If Said Khecharem were a non-Muslim saying that Hizb ut-Tahrir wanted to do this, he would be accused of “Islamophobia” and “bigotry.” But no one will take any particular notice of this.
“Tunisian Hizb ut-Tahrir Member Said Khecharem Calls to Conquer America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy, after Elimination of Israel,” MEMRI, May 19, 2018:
Said Khecharem, a member of Hizb ut-Tahrir in Tunisia, said that restoring the rule of the Muslims worldwide “requires the conquest of America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy,” and other infidel lands. Khecharem, who was speaking at the International Caliphate Conference, held in Tunisia, said that this would happen “after the elimination of the filthy Jewish entity, and after liberation of the lands that are being directly colonized, like Kashmir and others.” The conference was posted on the YouTube channel of Hizb ut-Tahrir Tunisia on May 19, 2018.
The following is an excerpt:
Said Khecharem: After the laws of Allah were abandoned, and the heretic regimes were imposed on the Muslims, the most important thing to do is to restore the rule of the Muslims, through the Quran and the Sunna, in order to renew Islamic life and to deliver the Islamic message to the world. My brothers, the implication of this today should be the establishment of an Islamic state over all the lands of the Muslims. This state will unite the lands, instate Islamic law, and will renew the spreading of the message of Muhammad to the world. This requires… Just look how high we aim: This requires the conquest of America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy – Rome and other infidel lands will be conquered, Allah willing.
Man in Crowd: Say: “Allah Akbar!”
Crowd: Allah Akbar!
Said Khecharem: This will happen, of course, after the elimination of the filthy Jewish entity, and after liberation of the lands under direct colonization, like Kashmir and others….
CogitoErgoSum says
Now, this man is definitely a racist. Wouldn’t you say, Mr. Trudeau? Oh wait! He forgot to mention Canada. Perhaps he thinks it’s already been conquered.
J D S says
I see some key words here in this man’s rhetorical speech..”after the elimination of Israel” I feel much safer now because the elimination of Israel will not happen…The Jews are still important to God even though they rejected and allowed Jesus to be killed at the hands of the Romans…….Did all the Jews wish Him to be killed? Of course not, just mainly their leaders. Still the Jews are sacred to God and anyone trying to destroy Israel would themselves be destroyed so if the take over of the west I’d to come after Israel is conquered won’t happen.
jule says
Rather than think about that it seems to me more important to help protect them in our country now and in Israel….just because.
jule says
This man has a facebook page. some of the translations of comments are sort of interesting. A FACEBOOK page!
gravenimage says
Muslim leader: Establishing an Islamic state “requires the conquest of America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy”
……………………
We are all “Rome”, as Muslims see it–and the conquest of “Rome” is a key part of Islamic aims. Islam has nothing itself; its only goals are the conquest and exploitation of unbelievers.
And so much for Islam in Tunisia being “moderate”.
esther says
VERY IMPORTANT—–the major point—-ISRAEL IS THE BULWARK AGAINST
MALIGNANT ISLAMIC IMPERIALISM which is not only “a reason” for Islamic
hatred thereof——but actually the ONLY REASON. The “rights of the palestinians”
is a crude muslim joke
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Maxime Bernier quits Conservative party” He says he will start a new federal party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MalzT-D4ZEE
Andy says
Maxime Bernier quits to launch new party, criticizes ‘morally corrupt’ Conservatives
I hope ALL CANADIANS VOTE for Maxime Bernier with his new party!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-maxime-bernier-quits-to-launch-new-party-criticizes-morally-corrupt/
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
You predicted and I predicted it. Isn’t this great Andy. He certainly has the same great timing as Trump. Here’s the Q&A given after the announcement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MShdEN6JmUA
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I know it is premature but I have emailed him asking him where I can buy a membership to this new party.
info@maximebernier.com
maxime.bernier@parl.gc.ca
Andy says
Thank you Flavius,
When I heard Maime Bernier talk about two weeks ago on the state of affairs in Canada, I got a jolt in my spirit, finally someone in Canada telling the truth.
The last time I felt that JOLT was when Donald J.Trump announced his candidacy for President of U.S.A. and we all know how that turned out.
