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Polish lawmaker: Saudis can build mosque in Warsaw “once they agree for Poland to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia”

Aug 30, 2018 12:19 pm By Robert Spencer

“It’s very simple, either we are equal, we are partners, we are the same human beings — or they feel they are better than others.”

Yes, that’s it, all right. But hardly anyone seems to grasp that point.

“Polish Lawmaker Backs Burqa Ban, No Saudi Mosques in Europe Until Poland Can Build Cathedral in Saudi Arabia,” by Jack Montgomery, Breitbart, August 28, 2018:

Polish lawmaker Dominik Tarczyński has waded into the European burqa debate, saying it should be banned partly for security reasons, and partly to make it clear to Islamic radicals that they cannot demand more rights in Europe than Europeans have in Saudi Arabia.

Mr Tarczyński, a member of Poland’s ruling Law and Justice Party, made waves in Britain after clashing with left-liberal journalist Cathy Newman over illegal immigration.

Speaking exclusively to Breitbart London shortly after ex-foreign secretary Boris Johnson’s run-in with the establishment over his criticism of the burqa, the Polish law graduate insisted that Islamic face veils “should be banned in the same way the Christian cross is banned in Saudi Arabia”.

He suggested the relationship between the West and the Islamic world was currently unbalanced, citing a mosque which Saudi Arabia’s theocratic regime wants to construct in the Polish capital of Warsaw as an example.

“We’re happy to have it once they agree for Poland to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia,” he said.

“It’s very simple, either we are equal, we are partners, we are the same human beings — or they feel they are better than others,” he declared.

He also said that the burqa — which has been used as a disguise by suicide bombers, child molesters, and armed robbers across the globe — should be banned for security reasons, “as it already is in many European countries”.

Mr Tarczyński pointed out that ordinary people often face restrictions on whether they can cover their faces — balaclavas, crash helmets, and masks are prohibited in a number of public areas in Britain, for example — and that it was wrong for religious fundamentalists to expect “more rights” than others.

“If you don’t like Christian Europe, go to Saudi Arabia, and deal with those who treat you in the way you expect,” he stated bluntly.

“We are equal as human beings; if you are expecting more from European Christians than European Christians can expect [in the Islamic world] — well, you have no right to expect more, basically. We are equal, if you are not happy with Europe, go to the Arab countries and stay there.”

Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, France, and Denmark, which have already passed face veil bans, all have far larger Muslim populations than Poland, which hosts only a small number of recent arrivals and a long-established Lipka Tatar community — described by Tarczyński as well-integrated, well-tolerated, and very much welcome….

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  1. Mary says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Good for him.

    • Andy says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm

      Wonderful, Patriots standing up for there country and Judeo-Christian Heritage! God bless ALL Patriots!

  2. PRCS says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    a) You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. b) You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and c) believe in Allah.

    Only one out of three is true.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 6:00 pm

      +1

  3. penelope says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    smart move, about time people started trying to get islam to be fair since it has always been their way or the highway, no more thankfully

    • Robert Weston says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 3:58 pm

      . . . their way or the sword.

  4. Alexander Newman says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    S A will never let Poland build a church or a cathedral there. If people got a chance to read the unexpurgated Gospels and the Apostolic Letters in their own language, they would leave Islam in droves. Most Islamic majority nations became Muslims under threat of force , and they are kept Muslims through disinformation and threat of death or loss of civil rights. All this prevails in SA today, and a Catholic cathedral in Riadh would burst the dike and they know it.

  5. Ren says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:48 pm

    Saudis can build mosque in Warsaw “once they agree for Poland to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia”.

    This shows the hypocrisy of the muslims.

    • John says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 5:55 pm

      Bucharest and Istanbul exchanged land for a mosque in Bucharest, and a church in Istanbul, even if there are no Romanians in Istanbul. Then the Romanians found out that it is illegal to build churches in Turkey anyway, and that that land was useless. The Turks want to build a huge mosque in Bucharest now.

      • Pavianus says

        Aug 31, 2018 at 12:52 am

        Will never happen. The people from Bucharest planted crosses and let the pigs waking on the property. As I understood it was a deal between the former Romanian PM and the Turkey President. Apatently some people in the guverment didn’t like the idea and made it public. .

