“There is no humor in Islam” — Ayatollah Khomeini
No, Khomeini, you were wrong. Just look at this.
“‘Canada is the world’s worst oppressor of women’: Saudi Arabia’s bizarre propaganda campaign,” by Tristin Hopper, National Post, August 10, 2018 (thanks to Ken):
Within hours of Saudi Arabia expelling Canada’s ambassador, the country’s broadcasters and pro-government social media accounts ramped into high gear digging up dirt on its newest enemy.
A recurring theme of Saudi attacks against Canada is “those in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones,” an expression that is roughly the same in both English and Arabic.
For this argument to hold up, though, it has placed Saudi propagandists in the uncomfortable position of having to prove that Canada is a pariah state of oppression, death and misery.
Below, a quick summary on how they did.
Special thanks to Rev. Majed El Shafie, founder of the Toronto-based non-profit One Free World International, for helping with Arabic translation. We’ve written before about his work to rescue Yazidi refugees from Iraqi Kurdistan.…
Canada is one of the world’s worst oppressors of women
Of all the ways to dig up dirt on Canada, Saudi sources are inexplicably fixating on our treatment of women. Kuwaiti commentator Fahad Alshlimi claimed on Saudi TV this week that Canada has one of the world’s highest rates of oppression against women. “What about the mystery of 1000 murdered women in Canada?!” wrote one widely followed Riyadh-based Twitter account. Saudi social media accounts were Statistics Canada report on violence against women, calling it Canada’s “shame.” However, a deeper dive into that report would have revealed that it spends a lot of its time cataloguing things that Saudi Arabia does not even consider to be crimes. Domestic violence and spousal rape are not criminalized in Saudi Arabia, and Saudi women can be lashed for adultery if they are raped. Ironically, Saudi condemnations of Canada as a sexist backwater are happening simultaneously with Saudi criticism of Canadian foreign affairs minister Chrystia Freeland. Of course, female cabinet ministers like Freeland do not exist in Saudi Arabia. Unlike Saudi women, she is also legally allowed to make employment and travel decisions without the permission of a male guardian.
Andy says
All across the globe Patriots are standing up to fight for freedom! We need people who will tell the truth all across the world and stop this cult of diversity is our strength nonsense.
UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH! Be proud to be part of the country you are in! Continue to build it up and be part of what has already been built.
POLITICAL COURAGE: Maxime Bernier of Canada Pushes Back Against Justin Trudeau’s “Cult Of Diversity”
“Having people live among us who reject basic Western values such as freedom, equality, tolerance and openness doesn’t make us strong. People who refuse to integrate into our society and want to live apart in their ghetto don’t make our society strong.”
Trudeau’s extreme multiculturalism and cult of diversity will divide us into little tribes that have less and less in common, apart from their dependence on government in Ottawa. These tribes become political clienteles to be bought with taxpayers $ and special privileges.”
https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/08/12/political-courage-maxime-bernier-pushes-back-against-justin-trudeaus-cult-of-diversity/
Maxime Bernier: Trudeau is ‘playing politics’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwPaq5fI_zE
Canadians vote out Jihadi Justine Trudeau 2019!
luvmyctd said:
Write that cuck Scheer and DEMAND he fight for our CANADIAN values, for OUR CANADIAN identity and OUR CANADIAN culture. Either idiot cuck Scheer gets on board with the Populist movement raging across the World or he is finished. Write that prick DIRECTLY. You want his email address or can you figure out how to find it yourself? Takes 5 seconds … Canada was 96% white European in just 1971 .. REMIND HIM OF THIS FACT.
Canadians vote out Jihadi Justine Trudeau 2019!
Andy says
Strong Independent women – Yeah, right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68PtlZ5ObKc
jim hane says
Many Islamic nations have banned te burqa on security grounds. We should follow suit.
Renate says
The man in that video is right. They do creep you out when you see them covered from head to toe in a sheet.
Kay says
+1
All face masks, including burkas, should be banned in public for security reasons.
Andy says
Andrew Scheer please take notes on how a REAL LEADER should be!
Standing in solidarity with Maxime Bernier/ Doug Ford wants Trudeau to pay for illegals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgld6dfO_4g
Andy says
***On October 22, vote for the only candidate who is TOUGH ON CRIME & EASY ON TAXPAYERS***
FAITHFORTORONTO.CA
https://twitter.com/FaithGoldy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKCd_ba_AA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0p4qkLhhw0
Andy says
https://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1028800406535716864
Andy says
The LEFT’s beef with white people EXPLAINED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVruEq-Gupk
Rarely says
Andy.
In one breath you are against immigrants who don’t support basic Canadian values and then bemoan about immigrants who simply are not white Europeans (when you point out that in 1971 96% of Canadians were).
Do you know the meaning of “bigotry”? No? Look it up.
BTW. What’s your background.
Andy says
Look again at the comment Rarely who said it and direct the question to where it should be.
but, facts are facts and truth is truth my friend.
Andy says
I wanted to add Rarely that I believe in . E pluribus unum “Out of many, one”.
Rarely says
You’re right, my apologies. luvmyctd wrote the item and it would seem is against immigration that is not white European. I’d question the 96% figure because more than 10% of our population is native Canadian or Metis but that would be nitpicking.
Canada may be stronger or weaker because of our diversity but we are a diverse country nonetheless. There is a slight cultural difference between Canada and the States. The U.S. prides itself as being a “melting pot’ whereas Canada has celebrated diversity with just as much pride. For example, in Winnipeg a festival entitled “Folklorama” is currently being held which does exactly that. I won’t bore you with the details here as they are readily available on the net.
However, I agree very strongly that having people among us who reject the basic Western values poses a problem that must be addressed and better sooner than later. If they weren’t so violent and aggressive it wouldn’t matter much.
Ironically, luvmyctd may get his/her wish because, if things get much worse in Europe, we may see an influx of white European immigrants. However, if Trudeau is still Prime Minister these immigrants may be met by a muslim immigration officer.
Boy does God have a weird sense of humour!!!
Rarely says
Andy.
You may like the e pluribus Unum idea but at the rate we’re going you may expect something resembling homogeny in about 500 years (minimum). It’ll be interesting to see what the average Canadian will look like then. I suspect there won’t be many redheads so we’d better attract a bunch of Scots or Irish pretty soon.
Don’t worry though a lot can happen between now and then.