I hope Canada will have the same turnout for Maime Bernier as Prime Minister, He is the right man at the right time for the job..
Andy says
__________
ISIL releases new audio purportedly of leader al-Baghdadi encouraging attacks in Canada
https://calgaryherald.com/news/canada/is-leader-releases-purported-audio-1st-in-almost-a-year/wcm/aaceb4cb-705c-4eef-a2e4-d06fc7d2feb5
gravenimage says
Thanks for that link, Andy.
Andy says
My pleasure GI.
Susan B says
No this is bad news. It almost seems the perfect plan for the globalist; split the conservatives and there will be no Canada in the future.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
That’s true. But isn’t it better to have some short term pain in order to turn this country around in the long term?
This new party will lend a voice to so many who are now being silenced. It will be a rally-point for true Conservatives. It will drag the pseudo-Conservative to behave slightly more Conservative.
And whose to say that this new party will not out perform the old Tories at the ballot box?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
GREAT NEWS:
What can I say? The best epithet for President Trump is “Godsent.” He truly lends credence to the title, “Leader of the Free World.”
“Donald Trump Tackles Murder, Expropriation of White Farmers in South Africa”
https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/22/donald-trump-tackles-murder-expropriation-of-white-farmers-in-south-africa/
Andy says
Your right Flavius with what you said, I totally agree with you. I think a lot of people are going to join with Maime Bernier and leave Scheer behind.
also,
Thank you for the article, It is good that President Trump is looking out for the white farmers of South Africa.
Andy says
Toronto Mayor Extremist Mosque Tour?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzTdtM6NeKo
Andy says
I know I have NEVER seen this deliberate destruction of our Judeo-Christian Civilization in my life and it makes me angry and sad to see once beautiful lands turned into SHITHOLES.
If we don’t get common sense leaders for our Judeo-Christian Civilization then we are all going to be going down the toilet bowl.
These so-called refugees and immigrants don’t give a shit about our Judeo-Christian Culture, Customs and Heritage, They don’t integrate and just want to replace us with there culture where they came from, In most cases Islamic.
If WE don’t All stand up now and fight for our Judeo-Christian Civilization then we know what the outcome for our lands will be.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
Andy says
Thank you, GI
Hugh Fitzgerald says
If America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy will be conquered, according to Said Khecharem, only after “the filthy Jewish entity” is destroyed, then the main thing that those five countries need do is keep Israel sufficiently strong so it can defeat any conceivable combination of its Muslim enemies. In fact, that is what Israel has been doing, in a sense, for 70 years — drawing Muslim fire onto itself. If Israel did not exist, and had not been so successful in defending itself, things would have been much worse for the world’s other Infidels.
It is fascinating that among the countries Said Khecharem does not mention is China, where imams are forced to dance in the streets, Qur’ans are confiscated, religious schools closed down, Muslim names forbidden, “religious” beards prohibited, and a million Uighurs are now in re-education camps, where they are forced learn just how bad Islam is. Cat got Said’s tongue, perhaps?
CogitoErgoSum says
You pick the low hanging fruit first. Once these Western countries fall, taking China will be much easier. (Perhaps the Chinese will build another wall and the Muslims will intimidate them into submission by calling them racists.)
Andy says
+1
FYI says
This is very difficult for moslems to understand…..
“allah” the islamic ,koranic, god of hate and violence is NOT the Biblical God of Moses and Jesus Christ.
“allah” who CURSES Jews and christians {koran 9:30} claims {in koran 3:3} to be the author of the Torah and the Gospel:But allah CONTRADICTS AND DENIES in his koran what was written down in both these books.
For example,The Gospel{which remember,allah claims to be the author of}reveals things like the Holy Spirit and the Crucifixion of Christ:koran 4:171 denies that such an aspect of God even exists and koran 4:157 denies Jesus was even crucified.allah claims to have written the Bible but his koran utterly contradicts and denies what was written in both books.
So obviously and evidently “allah” is NOT the Biblical God.
“allah” and his moslems may want to rule the world{..this is the difficult bit for moslems to get…}but if you are a Jew or christian and you subscribe to the Biblical version of God then you will understand that..
1.GOD already owns the world:”allah” may want the world but he can’t have it.
