Pathetic, delusional intolerance of #Christianity in Turkey: During a TV show about celebrities, Turkish channel TV8 censored a photo of American singer Selena Gomez by blocking out the cross that’s attached to the necklace she was wearing. https://t.co/wFyO6JhZBp
— Uzay Bulut (@UzayB) August 4, 2018
Selena Gomez is a bit underdressed here by Islamic standards, but that was less important for Turkish channel TV8 than the cross she was wearing, to which they reacted as any vampire would.
“And their saying, ‘Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.’ And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.” (Qur’an 4:157)
“Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah’s Messenger said, ‘The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).'” (Bukhari 3.43.656)
gravenimage says
Turkish TV channel blocks out cross on Selena Gomez’s necklace
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Muslims *hate* the cross. Even an Infidel wearing a cross half a world away is anathema for them.
Good for Selena Gomez.
Pious Muslims have a lot of reasons to hate this girl. She’s a woman, an Infidel, a singer, and she sings about love. She doesn’t wear a Burqa, either.
mortimer says
Such a tolerant religion ! Uh, no, it isn’t tolerant at all… even in regards to a PHOTOGRAPH.
Islam is the most intolerant religion.
The doctrine of AL WALAA WAL BARAA is Islam’s teaching of HATRED and APARTHEID directed against all the DIRTY KUFAAR.
Muslims are required to HATE kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ … because Allah hates them. If they do not hate kafirs, but love them and socialize with them, Muslims will be sent to Islamic hell.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
jimmyb says
That alone (allah hating everyone but muslimes,) proves that “it” is not god. God created all mankind, but hates them unless they become muslims? Why doesn’t that “god” tell them that if they do not turn to islam, that he will send them to hell when they die? Why does this “all powerful god,” require his followers to do his killing? What a weak, pathetic, god, this allah is.
BC says
I lived in a small Muslim country for 4 years so I saw how they operate, even though at the time fairly liberal later not. A few examples of religious ‘tolerance’. The cross road signs were like two curved slashes, so as not to depict a cross. The Christian grave yard was surrounded by a high fence so that the Muslims did not have to see crosses on Christian grave stones.
We had to erect a ceremonial arch at our school to welcome the Sultan and when it was almost finished, some keen eyed Muslim noticed that there were 4 points on the circles, rather like the cardinal points on a compass rose. Barely noticeable but the whole thing had to be done again! I should add that the design was done by a Muslim. not a Christian so nothing sneaky was being done!
gravenimage says
Crazy but not surprising.
Snowy Evening says
Thank you for this information! Most of us who have never lived in a muslim country would not know these very important details. Please keep informing us! Have you ever considered writing a book about all that you encountered while living in that muslim country? It would be very interesting and useful.
balam says
Islam is the most EVIL and Hateful Ideology invented by a man.No wonder the Muslims have to say P.B.U.H after their prophet’s name.It s like throwing water on a building.You would be mad to do that unless that was on fire.
gravenimage says
Yes, Jay Boo–more reasons for Muslims to hate her.
Carol the 1st says
And she “shares the wealth” a bit (e.g. bare shoulders) which is her natural right and makes for a healthier, less repressed society with a little light at the end of the tunnel for proper men to dream on.
gravenimage says
And good for Turkish journalist Uzay Bulut for speaking out here.
She has written about American Pastor Andrew Brunson’s unjust imprisonment:
“Turkey: American Pastor Brunson in Prison; ISIS Terrorists Roam Free”
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12736/turkey-american-pastor-brunson-in-prison-isis
Here’s some more of her excellent work at Gatestone institute:
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/author/Uzay+Bulut
jewdog says
Very offensive for us Ezra worshipers.
gravenimage says
Now *that* is hilarious, Jewdog.
For any not familiar, Qur’an 9:30 reads:
The Jews say, “Ezra is the son of Allah “; and the Christians say, “The Messiah is the son of Allah .” That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?
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Of course, Jews have never once made any such claim–it is not something found in Judaism at all.
That hasn’t stopped Muslims from murdering them for it for centuries, though.
