Indeed. For years I have called for a reconfiguration of our international alliances based on the new realities of the resurgent jihad threat. We are still working with Cold War alliances that simply aren’t real: Turkey is indeed not a friend, and has not been for quite some time. It would be better to recognize that than to continue to pretend that it isn’t so.
“Donald Trump Challenges Turkey: ‘We Are Not Going to Take It,’” by Charlie Spiering, Breitbart, August 17, 2018:
President Donald Trump said Friday he will continue fighting with Turkey about its decision to detain Pastor Andrew Brunson, threatening additional action against the country.
“Turkey has been a problem for a long time,” Trump said to reporters as he left the White House. “They have not acted as a friend.”
The president called the charges against Brunson “phony,” adding that Brunson was not a spy.
“We haven’t seen the last of that. We are not going to take it sitting down,” Trump said. “They can’t take our people. So you will see what happens.”
On Thursday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said the administration had plans to ratchet up sanctions on government officials if the country did not respond to demands for Brunson’s release.
“We’ve put sanctions on several of their Cabinet members,” Mnuchin said during a Cabinet meeting with Trump. “Working with you, we have more that we’re planning to do if they don’t release him quickly.”
Turkish President Tayyip Erdoğan called for a boycott of United States technology, such as the iPhone, in response to the additional sanctions and tariffs leveled by the Trump administration….
ron says
Being freinds with unbelievers is haram
christianblood says
(..Turkey has been a problem for a long time. They have not acted as a friend..)
Let us put things in perspective:
Trump is indeed very wrong! Turkey (Erdogan) has been America’s friend and ally and has even gone along with America’s regime-change plans in Syria a few years ago by allowing and facilitating tens of thousands of international islamic jihadists mercenaries from around the world to invade Syria through the Turkish borders. This is has gone on 2011-2016, Turkey has even shot down a Russian war plane that was aiding the Syrian army and bombing jihadists near the Turkish border. However, Turkey changed its course in 1916 when Turkey was stabbed at the back by the US by orchestrating and almost succeeding a Gulenist-islamist Coup against Erdogan. That is when Turkey changed its course and realized the fact that the back-stabbing America cannot be trusted and that they should do whatever is right for their country.
The Istanbulian says
It took turkey 102 years to figure that out? Seems like you are an AK bot.
Avenger says
I’m sure Christianblood meant 2016. You ever do a typo bulian?
BTW, His post is 100% correct too.
christianblood says
Avenger
I meant (2016)! Thanks!
Mac-101 says
So we will let the Germans, historic allies of the Turks and the Russians, historic enemies of the Turks battle it out for Endogen affections? LOL!
VarAway says
I recall the Dutch Congressman Geert Wilders and leader of the Freedom Party,
mentioned during a speech in the House: ” Erdogan is a total Freak “!
The entire House was appalled…..you don’t use that kind of language to a friendly
country’s Leader ( at thát time Erdogan was P.M. of Turkey).
Mac-101 says
Looks like Geert was right again.
K Smith says
Most of “American” technology is made in other countries so I don’t think this nonsense will affect American workers at all. As for Apple corporation, it will be fine.
MFritz says
Time to get rid of Turkey. Russia most certainly doesn’t want Erdogan as an alley – he’s way too unstable and too much trouble.
Let Erdogan run his country into the ground and then pick up the pieces. If there’s anything left worth the effort.
gravenimage says
Putin has been reaching out to Turkey:
“Vladimir Putin hails the ‘efficient and close’ ties between Russia and Turkey”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-hails-close-russia-turkey-syria-vladimir-putin-recep-tayyip-erdogan-a7623791.html
But Turkey is not going to be a true ally to any Infidels.
christianblood says
gravenimage
It is the other way round Graven! After he got stabbed in the back by his US (Nato) allies and realized the failed CIA-orchestrated Gulenist-Islamist Coup against him, Erdogan started to reach out to Russia and Putin of course welcomed it!
The Istanbulian says
Christianblood is hoping to spill it. AK troll. Yalanci. Go back to kacaksaray while the people starve.
Baucent says
Agree. Turkey is another Pakistan, the “friend” you can do without.
Avenger says
If Erdo doesn’t capitulate then place a naval blockade and a no fly zone around the island or Cyprus against Turkeys navy and Air Force. This will allow the Cypriot military to finally rid the north part of their nation of the Turk occupation forces.
