“My dear brothers and sisters, this idea of fitting in – we need to eliminate this from our vocabulary. Again, we are to stand out. We are a unique nation with a unique set of solutions. We are not to fit in. How dare the truth and the falsehood hold hands? How dare we think that fitting in is the sole purpose of this message?”
Will US authorities heed this and ponder its implications? Of course not.
“Haitham Ibn Thbait of the U.S. chapter of Hizb-ut-Tahrir Warns Muslims of the ‘Perils’ of Western Democracy: Our Children Become U.S. Soldiers, FBI Agents, Republicans, Democrats, and Gay,” MEMRI, April 29, 2018:
Haitham Ibn Thbait, a member of Hizb-ut-Tahrir America, said that Islam stands in “total contradiction to what the West represents” – liberalism, democracy, feminism, and movements such as DREAM, #metoo, Black Lives Matter, LGBTQ, Pro-Choice, and Occupy Wall Street. Speaking at Hizb-ut-Tahrir America’s annual Khilafa Conference, Ibn Thbait said that “we should be working within our own system, not democracy” and warned that “our children might prefer democracy to Islam.” “Can you imagine the Prophet of Allah standing alongside the LGBTQ community? Or with Pro-Choice? Or with… the Occupy movements?” he said. The conference was held in Palos Hills, Illinois on April 29. Ibn Thbait expressed similar sentiments at the Khilafa Conference held in 2016 in Chicago (see MEMRI TV clip 5493).
The following are excerpts from the speech:
Haitham Ibn Thbait: There’s a global narrative against ideological Islam, a narrative that wants to scare Muslims away from the straight path, to instill distrust in the straight path.
[…]
Many of our community members are recruited so that they can translate, so that they can corrupt our creed, and so that they can consult the infidels in how to derail the Muslims and set them on a course pleasing to the West. Policymakers work long and hard to ensure that we Muslims believe that you can succeed under their ways and with their values. And that is why we see them promoting these so-called “ hip” Muslims who clearly violate the laws of Allah. We see a veiled Muslim woman on the cover of a sex magazine. We see Muslims in their armies. We see Muslims in political office. This is their way of saying to us, “You don’t need your straight path. We have all you need.” As early as 2004, RAND stated that they needed to get behind the modernists. They need to provide them with the platform to disseminate their ideas, and this is exactly what we are seeing today – the promotion of the secular Muslim. Whether knowing or otherwise, Muslims in the West are soldiers against Islam.
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But what we need to understand is that the battle between us and the West is an ideological battle. It’s an ideological battle. Everything we represent goes in total contradiction to what the West represents, because all of Islam is in opposition to secularism. They know this, and it is time that we did too.
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We need to differentiate ourselves. We cannot accept an identity that has clearly destroyed humanity. Look around you. They are failures, and we know this. And we need to take an intimate look at what is happening in the West so we can better articulate what is happening to our Muslims. We need to understand that Islam is the solution to all the ills that have destroyed them. And if we seek to fit in, then we are part and parcel of the problem that is infecting the world at large. My dear brothers and sisters, this inferiority does not belong to us. It is not befitting of a nation who Allah has labeled the best nation. “You are the best nation that has come out of the people.” How dare you be inferior while at the same time Allah has given you the attribute of being the best nation….
My dear brothers and sisters, this idea of fitting in – we need to eliminate this from our vocabulary. Again, we are to stand out. We are a unique nation with a unique set of solutions. We are not to fit in. How dare the truth and the falsehood hold hands? How dare we think that fitting in is the sole purpose of this message? A Muslim may not choose which aspect of Islam to adhere to or to abandon. We have no choice in the matter. We find our Muslim brothers and sisters jumping on every bandwagon – DREAM, #MeToo, Black Lives Matter – every single bandwagon we can think of, attempting to solve these problems from within the confines of the same system that produces these problems, when we have our own set of solutions.
Man in crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar”!
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Man in crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar”!
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Haitham Ibn Thbait: Allah Akbar.
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If there is one thing and one thing alone that we can arm our children with, it’s to believe that they are part of the best nation, to eradicate the sense of inferiority that is so deeply entrenched in many of our kids. My dear brothers and sisters…
Man in crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar”!
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Man in crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar”!
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Haitham Ibn Thbait: Allah Akbar.
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But can you imagine the Prophet of Allah standing alongside the LGBTQ community? Or with Pro-Choice? Or with the movements, the Occupy movements? Imagine the Prophet and his companions acting as if they are devoid of solutions, carrying ad hoc politics and contradictory messages. This is not who we are. Think about these actions that we see by our community leaders and measure them in accordance with the actions of the Prophet of Allah and his companions. And then the picture will be clear.