BTW My wife was Scots/Irish/English and a regular Campbell soup kid growing up so my kids are very fair with auburn hair. There were a lot of gingers and blondes in my family so I’m doing my part. LOL.
Andy says
touché my friend, point well made, by the way I have been to Winnipeg & I loved it!
As the license plate states “Friendly Manitoba” I met some great people and was invited to stay at a home with First Nations, Metis as well as Ukrainian folks. Everyone got along great for the most part. It was wonderful.
I haven’t experienced the “Folklorama” Rarely but looked it up on you-tube and it looks like a LOT OF FUN!!! Looks like you had a great time.
Take care, my friend
Rarely says
Thanks Andy.
Makes ethnic jokes a no no.
gravenimage says
Rarely, I know you have said that Infidels criticizing the Burqa is an “ethnic joke” and hence a no no. I’m afraid, as you know, that I cannot agree.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Rarely, bigotry has to do with *opinions* only, not race or ethnicity. You’re the one who needs to, “look it up.”
And, by the way, race/ethnicity does matter. If someone is going heap derogatory attributes/traits upon me because of my white skin colour then I would be a fool to continue to stand up and support/defend (fully exposed to attack) the Great Meritocracy (which I used to hold so dear). I have retreated to the safety of my own tribe.
What visible minorities have failed to understand is that when they play identity politics they are, little by little, destroying the one thing that serves them best: the Great Meritocracy. Fools.
Please note that MY comment IS anti-immigrant. What’s the benefit of opening one’s arms in welcome to people who will, in the end, turn against you by using identity politics to gain just a mere modicum of advantage?
Andy says
Both honest statements Flavius. & Gravenimage. everyone expressing an opinion and freedom of speech.
Andy says
Maxime Bernier would be a great Prime Minister of Canada
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnCAnk6QoWY
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Maxime Bernier … well I guess so. He’s the only one of the social conservatives who seems to have outlasted/survived the Conservative Party’s internal purge of social conservatives leadership contenders. Kellie Leitch is now out of politics and back into her medical practice. Pierre Lemieux unfortunately doesn’t hold a seat in the house, Brad Trost who did very well in the vote, has sued the Conservative Party. Troubles all around.
But Bernier seems to have the staying power and backing to keep at it, and I think that’s what is needed. Dimples keeps trying to swat him down and he just keeps getting back up.
An important factor in crushing the federal Liberals is Doug Ford’s new government. Like Trump, he has been going at light speed making changes. Canadians are taking note and will ask themselves, “maybe we need a similar change in Ottawa.”
Ford’s government even managed to embarrass that uber-socialist ideologue, Lisa Helps, the mayor of Victoria. The Ontario government offered to take the sculpture of John A. Macdonald that the city had removed.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ontario-offers-to-take-john-a-macdonald-statue-removed-in-victoria-1.4051015
Andy says
Fascists are coming for liberals next
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkfetK0Bqyc
Toronto Police & Media Party permit Antifa violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emD_7HaqOmM
Andy says
The best thing going for Canada, Doug Ford and …..
Maxime Bernier for PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA!!!
Unity is our strength …not Diversity!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZsuHTWb56Y
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Andy, in all honesty, I think it’s too late for Canada. The various “tribes” are all here and well entrenched. They are all vying for more influence in directing the country’s future direction. If you don’t believe this then take a look as some of the things that have happened. Let me remind you of the University of British Columbia professor who claimed that the best way to cure “White Privilege” in Canada was to make Canada a Chinese country. For someone to have the gall to make such a statement tells me that Vancouver and the West Coast are already well on their way. There have already been calls to add Mandarin and Punjabi to the list of the two official languages. I already see signs that the maple leaf has become an immigrant’s symbol rather than a part of the Canadian national flag; that Canadians of European descent are returning to the old Red Ensign or the Fleur de Lis. I have noticed the effect of the “Temporary Foreign Worker” program and the dropping of the language competency requirements for new Canadians (never mind landed immigrant!). These last few years the number of my interactions with people who can’t speak one of our two official languages has skyrocketed – and I don’t even live in a high-immigrant-population part of the country! A country like this can’t possibly hold together.
The list goes on and on. And when each “tribe’s” demands are met by an evermore virtue signalling government (let’s face it, Andrew Scheer is no better than Trudeau in this department), their appetites are whet to demand even more concessions.
History tells us that countries like this invariably fly apart. And often the consequences include civil strife and war. Examples abound: Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, Soviet Union, Austro-Hungarian Empire. While things are good, general affluence will keep us content and together. But as soon as things get tough, we will break apart.
I see Quebec going its own way. Perhaps Montreal will be declared an “international city.” English Canada, if it stays together, will probably become a protectorate of the United States.
In hindsight, it can be seen that the break up of the country started with Trudeau’s father who, in an attempt to glue together the English and French halves, created the doctrine of Canadian Multiculturalism. No going back because the ‘great unwashed’ of the North mindlessly and uncritically love this concept.
My advice is to buckle up your four-point harnesses and hold on. (Me, I’m staying really close to the US border – not hard to do in Canada.) Hopefully for me, the country will last the remainder of my days because it’s not going to be pretty.
Andy says
Flavius
I have always enjoyed reading your (as well as some other JW readers) comments and can say that yes I see the signs in our world for the destruction of what has made the our countries great.
Mainly our Judeo-Christian European Heritage.
but, do go down without a fight?
HELL NO!
I for one am not going to do it. I will go down fighting.
I do see signs of hope with Doug Ford and Maxime Bernier and I believe if Canada can get a leader like President Trump the ship can be turned around to go in the right direction.
Patriotism and Nationalism, Love of Country is RISING AROUND THE GLOBE!
Don’t lose hope my friend. Patriots all around the world have to stick together and fight back, get involved with rallies around your area to fight for our Judeo-Christian Heritage. All around the world it is happening, Be of good cheer and courage, Together we can defeat the leftie/liberal nutjobs who along with their Islamic allies are trying to take over society.
Cheers! Flavius, All the best to you and ALL PATRIOTS!
Statuesque Crusades
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qO9dP5uUUU
Jaladhi says
Ah, Saudis live in alternate reality, or alternate universe which has no semblance with real world!! Braindead!
James Lincoln says
I wish that were true, however, the world that the Saudis live in is all too real.
There is only one reality.
B. Marty says
OK, women can drive and vote in Canada. More thoughts later..