Notmoron says
This is one of the reasons why the left hate President Trump
Diane Harvey says
“Turkish President Tayyip Erdoğan called for a boycott of United States technology, such as the iPhone, in response to the additional sanctions and tariffs leveled by the Trump administration”
Yesterday I saw pictures of Turks burning dollar bills and smashing iPhone with hammers. 1400 years of Muslim inbreeding following a cult of utterly foolish beliefs and practices produces today’s Islamic World.
pemba says
Turkey is still under developed nation,
after watching movie “Midnight Express” Turkey will not
develop in coming 100 years.
christianblood says
pemba
By “development” what do you mean? Is producing machines, cars, computers
and becoming materially rich really mean development to you? Then why all the miserable lives in the West, like loneliness, huge amount of suicides, family and social and moral breakdown and huge amount of degeneracy and decadence? Why do we see people who have nothing in the ‘third world’ countries who are infinitely happier and more relaxed and more optimistic in their life compared to Westerners who have every material thing and are even millionaires but who are still committing suicide every day? Think deeper of these words! Get out of the false materialistic box! Don’t be deceived! Happiness DOES NOT COME FROM MATERIAL STUFF
OR MATERIAL DEVELOPMENT!
(St. Mathew 6:24-34)
Marco says
Well if it’s so great in middle eastern countries why are muslims coming by the hundreds of thousands to Europe and North America?
It must be an islamic outreach to show the evil west how not to have sidewalks and paved roads, or infrastructure that would make lives in the third world even more optimistic than the utopia it is today.
christianblood says
Marco posted
(..Well if it’s so great in middle eastern countries why are muslims coming by the hundreds of thousands to Europe and North America?..)
First they are deceived by the big popular but false belief that is running the whole world today and that belief is te belief that (material things bring happiness)! Secondly, they probably see the weakness and spinelessness of the West want to islamize it some day in the future!
Now, let me ask you a question, if material things like cars, gadgets, income security etc, etc bring happiness (as the global popular secular belief maintains) why do we see many millions of Westerners who are broken and live on medication to get by and hundreds of thousands of them, including many of them who have fame and many committing suicide every year?
What is the source of the huge social, familial, marital and moral breakdown and spiritual bankruptcy in the Western world? And why do many extremely poor peoples in the “third’ world live more peaceful and relaxed, valuable and more meaningful lives than their Western counterparts?
LeftisruiningCanada says
You need to find another forum to express your irrational hatred of ‘the West’ CB.
You’ve traveled much in the rest of the world? It ain’t like you think. At all.
And neither is the West. There’s plenty of people living quite happily thankyou.
Maybe it’s not just the immigrants flooding into our nations that have believed some lies about it CB.
christianblood says
LeftisruiningCanada
It is not about hatred of the West, these things happen, these are facts!
LeftisruiningCanada says
They happen everywhere.
Every human ever born and who lives in this fallen world is themselves a fallen being prone to all manner of sadness, despair and other evils, caused by others, their fallen biology or their own choices.
There are toxic family situations, for example, EVERYWHERE, regardless of the economic context. There are also good families, with caring father/husbands and loving mother/wives, in both the richest and poorest circumstances.
(I’d argue that certain cultures in this world are much more liable to create toxic families than ours in the West, but that’s another subject)
But you know all this i’m sure. You’re just too overflowing with tribal in-preference to let a chance of expressing it go by.
christianblood says
LeftisruiningCanada
They happen more in the so-called “rich West”. Over half of people in the West who have a lot are depressed, on meds and end up committing suicide! The point is this: Material poverty vs Spiritual poverty! Which one is the worst???
Human experience confirms spiritual poverty is the worst!
Jesus says spiritual poverty is the worst:
“..Do not live by bread (material things) alone, but the word of God
(spiritual things) St. Mathew 4:4
LeftisruiningCanada says
The idea that half the Western population commit suicide is fanciful. Rather like your view of the 3rd world as being some kind of zen-like place of contentment and peaceful living.
The Istanbulian says
No. It means not killing Kurds, denying the Armenian genocide or Alevi existence, letting rapists and wife beaters go, Gezi-ing people, destroying history in order to build mosques, ruining the countries around you with agents from diyanet, wiping out native cultures for islam while killing all who don’t submit.