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And when we look at our leaders in our community, they have engaged in the secular process. They have clearly sided with haram laws. Many of them have promoted policies that undermine Islam. They have sided with agendas such as countering extremism and the war on terror, or even recognizing the Zionist occupation.
And our communities do what? They silence voices that speak against the war on terror. They silence voices that speak against the secular narrative on Islam. They silence voices that speak against integration. They silence voices that speak out against the murdering surveillance of Muslims. And they silence voices that seek to instill confidence in Muslims. And we wonder why our children fall victims daily to the ills that have ravaged the West. Our children have engaged in sexual behavior. Our children consume drugs. Our children grow up to consume interest. Our children have become U.S. soldiers. They have become informants, FBI agents, Republicans, Democrats, and gay, because Islam does not offer them solutions according to the mosques. They have limited the role of Islam so our children grow up thinking Islam has nothing to say about anything in life. So they subscribe to any agenda other than the agenda of Islam.
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These kids just wanted to feel some confidence, some trust, some pride in who they were. These same kids had they not had that opportunity may grow up one day and when asked, “What is your favorite system?” they will say democracy instead of Islam, because their inferiority started at a very early stage in their life.
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The only way to stand up against the state and its policies is by having your own state and its policies.
Man in crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar”!
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Man in crowd, followed by crowd and Haitham Ibn Thbait: There is no God but Allah, and Muhammad is His Messenger!
There is no God but Allah, the Caliphate is His Unity!
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Haitham Ibn Thbait: Islam was not sent to spread liberal values. Muhammad was not a secularist, not a feminist, not a pro-gay activist, and not a philosopher. He is the final messenger and the seal of prophets, and a mercy to mankind….
Marina says
So why are you living in the west? Go live in your dream caliphate and leave us in peace.
Andy says
AMEN
Rob says
Rob says
Rufolino says
Typical unbelievable Moslem arrogance !
Dave says
Marina, Maybe you are ignorant. They come here to takeover America by subverting its rules to make it work for expanding islam by stealth
why should they go out ? Its the dumb kuffars who are too ignorant and stupid who allow them with corrupt media/politicians shilling for islam while they get paid Millions of petro dollars along the way to sell out.
Andy says
NO WHITES ALLOWED!!!
The “Islamic paradise” that’s heading your way
Carol the 1st says
Good video – full of muscled, bare-chested muslim male best-buds, out on the streets (in Birmingham), looking well-trained for their version of social activism (upon an unarmed and apparently captive public)! The other day as I walked down a fairly busy Cdn. street I was almost run over by a similar type as he bicycled past me (studiously displaying nary a care nor even a backward glance). “Little things mean a lot”.
Pontificator Haitham Ibn Thbait should take the time to show and discuss everything in this video with all muslim youth in danger of being Westernized. And hopefully they are sufficiently objective now to begin opening their eyes even wider.
Carol the 1st says
By serendipity I just ran into my D/L of Eckhart Tolle’s book Stillness Speaks. He says that Attention to what *is* dissolves the barriers of *conceptual thought* and is the healer of separation.
He adds, “Whenever you are immersed in COMPULSIVE THINKING, you are avoiding what is. You don’t want to be where you are. Here, Now.”
Islam would show real wisdom if it left the seventh century and its baggage behind.
Mike says
Perfectly ridiculous
chantal says
Sickening and the whatever they call it chanting is cringy!
Ada Taiber says
Correct! We should all study the history of Islam and how it destroyed each country they controlled! Churchill said that when Muslims are a minority they fight for minority rights, but when they are the majority there are no humane rights!!!!
gravenimage says
Marina, Muslims are here to conquer us.
Mike says
Don’t have to conquer anything. With the idiotic teaching at universities and even in some schools as far down the chain as grade school we will hand this country over willingly in not so many years.
gravenimage says
That will be part of the conquest. dhimmis have, sadly, often surrendered in part. Not all conquest is violent.
PRCS says
They’re not ALL here to conquer. As Robert Spencer notes–many just want to live their lives in peace.
That really means–in contrast to Islam’s best slaves–either not knowing what Qur’an and Sunn’ah actually say or picking and choosing from them.
Of course, it’s we filthy unbelievers (of many faiths and none) they will oppose and work against–when the time comes.
