed even by an iota. It will always be possible to SHAME people into islamic extremism by telling them that they don’t “follow the text” (which means being a “bad” muslim). And the text itself cannot be changed – end of argument.

    And there isn’t even a 20% conviction to END the permanent and ongoing war against every other culture and religion. Most muslims simply keep their mouths shut – and agree.

    Besides, their continuous overbreeding in Africa – and elsewhere – will lead to SERIOUS military (and social) conflicts in years to come. It has already started.

    • rooare says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 12:59 pm

      MFritz,
      There are around a billion Muslims on earth so one percent is 10 million jihads to deal with even if the 99% could be persuaded to abandon Islam.

  18. Laurence Jarvik says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 6:24 am

    US “Hearts and Minds” campaign also failed in Vietnam, where Islam wasn’t an issue…losing strategy, period.

  19. 1984 George Orwellesqu says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 6:39 am

    https://www.memri.org/reports/egyptian-german-scholar-hamed-abdel-samad-intellectuals-enlightenment-phobia-there-can-be-no

    memri
    July 6, 2018Special Dispatch No.7556
    Egyptian-German Scholar Hamed Abdel-Samad On Intellectuals’ ‘Enlightenment Phobia’: There Can Be No Enlightenment Without A ‘Mighty Clash With Heritage’
    Speaking at a Moroccan Organization for Human Rights conference, Egyptian-German scholar Hamed Abdel-Samad called for a halt to trying to please the Islamists and said that “whoever wants to embrace the heritage, along with its representatives and theoreticians, and to incorporate them in the enlightenment game is perpetrating a crime.” Abdel-Samad enumerated the principles of enlightenment and said that solutions should not be sought within jurisprudence as these are “nothing but plastic surgery for a lifeless corpse.” It is like a rubber band, he said: “We pull away with our thinking, but then we are pulled back by our fear, of taboos, our fear of prohibitions, and our fear of being punished by the law or by society. There can be no enlightenment where there is fear.”

    To view the clip of Hamed Abdel-Samad on MEMRI TV, click here or below.

    “When Intellectuals Say To Me: ‘Society Has Not Yet Matured Enough To Interact With Your Bold Ideas,’ I Always Respond: ‘Well, Give Me A Date – Tell Me When'”

    Hamed Abdel-Samad: “When we revisit the notion of Jihad, which has gotten us to where we are today, we must call our forefathers to account, for coming to North Africa and enslaving human beings. We must also call the texts that led to that to account. Who has the courage to do that? I face criticism from brothers… It is natural for me to face criticism and threats of Islamists, but when intellectuals say to me: ‘Society has not yet matured enough to interact with your bold ideas,’ I always respond: ‘Well, give me a date. Tell me when. If it’s Thursday, May 13, 2035, I’ll be there. Just give me a date.’ It shouldn’t be left open-ended. Why has society ‘not yet matured’? Could it be because no one has dared to confront society with these ideas? Could the reason be because people who dared to take a step forward took two steps back, because they wanted an easy and comfortable enlightenment, without confrontations? This is a great deception.

    “There can be no enlightenment without a mighty clash with the heritage. Whoever wants to embrace the heritage, along with its representatives and theoreticians, and to incorporate them in the enlightenment game is perpetrating a crime. Whoever thinks that some Islamists support enlightenment is wrong. There are no hedgehogs without quills.”

    […]

    “The Truth Is That All The Principles That I Have Mentioned Are Either Non-Existent, Or Else They Are Castrated Or Conditional, In Islam”

    “Enlightenment has five principles, the first of which is freedom. The second principle is human rights, and I mean it in the sense that appeared in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and not the hierarchical rights that we know from Islamic heritage, in which Muslims have certain rights and non-Muslims have different rights, men have certain rights and women have different rights. No, all citizens have equal rights and equal duties. The third is the principle of tolerance – again, not in the Islamic sense, where we allow certain things to the People of the Book, but not to the Bahais, the atheists, or the Buddhists. No. Tolerance should be non-hierarchical and should apply to all. Should the fact that I am a Muslim and belong to a Muslim majority mean that all the minorities should be under my thumb? No. We are equal before the law. Another principle is the principle of pluralism. This principle of pluralism does not exist in Islam. I say this loud and clear. The truth is that all the principles that I have mentioned are either non-existent, or else they are castrated or conditional, in Islam.”