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 6:33 pm

      Muslims are not really hypocrites, since the have have never believed in reciprocity. Instead, they are Islamic supremacists.

      • christianblood says

        Aug 30, 2018 at 6:50 pm

        gravenimage

        Well-said! Muslims are fanatical Islamic supremacists with absolutely NO sense of reciprocity or of understanding of the Golden Rule! Saudi Arabia and the oil-rich Gulf-states are building thousands of mosques and bankrolling tens of thousands of Wahhabi imams and quranic teachers across the West and the despicable, transgendered and spineless Westerners and their satanic governments cannot even build a single church in Saudi Arabia! Let alone demanding to build churches in Saudi Arabia, the satanic, pro-ISIS West encouraged and facilitated the spread of Wahhabism around the globe. More of this below:

        https://tribune.com.pk/story/1672777/3-wahhabism-spread-behest-west-cold-war-mohammed-bin-salman/

        • Merkexit says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 7:27 pm

          Imperialists

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 7:29 pm

          Note that I did not say that the West as “satanic” and “pro-ISIS”. In fact, it was principally the US that drove ISIS out of its caliphate.

        • christianblood says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 8:30 pm

          Graven

          You should be better than that! You know who created ISIS and you know who defeated ISIS in Syria and it is NOT the US! Far from it! Listen to your own US ex-congressman addressing this:

          https://www.worldmilitarynews.com/2018/06/19/ex-congressman-us-didnt-defeat-terrorists-in-syria-russia-and-assad-did/

        • christianblood says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 8:32 pm

          gravenimage

          Concerning who created ISIS and who defeated it please click on the link below and see who is who in this:

          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dltk3ZxX0AIyaf6.jpg

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 9:20 pm

          I see that christianblood is once again claiming that it is the United States that is waging Jihad, which is ludicrous.

          And, unfortunately, Russia is not just allowing Mosques to be built, but Putin is there for the grand opening in Moscow. This from a few years ago was Europe’s largest Mosque.

          But right now, an even larger Mosque is going up in the Crimea:

          “Europe’s largest mosque to be built in Crimea”

          http://www.pravdareport.com/news/society/stories/23-01-2018/139783-crimea_mosque-0/

          And no–this isn’t some site that is anti-Russian–it is Pravda itself.

          From the article:

          “The mosque is scheduled to open on April 21, 2019 to coincide with the fifth anniversary of Putin’s decree on the rehabilitation of the repressed Crimean peoples.”

          I don’t want to see supremacist Mosques go up anywhere in Dar-al-Harb–not in the West, and not in Russia. We can *all* take a lesson from Poland.

        • christianblood says

          Aug 30, 2018 at 10:06 pm

          gravenimage

          You better grow up and stop spreading childish and useless propaganda and get on with reality! The reality is, as we speak, we are on the brink of the WW3 because US wont’ allow the defeat of its Al-Qaeda proxies in Idlib Syria and Russia has been warning about this danger for the past week or so. See the latest warning from the Russian F.M. today on the link below or just google the words to see it in many other places:

          https://www.rt.com/news/437256-lavrov-warning-syria-west/

        • gravenimage says

          Aug 31, 2018 at 12:46 am

          Everything I said was accurate–notice that christianblood was unable to point to anything I had supposedly gotten wrong.

          As for the rest, christianblood has posted things like this before in the last few days–that if the United States voices any objections to Assad targeting civilians with chemical weapons that Russia is going to ‘start WWIII’.

        • christianblood says

          Aug 31, 2018 at 5:03 am

          gravenimage

          “Evil Assad targeting his own people with chemicals” is a cover story, the real US intention is to stop the impending defeat of US Al-Qaeda proxies in Idlib. Remember Saddam’s false WMDs which was used by the US to attack Iraq? The same thing here, but far worse now but there are thousands of Russian troops in Syria legally, supporting the Assad government to defeat the terrorists. The US knows that its illegal military bases in Syria where it hosts and trains various Syrian rebels most of whom are jihadists will be next after Idlib is liberated so it wants to do anything possible to delay or stop the Syrian army liberating Idlib from the terrorists! There is no bigger outrage that the monstrous US will protect, and is even willing to start a nuclear showdown with Russia to prevent the defeat of the very people who attacked the US on 9/11 killing three thousand Americans! That is the type of people you are trying to defend Graven and this is outrageously immoral! Don’t believe what I say, Go, be objective and do your own research, Graven and you will know the truth the truth will set you free!