2 Israel’s future is explained in the Book of Joel chpt 3{read it}”allah” can’t have Israel either;in fact it is the ENEMIES of Israel that are earmarked to suffer God’s justice.
Remember that “allah” claims to be the author of the Bible:yet moslems don’t understand Biblical prophecies!
3 Christian prophecy given via Jesus Christ is revealed in the NT:That there would be a decline in Christianity BEFORE the apocalypse…..
4 Biblical prophecy will make little sense to atheists and no sense to moslems.
So who is “allah” who wants to rule the world that ALREADY belongs to the good God {of Moses,of Jesus}
allah is the “best of deceivers” k3:54
It’s not hard to figure out where is Good and where is Evil…
Agha Ali Arkhan says
This guy is a member of the monkey family. Actually, his behavior suggest his status lies somewhere lower in evolutionary terms. Chimpanzees may be flying airplanes while these guys will still be at the same evolutionary level. Sad.
Jaladhi says
Delusional Muslims have been dreaming of conquering the world for last 1400 years!! Nothing new here -They can keep dreaming forever. If one day all non-Muslims unite, Islam will disappear from earth!
jule says
It is not just a dream but something they are actively doing. Starting in one small area of Mecca/Medina and conquering the rest of the hijaz and Persia. Then conquering Iraq and Egypt on to Syria (you think Syrians were born Muslim but they were not) They conquered Israel for awhile and Phoenicia and into where Turkey is now. You think Turkey was always Muslim or Arab? Was definitely not. Afghanistan was Buddhist before. Myanmar was Buddhist-Hindu but they are working on it. Pakistan was part of India before 1947! Bangladesh was INDIA. Indonesia had some Muslim before but very few, being mostly Catholic/Buddhist/Hindu/Chinese. But Islam has been working on it. AFRICA was never Muslim Before. Malaysia is now an MD center as is IRELAND. Thailand and Philippines wish to get it out. It is not an African religion at all and look how much worse the situation is today. Just because Media does not keep us informed does not mean it is not happening. The psychological sickness of the way of life and beliefs’ of Islam is destroying humanity. People don’t really know what to do so pretend its ok, don’t make Muslim leaders mad (till Trudeau) and keep multinational corporations growing in mid East, pretending that is going to change them while they get profits. It is spreading so much and FINALLY the world over is beginning to suspect its a totally bad way of beliefs tucked in a few good ones and will finally take steps. Books like Spencers will be read. x-Muslims will be listened to. The straw that breaks the camels back is the bigotry and goal to kill, fight & replace Judaism as the only religion of Abraham which is in the Qur’an and did not start in 1948. This will finally be the death of Islam. We will say NO because its the right thing to do, even if hard.
kangi_yotaka says
No mention of Germany or Sweden?
I guess those are a fait accompli.
dan christensen says
“This requires the conquest of America, Britain, Russia, France, and Italy – Rome ”
Not necessary – most leaders of weak countries like that submit voluntarily to terrorists posing as victims.
R Russell says
Copy the link to every newspaper in the UK. Some might delete it, but they will have to watch it first. Let’s inform the people of the UK of what awaits them.
jule says
Thats a key. People must be informed. It is very important to stay away from the nazigroups or whitesupremacists however, because EVERYONE will stand against them no question. That is not the way to overcome this. The Achilles heel is the Ancient bigotry to Jews from 600AD to Today. It did not start in 1948 like my left thinks. in 700AD it was Muslim rulers in the region of Iraq that made Jews a yellow star on back and front. That is where Hitler got the idea. nazigroups or white supremacists who say Hitler had the right idea CRUSH our only chance to overcome. This must also be educated to people. Also people saying ‘God will save Israel’ (though it is their honest belief) ALSO CRUSHES OUR ABILITY TO OVERCOME ISLAM and causes us to be called “Islamophobes’. No Nazigroups, KKKlan or Supremacists help but destroy our chances. They are going to have to face the fact that only by defending the Jewish in USA & Israel will knock out the main goal of Islam. To Own Abraham and have one CULTURE, Islam. They are ANTI MULTICULTURAL. So we must be multicultural AMERICA but without groups bent on destruction. If it wants to destruct our Way, they must go. No KKKlan, no Nazigroups, no Islam, no Supremacists of any kind. I am sick that we could more easily get somewhere BUT these destructive groups will doom us for sure.