Bilyoruz abi. Sen bakiyoruz.
sam says
ChristianBlood is either Erdogan himself or an agent of that despot. In all Islam’s perfect glory it has to ill-treat its opposition. No matter how false Christianity may be, Islam lives in fear of Christianity and other religious expressions. Islamic countries have promulgated laws to guard against others. Furthermore, it persecutes dissenting voices whether political or religious. If it is indeed your right to terminate the expression of critical views why would like to express your views on this forum. Somehow, deep in your heart there is silent admiration for this and other similar sites. As a paid agent of the Islamic doctrine you yearn for freedom from your personal and fraternal incarceration. It is needless to insult you or your religion because you are embracing a dying philosophy and failed spiritual fraternity which can only exist through coercion …
Renate says
God bless President Trump.
pemba says
Amen.
God Bless USA
Wellington says
Turkey remaining in NATO is a farce. NATO, the greatest alliance in history for the protection and promotion of freedom, needed a very secular Turkey during the Cold War as a buffer against the USSR. Besides, we don’t live in a perfect world so it is naive to assert that all of the allies of the US during the Cold War should have been free nations. Ideally, yes, but in the realm of reality there was no way this should have been insisted upon. After all, before the Cold War America and Britain had to align with Stalin against Hitler.
While Russia remains a belligerent towards the West, Eastern European nations, once satellites of the Soviet Union, are now free and independent (with many now in NATO). So, Russia is simply not as much of a threat as it once was. Speaking for myself, I wish Russia would finally realize where its best interests lie—economically, militarily, culturally, socially, etc.—and cease its hostility to the West and, yes, ideally, eventually become a part of NATO (but not as long as someone like Putin is at the helm).
Compounding matters more so, however, is the fact that several NATO members like the UK and Germany seem bent upon committing national suicide by refusing to comprehend that Islam is a voracious beast that seeks domination everywhere and is not “merely” just another religion. But, in any case, Turkey under Erdogan remaining in NATO serves few positives, if any, for America and its allies, and yearly the negatives of Turkey continuing as a NATO member keep piling up. Time for a house cleaning of NATO, with Turkey out and, hopefully, all NATO members realizing that the great external enemy anymore is not Communism but Islam. Yeah, it’s quite a hope but while the ideal can never be reached it should always be striven for.
Indiana Tom says
Yeah, the mentality of certain posters of a Russian persuasion gets to be a bit of a drag. Russian could be a great ally if they quit suffering from rectal cranial inversion.
Western Europe needs to rediscover their historical identities and quit mommy coddling Islam and treat it as the enemy which it is.
Secular Turkey is walking in the footsteps of once secular Iran and for all purposes will be an Islamic Republic with misery and injustice for all. Turkey is actually a threat to NATO.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Wellington and Indiana Tom.
LeftisruiningCanada says
yup, good cooments
Gary says
“Calls for the boycotting of American technology.”
Well then…..No F35s for you…..That’s that sorted.
TrueChristian says
I was thinking the same thing. They keep the missles from Russia and we can sell those planes to Israel.
Ergdon or whoever he is is pretty much a dictator in Turkey anyway. Time to kick them to the curve and make sure they leave Israel alone.
Indiana Tom says
No Sopwith Camels for you, let alone F-35s.
eduardo odraude says
He doesn’t just want to boycott American tech. He wants to boycott civilization. Good luck with that, Erdogan.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I like the photograph used in this article.
It looks like Erdogan is trying to appease Super Trump, who is busy telling the guy to shut the hell up.
Super Trump Rex.
Darryl Kerney says
Turkey is headed for insolvency, their currency crisis will become a credit crisis, they are in serious trouble but instead of taking intelligent action they are apparently more concerned about jihad.
gravenimage says
True, Darryl:
“What went wrong for Turkey? Its economy is ‘in the midst of a perfect storm'”
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/13/turkey-crisis-economy-faces-weak-lira-inflation-debt-and-tariffs.html
Darryl Kerney says
thanks.
Indeed, islam like socialism needs to expand because it always needs new sources of other people’s money after it over spends and borrows and wastes so much that it must plunder more….
vlparker says
The FBI should have arrested Erdogan’s thugs when they attacked protesters in the US. …….
Oh, I forgot. The FBI is too busy covering up Las Vegas, bulldozing the New Mexico compound and trying to get Robert and Pamela killed.
gravenimage says
Yes–that was appalling.