        • gravenimage says

          Sep 3, 2018 at 3:18 am

          The only one talking about a “nuclear showdown” is christianblood.

  6. David Hayden says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 12:51 pm

    To the Polish lawmaker: Yes!

    • katherine says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 5:42 pm

      What a relief indeed to hear a European lawmaker being so logical and honest on inter-religious equality. He has cut through the usual deceit and obfuscation surrounding cultural norms jointly endorsed by Islamists and Eurocrats.

      The question was indeed so simple – Are We Equal ?

      Dominik just re-defined Straight Clear Thinking on Islamic issues.

      • David M says

        Aug 30, 2018 at 9:05 pm

        I love the comments the Eastern European politicians are making, leftists won’t like it because it’s all true.

      • le mouron rouge says

        Aug 30, 2018 at 9:12 pm

        katherine,

        I agree.

        Thank you for the post.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 7:31 pm

      +1

  7. libertyORdeath says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    What a shockingly reasonable request, I’m absolutely thrilled that someone in government finally stated the obvious fact that all the equality, humanitarianism, and diversity flow in only one direction.
    We need more of those that actually determine policy to understand this simple fact in order to have any chance of stopping the cultural suicide that is in full swing in Europe and is spreading exponentially in North America.

    Non-muslims are not even allowed in mecca yet the west is not only allowing, but encouraging, the construction of thousands of mosques where salafis and wahhabis can indoctrinate the next generations that they hope will finally bring the pesky western democracies under the rule of a global caliphate.

    Now i must admit that I am in full support of a reasonable number of mosques to be built in areas where there is enough muslims to justify it…just as i would support any PEACEFUL and NON SEDITIOUS place of worship for any faith. The issue with the construction of all these new and unnecessary mosques is the reason why they are being or have been built. They are not simply houses of worship but also immensely important places where propaganda and supremacism are drilled into the congregation’s head EVERY SINGLE DAY.

    They are the places where terrorist attacks are almost always conceived and planned and also encouraged by the revered imams who influence the views of the ummah in ways that most of the west simply cannot understand.

    There are those in the west who are barred from practicing certain aspects of their faith due to laws such as those who use psychedelic substances like ayahuasca or peyote despite it not having any effect on the outside world. Why then is it not alright to restrict the practice of those who seek to cause us harm?

    • Geoffrey Britain says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 7:06 pm

      Those that set policy want to see Europe’s national and cultural suicide… they’re doing all they can to make it happen.

  8. Spencer says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:25 pm

    Muslims clearly consider themselves “more equal” than others Animal Farm style.
    He is brilliantly pointing out what we all know as correct.
    I pray that he addresses Women’s Rights next since msm won’t.
    Bravo Poland

  9. Wellington says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    Warmed my heart to read this. EVERY Western country should proffer the same quid pro quo (but this won’t happen as long as subservient dhimmis like May, Macron and Merkel are in charge). Long live a courageous Poland.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 7:49 pm

      Hear, hear, Wellington!

    • le mouron rouge says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 9:13 pm

      Wellington,

      As usual, well said!

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Aug 31, 2018 at 4:25 am

      ‘…subservient dhimmis like May, Macron, and Merkel…’

      May, Macron and Merkel are committed globalists. They know exactly what they are doing.

  10. Bodega says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Beautifully put. And absolutely appropriate. My comment is: “That’ll be the day.”

    We have far too many mosques in the US. Even Indiana, PA has a mosque though they don’t advertise it in any way shape or form.. The soft sell is on big time here and nobody listens to those of us who say that what is being said in that mosque needs to be heard. And no one is welcome to attend “Mosque services” on a routine basis…no, nothing is equal if you are Muslim because if you are Muslim you are more than equal.

  11. BJoyce says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:43 pm

    Finally a politician with sense. God bless him. We here in the U.S, aren’t as smart, unfortunately. We allow the Muslims to tell us what to do. Take a lesson America!

    • le mouron rouge says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 9:15 pm

      BJoyce,

      Amen!

  12. gerard says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm

    This is why I love Poland!