    […]

    “There Are Also Jurisprudent Solutions, Which You Should Forget About Altogether – They Are Nothing But Plastic Surgery For A Lifeless Corpse – They Are Like Painting The Walls Of A Building On The Verge Of Collapse”

    “Everybody is trying to get out of this mess in their own way. There are enlightened solutions, like the ones offered by Said Nacheed, Rachid Aylal, Ahmen Assid, or Mohammed Lamsiah. There are also jurisprudent solutions, which you should forget about altogether. They are nothing but plastic surgery for a lifeless corpse. They are like painting the walls of a building on the verge of collapse. Don’t waste your time on people who are trying to do this, because they are striving to save face, not to reach enlightenment.

    […]

    “You can be sure that no matter how hard you try, you will never please the Islamists. And the Islamists will never be pleased with you until you follow their creed… Anyone trying to play tricks and to dodge clarity in order to please others – it will not happen. They will use you for their cause and then throw you a bone.

    […]

    “It is imperative to confront our forefathers and their [religious] texts. We must open all the complex problems, once and for all.”

    […]

    “The Job Of The Intellectual Is Not To Save Islam, Or To Find A Comfortable Way Out For The Fanatic Believer”

    “Our goal is not to save Islam. The believers can save their personal faith, by refraining from mixing it in politics and legislation. The job of the intellectual is not to save Islam, or to find a comfortable way out for the fanatic believer. The fanatic believer should find his own solution, when the rug is being pulled out from under his feet, in legislation, in law, and in politics. But as long as we pamper them, and give them the impression that they are strong and we are weak, they will continue with this.

    […]

    “Each and every one of us was born into a certain religion, or into no religion at all, by a mere coincidence of genetics and geography, yet we continue to circle that coincidence, as if we are tied to it by an elastic band – whenever we try to pull away from it, we are pulled back and get slapped by the elastic band. It’s like an elastic band. We pull away with our thinking, but then we are pulled back by our fear, of taboos, our fear of prohibitions, and our fear of being punished by the law or by society. There can be no enlightenment where there is fear.”

  20. CPT CWK says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 7:22 am

    The photo that accompanied this article brings to mind a question that has long puzzled me: Can someone please explain why GWB was seen so often holding hands with a Saudi potentate?

    This is a very un-Western and highly un-manly gesture and it just makes no sense to me that the President of the United States (or any other self respecting Western leader) would indulge in it. The mind reels contempating Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump holding hands with any man, let alone a Saudi royal.

    Perhaps, at some level, this a sign of submission or dhimmitude on the part of GWB? [Editorial Comment: GWB was a witless oaf and a clueless buffoon whose misguided policies caused enormous damage to America.]

    • boakai ngombu says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 5:53 pm

      in the village, when two men held hands, they were expressing a bond of friendship. (this should not be construed as being a homosexual love comment.)

      however, in some relationships, whomever was holding the “toilet hand” (L) mattered; a certain status was being expressed.

      that the Prince held Bush’s left hand perhaps signified a lesser to the greater, but more likely expressed friendship.

      • CPT CWK says

        Jul 11, 2018 at 10:13 pm

        But GWB was not “in the village” — He was President of the United States. He had to know that the optics of this was not consistent with the office that he then held or with the standards of conduct expected of a man raised in the Western tradition.

        The idea of holding another man’s hand publicly is revolting to me. I am fairly certain that every other normal American man would feel the same way. Why then did GWB do it?

        An even more interesting question is why the Main Stream Media did not pick up on this and make an issue of it? They could have used these silly photos to hammer and ridicule GWB. Why didn’t they do this?

        This is all very strange to me. Very, very strange.

        I just hope that someone out there can make sense of ths for me.