Kudos to those who prosecuted these thugs, rather than winking at “diplomatic immunity”:
“19 indicted, including 15 Turkish security officials, for attacking protesters during Erdogan visit to U.S.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-turkey-erdogan-indictments-20170829-story.html#
That Turks felt so emboldened as to attack protesters *in the US* was deeply disturbing–that they overestimated what we would put up with is heartening.
Mac-101 says
Exactly!
Indiana Tom says
For you who are in the Bible Prophecy thing, Gog is actually in Turkey and not in Russia..
mortimer says
Measures that impoverish the Turk government and ministers is more effective than punishing the people who voted for them, though the people of Turkey have voted MOST FOOLISHLY for GENOCIDAL FASCISTS.
The Kurds are close to being exterminated by these ideological racists.
gravenimage says
Erdogan is essentially a dictator at this point–he has been in power, as either president or prime minister, since 2003.
gravenimage says
Trump: “Turkey has been a problem for a long time. They have not acted as a friend.”
………………………..
So true–and so good to *finally* have an American president notice this.
Wellington says
Indeed, gravenimage. No Presidents like Trump for plain speaking since Teddy Roosevelt and Andrew Jackson (well, maybe Harry Truman as well).
How refreshing since, a la Abraham Lincoln, America is the last best hope of mankind. One either grasps this or misses most everything.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Evil United States has never been a trusted ally of all Muslim nations because of it’s treacherous foreign policy towards all Muslims.For long evil United States has been looking for an excuse to cripple Turkish economy, but it has to fail because Turks are not fools, they have to shift to more reliable partners like China and Russia.
gravenimage says
What crap. Erdogan’s re-Islamization of Turkey is what has crippled its economy. No outside nation has the power to do this to Turkey even if they were so inclined, which they are not.
Bu then, Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that we are “international brigands” because we don’t allow Muslims to enslave us.
Wellington says
“…because of it’s {sic} treacherous foreign policy towards all Muslims….”
I welcome, Ibrahim, a treacherous foreign policy by America towards iniquity. And few, if any things, are more iniquitous than the Islamic faith and thus complete skepticism should be exhibited by America towards all Muslims, just as America should exhibit complete skepticism towards those who adhere to other horrible belief systems like Marxism and Nazism.
Understand, America should tolerate in its midst massive errors such as Islam, Marxism and Nazism, but America should NEVER delude itself into thinking that such belief systems are a positive because surely they are not. In short, Ibrahim, Islam sucks. May your Allah strike me dead tonight if I have erred here about Islam.
Have a nice day. Time for a beer. Be in touch with you soon.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington, so any delay in exterminating all Muslims as your ancestors did to the original inhabitants of Americas will lead you to go on rampage slaughtering muslims in evil United States or hitting your head on building if you could not succeed
LeftisruiningCanada says
When you have ‘reliable’ friends like Russia and China, what more need be said?
And yes, it’s surely beer’o’clock.
LeftisruiningCanada says
In my reading, Russia and Chine have, most recently in their histories, been reliably trusted with massacring tens of millions of their own citizens.
Ibrahim, you are cautioned, though welcome, to such ‘reliable’ ‘friends’.
christianblood says
LeftisruiningCanada
Get your perspective straight! No country has invaded and bombed more countries and killed more civilians that the USA since 1945! In Vietnam and North Korea alone US has napalm and cluster bombed civilians and murdered close to 6 million civilians! See the factual summary below:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US/Bombing_campaigns_since_1945
LeftisruiningCanada says
Nonsense.
And please don’t try and distract from the point about those filthy communists killing their OWN civilians, rather than those caught up in armed conflicts and/or supporting active combatants.
The “Great Leap Forward” between 1958 – 1962 killed at least 7 times the amount you mentioned just for starters…..
Where were the protests about that in Russia or China?
Oh yes, that’s right – they all got kidnapped and murdered by their own governments.
christianblood says
LeftisruiningCanada
Please understand communism was not indigenous to Russia but it was born in the West, brought over from the West, namely Germany by a group of people who hated Russia and you can google that and find out the truth!
It is not “nonsense” but a FACT that terrorist USA invaded and bombed more countries and murdered more civilians (millions of them) than any other country since 1945! Go and see the documented summary of these invasions and bombings on the link below:
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US
LeftisruiningCanada says
The origins of marxim-leninism are well known of course.
And please, regardless of where such philosophies were dreamed up, it wasn’t the west who took hold of them and then proceeded to crush and slaughter hundreds of millions of their own people in pursuit of unobtainable fantasies.
