Ali said: “Allah told me to do this, Allah told me to come here and kill people.” But he was acquitted of terror charges and found mentally ill.
Look at how Canadian authorities are endangering the public: “the board also found Ali, who suffers from schizophrenia, ‘still poses a significant threat to the safety of the public’ and ‘holds some of the same delusions, that he experienced at the time of the (attack).’ He also ‘continues to express concerns about the Canadian government and its interactions with Muslim countries.’”
We have seen so many jihadis say their jihad attack was retaliation for the supposed atrocities of Western governments in Muslim countries — and they’re going to let this would-be jihad murderer loose.
“In the doctor’s opinion, the risks that Mr. Ali poses include: (a) his Psychotic Disorder which is managed well, while he is on medication; and (b) his potential to act out on political, or radical ideas. There is no treatment for this.”
Well, then, by all means, let him go to college. What could possibly go wrong?
In any case, if Mohawk College is like most colleges and universities today, Ayanle Hassan Ali’s views on Canada, the Middle East, Islam and other matters will be quite mainstream.
“MANDEL: Mentally ill stabber in army recruiting centre attack allowed to attend Mohawk College,” by Michele Mandel, Toronto Sun, August 7, 2018:
The mentally ill man found not criminally responsible for trying to kill three soldiers at a Toronto recruiting centre will be allowed to attend Mohawk College across the street from the secure psychiatric unit where he’s currently being detained, the Sun has learned.
And while Ayanle Hassan Ali will be supervised initially, the Ontario Review Board’s plan is that he will eventually be allowed to attend classes on his own over the next year.
Yet in its own reasons for decision, the board also found Ali, who suffers from schizophrenia, “still poses a significant threat to the safety of the public” and “holds some of the same delusions, that he experienced at the time of the (attack).”
He also “continues to express concerns about the Canadian government and its interactions with Muslim countries.”
So naturally, let him go to college “indirectly supervised” in just his first year since being found NCR.
How does that protect the public?
“These passes will only be granted by the hospital on a gradual basis and on a “when and if” basis Mr. Ali is ready to exercise them,” the board wrote in its decision, almost sensing the questions that should rightfully be asked.
“Otherwise, they will not be granted.”
Ali, 30, has been held in the secure forensic unit at St. Joseph’s Hospital in Hamilton ever since the terrifying March attack in 2016 when he burst into the North York recruiting office on Yonge St. wielding a large kitchen knife. He later told psychiatrists that he believed soldiers were a “legitimate target” due to Canada’s military action in Muslim countries.
“I have a licence to kill, I have a green light to kill,” Ali had written in his diary. “One soldier is all it takes, just one.”
According to the ORB reasons, Ali was hearing voices at the time through the TV and radio and believed he should “martyr himself.” In an initial interview after his arrest, he said he was disappointed he hadn’t been killed.
During the attack, he punched, slashed and stabbed a corporal at the entrance to the recruiting centre.
He chased a sergeant who rushed out of her office and narrowly missed slicing the back of her neck. He then tried to slash and stab at another sergeant who’d slipped and fallen to the ground.
With his first attempt, the blade hit the floor. As Ali resumed stabbing the soldier, the mentally ill man was fortunately using the wrong end of his knife.
Originally facing nine charges including attempted murder, all “for the benefit of, at the direction of or in association with a terrorist group,” Ali was acquitted in May on the terror part of the indictment after the judge found no evidence he was acting on behalf of any group. He was instead found not criminally responsible by reason of mental disorder of the lesser, included offences….
Since Ali began taking medication at St. Joseph’s more than two years ago, his treating psychiatrist reports his condition has gradually improved and he’s a “kind, careful, considerate, soft spoken individual.”…
It’s the psychiatrist’s other conclusions that are worrisome: “In the doctor’s opinion, the risks that Mr. Ali poses include: (a) his Psychotic Disorder which is managed well, while he is on medication; and (b) his potential to act out on political, or radical ideas.
“There is no treatment for this.”
PABLO says
It is amazing that these Mentally ILL Muslims in the west is never told by Allah to kill fellow Muslims.
Once again, DIEversity reigns supreme.
John Appleby says
The Quran tells them to do it, so is this saying the followers of Quran all have mental illness? This is what is behind the Saudi issues today. Canada has in effect said anyone who follows the Quran is a lunatic. Well they do have the Moon on all the mosques is that the LUNA sign of a Tic?
dan adams says
I hope someone sues the government when this guy kills again…hold them accountable.