  21. duh swami says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 7:26 am

    Shahada is a affirmation and an oath…Once the meme of shahada enters, it replicates and fills all the empty spaces…Fear of Allah is the glue that keeps it from falling apart…
    The ‘hearts and mind’ stuff doesn’t work because the Muslims who really need to hear it don’t show up…

  22. JOHN says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 9:14 am

    That “Hearts And Minds” nonsense didn’t work during the Vietnam War (I know, I was there.) and it certainly will not work with this bunch. If a brutal and merciless enemy professes a will to kill you and destroy your culture and country, then you have no other alternative than to kill him first. Moslem’s have proven themselves to be the most brutal, ruthless and destructive militant force on earth for the 1,400 years. Therefore, the free world must adopt the military model used in WWII and commit themselves to the complete annihilation of the enemy and accept nothing less than “Unconditional Surrender”.

  23. Tom says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 10:11 am

    Of course this tactic was and is doomed to failure because in the vast majority of cases the heart and mind of Muslims has already been won over to Islam and, as the Koran is Islam’s holy book which contains the word of Allah which every Muslim knows must be followed literally, any attempt to sway the majority of Muslims’ minds will be futile.

    They will, however, gratefully accept as their right, the Jizya given by the west as a bribe in an attempt to sway their loyalty to Allah, and smile while accepting it from the idiots of the west.

  24. Timothy says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 11:47 am

    The multiculturalist proponents of this “hearts and minds” approach must know it is doomed to failure. After all, they believe no culture is better than another, just different. So, why would they propose a strategy that assumes that proponents of sharia, once they learn what they are taught about western ideals is wrong, will reject Islamic teaching and adopt western ideals as “better”? This approach is either hypocritical or woefully misguided (especially given the track record of other attempts to evangelize in Muslim countries).

  25. Naildriver says

    Jul 11, 2018 at 1:39 pm

    Bush literally betrayed the citizens of the USA, his office as president, and the US Constitution, with regard to his actions of appeasement, collusion and treason with the enemy that is Islam, after 9/11.
    He should be arrested and by federal Marshal, put on trial before congress, and if found guilty — which he is after publicly defending and lending aid and comfort to this enemy, Islam, after 9/11, shot dead by Marines and his body unceremoniously pitched into the sea.
    The same goes double for Obama.
    Trump has been on very thin ice too in literally dancing about with them in SA with one of their swords! And lunching with devoted Muslims during Ramadan at the WH, but nothing at all regarding this treason is even suggested by any US politicians regarding these betrayals– instead we persistently hear nonsense about how Muslims– foot soldiers effectively all, should be brought into our society; and preposterous claims of what good citizens they are on both sides of the aisle.
    Historically these years will be seen and pondered as the USA’s worst blunder — if there ever is a future where Islam doesn’t have the historians in their sway, or by the proverbial balls.

    • Naildriver says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 3:43 pm

      I’ll correct the statement about Trump’ lunching with Muslims’ during Ramadan, but there was a White House dinner honoring Islam this year — That he cancelled in his first year.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 11, 2018 at 8:15 pm

      Bush was ignorant about Islam, but not evil–the same with Trump.

      Your fantasy about murdering the last several presidents is just that.

      • Naildriver says

        Jul 12, 2018 at 8:25 am

        You may not agree with capital punishment, but treason is the one place in the Constitution where it is sanctioned, gravenimage.
        — And in life in death situations of warfare and particularly with the events since 9/11, it is also important to drive home the seriousness to others of imperiling the lives of millions and creating earthly circumstances of hell owing to the consequences of corruption, greed, betrayal, and treason — all of which these first two presidents are guilty. You do realize that merely posting on Jihad Watch does involve some risk to your very life from Islamic devotees should they discover your identity, gravenimage … because our government fails to take Islamic directives and practices of murder seriously. I happen to regard art as seriously criminal — do you not understand this?
        I stand behind my statement; and I should point out it’s no fantasy, nor any more a desire to murder than one who would wish OJ Simpson to have seen justice and a needle.
        Throughout history leaders have met with death at the hands of a dissatisfied public sometimes it was ‘murder, but not always.

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