The sheer scale of the barbarity unleashed is unimaginable. It puts the efforts of our home grown fascist swine firmly in the shade.
Just look at the devastation left behind, even to this day, wherever filthy communism was attempted. It will take many generations for the people in some of those countries to shake off the stupor of socialism.
And it was this fanatical pursuit which caused the West to be required to engage in more fighting.
Indiana Tom says
Yeah, Russians and Turks have historically always been best buds. Snicker, giggle.
The Istanbulian says
The ottomans should never have started attacking the us. We will always beat you. You could have been a prosperous people; however, your pride invited us to shores of tripoli.
Now you must sleep in the bed you made. Maybe one day when you put humanity over your false vanity, you can live a worthwhile life.
But that would mean giving up your empire and supremacist ideology and we don’t think you have the brains.
James Lincoln says
Ibrahim,
You are like a broken record, “evil United States, etc.”
Please get some non-Muslim psychiatric help. Perhaps he/she will recommend some long-term SSRIs for depression, benzodiazepines for anxiety, and possibly lithium carbonate to better control your mania.
As you improve, the medications can be titrated downward.
And totally ditch Islam with lots of counseling. The comfort that you claim you get from it is not evident in your postings. Every single one is an angry rant.
Do yourself a favor and join the life of the living.
Crusades Were Right says
“Turkish President Tayyip Erdoğan called for a boycott of United States technology, such as the iPhone…”
Why stop there, Mr Erdoğan? Why not boycott ALL of Western technology? No self-respecting Ottoman sultan should have to rely on infidel ingenuity – right?
; ¬)
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Crusaders are right, you are too closed from realities in the world today. west has no more monopoly over science and technology. you cannot say that to Turks, they are now compiting with all industrialised nations, hence the envy by the west. There is nothing the west can produce, which Turks cannot do. Go to Turkey and see. A fool!!
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Go to Turkey and see A fool!!”
Indeed, it is possible to catch a glimpse of Erdogan if you are lucky.
Peter WF says
Go President Donald Trump. Not a professional politician.
I love to see common sense in action.
infidel says
Turkey is a TROJAN in the NATO…Extremely dangerous to have them!!!
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, evil United States has not succeed in crippling Turkish economy because Turkey has retaliated by banning many products from evil United States and double tariffs. Turkish is growing fastly and evil United States is facing more isolations due to its treacherous foreign policy.It appears that you have no basic basic knowledge on international economics. A fool !!
StellaSaidSo says
‘…Turkish is growing fastly…’
Classic illiterate bolloxspeak from JW’s resident clown. You need to see a doctor, Ibrahim, you’re getting sillier by the day.
Peter WF says
search “images world map average IQ”
……………………………………marry first cousins”
……………………………………corruption”
……………………………………muslims”
Notice a pattern? If not you need some help!!!!
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Liar Gravenimage, Turkish is fastly growing. it has retaliated sanctions by treacherous evil United States by banning many products from evil United States and imposing double tariffs as evil United States impose it.Let trade war continue.It is because you are too ignorant about international economics that you believe that evil United States has succeeded in crippling Turkish economy. A fool
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington, your evil United States is now fully apartheid state and you are becoming more fanatical cherishing such obnoxious system. It appears that any delay in exterminating all Muslims in your evil United States as your ancestors did to the original inhabitants of Americas will lead you to pgo on rampage slaughtering muslims and hitting your head on the building as a sign of frustration. wicked gene of evils!!
Carolyne says
I know the nature and mentality of Turks very well. They will believe any fantastic story told by an Imam. I remember once a Turk told me that a popular fast-food restaurant was serving worms as hamburger. He believed it. If one could fly a sky-writing airplane over Istanbul with the message that Islam requires they all go kill themselves and they though the message came from Allah, which they would, they would obey it. In fact, it is not a bad idea.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Carolyne, but Americans are fools having a madman (savage mad devil Trump) as their leader telling them that he can sustain that outdated hegemonic control over international and they believe it.
jack reynolds says
The correct name is Constantinople.
Peter WF says
search “images world map average IQ”
………………………………marry first cousins”
………………………………corruption”
………………………………muslims”
I feel sure you will notice a pattern.
jack reynolds says
Hmmm… ‘Turkey is not a friend’. Isn’t that understating the situation by a ‘small’ amount? I understand that it may not be practical, but they deserve to be very unceremoniously, booted out of NATO tomorrow.