Elisha says
“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.” – Zechariah 12:10-11
Hopefully, jewdog, you will read the Old Testament with a burden for truth in your heart and see Jesus Christ, as He is here, along with the Father, speaking side by side. Jeremiah 29:13, Psalm 145:18, et al.
balam says
JESUS IS LORD AND MOHAMMAD WAS A FRAUD BUT QUITE A GENIUS AT DECEIVING BILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
TXGULFCOAST says
Don’t give Mo credit for what the Dark One (Lucifer) did. Islam is his creation, as is every religion that perverts the ONLY TRUE GOD.
Lydia Church says
Mainly for those who worship satan!
The devil hates the cross more than anyone because that is where he was defeated.
So HA!
Take that!
gravenimage says
Lydia, Jewdog is being sarcastic here.
balam says
Lydia: Very beautiful comments.May God bless you eternally.
gravenimage says
This last is often grimly true.
There was a secular Turk who posted here for quite a while–Emhotep, I think his name was–who eventually revealed some very disturbing beliefs.
He said that it was “racist” *not* to believe that Turks were racially superior to everyone else, and he thought that Infidels should consider it an honor to die for Turks (he regularly demanded that we invade Turkey to free secular Turks).
He finally wound up posting a video of the invasion of Constantinople–of Muslims conquering Infidels in the bloodiest possible manner–to threaten us for supposedly not doing enough for him and Turks who thought the way he did.
Even though he was a secularist, he had obviously thoroughly embraced Muslim and Turkish supremacism. It was deeply disturbing. He was eventually banned, I believe.
gravenimage says
My post was intended to be a reply to anotherJWreader.
Indiana Tom says
Surprised they did not photoshop a burka and hijab on her. Selena loves gun control so I am not going to cry too much as she is part of the red green axis anyway..
Elisha says
“… the cross she was wearing, to which they reacted as any vampire would.”
LOL!! Brother Robert, you crack me up. God bless you and your ministry.
Ren says
This is a very bad Photoshop job!
gravenimage says
Yes, it is. Not the most offensive thing about it, though.
jewcat says
Islam fears the cross. Somewhere, it knows they will be defeated by it. In this sign, conquet.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
But the cross is an Islamic symbol. It is an Islamic instrument of torture, celebrated in Quran 5:33.
Quiz: Who is the most famous Muslim in America?
Hint: He is not famous for being a Muslim, or for being in sports. And he appears on TV every day.
[Spoiler Space]
Answer: It’s Mike Lindell, the inventor of the My Pillow. We know he is Muslim because he wears Islamic jewelry around his neck. It’s kind of like subliminal advertising for Islam.
gravenimage says
Is this a joke, Mark? From what I know of Mike Lindell, he is a devout Christian.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
He is? They why does he wear Islamic jewelry? We need a fatwa on this. Ibrahim Hooper, you monitor Jihad Watch. Speak up, Ibe. Whaddaya say?
gravenimage says
Oh, I get it. I’m a bit slow on the uptake today, Mark.
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sam says
This compelling censorship follows Erdogan’s coerced Islamification of Turkey. His reversal of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk’s economic and social and religious secularization landscape points to a leader hell-bent to force his country into a pre-1923 mindset. The recent imaginary coup, the vilification of his erstwhile friend Gul and the incarceration of the American Pastor suggests something seriously is fomenting in this man’s mind. He is at the precipice of ditching NATO as Turkey’s ally to embrace a nonpareil Islam. The only question that remains, when is he completely going to remove Western images from his controlled media?
Susan B says
The power of the Cross is an amazing thing. The Cross crosses out the death cult and allah, and that puts fear into to the hearts and minds of mohammedans.
No Muzzies Here says
Better not to stir up the savages. They might see the cross and fly off in rage and fury, breaking and burning everything in sight.
gravenimage says
Everything “stirs them up”. I’m afraid.
Mary says
I thought that Turkey had no problems with other religions that they lived together in peaceful harmony. So why block out the cross?
By the way I was being sarcastic about not having problems.