David M says
To be fair Muslims often kill other Muslims in Islamic countries for being not Muslim enough. Sunni Muslims often kill Shia Muslims for that reason.
gravenimage says
David, how does this make things any better? Muslims are violently cruel both to each other and to Infidels.
David M says
I agree, I’m just saying when there are no infidels around their bloodlust demands somebody be killed for not being Muslim enough.
gravenimage says
Very true, David.
wife & i says
University’s Demise – Preservation only for a while longer – the Almighty will soon turn the tables on them!
*Mainly by the destruction of (Esau’s) the mother country’s
*All this lawlessness will come to a sudden end – Most will go directly the the Lake of Fire – They’ll know why, Great white Throne Judgment is for those that are in the torment side of Hades – Actually all of Hades, since Jesus emptied the paradise side. Woe to the lost (those who reject Christ Jesus) inhabitants of the world!
Heb 13: 5 & 6
shalom
&
maranatha
Charles says
Machete attacks frequency in the UK: one every 90 minutes. When is Canada’s turn coming? We do have the same Queen…… and the same ruling class.
gravenimage says
Charles, I have to admit I thought this was an overstatement–even a ridiculous overstatement–I could not have imagined that things were anywhere near that bad in Britain yet.
I was wrong–your are quite right:
“One machete crime every 90 minutes on Britain’s streets as police try to deal with thugs carrying out murders, rapes and burglaries”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5609593/One-machete-attack-90-minutes-UK-streets.html
My apologies. And my heart breaks for Britain–I thought I was pretty savvy about the harm Islam was doing to the UK, but I am just stunned by this.
gravenimage says
You are quite right
mortimer says
It’s the IDEOLOGY, stupid. Did the psychs study the JIHAD DOCTRINE? or the TAQIYYA DOCTRINE? or the NEAR-ENEMY DOCTRINE? or the ISLAMIC APARTHEID DOCTRINE – AL WALAA WAL BARAA???
No, they did not.
So how do the PSYCHS think they can understand Mr. Ali’s ISLAMIC MOTIVATION???
Obviously, the psychs CANNOT understand the ISLAMIC MOTIVATION of Mr. Ali. They are TOTALLY IN THE DARK about the Islamic CORE TEXTS that require the HATRED of and WARFARE AGAINST the dirty KUFAAR.
balam says
Mortimer: Dd Mohammad suffer from any MENTAL ILLNESS?
mortimer says
balam, many think the illness was temporal lobe epilepsy.
Read this and similar articles: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina41204.htm
Muhammad and Temporal Lobe Epilepsy (TLE)
By Ali Sina
The Physical Effects of Muhammad’s Ecstatic Experiences:
Here is how Muhammad described his mystical experiences:
“The Revelation is always brought to me by an angel: sometimes it is delivered to me as the beating sound of the bell–and this is the hardest experience for me; but sometimes the angel appears to me in the shape of a human and speaks to me.” [40]
“Those who saw the Prophet (pbuh) in this state relate that his condition would change. Sometimes he would stay motionless as if some terribly heavy load was pressed on him and, even in the coldest day, drops of sweat would fall from his forehead” [41] At other times he would move his lips.
Ibn Sa’d says, “at the moment of inspiration, anxiety pressed upon the Prophet, and his countenance was troubled” [1]
“He fell to the ground like one intoxicated or overcome by sleep; and in the coldest day his forehead would be bedewed with large drops of perspiration. Inspiration descended unexpectedly, and without any previous warning.” [2]
“Then Allah’s Apostle returned with that experience; and the muscles between his neck and shoulders were trembling till he came upon Khadija (his wife) and said, “Cover me!” They covered him, and when the state of fear was over” [3] and [4]
All these are symptoms of Temporal Lobe Epilepsy. The following is a partial list of the Temporal Lobe Seizure Symptoms & Signs as defined in health.allrefer.com
•Hallucinations or illusions such as hearing voices when no one has spoken, seeing patterns, lights, beings or objects that aren’t there
•Rhythmic muscle contraction Muscle cramps are involuntary and often painful contractions of the muscles which produce a hard, bulging muscle
• Abdominal pain or discomfort.
•Sudden, intense emotion such as fear.
• Muscle twitching (fasciculation) is the result of spontaneous local muscle contractions that are involuntary and typically only affect individual muscle groups. This twitching does not cause pain.