Kay says
Yep.
Mohammedans have perfected the practice of projection.
gravenimage says
+1
mike9a says
Just a small observation: No wonder those women are brain-washed and submissive, breathing through the letter box one gets only a fraction of oxygen required for healthy and normal functioning! They inhaling /reusing CO2!
Andy says
LOL,
Good point mike9a
Here is a letter box interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K9OV8Mmh-o
Andy says
20 Questions For Burka Wearers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I-C3cBgOn8
Westman says
Yes mike9a, it’s very unhealthy – Oxygen starvation, heatstroke, and diminished hearing. What would happen to a bird in a cage covered with black cloth in the mid-day sun? These days parents are arrested for leaving a child or animal in an automobile, yet, caging a woman in the sun is OK.
Do you ever wonder, in those Islamic polygamous homes, if the guy at night discovers it’s the wrong wife? Or, if all sleeping together, and breathing syncronizes, the partially closed bedroom door moves back and forth? And how it sounds when they all snore?
Susan B says
mike9a, Brainwashed, or threatened or both. Honor killings confirm the later.
Westman says
Surprising!
And to think all those celebrity women had recently promised emigration to Canada, in the event of Trump’s election to POTUS, when they could have Jannah in Saudi Arabia. How delighted conservatives would have been if they had been honest instead of acting, and, how incredibly delighted if the celebrity residence plans were changed to Saudi Arabia.
TWG says
Hardy Har Har!!!!
This is almost as “humorous” as when IRAN was chairing the UN Women’s Rights Council.
Insanely, Hilariously Stupid.
alex smythe says
TWG: Yep. it’s even more idiotic than when the North Korean government referred to Canada as “a failed state” a couple of years ago, in repsonse to some human rights’ criticisms from the Canadian government.
TWG says
The UN cabal has even labeled the U.S. with human rights violations and issues, and we pay the mass majority of their operating costs to pull this bull-shiite.. Talk about deplorable.
gravenimage says
I’d missed that one, Alex.
Geoffrey Britain says
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
Anyone who imagines that Saudi Arabia’s new ruler actually intends to reform Islam is deluded.
gravenimage says
Grimly true.
Wellington says
Proving once again that some of the best humor is unintentional humor.
gravenimage says
🙂
Terry Gain says
Great comment by Bernier, but the problem is not diversity or multiculturalism. It is Islam, which forbids diversity of thought and opinion. Here is my Facebook post.
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This is exactly right. We should only bring into Canada people who share our values. This will include people from all over the world but without the fatal defect. Sharia is completely antithetical to Canadian values. It is completely insane to expect people to leave their religion at the border when they enter Canada. Islam is supremacist and violent. It is a conquest ideology. Our elites could study Islamic doctrine or history or they could even take notice of what is happening in Europe. Instead they impose their Antifa ignorance upon us.
Rarely says
Sadly true. Very sadly.
Andy says
Maxime Bernier criticizes Liberals for ‘extreme multiculturalism’
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/maxime-bernier-extreme-multiculturalism-1.4783325
Hari Singh says
The true mistreater of Women is the prophet Muhammad who failed to reveal a revealation that could save women.Praise be to Allah.
It was narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) that women will form the majority of the people of Hell. It was narrated from ‘Imran ibn Husayn that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I looked into Paradise and I saw that the majority of its people were the poor. And I looked into Hell and I saw that the majority of its people are women.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhari, 3241; Muslim, 2737)
With regard to the reason for this, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) was asked about it and he explained the reason.
It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)
Rolf Wittwer says
It is known, that the Heatpole of our Planet is somewhere in the Middle-East Area, with some small changing tendencies.
How therefore people can survive over centuries under such climatic conditions, WITHOUT GETTING SOME BRAIN- and/or other MENTAL DAMAGE?
This fact explains many many more incredible things, that happened, but it is still taboo, to talk about it.
We sometimes should take this into consideration and acting with a certain understanding.
Just like a psychiatrist or a doctor!
Rarely says
So Europeans MUST be mentally superior because of climate? LOL. For your study you can test natives of the Las Vegas-Palm Springs-Phoenix triangle. They must have oodles of brain damage. Maybe they shouldn’t even be allowed the vote or to reproduce. Can’t argue against scientific fact.
Rolf Wittwer says
I do not compair Civilizations.
I think most people do have AC installed now. Even in those mentioned regions.
I refer to the past centuries and its results.
gravenimage says
Rolf, this is silly. Some of the first advances in civilization took place in the Near East, Middle East, and North Africa, as well as being the cradle of Judaism and Christianity.
Today, Israel is one of the most innovative nations in the world, and–as correctly noted by the otherwise usually appalling Rarely–there are a number of US states that have generally very hot weather, and they are hardly backwards places.
And much of Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have air conditioning now, due to unearned oil wealth–and yet, they are still stagnant barbaric hell holes.
This has far more to do with ideology than with weather.
Rarely says
gravenimage
“Usually” appalling?? I guess I’ll have to try harder. LOL
I know you find some of my posts uncomfortable but, although I may agree with a particular conclusion, I find it intellectually offensive when the posting relies on some weird conspiracy theory or religious (any religion) fundamentalist gobbly-gook. Then I just try to have a little fun exposing the fallacious reasoning. .
Have a great day..
gravenimage says
I try to give credit where it is due. If a poster says something reasonable at some point, I try to acknowledge it, as here.
And I don’t see where criticizing your saying that no Infidel should poke fun at the Burqa or–worse–that someone speaking out against forced child veiling should be bankrupted by the state involve either weird conspiracy theories or religious fundamentalism.
You were correct in this case, though–as I noted.
Renate says
It’s true that Canada does not have an exemplary track record when it comes to women’s human rights. There are such things as domestic violence in Canada. However, I think this is all down to Justin Trudeau being only too ready to delegate responsibilities so that he can go away on his next vacation. I recall the Liberals being so hesitant to speak up for William Sampson when he was imprisoned in Saudi Arabia on a false charge. They said they have to be diplomatic. Here, in this case, Trudeau gave Freeland carte blanche to shoot off her mouth about human rights in a tweet when, in fact, Raif and Samar Badawi are both Saudi citizens who presumably should have known the laws in their country. Chrystia Freeland had no business yapping at the Saudis about human rights over they way they choose to treat their own dissidents and if Trudeau wasn’t so busy planning his next vacation, he could have mentioned that to her before she made the tweet.