Bob says
Watch Bill Warner clearly show political Islam for what it is
There is no hated in what he shows, no malice, just pure facts and data
Islam needs to be understood in 3 parts. The Koran is just one part, which was when Mohammad preached tolerance
After that period, Mohammad became political and then turned to jihad to get his message across. He created a totalitarian system driven by the sword. A system of conquest that allows deceit, murder, violence and slavery as part of it’s cause until the entire works is converted. Islam can never integrate with western values because Islam is not a religion, it’s a way of life and to Islamic followers, the only way of life
Watch Bill Warner videos for an impartial data driven analysis of political Islam
https://youtu.be/czBiWm3ljv0
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Cross is a symbol of paganism inspired by the Satan Christians Call Holy Spirit depicting God as weak who appeared in human form and was killed by humans for him to reconcile with mankind . Is there any stupidity above this madness. Quran 4:157 saying “wama qataluhu yaqina (they did not killed him (Jesus) for certain) “is now discovered to be absolute truth. Even mithraist Christian have a dispute as to whether or jesus died on the cross, they are not certain. see Bart Erhman’s works and that of Helen Ellerbe on the crucifixion of Jesus.
So, for mithraist christians to insist on selling this pagan idea to muslims is an act of provocation. But the Quran enjoins muslims to tolerate mithraist christians sticking to this pagan beliefs once they do not to impose it on Muslims. mithraist christian colonialists have been imposing this pagan symbol on colonised muslims up to today. Eg, military uniforms, lawyer’s attires, hospital ambulances and even charitable organizations like Red Cross. where is secularism mithraist christians have been advocating? it is a sham. Such totalitarian agenda by mithraist Christians can never force muslims to accept pagan Christianity no matter how they try. Fools!!
Keys says
Here’s itace who knows what God is.
CogitoErgoSum says
Ibrahim, if you think linking Mithras with Christianity makes you look smart, you need to think some more. It actually makes you look stupid. Here is another attempt to get you to see your mistake:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlF0gVedODE&t=906s
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Cross is a symbol of paganism inspired by the Satan Christians Call Holy Spirit depicting God as weak who appeared in human form and was killed by humans for him to reconcile with mankind . Is there any stupidity above this madness.
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This actually brings up an important point. Muslims believe that a loving God is “weak”, and believe that their savage deity is more manly. This actually explains much of the brutal behavior of Muslims.
More:
Quran 4:157 saying “wama qataluhu yaqina (they did not killed him (Jesus) for certain) “is now discovered to be absolute truth.
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Muslims believe that Jesus–really, “Isa”–compelled some poor soul to die nameless in his place. Muslims love this kind of vicious cowardice. *Ugh*.
And no–only moronic Muslims believe this to be the truth.
More:
Even mithraist Christian have a dispute as to whether or jesus died on the cross, they are not certain. see Bart Erhman’s works and that of Helen Ellerbe on the crucifixion of Jesus.
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Bart Erhman is not a Christian. In fact, his blog is titled, “Why I Am Not A Christian – The Bart Ehrman Blog”. Helen Ellerbe is not Christian, either, so this claim is absurd.
Moreover, Bart Ehrman does not deny that Christ was crucified. In fact, he writes this:
“Jesus’ Crucifixion as King of the Jews”
One of the main reasons I think Jesus called himself the future messiah is that this best explains the best attested event of his entire life: his crucifixion by the Romans.
There are a few things we can say with virtual certainty about Jesus. For example: he was a Jewish preacher from rural Galilee who made a fateful trip to Jerusalem and was crucified by the Roman governor Pontius Pilate…
https://ehrmanblog.org/jesus-crucifixion-as-king-of-the-jews/
The most I can see from Helen Ellerbe is the claim that there are some inconsistencies in the Gospel accounts of the crucifixion–not the assertion that if never happened.
More:
So, for mithraist christians to insist on selling this pagan idea to muslims is an act of provocation. But the Quran enjoins muslims to tolerate mithraist christians sticking to this pagan beliefs once they do not to impose it on Muslims.
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In other words, if Christians dare preach to Muslims, they can be murdered.
More:
mithraist christian colonialists have been imposing this pagan symbol on colonised muslims up to today.
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Christians have never done this. Citations, please.
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Eg, military uniforms, lawyer’s attires, hospital ambulances and even charitable organizations like Red Cross. where is secularism mithraist christians have been advocating? it is a sham.