  13. Garfield says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    This is GREAT! It totally exposes the situation and I hope the polish guy keeps pushing for this to be understood!!!!
    Warriors for freedom sometimes wear a suit and tie, don’t they!

  14. Norger says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    I’m an atheist and I love this. Basic common sense.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 9:05 pm

      +1

    • le mouron rouge says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 9:16 pm

      Norger,

      Refreshing isn’t it?

  15. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    Tarczyński’s counter makes perfect sense, it’s symmetrical, and it’s fair. Build the great mosque in Warsaw and the millions of Moslems living in Europe will be sure to visit. Build a great cathedral in Riyah and the….

    … wait a minute, there are virtually no Infidels in Saudi Arabia. Well they’re several thousand Infidel oil workers, but they’d never visit for fear of their lives, and job.

    Asymmetrical.

  16. Hari Singh says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:50 pm

    I believe Mussolini said the same thing.There’s an old Yiddish saying,”You can’t ride two horses with one ass.”Muslims cannot deny rights in the West they deny non-Muslims in their countries. The hypocrisy should be illluminated.
    This does not mean we should ban Islam in the West, as we hold for freeedom of religion, but recognize it is more of a political movment than a religion.
    From an Indian standpoint their is little wisdom in Islam, it does not make Muslims better people, they would be better practicing any other religion.It does not make the lives of their non-Muslim neighbors better, most live in fear of them.That Islam , the religious aspects, is the spearpoint for a political movement of conquest and enslavemnt. giving rights to your enslavers is daft-nut!

    • eduardo odraude says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 4:45 pm

      Until a majority of Muslim-majority nations permit freedom of religion, there should be a moratorium on Islamic immigration to non-Muslim lands.

      That wouldn’t just help preserve freedom for non-Muslims. It would also help supporters of freedom in the Islamic world.

      • StellaSaidSo says

        Aug 31, 2018 at 4:27 am

        +1

  17. satti says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 2:53 pm

    At the same time his party, Law and Justice, is letting Muslim immigrants in through every door imaginable. Previous time they were in government they let in tens of thousands Chechens (to spite Russia), now planning to bring thousands Uzbeks because the booming Polish economy needs cheap labour (2 millions of Ukrainians already here on work visas apparently is not enough). There is already one mosque financed by Saudi Arabia in Warsaw. Tarczyński is a hypocrite.

    • Wellington says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 6:38 pm

      Even assuming this man’s party is derelict where Muslim immigration is concerned, how is he in particular a hypocrite considering the “proposition” he put forth?

      Your turn, satti.

  18. pemba says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 3:02 pm

    Very good proposal, Poland keep it up.

  19. pemba says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 3:04 pm

    Very good proposal, Poland keep it up.

    Not only to build the Cathedral, but allow us to eat pork and drink wine in Saudi Arabia

  20. traci94 says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    I love this, too! Most of these mosques are funded by the Saudis, and I absolutely agree with this guy – you can build a mosque when we can build a cathedral (or church). They (Muslims) should be given no more privileges than the citizens of a country. They demand all these privileges and “respect” and then go around persecuting and killing people of other faiths, and they just don’t seem to be able to see the hypocrisy (or they just don’t give a flip). I hope this guy stands strong and others will get some of the courage or the “balls” that he has!!

    • MTMLA says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 2:09 am

      The Saudis have the politicians in their pocket books: Bush, the Clintons, Obama and others…who in turn give them a lot of power, respect and submission…

  21. 11B40 says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:01 pm

    Greetings:

    I seen Dominik on France24’s English-Language broadcasts more than several times and he invariably wipes the floor with his Islamophilic co-panelists.

  22. Flavius Claudius Iulianus says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:19 pm

    The Archdiocese of Mecca.

  23. Ragdoll says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:29 pm

    Oh, to hear a mainstream British politician talking like this!
    He makes a perfectly reasonable statement but would have the leftists in a froth-mouthed fury….

  24. jerry zavage says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:30 pm

    Rep. Dave Brat introduced legislation in 2014 that would not allow countries to build mosques in the US unless the building country provided for religious freedom in their own countries. Lost in committee. Maybe he will re-introduce the bill.

  25. James Lincoln says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    Dominik Tarczynski is absolutely brilliant Polish MP for the Law and Justice Party, which is currently the country’s ruling party! I have watched all of his “English-speaking” YouTube videos from the past couple of years. He is absolutely “spot-on” in his analysis of the Muslim migrant crisis. Because of him, I cannot bring myself to tell another Polish joke.