Terry Gain says
Renate
Stop criticizing Trudeau for the one good thing his government has done. I am sure he didn’t see it coming but the insane reaction of the Saudis is very welcome. Nothing but good can come from being attacked by Saudi Barbarians.
James Lincoln says
Terry is right.
The Saudis overreacted and overplayed their hand. They have unintentionally exposed themselves.
Rarely says
They (the Saudis) do look very silly. Who do they think they’re fooling? Notice how NONE of Canada’s allies have backed Canada up on this?
Renate says
Terry and James, I dis agree with you. I see it as Freeland meddling in Saudi domestic policy which she had no right to do. Also, if you notice, she singled out Saudi Arabia when there are many countries in the world that could be called out on human rights abuses.
The Crown Prince works tirelessly to modernize his nation, a formidable task, and Freeland’s tweet was a cheap shot.
Renate says
yeah, sorry, that should be *disagree*, not dis agree…typo.
Andy says
Don’t worry Renate,
I have done so many meskateks on JW because I never use the spell check, I just type it and send it, warts and all.
Renate says
Thanks Andy!
Andy says
Cheers Renate!
All The Best!
gravenimage says
Agreed, Terry.
And Renate, in the whole scheme of things Canada has an excellent track record on women’s rights.
Yes–there is nowhere where there is not room for improvement, but claiming that Canada is “the world’s worst oppressor of women” is obviously ludicrous. And this claim would be absurd if made, say, by Denmark or the United States–that it is being made by *Saudi Arabia* makes it all the more grotesque.
And the claim that we have no right to criticize the horrors of Shari’ah is simply ridiculous. If you believe that we have no right to say anything critical about the barbaism of Islam, what are you doing at Jihad Watch?
And this was not random, in any case, as you assert–it was Canadian Ambassador to Saudi Arabia Dennis Horak who criticized the imprisonment of women’s rights’ bloggers–including Raif Badawi, whose wife is a Canadian citizen.
It may come as news to you that nations are supposed to protect their citizens–so the claim that this was just an internal Saudi matter is quite mistaken–as is the idea that imprisoning human rights’ activists is part of “modernizing” Saudi Arabia.
Renate says
I didn’t say that imprisoning Raif Badawi or Samar Badawi was modernizing Saudi Arabia. I said that neither of those people is a Canadian citizen and Saudi Arabia has a right to determine its own domestic policies whether any other country likes their policies or not. I think the Crown Prince has a big job ahead of him to modernize the Kingdom and when he does, everything about it may still not meet with Western standards. Whether we like it or not, Saudi Arabia is going to do things their way, especially in their own country. That’s a given. It was folly for Freeland to single out Saudi Arabia and not call out the rest of the world’s human rights violators.
Rarely says
Showing displeasure may have been appropriate. The manner was a bit unusual. The Trudeau crowd is very, very capable of one thing — being stupid.
In meetings with Trump on NAFTA, Trudeau pressed for women’s rights to be built into any revised deal. Trump is probably still laughing. I wonder what Trudeau will trade away to get these rights included. The NAFTA negotiations will be like Bambi versus Godzilla.
gravenimage says
Renate, I don’t believe that Infidels should not be permitted from calling out the barbarism of Islam.
If you think they should be, perhaps you would enjoy Shari’ah law?
Renate says
It has absolutely nothing to do with Sharia law. One sovereign country under ordinary circumstances, does not meddle in the domestic policies of another sovereign country. This is International law. Why can’t anyone see that?
Giacomo Latta says
Let’s see if Trudeau and Freeland continue this game common to playgrounds. It will probably add lashes to Badawi’s back. The city of Sherbrooke QC, where his wife resides, has just replaced the 30-metre-high banners supporting Badawi with two 2-by-1 pieces of cardboard. It is also to be noted that in the daily demonstrations not a single member of the muslim or Arab communities can find the time to show up. Only Marxists can be seen.
gravenimage says
Of course Saudi Arabia is under Shari’ah law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_system_of_Saudi_Arabia
They openly admit this.
And the claim that international law prevents anyone from criticizing the policies of any nation is simply false.
Z says
Pot, kettle
gravenimage says
What the heck are you talking about? Whatever the problems with women’s rights in Canada, they are *clearly* nothing like those in Saudi Arabia. Are you claiming that Canadian women cannot leave their homes without a “Mehram” (owner), that they cannot get an education without permission, that they can be murdered without penalty by their fathers?
What absolute claptrap.
6woods says
“It’s true that Canada does not have an exemplary record when it comes to women’s human rights.”
How absolutely ludicrous! Please cite one instance where women are not considered equal in Canada under the LAW. The fact that we have domestic violence does not prove your claim. Rather, the fact that
domestic violence is illegal in Canada, whether perpetrated by men against women, or women against men, would negate your assertion.
In fact, I would contend that women who have been abused by their male partners are more readily believed than men who’ve been abused by women.
I’m a woman, born and raised in Canada. We do have our issues, especially with our current political leadership, but equality for women under the law is not one of them.
Renate says
You have the outlook of a Pollyanna. Canada is not a bastion for women’s rights.
Rarely says
Don’t tell my Mother that.
6woods says
Renate, please cite specific instances where women are not EQUAL UNDER THE LAW in Canada. Thank you.
Renate says
Gian Ghomeshi slapped a lot of women around for years and none of them would come forward to have charges laid against him, whether they were technically seen as equal under the law or not. It’s one thing to technically have laws on books. It’s another thing to not be afraid to use the laws.
Rarely says
Renate.
They ‘didn’t come forward???? So the gov’t has to be psychic??LOL
We have our share of rapists in Canada too. We haven’t figured out how to stop rapes, spousal abuse and boors like Ghomeshi before they act. If you have a solution we would love to hear it. In fact the world would give you a standing ovation — maybe even a Nobel prize or two. BTW if you have a solution for murder too please let me know.
HEY!!! What about this for a solution: make all women wear a face covering and dress like a mail box to deter rapists. Don’t let them have jobs or even out in public unescorted. In exchange they have to show you respect and give you sex on demand or you get to slap them around a bit.
How’s that sound?
To sum up: Don’t be an idiot.
Renate says
Rarely, not that your comment deserves a reply, but I was talking about the women, not the government. So, now anyone whose opinion you don’t like is an idiot? How totalitarian of you!