Ren says
“Establishing an Islamic state” is a muslim whishful thinking.
StellaSaidSo says
You need to look around you, Ren. They are working at ‘establishing an Islamic state’ in every Western outpost, and are coming dangerously close to achieving their goal in several countries as we speak. Already there are parts of OUR countries which are out of bounds to US, but not to them.
jule says
This is true.The achilles heal of Islam is there intense hatred of Jews as in the Qur’an. Their goal to replace Judaism and OWN Abraham is their weakest point. To cry out to protect Jewish people in USA, Canada, anywhere that is not already taken over by Islam (like France) must make the BIGGEST fuss about the persecution by Islam in 600AD-700AD (when they were the first to make Jews wear the yellow star, all the way through history.
Sweden and Norway are RUING IT WITH NAZIGROUPS. The world will never back NAZItypes. Don’t people get it? Naigroups Ruin our advance to remove Islam!
Walter Sieruk says
This hostile Muslim aggression had is inspiration from the Islamic “holy book,” the Qu ‘ran. Therefore jihad-minded Muslim are striving to conquer the Western nations for Islam. Either “by hook or by Crook” as in either by the violent militant jihad of the sly and insidious stealth jihad. Even by a combination of both of those types of jihad Therefore , The fiendish and heinous jihadists who base their violent and murderous behavior on the instruction of violence and killing that is found in the Koran Sura 2:191. 4:89; 5:33. 9:5, 111,123. 47:4. For a more full understanding of the actual nature of the Koran a person need to look back in time before the coming of Muhammad and then the Koran. Back to the First Century AD which was the time of early Christian church. For the Early Christian Church had and now in modern times the Christian church still has the Gospel of Christ, First Corinthians 15:1-4. Much later, in time, came Muhammad and he gave much information, that many believe to be divine, some of which is said to have been obtained from an angle from heaven. This information was written down on different objects and things Those written words in different objects was then compiled together and then eventually went into the composition of what is now called the Koran, As some also call it the Qur’an. The Koran is actually, that is in reality, another gospel, apart and greatly different from the Gospel of the Christian Church. Such a thing was predicted in the Bible. For the Bible does warn about those who will come and offer to people another gospel other than the one shown above, First Corinthians 15:1-4. For it is warned about any other “gospel” in the Bible. For it is written in the Bible “Though we or an angle from heaven preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preaches any other gospel unto you than ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8, 9. [K.J.V.] Therefore, the Koran is the result of the deception of a false prophet, Mathew 7:15., who may have come in contact with a fallen angle, a demon, So the imams and mullahs who preach it a truth to other are accused of and by God.
jule says
Yes, but if you base our attempt to stop Islam on another Religion (like Christianity) or base it on nazigroups, KKKlan or white Supremacists WE LOSE. The weak point of Islam is the persecution against Jews from 600Ad on. It did not start in 1948. That is just another excuse. 700AD the Muslims in the region of Iraq were the first to make Jews wear a yellow star, back and front. That is where Hitler got the idea. Islam’s goal is to REPLACE Judaism as the only people worthy to own ABRAHAM. That is why they want every site, all history and the Qur’an saying Allah cursed Jews for Islams Supremacy. Making a fuss over the persecution of Jewish people in usA, Canada, wherever is the Way we can overcome this disease. Not by anti multicultural, not by nazigroups (Islam fought with Hitler in the WWs, accept Saudi who helped Brits, France, Jews to expel the Ottoman.Arabs in general fought with Hitler and even had special schools made in Germany for Arab SS training. No Nazigroups will help the effort….only RUIN it. No White Supremacists can help but Ruin every chance. Look what is happening now in Sweden/Norway where Nazigroups are protesting like in Charlottesville. The whole World is against Nazis after the WWs. They ruin every attempt to move Islam out and only help entrench them more. Is that what they want? Islam will help them kill off Jews. Thats a LOSER movement. Only by loudly protecting Jewish people and showing Islams Persecution can we win.