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Well, this is ludicrous.There is nothing specifically Christian about military uniforms or “lawyer’s attires”. What does this last even mean? Most lawyers dress professionally in suits, but no one is required to do so. Modern suits are not specifically Christian, either.
And while charity is indeed Christian, Muslims can reject charity if they so desire it.
And Muslims certainly do not have to practice charity–indeed, they rarely do.
No Christians are forcing these things on Muslims.
Also, just look at how grotesque this is–in rummaging around for some sort of violence Christians are visiting on Muslims, the best he can come up with is the claim that they are forcing Muslims to accept charity. Good grief…
More:
Such totalitarian agenda by mithraist Christians can never force muslims to accept pagan Christianity no matter how they try. Fools!!
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No Christians are forcing any of this on Muslims, so how is that “totalitarian”?
More projection from Ibrahim itace muhammed, since Shari’ah really does force Islamic norms on Christians and other Infidels.
tim gallagher says
Well argued, gravenimage. gravenimage 100 versus Ibrahim 0. The usual score when you demolish this Muslim apologist Ibrahim with some logic.. Of course, Ibrahim is trying, yet again, to defend the totally indefensible, Islam. I must say I rarely even glance at Ibrahim’s nonsense. I do wonder why he bothers to bash his head against the brick wall by trying to argue for Islam on Jihad Watch. I guess he’s a masochist.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Tim.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
muslims will never accept this idiot pagan idea that the whole Almighty God the creator of all and the most powerful appearing in human form and was killed for him to save. Quran 4:157 ,which stated that Jesus never died on the cross for certain remains absolute truth that even mithraist christian scholars have been in disagreement as to whether or not Jesus died on the cross. see Bart Erhman’s works and that of Helen Ellerbe on the myth of crucifixion of Jesus
so, those idiot mithraist christians trying to sell this rubbish to muslims by hook or crook are just wasting their time, Muslims will never accept it. Fools !!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mithraist christians trying to sell this stupid pagan idea that God descended so low appearing in human image and was killed for him to save ,by hook or crook, are just wasting their time, Muslims will never accept this iidiocy. Quran 4:157 ,which states :”wama qataluhu yaqina (they never killed Jesus for certain) “,remains absolute truth that even mithraist christian scholars have been in disagreement as to whether or not Jesus died on the cross. See Bart Erhman’s works and that of Helen Ellerbe on the myth of crucifixion of Jesus on divergent views on the subject.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
It is just waste of time for mithraist christians trying to sell this stupidity -by hook or crook -that God descended so low appearing in human image and was killed for him to save. Quran 4:157 ,which says :”wama qataluhu yaqina (they did not kill Jesus for certain) “,remains absolute truth as mithraist christians are in disagreement as to whether or not Jesus died on the cross. see Bart Erhman’s works and that of Helen Ellerbe on the myth of crucifixion.
gravenimage says
I see that Ibrahim itace muhammed is just wildly spamming at this point. He does this whenever he becomes especially enraged–which is very common.
tim gallagher says
This removing the crucifix from the photo of Selena Gomez, although a minor and fairly trivial example of the intolerance which Islam endlessly displays towards anything which is not Islamic, just makes me think, as I often do, that the tolerance we, in the West, show towards Muslims (despite the endless bleating by those perennial “victims”, the Muslims, about the “islamophobia” they face) is all one way. Our tolerance towards intolerant, totalitarian Islam is ridiculous. We should have zero tolerance towards intolerant Islam and keep Muslims out of our countries. I don’t believe Muslims, always so intolerant of non-Muslims, deserve to be tolerated by us at all. The western way of life tends to be pretty tolerant. For example, we can get along pretty well with Buddhists and we are able to tolerate one another quite well. With most Muslims, their intolerant mind set makes this impossible. Our politicians should recognise this. We shouldn’t put up with their garbage and we should keep them out of our countries.
FYI says
Nothing good comes from the false,intolerant creed of islam.
It has to be said of allah that he is indeed k3:54 the “best of deceivers”: for he has deceived millions of muslims with his commandment-of-God violating unholy koran and his mass-murdering,psycopathic,self-confessed false prophet muhammed{al tabari 6;111} into thinking that he is..God ,when in fact he is an evil counterfeit.
allah the best of deceivers:the god of hate and violence.islam attracts the evil.