    Poland, along with the other members of the Visegrad group, remains a beacon of hope in a troubled Europe.

    Links to some great YouTube videos featuring Dominik Tarczynski:

    Talking to a liberal BBC journalist
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtRbwWRZhhs

    Asks EU why are we even discussing sharia law
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Mhhhe_kPI

    Conversation with Tommy Robinson

  26. Savvy Kafir says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:42 pm

    It’s so refreshing to see some common sense in government! — even if we have to look to Poland or Hungary to find it.

  27. jerry zavage says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:44 pm

    Western Civilization as it exists would not exist today had it not been for the Pole’s victory over the Islamic Ottoman empire on September 11, 1683, see the movie “Day of the Seige”. (As well as an earlier victory by Charles Martel near Paris) No freedom of speech, no pursuit of happiness, no democratic government…but we would have the evils of Sharia Law.

    • gravenimage says

      Aug 30, 2018 at 9:07 pm

      Yes.

  28. eduardo odraude says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:55 pm

    The PC folk will say that that Polish politician is a fascist or a racist or some other kind of demon, but in fact his kind of talk might actually benefit the people of the Islamic world, whereas the PC people, with their pandering and genuflecting to Islamic totalitarianism are just binding the Islamic chains all the tighter on Islamic populations.

  29. jerry zavage says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    Thank you Poland all the way from the Battle of Vienna to today’s population Jihad! Long live Poland.

  30. gravenimage says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 5:58 pm

    Polish lawmaker: Saudis can build mosque in Warsaw “once they agree for Poland to build a cathedral in Saudi Arabia”
    ………………..

    Hear, hear!

  31. Lydia Church says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 9:39 pm

    “Polish Lawmaker Backs Burqa Ban, No Saudi Mosques in Europe Until Poland Can Build Cathedral in Saudi Arabia” !

    YES! FINALLY! SOMEONE WITH BRAINS, CHARACTER, AND COURAGE ENOUGH TO COME UP WITH THE RIGHT POLICY!

    I SECOND THAT!!!

  32. camptaji says

    Aug 30, 2018 at 11:39 pm

    The teaching of the CornRan lack any reference to the “Golden Rule” POLSKA AKBAR!

  33. Demsci says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 12:21 am

    This goes to basic priority of loyalties of adherents of religions/ ideologies. It seems to me that PC leftists view citizenship of a country as prevailing over “membership of a religion/ ideology”.

    And indeed, it should be asked to Muslims in the Western Democratic Countries whether they are more loyal to the countries they live in (A) or to the religion they are member of (B).

    If A, then inside a country all citizens should be treated equally.
    But what if B is the predominant loyalty of Muslims? And for that matter for adherents of the other religions?

    then that juxtaposes Muslims to the rest of mankind, which can then be categorized as Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, miscellaneous or disinterested people.

    If we view mankind primarily divided in those categories, then it is so reasonable to demand reciprocity.

    Consider; A Muslim in a Western Democratic country, with all these other category religions/ ideologies, openly admitting his first and foremost loyalty is to Islam and not to his/ her country

    cannot demand better treatment of his religion in the countries of the other religions than that what the other religions get in the countries of his religion.

    It is reciprocity and equal rights for all religions in all countries or otherwise demanding that Muslims in Western Democratic Countries must be more loyal to country than to Islam.

    But if Muslims choose overwhelmingly for loyalty to Islam over country, then they should accept that adherents to other religions do the same and demand reciprocity, failing which the adherents of other religions can prohibit Islam as much in their countries as Muslims prohibit other religions in their countries.

    That’s why I admire Karczynski’s statements so much

  34. Demsci says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 12:41 am

    I realize that there are many things to be worked out if we divide mankind into adherents to various religions and want to determine which countries belong to which religion.

    But I consider that ideally the # 35 Western Democratic countries (AngloSaxon, European countries, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Israel) demand abovementioned reciprocity from the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation). Or negotiations about that.

    If Muslims are massively loyal to Islam over country, that means that under current circumstances they enjoy a massive unfair advantage over the other religions! Which affects all our futures very much.