Chatillon says
Is this guy giving a pep talk to “refugees” before they embark in boats taking them across the Mediterranean to Europe?
Imagine how many times sermons or just plain discussions between Mohammedans take the same turn as this iman’s talk does, not just in lands already invaded by this psycho-spiritual-ideological disease but now in the West!
Push-back is necessary to preserve out culture, beliefs and freedoms. But push-back is being checked by so-called “social justice warriors” in our midst, in our institutions and in the media. These choke points are well-financed, which is why efforts directed towards starting new, “pure” political parties will be susceptible to the same problems of bribery that likely suffuse our already compromised institutions.
The jihad violence is already under way. Backlash violence has been, thankfully, next to non-existent. But this is a grace extended to Muslims in the West and cannot be counted on to last forever. I am in no way advocating such developments but it doesn’t take much understanding of human nature to make a prediction that eventually a diffuse, spontaneous and violent push-back will arise in lands being invaded. And when it does, it is likely that the the civil and military institutions of the lands under attack will be turned against their own native populations. Indeed, they already seem disposed to do so.
Is there still hope? While there is life, there is hope. But there will be suffering. There is still time to mitigate much of that which can be seen coming down the pipe: By remaining uncowed by political correctness. By acquiring and using a well-informed voice. By committed involvement at the local political level. By support of –but guarded trust in– non-establishment political actors a la Trump, Farage, Le Pen, whatever.
And prayer. Change begins from within. We only get the government, clergy, society that we’re prepared to receive. It’s that innermost of fronts that the Enemy has made his greatest inroads. The rest could not have happened without such inner compromise. Pray. Repent. Repeat.
IHS
CogitoErgoSum says
Well said.
Brenda says
Said Sanity, a member of Freedom and Liberty for All in the world, said that restoring the rule of democracy worldwide “requires the conquest of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Egypt and Yemen,” and other Islamic lands. Sanity, who was speaking at the International of Political Incorrectness, held in the world, said that this would happen “after the elimination of the filthy Islamic entity, and after liberation of the lands that are being directly colonized, like Germany and other.” The conference wasn’t posted on the YouTube channel.
The following is an excerpt:
Said Sanity: After the laws of God were abandoned, and the heretic regimes were imposed on free people, the most important thing to do is to restore the rule of democracy, through the Bible and constitutional laws, in order to renew freedom and liberty and to deliver the democratic message to the world. My brothers, the implication of this today should be the establishment of a democratic state over all the lands of Islam. This state will unite the lands, instate democratic law, and will renew the spreading of the message of freedom and liberty to the world. This requires…Just look how high we aim: This requires the conquest of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Egypt and Yemen – Tehran and other Islamic lands will be conquered, God willing.
Person in Crowd: Say: “God willing!”
Crowd: God willing!
Said Sanity: This will happen, of course, after the elimination of the filthy Islamic entity, and after liberation of the lands under direct colonization, like Germany and others…
Jayell says
Didn’t Hitler talk about establishing a 1,000 year worldwide Third Reich?
lebel says
“If Said Khecharem were a non-Muslim saying that Hizb ut-Tahrir wanted to do this, he would be accused of “Islamophobia” and “bigotry.” ”
No, I think people get accused of bigotry if they say something like “All Muslims want to kill us and the ones that say they don’t are practicing taqqiya”
StellaSaidSo says
Muslims are required to accept that the Koran is the ‘word of God’, which must be observed faithfully in every detail.
This means believing all the Koranic injunctions about killing infidels.
A Muslim who says that it is not OK to kill infidels is therefore in violation of his faith (and is therefore liable to punishment as an apostate), or he is practising taqqiya.
Therefore, all Muslims who deny that they want to kill infidels are, according to the Koran, either practising taqqiya, or they are apostates.
Which one are you, lebel?
CogitoErgoSum says
Lebel, I’d say there are other reasons all Muslims aren’t out to kill infidels. Many just don’t pay much attention to the Quran and others don’t want to go to prison or be killed themselves if they go all out jihadist. For them being Muslim is about racial identify and not so much about religion.