And, as always, the Haitham Ibn Thbait ‘s of the world have audiences eager to hear their message.
infidel says
This worm is not come here to leave BUT LIVE at Ur expense like a virus .. He and his kind will never leave until they completely ruin ur lands or at the minimum partition it to Islamic and non-Islamic parts.
infidel says
This worm has come here to stay and RUIN ur land Marina…. He and his kind will make sure of that or at the least partition Ur land into Islamic and non Islamic parts..
BC says
This why the wealthy Arab states refused to take in ‘refugees’ their own people, because they want them to go to Western countries to change them. Islamic supremacism at its most obvious
BC says
“We are a unique nation with a unique set of solutions”. Yes FGM, burkas, niqabs, torturing people to death for having sex, flogging, amputation, arranged (forced) marriage and wife beating to keep them respectful of men, to name but a few.
Notice he calls Muslims as nation NOT a RACE
JOHN says
SPOT ON!
Terry Gain says
Marina
Muslims live in the West because we are stupid enough to allow it. They are here living their dreams and fulfilling their religious obligation to make the whole world “for Allah”.
Tom Cox says
Migration is form of Jihad. They Migrate to conquer. They appear to fit in until a Muslim like the above fellow tells them they are not a real Muslim, that they can not cherry pick the verses of the Koran. Then he gives them a choice of becoming a real Muslim or being classified as a Kafir. Guess which the Muslim chooses?
gravenimage says
+1
Ada Taiber says
Muhamad ordered the muslims to conquer the world and turn it to a big backward chalifate!!!!
VarAway says
Just name one, just ONE muslim country that is not a hell hole country?
SJ says
VarAway. Exactly. Then they overtake a country THAT IS NOT THEIRS TO TAKE – and it turns into a Sht Hole. Remember, the only country that should be ‘Their home’ is Yemen. The rest should be taken back. They are profiteers and you can say ‘Colonialists’ and it needs to be acknowledged that they are quilty of the THEFT AND RAPE OF NATIONS. Islam is responsible for stealing many of the worlds countries. Now they’re after Europe and the United States. It must STOP.
They complain, but we DO NOT WANT THEM HERE ANYWAY. SO head on down to Yemen.
paul budrunas says
You say “This must stop”, but what are you doing to stop this madness? All I can do is to inform other infidels of the dangers of Islam and encourage them to read the Qu’ran. Besides this and vigilantism what else can we do? I’ve contacted my Senators and Reps to make them aware of the issue of Islam and I get back sappy form letters.
Looks to me as though we are doomed to become a muslim country simply because we are too stupid to act when confronted with the deadly threat of Islam. It’s not Islamophobia when they are trying to KILL you!
SJ says
It appears that this message needs to be BROADCAST Throughout the UNITED STATES, and the WESTERN WORLD.
Also, if he wants his “own” country for his Islam, he may go back to his people BIRTHPLACE which is Yemen. All other countries stolen by Islam should not count and should be reversed.
It’s really comical that he thinks Islam is more moral than the West. We all know that they don’t fight it out with their people, they just send a “mentally ill person” to do the bombing. Or they found them up in the square and cut their heads off, stone them, rape them and or torture them.
We must get them.out of the US. I’m sure the liberals will protest so we must send them this information.
Martin says
video ( 9 min )
The conference was held in Palos Hills, Illinois on April 29 2018
SJ says
VarAway. Exactly. Then they overtake a country THAT IS NOT THEIRS TO TAKE – and it turns into a Sht Hole. Remember, the only country that should be ‘Their home’ is Yemen. The rest should be taken back. They are profiteers and you can say ‘Colonialists’ and it needs to be acknowledged that they are quilty of the THEFT AND RAPE OF NATIONS. Islam is responsible for stealing many of the worlds countries. Now they’re after Europe and the United States. It must STOP.
They complain, but we DO NOT WANT THEM HERE ANYWAY. SO head on down to Yemen.
No Fear says
HuT are banned in a lot of muslim countries.
VRWC member77 says
Hizb-ut-Tahrir technically not MB organization but is still an anti-Western muslim organization since 1952:
In its self-description, Hizb-ut-Tahrir declares:
“Its work is not educational, as it is not a school, nor is its work concerned with giving sermons and preaching. Rather its work is political, in which the thoughts and laws of Islam are presented in order to act upon them and to carry them so as to establish them in life’s affairs and in the State.” Moreover, the organization professes a devotion to “THE STRUGGLE AGAINST THE DISBELIEVING IMPERIALISTS, TO DELIVER THE UMMAH from their domination and to liberate her from their influence by uprooting their intellectual, cultural, political, economic and military roots from all of the Muslim countries.”
Sounds an awful lot like the MB Explanatory Memorandum. Hizb-ut-Tahrir should be declared a terrorist organization.