•Abnormal mouth behaviors
•Abnormal head movements
• Sweating
• Flushed face
• Rapid heart rate/pulse
•Changes in vision, speech, thought, awareness, personality
•Loss of memory (amnesia) regarding events around the seizure (partial complex seizure)
All the above symptoms were present in Muhammad during the moments that he was allegedly receiving revelations.
Donovan Nuera says
Excellent post. I had read about that too. I see a lot of epilepsy sufferers in my line of work and partial complex temporal lobe seizures can start with very odd auras (acrid/ozone/fecal olfactory (smell) hallucinosis, strong deja vu/jamais vu feelings, abdominal discomfort, music/aural hallucinosis, or other odd bizarre premonitions. This is followed by motor/speech arrest, head turning to the opposite side of where the affected lobe lies, and en-garde pose with asymmetric posturing of arms, mouth -lip movements, followed by collapse and strong urge to sleep or a secondary generalized seizure for a few minutes, with post-ictal sonorous sighing and deep breathing. Some people also wake up combative of frightened and amnestic. (If leftist dhimmi enablers, who always bash the conservatives about being “anti-science!!”,want to put their gigantic superior brains to work, why not pose this theory to them and see if just maybe Mo’s hyperreligiousity and flights of grandeur could be a combo of bipolar and temporal lobe epilepsy. They all seem to celebrate when a small news item in USA Today or the Guardian reports that scientists have “proven” the Shroud of Turin a “medieval forgery”)
gravenimage says
Of course, most epileptics are not vicious thugs as Muhammed was.
Charles says
Mortimer: No! Psychs are not in the dark. They know precisely what they are doing, and so does that creep Trudeau.
Linda says
After all, it was only Canadian soldiers he was stabbing. Nothing but the best for this poor little oppressed fellow. Trudeau himself will tell you what racists those awful Canadians are.
gravenimage says
+1
christianblood says
This is Canada, totally naive, ignorant, stupid, Pro-jihadist, ultra liberal and transgendered:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbiAHnjHlHg
gravenimage says
Yes, this story is ridiculous–and most Canadians consider it ridiculous, as well.
But that Christianblood apparently considers this completely silly person to be worse than murderous Jihadists is very telling.
christianblood says
gravenimage
Majority of Canadians (and other Westerners) like what this man is and doing, support him in it, love ISIS and Islamists and Hate Christians!
THAT IS A FACT!
gravenimage says
What claptrap. Most Canadians are nothing like this.
What Christianblood means is that Canadians and other Westerners are not apt to use violence against this silly person. He is enraged that gay people are allowed to live unmolested in the West.
He has *never once* said anything critical about Muslims hanging gay people from cranes, throwing them off tall buildings, stoning them to death, or running camps that torture and murder gay people.
This last is allowed to take place in Russia itself–in Chechnya. I have asked him to condemn this scores of times, and he will not. One can only assume that Christianblood applauds this savagery.
Linda says
I find this confusing: On the one hand, Islam mandates the death penalty for homosexuality and on the other hand, Muslims have bacha bazi. How can this be permissible in Islam?
A_M_Swallow says
Boys are not (yet) men.
Linda says
But boys and men are both male, so I still don’t see how it’s permissible.
A_M_Swallow says
Then do not become a lawyer, you will not be able to find the loop holes.
christianblood says
Linda
Islam has many, many contradictions and this is one of them.
Some islamic texts (hadiths) even teach that in the islamic paradise, there will be ‘pearly’ boys!
Linda says
I didn’t make this comment. Are there two “Lindas”?
gravenimage says
Linda, this is not really a contradiction–what Muslims hate is *consensual* same-sex relations. But pedophilia and homosexual rape intended to humiliate seems to be fine.
And to the other Linda, I’m sure there is more than one Linda here.
There is a Carol who now posts as “Carol the 1st” because there was another Carol posting her for a while. I can see how this can be frustrating.
Linda says
I’ll change my handle then.
Westman says
“..will be allowed to attend Mohawk College across the street from the secure psychiatric unit where he’s currently being detained..”
Don’t forget to count the knives before he leaves to attend class.
A_M_Swallow says
And not just the knives in the university’s canteen.
Norger says
Oh come on now. What could possibly go wrong?
Smarty says
I sort of hope something does go wrong, maybe the Canucks will finally wake up
Agha Ali Arkhan says
Hmm. Another attack on Canadian soldiers in Canada, eh? Can’t say I’m happy about that. Say, was the last hanging in Canada at the Don Jail in Toronto?
mortimer says
Agha, the soldiers nearby reacted swiftly by tackling Mr. Ali and beaning him with a printer thus forcing him to surrender.
balam says
Why dd the solders not shoot ALI dead and let him enjoy 72 VIRGINS n the ISLAMIC WHORE HOUSE?
mortimer says
balam, you do not understand soldiering … TAKE THEM ALIVE and INTEROGATE.