But why is it that the Muslims who are the most aggressive are the ones who are most familiar with the verses of the Quran? If they are the ones who are wrong, why are they wrong? The jihadist interpretation of the Quran seems like the correct one to me. In your opinion what writer would you recommend to an infidel wanting to learn what the Quran is really saying to Muhammad? I ask because looking into the hadiths and Muhammad’s biography for an understanding of what Muhammad had to say about it all in his own words and deeds isn’t making me a big fan of his. He is supposedly the guy to emulate but, come on, he didn’t believe in giving an infidel a break unless there was something in it for him … like more time to come up with a better plan at beating the infidel into submission. I think that’s the part of his character being emulated by the peaceful Muslims today. When the time comes and circumstances change so they have the advantage, more and more of them will emulate the other (violent) side of Muhammad’s character. The violent ones today are the precursors of what’s to come as their numbers grow. History tells me that. Islam is about the submission of EVERYBODY to Allah … one way or another. It always has been and always will be.
lebel says
“Lebel, I’d say there are other reasons all Muslims aren’t out to kill infidels. Many just don’t pay much attention to the Quran and others don’t want to go to prison or be killed themselves if they go all out jihadist. For them being Muslim is about racial identify and not so much about religion.”
Interesting. What I would say is that most Muslims tend to see the Quran and traditions as a whole. They also contextualize. So that means a verse like “kill them wherever you find them” is about a specific time and place and they would not focus exclusively on this day in and day out. Of course there are Muslims who don’t think like that at all but they are in the minority. Evidence- ISIS membership compared to overall number of Muslims worldwide. Also I would say that they tend to cherry pick and focus on the more positive aspects…like every other religion. So for example a Muslim might really like the hadith about a Muslim being punished by god for being cruel to an animal and he’ll quote that and focus on that. He won’t focus on the other hadith that calls on Muslims to kill all the black dogs. Finally, Muslims are not just about Islam. They are complex human creatures like you and me and they think about all kinds of things throughout the day. We reduce Muslims to Islam but it’s much more complicated than that. So a Kurd and an Arab are both Muslims but there are a number of other motivations and influences are work within each.
CogitoErgoSum says
Lebel, no, I don’t think being Muslim is all about Islam (or Submission in the English language). It’s also about race. If I criticize Submission I am accused of being a racist and a bigot. If someone attacks my religion (Catholicism) I don’t fire back at them with the epithet of racist or bigot. I see their criticism as being caused by a difference in ideas about theology. Why do Muslims see their religion as being intertwined with their race? I think it’s a projection of their own racism towards whites (whom they see as mostly Christians).
My concern is with Submission itself as it defines itself through its owns scriptures. To me that is where I find what Submission was and what it will always be if the scriptures are considered eternal and unchangeable. Also, I’m concerned about what Muhammad is reported (supposedly reliably) to have said and done regarding his own ideas of how Submission should be practiced. Yes, there is a difference between Islam and Muslims and there is going to be a difference in how Muslims act today and how they act in the near future when they become a larger segment of Western society. You can call me a bigot if you like, but I want to see my culture live long after I am gone … and such a great culture it is. I don’t see Muslims willingly assimilating into it …. ever. Their goal is to make me submit to the rules of their religion called Submission. I’m not going to do it … ever.
jule says
Not all Kurds are Muslim. Only the ones forced by the past. Kurdish is not indigenous Arab or Muslim.
jule says
Can you tell me Muslims will recognize other religions as Equals to Islam? Can you tell me every word of the Qur’an is NOT Islam?
I’ll wait but not too long.
Bernice says
Oh, great, they don’t know about Canada. Come on, everybody. It’s a little cold here, but it’s safe.
TWG says
ALL of those lands mentioned can and will be conquered if the moslems simply stay on the current program. Keep the liberals close by, control the lefist parties, continue to build their armies for jihad. And, MOST IMPORTANTLY, continue to control the teaching cirriculum in those places. Continue to plant your seeds of hatred, bigotry, racism, sexism…. into the minds of the little chllens and they will eagerly join your klan and fight your battles for islammunism.
The part I like best (the only part I like) is when these liberal useful idiots lose their worth to their moslem rulers. Especially the educators, homosexuals and feminazis.
And when there is nobody left to save them from what their masters have planned for them all along.