Carol the 1st says
“…to deliver the Ummah from their (Imperialist) domination and to liberate her from their influence by uprooting their intellectual, cultural, political, economic and military roots (sooo harsh!) from all of the Muslim countries.”
So why is this rep of Hizb-ut-Tahrir not IN a muslim country? Why is he here? I guess he Sharia-thinks that since we’ve accommodatingly built mosques we’ve thus transferred ownership? How convenient.
FYI says
1.And everything islam represents with its murderous false god of hate and violence allah{ “the best of deceivers” k3;54}….. is in total contradiction of what the actual God represents.
allah : a linguistically-challenged, antisemitic racist bigot of a god k2:64,antichristian k9:30 and antisocial k5:51.A god so obtuse that he does not subscribe to the 2 chief commandments of God and reveals in k4:171 that he doesn’t even know where Biblical prophecy comes from.A god who admits to being the best of deceivers is very good at deceiving:that would be ..allah.
2.And islam’s pederast,mass-murdering {Abu dawud 4390}self-confessed false prophet{al tabari 6:111}and terrorist muhammed[sbuh}{bukhari 4:52;220}…is in total contradiction to what an actual prophet is and does.muslims wouldn’t know a true prophet if they saw or heard one.In fact Moses and Jesus {both Jews} would most likely be murdered by these “devout” muslims.
muhammed: a psycopathic mass-murdering polygamist pederast.To follow the sunnah of this “prophet” would require a life lived in violation of God’s commandments.. and no true prophet of God would ever do that.
3.And everything the unholy koran represents and teaches ……..is in total contradiction of God’s moral laws,His commandments.
the koran : a theologically-challenged,commandment-of-God violating,antisemitic and antichristian book that preaches hatred and violence.
sanctioned by allah the deceiver{but condemned by God’s commandments!}…
Thou may dishonor your family and parents k9:23
Thou shalt kill k2:191
Thou may commit commit adultery k4:24/k33:50
Thou may steal koran 48:20/ibn ishaq 764
Thou shalt lie koran 3:24 taqqiya
The 5/6/7/8/9th commandments of God openly defied by allah the deceiver god of islam.There are no two chief commandments in islam either.
allah must have been out that day..since he missed the most important aspect of God.
allah is NOT the God of Moses,muslims dishonor the true God.
And they think “allah the best of deceivers” is God.Five times a day they “pray” to an antichristian,antisemitic,misogynistic racist bigot of a god who tells muslims its ok to break God’s commandments{it isn’t}
God help you muslims if you cannot see the error of islam:your “allah” won’t save you.
Warmac9999 says
Why are statements like this not covered in the msn. This is critical to a functioning America.
SJ says
Agreed! We need to get this info to the Democrats and our US citizens. Then we should make sure the EU countries get it and then the CABAL EU bastards.
StellaSaidSo says
The globalists (who control MSM) do not want a functioning America. Or a functioning Europe. They want chaos and destruction so that they can proceed unimpeded with their totalitarian agenda. It is our fellow citizens and the unwitting ‘useful idiots’ who presume to ‘lead’ us that we need to inform.
Westman says
Haitham Ibn Thbait just disowned Linda Sarsour, Reza Aslan, and, more or less, every popular Muslim living in the West. He also clearly denounced democracy, declared Muslim supremacy, and called for a seditious shadow nation that will not serve in the military or participate in administration under democracy.
He has spoken clearly that orthodox Muslims are not here to become Westerners, rather, they are here to colonize in a better enviroment – one seen clearly via modern communications. As King Faisal said to T.E. Lawrence, “No Arab loves the desert!”
DMC says
And this is while they are still the minority, can you imagine what would happen a Christian if they made bold statements like this against the Islamic culture they were living in , they’d be hung by the neck !
gravenimage says
True–Muslims are becoming further emboldened, but they are still nothing like a majority here.
Westman says
Here is a dose of reality for Haitham Ibn Thbait:
https://www.memri.org/reports/ghassan-charbel-advocates-progress-instead-of-nostalgia
“Once, it was army generals who [drew] the maps and determined the fate of countries. That time has passed. Today, your fate is in the hands of the generals of Silicon Valley – Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and others. Don’t try to shirk benefiting [from progress] on the pretext that you belong to a different world. You are part of the global village, like it or not. The later you are to join (integrate doesn’t work well in English) in this context the whirlwind of progress, the more it will cost you to join [it]. We have no choice but to join [the whirlwind of progress]. Any other option means that you become a burden to the world, that you are left on the platform, that your economy is archaic, and that your cities are aging even faster. Your country must join [this progress], or everything in it will be turned back – from the universities, through the hospitals and the military, to the postal service. It would be a great mistake to try to cover [up we Arabs’ technological backwardness] by clinging to the glorious achievements of [our] history. The winner will be the one who writes future history – not the one clinging to the past.”
