The David Horowitz Freedom Center sent out the email below a short while ago. This is good news, and another serious blow to the credibility of the Southern Poverty Law Center, which was behind MasterCard and Visa banning the Freedom Center in the first place.
However, this isn’t over. I’m still banned by GoFundMe and Patreon, also because of the defamation of the Southern Poverty Law Center. I’m talking to lawyers and hoping to institute legal proceedings. And I’ll keep fighting against Leftist attempts to extinguish the freedom of speech in any way I can.
Robert,
By now I’m sure you’ve heard the news of MasterCard and Visa colluding with Left-wing front groups to shut down our fundraising efforts.
And after 2 days of meetings with our attorneys I have good news and bad news.
The good news is they’re backing down.
That’s right. Late last night we got a call that MasterCard and Visa reversed the action and we’d be able to get our donation platform up and running again.
The bad news is this is just the beginning of the most brutal battle for the future of our country.
We’ve seen just how far they’ll go to silence anyone that dares question them.
And with the midterms around the corner and their ongoing assault on our President and anyone that supports him, we need to be prepared to fight like we’ve never fought before.
Robert, this is a wake up call. There’s nothing the Left won’t do to silence those of us that love this country — and there’s no telling what they’ll do next.
So you and I need to be prepared for anything and everything.
Thank you for standing with the Freedom Center when we need you most.
For America,
David Horowitz
Lisa says
Just sent this to Gofundme. Feel free to copy and send too. Its hard to find their “contact us”.
https://support.gofundme.com/hc/en-us
I understand that Gofundme has refused to work with Jihad Watch. I am very much against businesses performing this kind of censorship, especially when it is completely undeserved. I have read Jihad Watch and the related books for years and not once found a lie, a threat or a call for violence in any of Robert Spencer’s writings. He reports on nd explains very important events that are hushed or under reported by other sources.
I believe you serve a very good function in the world. However, if your organization continues to use your platform for silencing needed voices, I will not use that function. I hope to see these accounts re-established immediately.
gravenimage says
Good letter to GoFundMe, Lisa.
jule says
The Horowitz center law team (IRF) really needs to Sue SPLC for all of us.If Narwaz could do it THEY could do it with all of us behind them.
PRODOS says
Well done, Lisa!
Lisa says
This one is for Patreon!
I understand that Patreon has refused to work with Jihad Watch. I am very much against businesses performing this kind of censorship, especially when it is completely undeserved. I have read Jihad Watch and the related books for years and not once found a lie, a threat or a call for violence in any of Robert Spencer’s writings. He reports on and explains very important events that are hushed or under reported by other sources. I believe you serve a very good function. However, if your organization continues to use your platform for silencing needed voices, I will not use that function. I hope to see the account re-established immediately.
gravenimage says
+1
This is exactly the kind of letter that is needed–polite but firm.
Lisa says
Thanks?
PRODOS says
Another good letter! 🙂
jule says
I have also found Jihad Watch and Gatestone to be very professional, intellectual, full of clear ‘critical thinking’ and cannot understand the why of the badmouthing. They used to say…don’t make the Muslims mad because we need them to rt on people or don’t make MidEast Muslims mad because we need out Corporations, contractor their for the profits and mines and whatever else we can exploit. Media cannot function with donors with bias.Still I don’t get it. Same as i do’t get how whitesupremacists, KKKlan, Evengelicals, nazigroups cannot see how they RuIN our chances to remove Islam. Christians for Israel are WONDERFUL. EMET (Jewish group) is going strong in Canada. Let them think what they want but KEEP QUIET UNTIL WE REMOVE ISLAM FOR GOSH SAKES. We have no chance with their protests and clamor in blogs and websites. Lookwaht just happened in Sweden! All the Nazitroops caused a ruckus and all the decent people will ALWAYS hate them and then see Islam as poor victims who need a hug. SICKENING. Nazigroups bring our DOOM! because no one respect them after Hitler. Doesn’t any one see what i mean?
gravenimage says
No offense, but I would not lump in Evangelicals with white supremacists, Nazis, and the Klan.
Moreover, both the Nazis and the Klan have been quite Islamophilic through much of their history.
jule says
The only reason I do is because they are opening the door for religions to say who they will and will not serve. I see their point but it is opening the door for Muslims too. Also, they seem to want to make laws according to their believe on all people who not believe as they do. Guess what will happen when Islam starts that. I think they should cool it until Islam is either gone or submits to us. Whatever extra rights the get for themselves, they get for Islam. I wonder why they do not see.
Frank Anderson says
DH and RS, my entire wealth would be pocket change to some people. But whatever I can do within the limits of my ability to help JW and the Freedom Center will be done. The lawyers previously mentioned as advising the decisions are well known and should be giving the best advice. Suit or not, I expect to support.
Brett_McS says
The law suit was against “tortious interference with commerce” if I have the phrase correct. That sounds like it would apply to most of these cases. Donation sent!
gravenimage says
MasterCard and Visa back down, will again process donations to David Horowitz Freedom Center
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This is *great news*.
I know this isn’t over–there is still Patreon and GoFundMe–but this is still a great step!
Bill Smyth says
Hello Robert, what about starting a petition to GoFundMe and Patreon, to make it clear that their behaviour is illegal and unethical? I’m sure you would get LOTS of signatures, even from some who don’t agree with your views.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
So David Horowitz wants a donation from Robert Spencer? Shouldn’t Robert Spencer want a donation from David Horowitz? Or better yet, shouldn’t they both solicit substantial donations from the Southern Poverty Law Center (which is pretty flush with cash)?