The Rules of Engagement are very clear about JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE.
I am appalled that you relish and sollicit MURDER. Shame.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, do you really believe that having to shoot someone stabbing soldiers is “murder”?
DAvid says
If I’m not mistaken the only way you could protect yourself in court from this idiot is if you took the machete(presumably) away from him. If you did so you would not be allowed to use it. (the court would assume the danger had passed and you had no right to use it) The teachers union should step in here and protest the safety to one of it’s members. This is(not so slow) incrementalism of the NWO. Wait until the rape gangs get going in Canada. Where will the men be? God’s speed all
Bill says
Funny is it not how Trudeau never gives a hoot about the suffering inflicted on Canadian citizens? Has he done anything (other than perhaps mouthing platitudes, if that) for the infidel victims in Toronto?
That maiming and murder cannot happen soon enough for him. The sooner that infidels are cleansed from Canada, normal citizens are terrified, and all the firearms confiscated, the sooner he can dictate over his full on socialist empire of the north.
Apparently, our President’s crack down on illegal immigrants is forcing them to not pass go and collect $200 as they head straight for crossing into Canada’s southern border. Trudeau has to be loving that.
mortimer says
Jihadi Justin made it clear to Muslims around the world that he never met an Islamic TERRORIST that he didn’t like.
James Lincoln says
Even if this particular Muslim previously had untreated schizophrenia, without the addition of Islamic indoctrination the chances are good that this attack against three soldiers at a Toronto recruiting center would have never happened.
Mr. Ali should never be allowed to attend classes on his own at Mohawk College. He should be treated with long-acting injectable antipsychotics, serve his time in a secure supervised setting, and then be deported – if at all possible – to his Islamic country of origin.
gravenimage says
Very much agree.
FYI says
Questioner:Hey,God of Moses,of Jesus:is it ok to murder people?
GOD..Whaaat?Of course not:The Sixth commandment.It’s pretty clear..
Questioner:Hey,allah,god of the moslems:is it ok to murder people?
allah Sure it is:”slay them wherever ye find them” koran 2:191
Questioner:But..allah..what about that Sixth Commandment prohibiting Murder?
allah….the sixth.?..what ..now?what are you?A Jew?
Questioner:But wasn’t Moses a Jew?what about Abraham?what about God’s Commandments allah?
allah..ehm..no..moses was..a muslim.”Abraham was not a Jew” k3 v 67.What the hell are the “commandments”?
gravenimage says
Yes–this is how Muslims think.
Ewanda says
New strategy to use …..
When we are told that these Jihadis are mentally ill agree with them. Say, “YES!!
Practicing Islam makes you crazy. It’s the longest running Human Experiment EVER in Sensory Deprivation!!……….. deprived of sunlight; deprived of artistic expression; deprived of creativity in music; deprived of using the part of the brain that invents things; deprived of equal opportunities; deprived of laughing till your sides hurt; deprived of viewing happy, smiling faces; deprived of a rounded education because so many subjects are off limits; deprived of thinking for oneself because Sharia dictates even how many pebbles are needed to wipe one’s butt with which hand, with which way to face, with which foot to step into the building and which foot to leave with; deprived of the feeling of owning a black dog; deprived of needing a seeing-eye dog which can’t go into a mosque for prayers; deprived of choosing not to watch brutal live animal sacrifices to a deity from a very young age which causes desensitization; deprived of making friendships with a whole range of human beings; deprived of the security of not being beaten up as a wife; ……..” .
Boy … I could go on and on with points but I used this tactic on someone and it gave me a chance to rattle off a lot more facts than the previous argument that they are not mentally ill, they are just following the tenets of their Ideology. Try it sometime
A_M_Swallo says
Amy man who hears things from ‘God’ telling him to kill should be locked up in a mental hospital for LIFE.
Ren says
«Muslim who stabbed soldiers and said “Allah told me to kill people” allowed to attend college»
Thanks Trudeau!