Kay says
Laws might not guarantee justice but they certainly point the way.
To insinuate that a law on the books makes no difference is simply false.
gravenimage says
So now Renate has to use the example of a violent Muslim to show how supposedly bad Canada is on women’s rights compared to Saudi Arabia? How ironic is this?
gravenimage says
Really, Renate? Which nations are–or have ever been–better? Surely you are not saying Saudi Arabia?
Renate says
I haven’t lived in every country, so I wouldn’t even hazard a guess as to which countries may be better. I do believe that Western democracies need to cease and desist measuring Saudi Arabia by Western standards. It is not a Western democracy and it never will be.
Rarely says
Renate.
Correct. Why bother criticizing very basic human rights violations especially when your silence will be taken as tacit approval. In fact why bother standing up for anything…ever.
“If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything”. Want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge? It’s on sale this week.
Renate says
Again, Rarely, why was Saudi Arabia the only country singled out for criticism? China, North Korea, and Trudeau’s pet, Iran, just to name a few are just as bad.
gravenimage says
Renate, you may not have lived in other countries, but surely you are not so uninformed about the rest of the world that you believe that Canada is no different from Saudi Arabia?
In fact, you prove that you don’t believe this in the very same post, when you note that Saudi Arabia does not live up to Western standards.
Your demand that we say nothing negative about the horrors of Islam–while being fine with condemning the West–is very disturbing.
I’d like to see the West take all barbaric states to task–but I will not condemn any condemnation of savagery. That you do does not speak well for you.
Renate says
Saudi Arabia is a sovereign nation. They are allowed to make their own laws even if people in the West don’t like those laws.
gravenimage says
And civilized people have every right to criticize such barbaric laws.
Renate says
When did Twitter become an acceptable avenue on which to air diplomatic grievances?
gravenimage says
Renate’s demand that Twitter censor criticism of Islamic barbarism–as they all too often do–is just disgusting.
Giacomo Latta says
Sweden is a bastion for women’s rights, as far as legal verbiage goes. But if I were a woman the last country in the world I would pick to live in is Sweden. What are they doing importing people who, due to religion, ethnicity, culture or whatever, then standing by as the native female population is getting raped daily even in the ”go” zones. Give me a safe zeitgeist anyday.
Renate says
I agree wholeheartedly.
ontheridge says
As a Canadian woman I have never felt oppressed.
Things I can and or have done in Canada that I couldn’t do in Saudi Arabia:
Lay on my deck in the sun completely naked.
Drive since I was 16 years old.
Walk into town wearing a strapless, short sundress.
Drink wine, when eating my ham sandwich, while in a pub, by myself.
Ride my horses on the side of a public road, wearing shorts, a tank top and my hair flowing down my back.
Go out to meet friends, at night, in a park, when I was 13 years old.
Choose who I want to marry, whatever his religion.
Go to a Christian church.
Wear a teeny weenie bikini while mowing the front lawn by the road.
Tell my husband what to do. And he does it.
Kiss and hug my husband out in public.
Drive with unrelated men, strangers, in my vehicle.
Plus much more….
Things as a woman I can’t do in Canada:
Say anything against or about Islam or Muslims, even if it is the truth, without facing arrest or even jail time. Our pretty boy, woman’s rights, feminist PM, has oppressed women in this way.
Arthur says
Brilliant post.
Kay says
Thanks ontheridge.
Good post!
gravenimage says
+1
Rarely says
It’s all too bizarre. The tweet was stupid in the first place and the Saudis response is even more stupid. Where do these leaders come from anyway? A pre-school for the mentally challenged?
gravenimage says
Well, Rarely has recently said that those who criticize forced veiling should be bankrupted, and now he is saying that anyone who condemns the imprisonment of human right’s activist bloggers is “stupid”. Good grief.
Rarely says
Not at all GI. There is diplomatic protocol to be followed that doesn’t include tweets by a junior cabinet minister.
See my earlier comments on this story.
Rarely says
gravenimage.
BTW I said that defamers should be called to account but it’s difficult to do so when they are an impoverished blogger who fancies himself as an “investigative reporter”. This time one got caught. Boo Hoo.
I’m against veiling AND defamation.
Have you read the court’s decision yet or are you still relying on the summary by another blogger?
gravenimage says
Rarely, criticizing forced veiling is *not* defamation.
And no–I don’t think that daring to speak out against the savagery of Islam should involve “getting caught”. Anyone should be able to criticize this, whether you consider them an investigative reporter or not.
Andy says
+1
Your right again, GI
gravenimage says
Thank you, Andy.
Rarely says
The Defamation decision was NOT that he had criticized “forced veiling”.
gravenimage says
Rarely, it is that he criticized a Muslimah who supported forced child veiling.
Guy Forester says
Any so called liberation of women and moves towards equality are simply window dressings. The truth is, the house of Saud sees themselves (and will publicly express this) as the defenders of Islam and the protectors of the Holy Places. The marriage, literally, of the Saudi and Wahabi clans is based upon the promotion and propagation of traditional Islam.
Never mind that most of Abdulaziz’s male progeny were gamblers, womanizers, and alcohol guzzlers when out of the country. Ask people that have lived/worked there for awhile and you get some interesting info. There are a number of Saudi’s that have been to the US and other Western countries for education and may be interested in some modernization. However, the only moves the Saudi clan will make are those intended to strengthen their hold on power.
Canada needs to wake up, smell the coffee, tea, or hot chocolate, and vote this clown JT and his cronies out ASAP.
Renate says
You can ask yourself why the great CBC star of Q, Iranian-born Gian Ghomeshi was allowed to slap so many women around for so long in Canada. Could it be that they saw him as too powerful to oppose?
You can ask yourself why the #METOO movement was dropping Canadian men in prominent positions like flies until it was revealed that the great feminist himself, Justin Trudeau, had groped a female reporter in the early 2000’s. Since then, #METOO has been pretty silent.
You can ask yourself why, of all the human rights abusers in the world, China, North Korea, Iran, etc., Chrystia Freeland had to single out Saudi Arabia for its domestic policy of dealing with its own dissidents.
Canada would do well to clean up its own backyard before complaining about the neighbours’.
Rarely says
Renate.