  35. Robin Datta says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 12:53 am

    The cathedral not just in Saudi Arabia, but in Mecca. And restaurants in Mecca serving pork products and alcohol open to the entire public.

  36. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 3:58 am

    This polish Lawmaker is an idiot to the core. There are no sizeable mithraist christian population in Saudi Arabia, especially mecca and Medina. The verse in the Quran state”Innamal mushrikun Najisun fala yaqiribul masjid (The polytheists or Idol worshipers are filthy, they shall not come nearer to the holy mosque at mecca) “,referring to pagans of mecca who brought idols to kaaba after their ancestors Ishmael and Abraham that pagan practices have to end at this holy site. It was reported that prophet Isa performed Hajj. But,since mithraist christians mixed what Jesus actually taught with pagan doctrines like Godman and begotten son of God, according to this verse, they will not be allowed to worship at this holy site at mecca,they can worship in any part of mecca Medina not closer to kaaba. But there is no single Christian in mecca or Medina, they can be found in jeddah or Riyad as expatriate workers and diplomats. so, sharia never prohibits building of churches in Saudi Arabia except at Islamic holy sites.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Aug 31, 2018 at 4:10 am

      More hilarity from JW’s resident clown.

      ‘…but since mithraist Christians mixed what jesus taught with pagan doctrines…they will not be allowed to worship at this holy site at mecca (ie Kaaba)…’

      Are you trying to tell us, Ibrahim, that Mohammed did not ‘mix what Allah taught’ with ‘pagan doctrines’?

      Perhaps you are unaware that much of the vile Koran is of pagan origin. The Kaaba itself is of pagan origin. As is the hajj. As, indeed, is Allah himself.

      Keep the laughs coming, lad! Who said mooslums don’t have a sense of humour, eh?

    • Demsci says

      Aug 31, 2018 at 5:55 am

      So you say that if need be Saudi Arabia would allow a church, an equivalent “place of worship” in its capital Riyadh, when Poland would allow a Mosque in its capital Warsaw. From the article and you I gather that in Poland there are few Muslims and in Saudi Arabia there are few Christians. But you think reciprocity is possible in this regard. I doubt it, but OK.

      But there is so much more that needs attention in regard to religion-reciprocity. We want equal rights for all religions, which does exist in the West, but not in many Islamic countries.

      What about the freedom of religion, so also of conversion? In the West, in Poland, Christians are allowed to convert to Islam, but in many Islamic countries it is forbidden for Muslims to convert to Christianity. The same no doubt goes for Atheists, Jews etc. Outrageously SKEWED, not reciprocital.

      If there is a battle for reciprocity, equal treatment of all religions in all countries, it is only yet beginning.

    • MTMLA says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 2:27 am

      Muslimes venerate a big rock, the Kaaba. Sounds like idol worship . Allah is the moon god of the pagans before Mohammad stole it from them, as a good muslim with sticky fingers. What a fraud!!!

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 4:16 am

      The nasty ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:

      This polish Lawmaker is an idiot to the core. There are no sizeable mithraist (sic) christian population in Saudi Arabia, especially mecca and Medina.
      …………………………..

      Actually, there are large numbers of Christians working in Saudi Arabia, often under appalling conditions. They are not allowed to openly practice their faith, and that includes not being able to build churches or have crosses or bibles.

      As for there being no Christians–or any other Infidels–in Mecca, this is because oppressive Saudi law criminalizes it:

      https://themuslimissue.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/muslimsonlymecca-sign.jpg

      There are actually check points in all the major roads where they check driver’s IDs.

      The same is true of Medina.

      And non-Muslims who had made it in in the past caught in Mecca have been murdered by pious Muslim mobs.

      More:

      The verse in the Quran state”Innamal mushrikun Najisun fala yaqiribul masjid (The polytheists or Idol worshipers are filthy, they shall not come nearer to the holy mosque at mecca) “,referring to pagans of mecca who brought idols to kaaba after their ancestors Ishmael and Abraham that pagan practices have to end at this holy site. It was reported that prophet Isa performed Hajj. But,since mithraist (sic) christians mixed what Jesus actually taught with pagan doctrines like Godman and begotten son of God, according to this verse, they will not be allowed to worship at this holy site at mecca,they can worship in any part of mecca Medina not closer to kaaba. But there is no single Christian in mecca or Medina,
      …………………………..