Rarely says
There really are qualified psychiatrists (vert few are found commenting on this site) and there really are some easily detected and clearly defined mental illnesses. Sometimes muslims have them. That often means that the person is not criminally responsible as was the case here. In Canada the person is sentenced to a mental institution for an indefinite period of time which sometimes lasts for life. He/she may only be released if found to be mentally competent and no longer a threat to society. Someone has obviously dropped the ball here but I would not be surprised if it wasn’t picked up before he gets to go to college unsupervised.
Beaumont says
I am a masculine white, was on the honor role, got national honors in a STEM field, won science fairs and ticker tape parades. Want to tell me that there’s not enough to go around? Really?
Rarely says
“Enough” what?
Blather says
Norman Bates Trudeau has just endangered your lives, you college kids. Just thought I’d let you know. Not about he Muslim hatred, but Trudeau’s hatred FOR YOU!
Jack Cade says
This barbarian is NOT college material.
gravenimage says
No, indeed, Jack–and he will be endangering those who are–students, professors, and staff.
Older Canadian says
There is no way I would pay tuition to attend a school if I had prior knowledge that such a person was a student.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Older Canadian. I very much doubt Mohawk College is going to warn students or staff about this homicidal schizophrenic Mohammedan who has already attacked soldiers in their midst. There is nothing about it on their website.
Older Canadian says
Just heard on radio show that the college was not aware of this. Paraphrasing…they said he will not be admitted as they have an obligation to the other students. So it looks like these doctors were just sounding off in their political correct mode.
gravenimage says
*Great* to hear, Older Canadian.
Perhaps they though he was a non-violent person having some mental health issues. Glad to see they care about their students.
StellaSaidSo says
What college has lowered its standards to the depth at which this moron would qualify for entrance?
gravenimage says
Good question, Stella.
It turns out that Mohawk College’s entrance requirements are incredibly low–a high school diploma from the Ontario public schools or some international equivalent:
https://www.mohawkcollege.ca/international-students/international-programs-and-how-to-apply/admission-requirements
Of course, I doubt very much that Ayanle Hassan Ali even has this, so it was probably waived in his case.
Donovan Nuera says
Remember …..Yale almost let in the Taliban spokesman. Allahu Boola Boola Boo-bar!!
A_M_Swallow says
At what point does the college become an accessory to the murder of any future students?
This is the sort of decision that doubles your insurance premiums.
gravenimage says
The university has said it did not know about his violent background, and are rescinding the offer that he attend. I’m glad to hear it.
A_M_Swallow says
Good.
The college will have to include questions about convictions on its application forms.
Donovan Nuera says
I bet 50 Canadian dollars that within 2 weeks, he will be dating a coed whose mummy and daddy are rich multi-cultists, gets her to convert and attend MSA meetings each Friday, and then fathers a kid by June 2019. He then gets elected BDS chairman and also for Free Palestine Club. His Comparative Religion professor will be found beheaded in the Quad. GO MOHAWKS!!!! BEAT MCGILL!!!
gravenimage says
Mohawk College found out he was a Jihadist and rescinded the offer. Shall I send you my PO Box address to collect my money?
Actually, I’m just glad that things are not completely insane in Canada. That is reward enough.
livingengine says
He was a good boy. Look! Everyone said so. Let him babysit your kids. What could go wrong?
https://toronto.citynews.ca/video/2016/03/16/video-who-is-ayanle-hassan-ali/
Daniel says
How much has this person already cost Canadian taxpayers? I am sure that he is not paying for his college and accommodation himself. This is sponsoring terrorism as far as I am concerned.
Politicianophobia says
Mohawk College, the same Mohawk College, that allowed Imam Mazim Abdul-Adhim, head of the terrorists group, Hibz ut-Tharir speak. If one looks at the footage he had an ISIS flag on the stage when he delivered his 45 minute rant about how wonderful Islam is and how they will take over.
gravenimage says
You are right–thanks for the head’s up. Here’s that disgusting story:
“Pro-Shariah caliphate lecture held at Ontario college”
https://torontosun.com/2016/01/06/mohawk-college-distances-itself-from-refugee-crisis-speaker/wcm/a555746c-1446-4c25-adbd-49cbee5e2de7
D3F1ANT says
You can’t make this stuff up…
Dane potts says
It seems our goverments no longer serve the people of their countries. They prefare to protect members of a sick twisted cult that grooms abuses rapes and slaughters women and children and anyone else that dont agree with their so called prophet.
greggie says
I guess we need to build a wall on our north border as well. #MAGA
Mary says
I live near mohawk and we have had quite a few escapes from the hospital. Some of the patients just walk away. Very scary.
gravenimage says
Scary.