Canada has nothing to clean up. You can’t wrap up all the women up in cotton batting though muslims try (and then leave them to the mercy of their fathers, husbands, etc.). Our value system has evolved (with the help of modern household inventions and the birth control pill) to where women have complete freedom and mobility. Inevitably there will be risks to security but the freedom and self-determination created appear to be worth it. Today women don’t need to put up with abusive husbands or predatory employers. AND women are making contributions to society and reaching heights that would have seemed impossible in 1960. We are all still learning the new rules of engagement as they are evolving. BUT everything is being done that can be to protect their person and dignity as we see it today.
It may not be perfect yet but we’re learning.
The muslim countries are a millenia behind us and, at their rate of change, will catch up within the next century or ten. No harm in urging them along.
Renate says
Rarely, you’re wearing rose-coloured glasses to view women’s rights in Canada. Women still suffer in Canada.
About the Saudis, I don’t agree with you there either. The Saudis live under a theocracy. It is never going to be exactly like a democracy no matter how long you think it may take. They’re not even going in that direction. Rhetorical question: Why does the West think everyone else just has to catch up to them?
Susan B says
Renate, because islam is stuck in the 7th century. By claiming the laws and commands of the koran are direct form allah and cut in stone, islam has painted itself into the proverbial 7th corner. All those backward and barbaric rules and commands ensure that islam will always be 1500 years, and counting, behind civilization.
Renate says
Saudi Arabia being a sovereign nation, if they’re happy with that, who are we to demand they change?
Susan B says
God demands that you do not abuse women and girls. God demands that you not chop off heads.
Renate says
That may well be, but international law allows nations the freedom to govern themselves as they see fit.
Susan B says
But international human rights standards do demand that countries adhere to basic human rights. Why do you think there are boycotts etc. of certain countries. These standards are sadly not always applied but should be.
Renate says
So, human rights should be addressed through diplomatic channels possibly by the UN, (like that’s going to happen), not in off the cuff tweets. It’s like I mentioned to another commenter…you can have all the laws on the books you want, but if people are prevented in one way or another from using them, they are useless.
gravenimage says
The idea that we cannot be allowed to criticize Saudi Arabia because they are a sovereign nation is absurd.
Would she say we cannot say anything about the horrors in Iran, North Korea, Somalia, and China? Sovereign nations all.
What about Nazi Germany under Hitler, and the Soviet Union under Stalin? Both sovereign nations.
And if the Islamic State had been around long enough, they would have been recognized as a sovereign nation, as well. Would we then have to keep quiet about sex slavery and genocide there, as well?
Renate says
We won a war against Nazi Germany and a Cold War against the Soviet Union.
Why undiplomatically single out Saudi Arabia when there are so many other countries with deplorable human rights records, too?
gravenimage says
But according to Renate we should not so much as say anything negative about oppression–so had did we dare to have a cold war, let alone actually go to war?
Renate says
All I’m saying is that under international law, Saudi Arabia is allowed to have the government and laws they want to have. If that’s Sharia law, it’s o.k. under international law.
gravenimage says
how did we dare
Giacomo Latta says
How about, if we do not care for the way a foreign government is treating its citizens, that we do not do business with them instead of doing business with them while critiquing them? Why do we criticize them and then get our backs up when we receive the same treatment? Smells like a holier-than-thou attitude to me and we, supposedly, are countries that have a separation of church and state.
Renate says
You are absolutely right about that.
gravenimage says
I’m fine with our not doing business with Saudi Arabia.
Terry Gain says
Rarely says
Aug 14, 2018 at 10:29 am
Renate.
Didn’t you know that to a bigoted anti-Semite ANY lawyer who successfully defends a client IS Jewish — in this case not by religion but by training. Way to go Terry showing your true colours so clearly.
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Oh you creep. You rarely make any sense. According to you, my admiration for Jewish lawyers – and they have been leaders at The Bar out of proportion to their numbers – makes me an anti-Semite. Not just a cheap shot, but like you Rarely, truly stupid.
Renate says
Terry, perhaps you could tone down the rhetoric. Just because you disagree with someone’s comments, you don’t have to attack that person. You have called my comments “ludicrous” previously and now you are calling Rarely a “creep” and “truly stupid”. There is no need for this type of personal attack over opinions.
Rarely says
Terry.
I have reread your comments and see that you do seem to see Jewish lawyers as a breed apart. To categorize a lawyer as “Jewish” or “non-Jewish” and expecting that to indicate a special level of proficiency because of that can easily be viewed as stereotyping. Stereotyping a person based on ethnicity, race or religion is usually an indication of prejudice.
If I was in error in assuming you meant ill will I apologize.
Terry Gain says
Renate
Gomeshi was acquitted because he hired a brilliant Jewish lawyer who destroyed the credibility of Gomeshi’s accusers.
Do you think every accused man should be convicted regardless of the credibility of his accusers?
Your statements comparing Canada to Saudi Arabia are absurd and not even worthy of debate.
Renate says
Marie Henein was born in Cairo, Egypt to Lebanese Maronite parent. She isn’t Jewish.
I think you may be “reading into” what I wrote, rather than just reading what I wrote.
No. I do not think that every accused man should be convicted regardless of the credibility of his accusers. Also, I did not compare Canada to Saudi Arabia.
Apparently some people here think Canada is a land where we all just hold hands all day long and sing Kumbaya.
Terry Gain says
Renate
Thank you for correcting my mistake regarding Heinen’s religion. I remembered that she had been trained but the great Jewish lawyer Eddie Greenspan but forgot that she had attended St. Joseph’s High School.
It’s very good that you corrected my mistake, but it doesn’t make up for your claims that women in Canada are mistreated and don’t enjoy equal rights. Those claims are rubbish. And it is nonsense to use the Gomeshi case to support your fallacious claim.
Renate says
In that case, the next time I read about a human trafficking ring operating in Canada, I know all I have to do is remember that you said women in Canada are so well treated and that will make it all o.k. then.
gravenimage says
Human trafficking is *illegal* in Canada. Implying that human trafficking is practiced by the state is grotesquely false.
If you read about a human trafficking ring in Canada, it will be because it has been broken up.
Renate says
Human trafficking is illegal in Canada, but that doesn’t mean that human trafficking rings don’t exist in Canada. Canada isn’t quite the utopia that some would make it out to be and women do still suffer in Canada.
Rarely says
Renate.
Didn’t you know that to a bigoted anti-Semite ANY lawyer who successfully defends a client IS Jewish — in this case not by religion but by training. Way to go Terry showing your true colours so clearly.