Asally says
This is the problem we face when we nominate and elect a shallow person of poor character to the highest office in the land. Maybe if our President were not embroiled in scandal involving illegitimate children, porn stars and crooks of all kinds, if he wr ere a normal, upstanding person such as Reagan, he might have time to take a stand on something as vitally important as our First Amendment. He is too distracted with Omoarosa’s tapes and hush money to deal with this. Shame on him and shame on all those misguided fools who supported him when we had numerous other serious candidates without this baggage, who know and believe in our Constitution. I didn’t vote for him. I am a constitutional conservative. I had nothing in common with this sleazy crook.
StellaSaidSo says
‘I had nothing in common with this sleazy crook.’
As a ‘sleazy crook’, President Trump does not come remotely close to the doyenne of sleazy crooks, Hillary Clinton, or to his fraudulent predecessor BathHouse Barry Obama.
It has indeed been a very long time since we had ‘a normal, upstanding person’ in the WH. At least Trump’s ‘scandals’ pre-date his Presidency, unlike Bill Clinton’s or JFK’s.
Derek G. says
You’re right, our President is not the most blameless of individuals, but why don’t we focus our angst on those who are doing the worse harm. Once they’re ousted, then you can work your way up the ladder and attack those who aren’t as squeaky clean as you’d like them to be. Don’t play into their hands. They want you to focus your angst on Trump and his flaws while they commit far greater atrocities.
gravenimage says
I have my issues with Donald Trump–but Hillary Clinton still would have been much worse, especially when it comes to the threat of Islam.
Alec MacColl says
This good news has come before my own snail mail donations to Jihad Watch and FPM could possibly have gotten there.
The incident is not yet over, AND the incident is instructive. There are bankers and money handlers out there who desperately want to police how others spend their money, without regard to legalities. I wonder if THEY hope to see a cashless society in our future.
Every police and sheriffs department in the country tries to weed OUT those officers who like to make up laws to then enforce as they see fit. Could it be that many of our financials are seeking out like personalities to those who the police would spit out?
I suspect that the social justice warriers who hate the police would LOVE to BE the police, or at least to be able to give orders to the police.
StellaSaidSo says
Good news!
But this won’t be the last time they try.
The Soros pockets are being replenished as we speak, by the players whose pockets are bottomless.
carpediadem says
Soros is but one player in this war.
Baucent says
I would think some sort of defamation suit could be filed against the SPLC even a class action against them for peddling lies, defamation and slanderous accusations.
jule says
I have also found Jihad Watch and Gatestone to be very professional, intellectual, full of clear ‘critical thinking’ and cannot understand the why of the badmouthing. They used to say…don’t make the Muslims mad because we need them to rt on people or don’t make MidEast Muslims mad because we need out Corporations, contractor their for the profits and mines and whatever else we can exploit. Media cannot function with donors with bias.Still I don’t get it. Same as i do’t get how whitesupremacists, KKKlan, Evengelicals, nazigroups cannot see how they RuIN our chances to remove Islam. Christians for Israel are WONDERFUL. EMET (Jewish group) is going strong in Canada. Let them think what they want but KEEP QUIET UNTIL WE REMOVE ISLAM FOR GOSH SAKES. We have no chance with their protests and clamor in blogs and websites. Look what just happened in Sweden! All the Nazitroops caused a ruckus that good Swedes condemned (of course). Doesn’t any one see what i mean?
jule says
I wonder what would happen if we gave a community class on Spencers book? Would he let us? Would protesters disrupt. Would people come? I want to give a class. What do others thin.
StellaSaidSo says
I doubt that Robert would have any objection to anyone promoting his excellent book. How safe from interference you might be in conducting a public event, however, (I presume you are thinking of a local library, for example, as a venue?) probably depends on where you are. Maybe you could start with an informal ‘Book Club’ gathering in your own home of people you know and trust, and encourage them to help spread the word.
DebbieK says
Thank you, Lisa. I used your letter as a guide:
I understand that PATREON has refused to work with Jihad Watch. I’m opposed to businesses performing this kind of censorship. I choose; you do not choose for me.
I read Jihad Watch online regularly. I have heard Robert Spencer speak and have not once heard a lie, a threat or a call for violence. He reports on important events and explains concepts that are seldom (if ever) covered by other sources.
I appreciate the service you provide. However, if your organization continues to silence selected voices, I will not use your service. Please re-instate Jihad Watch immediately.
el Cid 2 says
Just in time – I was about to stop using Visa and Mastercard.
Re: President Trump – as someone said – “he may be a SOB, but he is our SOB”.
Perhaps our last best chance to MAGA.
el Cid 2 says
Just in time – I was about to stop using Mastercard or Visa.
Re: President Trump – as someone said – “He may be a SOB, but he is OUR SOB”.
He might just be our last best chance to MAGA.
Frank Anderson says
E.C.2, I suggest no matter how great anyone else may be each one of us is our own last best chance. “It’s not over until I win!” (unknown)
granddaddy says
Good for you! It’s just unbelievable what these people will stoop to.
Investigate Gov Corruption Now says
I wouldn’t hold my breath. I remember when FakeBook censored Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller within a few hours. This is just a small victory in a long battle.