      In other words, Ibrahim itace muhammed is confirming that Muslims consider Christians and other Infidels to be second class citizens with no equal rights.

      More:

      they can be found in jeddah or Riyad as expatriate workers and diplomats. so, sharia never prohibits building of churches in Saudi Arabia except at Islamic holy sites.
      …………………………..

      This last, of course, is *utterly false*. There are *no* churches in Saudi Arabia:

      “Currently there are no official churches in Saudi Arabia of any Christian denomination. The small number of Saudi Arabian Christians meet in internet chat rooms and private meetings.”

      –International Religious Freedom Report 2008 – Saudi Arabia

      https://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/irf/2008/108492.htm

      Why would Ibrahim itace muhammed think we don’t know this?

      And the reason there are no churches is because one of the last thing the “Prophet” Muhammed is reported to have said is that Muslims should drive all Jews and Christians out of Arabia.

      No Christian is allowed to become a citizen of Saudi Arabia, and Israeli Jews are actually barred from the country.

  37. Mark says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 4:01 am

    My mobile internet provider in the UK (3) has blocked this website. I managed to view the article nonetheless through a VPN connection.

    FYI.

    • MTMLA says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 2:29 am

      Example of submission to islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 4:33 am

      Very disturbing.

  38. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 5:22 am

    Stellasaidso, you must be an ignorant liar.The kaaba was there since the time of Adam and eve.The Flood washed it away during Noah.Allah ordered Abraham and his son Ishmael to rebuild it as symbol of monotheism. After Ismael, the satan deceived meccans to erect idols and placed them there foolishly worshiping them as intermediaries to link them with Allah. Then Allah sent Prophet Muhammad to cleanse the holy sites from pagan practices inspired by the satan In the same way the satan inspired the infusion of pagan doctrines into what Jesus actually taught and practiced, that rendered mithraist christianity paganic worshiping the satan you call Holy Spirit. Get the information correct, Islam is not a continuation of pagan practices, but restoration of pure monotheism taught by Abraham and his son Ishmael distorted by later meccans Who were the descendants of Ismael.

    • StellaSaidSo says

      Aug 31, 2018 at 6:36 am

      Not only are you a liar, Ibrahim, but you are a joke. Anyone who believes the derivative nonsense cobbled together by the cynical and deluded authors of the ‘Koran’ is a fool. Clearly, you know nothing about the origins of the ‘Koran’, or, indeed, of the history of the region from whence it came. Go do some homework, lad, and stop believing the b/s the mullahs tell you.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 4:36 am

      Ibrahim itace muhammed is just spouting ahistorical claptrap.

  39. Seagull says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 6:51 am

    I sent the link to this article to someone in UK (I am currently in Poland).
    He wrote back saying that he he was unable to open it on his smartphone as his
    mobile internet provider: THREE, blocked it.
    Is this really possible? Full scale censorship?
    My friend is smart, so he managed to get around it and read the article.
    I also sent it to a friend in Malaysia (which is a moslem country) lets see what happens.

    • katherine says

      Aug 31, 2018 at 6:33 pm

      Interesting. Let’s see if their Punjabi Minister of Media and Communications, Gobind Singh is doing his job properly. If the message doesn’t get through, give the Minister an FU and remind him to remove the censorship – if any.

    • gravenimage says

      Sep 3, 2018 at 4:37 am

      I am hearing about more and more instances like this.

  40. Infomaniac says

    Aug 31, 2018 at 9:19 pm

    A spokesman for “moderate” Islam (appointed by the Australian government) once tried to convince me that non-Muslims can’t expect a church to be built in Saudi Arabia because it is a “holy” nation. “All of it”, he said.

    He likened the whole country to the Vatican, demanding to know, “How many mosques does Vatican City have?”

    Where do you start with that sort of logic…..? Duh!

    And to think, this man was touring the country at the government’s expense as an example of moderate Islam to dispel anti-Muslim prejudice.

  41. Karen says

    Sep 1, 2018 at 7:54 am

    Absolutely Brilliant! It’s refreshing to see someone stand up for their country’s safety,culture and ideals

  42. AD D says

    Sep 2, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    Well done! No more double standards and bullying! I’m loving Poland more and more each day!

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