Renate says
Thank you for mentioning that.
gravenimage says
Women suffer less in Canada than almost anywhere else in the world, and in the whole of history. To not acknowledge this is absurd.
The US still has problems, as well–but not recognizing that it is one of the countries with the highest level of women’s rights would be equally ridiculous.
Jack Holan says
When the Saudi Religious Police read this article and lacked the need comprehension of a Free Society; they likely dismissed it as the ravings of a Mentally ILL Person. Of course they snorted and grunted to express themselves like all savages
gravenimage says
Saudi Arabia claims that “Canada is the world’s worst oppressor of women”
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Good God–do these fools expect to be taken seriously? Canada is one of the freest and most equal nations in history.
More:
Saudi social media accounts were Statistics Canada report on violence against women, calling it Canada’s “shame.” However, a deeper dive into that report would have revealed that it spends a lot of its time cataloguing things that Saudi Arabia does not even consider to be crimes. Domestic violence and spousal rape are not criminalized in Saudi Arabia, and Saudi women can be lashed for adultery if they are raped.
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Yes–and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Muslims can also kill their children without penalty, as a Saudi father did with his daughter who was chatting on Facebook. Women have little freedom of movement in Saudi Arabia, or ability to get an education, work, or avoid forced marriage, and they have no rights to custody of their children.
The only good thing is that most Westerners are going to realize that this assertion is utterly ludicrous.
Brian says
Saudi is more UNCIVILIZED than I thought.
Lydia Church says
It’s not far behind, thanks to all the muslim migrants entering Canada, and the stupid rules trudope implements on their behalf!
Dov Berrol says
Another classic element of Islamic Personality Disorder: Psychological Projection –
The Basics of Psychological Projection
The theory of psychological projection was developed by Sigmund Freud, an Austrian psychologist commonly referred to as the “father of psychoanalysis.” For this reason, psychological projection is sometimes called “Freudian projection.” During his sessions with patients, Freud noticed that they would sometimes accuse others of having the same feelings they themselves were demonstrating. By engaging in this behavior, the patient was better able to deal with the emotions he or she was experiencing.
6woods says
Renate, please cite specific instances where women are not EQUAL UNDER THE LAW in Canada. Thank you.
Renate says
Why did all the women Ghomeshi had “rough sex” with over the years not come forward and have him charged? Women could have all the rights under the law that any man would have, but if they are too afraid due to social stigma or any other reason to use them, the rights would be “on paper only”, and therefore, they’re useless.
gravenimage says
Does Renate think that any of the problems in Canada or any other Western nation would be improved by the imposition of Shari’ah law, or by the invasion of large numbers of people who believe in such laws?
Would she be fine with moving to Saudi Arabia herself?
My guess is that she would not–because her pretending false moral equivalence here is just a pose.
Renate says
If the Liberal government would quit virtue signalling at everyone else’s expense, work to improve their own country, and I might add, quit making a fool of itself on the world stage, I would be quite happy.
Kay says
Western nations have been working to improve their own countries. That is why there is so much freedom and equality for women in them.
gravenimage says
We’ve heard this sort of claptrap before–that since the civilized West is not completely perfect in every way, that we have no right to speak out against utter savagery.
This would be like saying that since there were antisemites who didn’t want Jews in their country clubs in the US and that the remnants of the class system in Britain were unfair that they had no right to say anything about the horrors of the Nazis and the Holocaust.
This is moral insanity.
Also, as Kay notes, the West generally continues to improve and reform. Would that this were true of Islam.
Arthur says
Those poor authors at The Onion must be struggling to come up with sarcastic stories and parodies given the state of news in the mainstream media!
Kay says
+1
If the news I read hear at JW weren’t so often so sad, I would constantly wonder if I were reading something like the Onion.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Arthur and Kay.
Renate says
Just on this one story alone, I can see that the one thing Canadians hate worse than anything else is having someone else hold a different opinion than their own. Hold a different opinion than a Canadian and they will go ballistic on you. Saudis, take note!
gravenimage says
“A difference of opinion”? Is *that* how Renate is characterizing imprisoning women’s rights advocates? *Ugh*.
Renate says
I see it as a matter of International law, not Sharia law. The Saudis have laws too, as a sovereign nation. The Badawis are Saudis. They are not Canadians. In the early 2000’s, the Liberal government pussy footed around getting William Sampson out of Saudi prison when he was falsely accused there, so it seems odd that the Liberals speak up now for people who aren’t even Canadian citizens.
gravenimage says
Saudi Arabia is under Shari’ah law. Pretending that is not the case is absurd.
And Mrs. Badawi is indeed Canadian. Pretending this has nothing to do with Canada is quite false.
“Wife of imprisoned blogger Raif Badawi worries for his safety after foreign relations breakdown”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ensaf-haidar-raif-badawi-saudi-canada-relations-1.4775315
That Canada did nothing for Sampson is shameful–the charges against him were obviously absurd. He was likely arrested just to use as a bargaining chip to get Jihadists released from Guantanamo Bay, which is how this poor man was finally released.
But since Canada behaved shamefully in this case–as they did–demanding that they go on acting shamefully in every case forward is just bizarre, and very disturbing.
Renate says
Like it or not, Saudi Arabia is a sovereign country and they can have whatever law they choose, even if that includes Sharia law.
When did Mrs. Badawi come to Canada? Was it after the husband had already been arrested? If so, how convenient!
Under International law, countries have the right to govern themselves as they see fit. If International law is disturbing, what am I supposed to do about it?
gravenimage says
Clearly all Renate is going to do about disturbing laws is to vociferously defend them against good and decent people. *Ugh*.
Renate says
I’m sure Trudeau and Freeland will be happy to know that they have at least some supporters of the inane way they govern, but that’s my last comment on this story because I think it has been beaten to death.
gravenimage says
Note that I have never seen Renate posting here before. That her only stance here is to defend the savagery of Saudi Arabia while castigating civilized Canada does not bode well.
Renate says
Oh, for Heaven’s sake, I’m Linda. I had to change my nickname because there were two or more Lindas. I’m not some sinister Saudi agent, although I still do like MbS, though.
gravenimage says
I can’t recall any of the Lindas here heartily defending Shari’ah law against civilized people. I may have missed it, though…
Terry Gain says
Renate says
Aug 14, 2018 at 12:30 am
Like it or not, Saudi Arabia is a sovereign country and they can have whatever law they choose, even if that includes Sharia law.