“Do not try to escape the challenges by seeking refuge in the deep recesses of time. Others have history that parallels or surpasses your own, and had they surrendered to dwelling on the past, Vienna would not Vienna, Berlin would not be Berlin, and Paris would not be Paris. Joining the future saves your history from oblivion, and makes it into fuel for the train of progress. Do not delay and do not hesitate; this is your battle, and you must rescue your descendants, not avenge your ancestors.”
pemba says
In spite of all the contradiction, why hell on earth Muslims are flocking in to enter western world.
In their countries they are treated worst than animals by there governments.
When they rape in their county they get killed by a sword or hanged or face firing squad in public.
gravenimage says
They are here to wage violent Jihad against us.
JAY LEE says
spoken like a true Islamic caliphate. this is pure islam. if these bastards had their americastan, these apostate muslims who violates the sharia law would be punished by death. haha we don’t need this Haitham in our country. He should be on under Trump admin watch list.
mortimer says
Haitham Ibn Thbait apparently wants to PROMOTE a POLITICAL AGENDA.
He is a HYPOCRITE living in one of the freest of all countries and yet he is lecturing Muslims on how they should establish a PARALLEL SOCIETY in the US.
Muslims all came to the US to ESCAPE the OPPRESSIVENESS of Islamic BERZERKISTANS and seek FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
Here Haitham Ibn Thbait is USING his FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION to PROMOTE ENSLAVEMENT!
What a contradictory moron!
Westman says
However, things are not going his way which is why he’s preaching to the choir with a scowl on his face.
Many Muslims are abandoning the strictures of Islam for the rest of their lives. In Western countries the laws do not allow muslim leaders to force compliance through state violence. Any Muslim who can learn the language and gain employable skills can escape Islam.
James Lincoln says
Westman,
Correct, and may I add that this “Muslim leader” is, ironically, hurting his cause by making this an issue.
gravenimage says
Not necessarily. Some of these Muslims decide to become more devout–i.e., to present a threat to us.
dunk says
If the west is so horrible to HuT,why not stay away and at least try to sort out the mess in your own backyard, no? well you are right muslims can not agree on anything.Give it a try anyway and go back
gravenimage says
Illinois: Muslim leader says “Everything we represent goes in total contradiction to what the West represents”
………………….
He’s not lying…
infidel says
The seeds of partition of the Greater West is being laid with this very speech. These were the same kinds of speeches that led to the partition of India in 1947… U in the West have been warned. THIS IS SEDITION served out cold and raw and I wonder whether the authorities will ever take any action!!
Sheri says
According to Public Law 414 – June 27, 1952 No Muslims are allowed in the USA.
https://www.thepostemail.com/2015/12/08/public-law-414-june-27-1952/
Frank says
It’s the Hijra: to emigrate, colonize and proselytize for the death cult of Islam. Oil rich Muslim countries are complicit in this migration for that one reason alone. The Hijra must be our mantra.
Jay says
Citizen’s arrest of this man would be totally justified. Where are our police & military when our country is so invaded by these enemies?
Rich says
The US is a Constitutional Republic..and muslims are far from PRO-LIFE
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Chantal says
Muslims like him come to our countries and claim to have all the solutions. But where they come from, they cant EVEN FIND ONE SOLUTION to the problems of the islamic countries. They cant even stay in their countries to rebuild. They are cowards. They,d rather come here to our countries and destroy them . That is what we see all over Europe with the mass immigration of muslims. Obviously, if there were happy where they come from, they would stay there. We are looking for immigrants to fit in with our democraces, NOT DICTATORSHIP or theocracies, freedom of speech, NOT SILENCING OF OUR VOICES.
Egon Speneder says
Islam has turned Beirut, which used to be the “Jewel of the Middle East” into a graveyard, as it has with the Persian Empire (Iran), Indonesia, parts of the Sudan, parts of Eastern Europe etc. Islam wars within its own sectarian factions, it leaves death and destruction behind its path; And now it wants to do the same to the West who has lost its moorings in Secular Humanism and Marxism!
Save Europe says
I assume the ‘veiled Muslim woman on the cover of a sex magazine’ he is referring to is Sila Sahin, in Playboy Germany.
For his information she is NOT Muslim!