When did Mrs. Badawi come to Canada? Was it after the husband had already been arrested? If so, how convenient!
Under International law, countries have the right to govern themselves as they see fit. If International law is disturbing, what am I supposed to do about it?
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And other countries have a right to criticize the way they treat their citizens. And, in the case of barbaric countries like Saudi Arabia, enlightened countries like Canada which has gender equality and equality of citizenship, should criticize as it may embarrass the Saudis to lessen the barbarism or, as in this case, reveal themselves by making unhinged and obviously untrue allegations.
You should be an expert on the topic of unhinged allegations.
Renate says
I believe you’re the one making all the allegations. I’m just stating facts.
Rarely says
Renate.
The movement to give equal voting rights to women is barely a 100 years old in the west. The movement to give equal rights only dates back to the 1960’s-70’s. The invention of more efficient domestic appliances and the birth control pill (1960’s) have given women unprecedented freedoms and mobility. With so many more women involved in all aspects of society there are new rules of engagement between the sexes which have not been fully understood or worked out. (e.g. Until the 1960’s it was not illegal for a man to rape his own wife). Things aren’t perfect yet.
The gap between how women live in the West and in muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia has never been greater. The West believes these changes are improvements and should be encouraged elsewhere.
However, they are relatively new changes and it would be somewhat hypocritical to be too aggressive in promoting them to other countries that lag behind such as Saudi Arabia. I believe this encouragement can be given through traditional diplomatic channels and that it is quite appropriate to do so. For a junior Cabinet Minister to criticize any foreign gov’t by tweeting for public consumption is, at best, poor form and can be unnecessarily offensive. It shows unprecedented ignorance AND unwarranted interference in the domestic affairs of a sovereign nation. Each country has its own unique challenges and SA has some very big ones — like getting around Sharia Law.
BUT it would be just as bad not to express our concerns at all because that implies tacit approval. The Trudeau gov’t has shown the height of hubris and stupidity in acting as it did.
(in my opinion).
Renate says
I agree with you 100%. Thank you for laying it all out there. It makes sense to me that KSA would be insulted at the impromptu tweet and it wasn’t that long ago that women were men’s property in Canada. How quickly we forget.
gravenimage says
Actually, we remember what progress we have made, and have no desire to return to the past. Well, most of us, in any case.
gravenimage says
True, Terry.
Politicianophobia says
What a lot of horse pucky from Renate today. However if Canadians do not stand up and fight the creeping Shari’ah law lovers, 10 Muslim MP, Justine, the Muslim Brotherhood we may end up just like the Saudis. The old Saudi king speaks of his beautiful Shari’ah law. OPPRESSION
When Imam Mazim Abdul-Adhim, head of the terrorists group, Hibtz ut-Tharir,living in London, Ontario was questioned about the hadith that says “Isn’t the witness of 2 women=to that of 1 man. The women said yes. He said it is because of the deficiency of a woman’ mind. Allah says”
When Maryam Monsef, MP for Peterborough-Kawartha, the Federal Minister for the Status of Women, the Muslim woman who does not know if she is from Iran or Afghanistan, tweets: “And the Nikah ceremony is a great symbol of the whole matrimonial practice/process Shari’ah fascinates me.”
When Ahmed Hussen, MP for York-Weston, the Immigration Minister , a Muslim, Somalian, immigrant, tells Canadians we are unCanadian, fear mongers, Islamophobic, racists and over all hateful people, I would say we are getting closer to the final goal of Shari’ah law in Canada.
As for women in Canada being oppressed I have to say, “MY ASS THEY ARE.”
We have some strong, Canadian women fighting against Shari’ah law ever being the law of this land, i.e. Michelle Rempel, MP from Calgary Rose Hill, Candice Bergen, Valerie Price, Act!forCanada.
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Renate says
It’s a fact that Saudi Arabia is a sovereign country and entitled to govern itself as it sees fit. Don’t blame me for facts. If anyone doesn’t like it, they can take it to the UN.
Kay says
http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/index.html
Renate says
That’s exactly where the issue should be taken up, at the UN, not on Twitter. Then we’ll all see how far this issue gets at the UN.
Rarely says
No question that the problems Canada will face as a result of the Trudeau gov’t’s views on immigration are of much greater importance to Canadians than how Saudi Arabia acts towards women. Special attention should be placed on ensuring that muslim women and girls in Canada are freely able to avail themselves of “Canadian values” and not be caught in a mini-Sharia trap.
gravenimage says
Good post, Politicianophobia. Muslims want to bring the barbarism of Shari’ah law *here*.
Renate says
I’m sure Trudeau and Freeland will be happy to know that they have at least some supporters of the inane way they govern, but that’s my last comment on this story because I think it has been beaten to death.
gravenimage says
Wait–wanting to keep brutal Shari’ah law out of Canada is now a bad thing? How does Renate think this will improve women’s rights in Canada? Good God…
Politicianophobia says
Canada should tell the Saudis where they can stick their oil. Close all the Islamic/Saudi funded schools of hate in Canada. Throw out CAIR. Stop funding all the terrorists through the summer jobs program–fund the Churches, support CANADIAN VALUES. Dismantle the propaganda machine CBC. We Canadians need to fire all the Liberals and all the NDP for supporting sister Iqra Khalid–M103. 2019 we will rid ourselves of the dress-up queen. The Saudis might be surprised what real women in Canada are capable of.
Mary C. says
Ha! Don’t make me laugh…
Jay says
We know Western nations will eventually have to go to war to destroy islam. We should start the war now and get it over with as expeditiously as possible.
gravenimage says
Islam used to be isolated. We were largely safe from Jihad then.
Schrödinger says
It would appear Canada, unlike the USA, doesn’t sell the Saudis much in the way of military hardware or anything indispensable. All Trudeau’s timidity and appeasement towards the Muslim world, has quite evidently, only earned the Saudi’s contempt. They don’t need Canada as a partner in business, politics or anything.
Instead they’re making an example of a relatively weak Western nation as a warning to any other that may have been getting a little uppity, of contemplating criticising Saudi Arabia on human rights (its lack thereof) or any other issue. We’ll see how further “subdued” and “willing to pay the Jizya” Trudeau can be.
gravenimage says
We should join with Canada on condemning this persecution of human rights activists in Saudi Arabia.