I called the RSPCA to debate them about their Twitter response to the image. They have stated on Twitter that it’s okay to slaughter animals in your backyard so long as it’s for your own consumption. Now whoever is eating the amount of meat that is being slaughtered in that picture must be a glutton.
I asked them if they investigated to see if the meat was being shared with family or friends. They told me they hadn’t, and yet their statement says you can kill an animal so long as it’s for your own consumption. Words do have meanings. At no point did the RSPCA investigate who the meat was for, and and at no time did they inquire as to whether or not the animal was stunned prior to being killed.
I asked the RSPCA representative, “What if I live in the flat above these slaughterers and I’m sickened or afraid by the sight of the blood or the pieces of flesh lying around, or the smell?”
He told me, “That’s a matter to take up with your local council. Nothing to do with RSPCA.” The local council is investigating over hygiene issues. The Sun article revealing that fact contains this: “Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, insisted the family had done nothing wrong in practising their religion.”
It’s also interesting to note that when you call RSPCA, they have a special number you press for certain towns and cities in the UK, ones that are predominantly Muslim and known for halal slaughter. These are Huddersfield, Halifax, Rochdale, West Bradford, Blackburn, Eastleigh, and Burnley.
Jay says
England is lost! Churchill is flipping in his grave today! Coming to an American city soon if
liberal progressive open border traitors ever get back in the White House! Keep America sovereign!!????????
Kerris says
100% right, sadly. 🙁
Frank Scarn says
Get ready for a new round of hypocrisy and double standards.
WPM says
So if I want to kill and butcher a horse in my backyard in full view of the street {living on a corner house it is ok in England? I guess the entrails, hovers and bones would be minor things for the local garbage men{call dushbin men in England }.The smell of old blood left on the sidewalk after slaughter is ok with local authorities .The screaming of the animal as I cut its throat and let it bleed to death by Islamic law? I could claim to have a large freezer to freeze all the meat for future use. Were are those fascist animal lovers Peta on this? They love to tell us non-Moslem meat eaters , and fur wearers that meat is murder ,when the process is done in a more humane way.
wycombewanderer says
the law is quite clear, there are no circumstances in which religious home slaughter could satisfy those laws. the animal must be your own, on your own property, it cant leave that property and must be consumed there, The animal must be stunned before bleeding either by a free bullet for which you would need a foiirearms licence and would commit an ofence if discharged at proximity to others and on anothers properety, or a percussion stum instrument for which you need firstly training to use and a slaughterman licence to use, every single authority in the country has this on there websites regarding home slaughter.
Religious slaughter therefore can only take place in a licenced slaughter house and by a licenced slaughterman, again the law is quite clear, religious slaughter may onluyy take place there if the animal iis to be consumed by followers of that religion it would be illegal to enter the food chain if it were to be consumed by non believers.
I spoke to a slaughter man years ago, he said quite clearly the rules are ignored to reduce the costs of halal meat, half of the animal would be thrown out as under religious slaughter even tpo a muslim onluy the front part between the heart and the cut is considered haram(allowed) so the rest would have to be discarded. @ABumfluff
Luxury says
Halal is permitted. Haram is not permitted.
Bob Allen says
The RSPCA is a disgrace to the name. We need to get rid and form a new CARING society.
Jacqui says
I absolutely agree !!
About 6 years ago I phoned them about some horses in a small field with absolutely no shelter ! Left hungry most of the time .. an old guy use to bring a bag of rolls at the end of the day that he got that hadn’t been sold ( they weren’t his horses) they were in that field through the most terrible weather it was so upsetting lots of people had reported it ..still nothing happened .. hurricane winds and below freezing temperatures!!!
I would lay in bed worrying about them . Then one terrible freezing winters day I drove past with my daughter it was pouring with rain the horses were on the ground not moving I really thought they were dead I made her stop and went over to the fence and called them … they were still alive but were struggling! One tried to stand and it managed to get to its feet but was shaking … it broke my heart ! I phoned the RSPCA I WAS SO UPSET TELLING THEM GET SONEONE THERE FAST I was crying and calling to the horses helps coming babies hold on there !!!
I had to go because we were on the way to the Royal Marsden I hahad an appointment and was now late , but was sure the RSPCA would be there shortly, I had asked them to update me and gave my number !!!!
‼️NOTHING HAPPENED ‼️
they did zilch ❗️
I tried and tried to call and find out what was happening about it but no one could tell me .. I was disgusted !!
The horses lived only to endure at least another winter there with no help !!!
I moved but often worried about those poor babies !!
Then about 6 mths after I had reported all this and tried to find out what they were doing ! I got a call from them ! I thought it was finally a bit of goo news …. err NO they used my number to beg donations off me as an animal lover that had called in !!!
Still couldn’t tell me anything about the horses … well I told them where to go ! Those poor horses so many people had reported about and they FID NOTHING ‼️‼️‼️
Disgusted ‼️‼️‼️
gravenimage says
This is a terrible story, Jacqui.
MSW says
At Eid, they don’t slaughter for meat, e.g. eat it. They slaughter for fun.
Yohanan says
The message for neighbors is seasons greetings. New Britain needs to get used to it. As a world bank survey noted: “Home slaughter is normal practice in some countries and is almost universal for certain holidays, festivals, and other special occasions.”
Besides animal welfare aspects, UK’s medical, veterinary, waste management rules for slaughterhouses and abbatoirs might be relevant?
To the urban apartment building, Happy holidays!
Yokel says
I fear it is also a useful training ground for future [Islamic] executioners. Gets the youngsters used to slaughter, sticking the knife in, screams from the animal, and much blood all around. Some descriptions that I have read of ritual slaughter at home describe the animal as being almost decapitated.
Can’t think what might go wrong. Can you?
gravenimage says
Yes–there are horrible videos of Muslim toddlers being encouraged to cut the throats of teddy bears and other stuffed animals. One even had a helpful adult pour out a cup of red punch “blood” beneath the toy to give it a bit of sickening realism. *Ugh*.
R Russell says
Yohanan
The RSPCA is not a UK charity, nor a GB charity, it is and England and Wales charity only
paul says
is that your sole comment to islamic occurrences in the UK? to defend the rspca? England and Wales are in the UK believe it or not.
gravenimage says
Yes–this seems to be missing the point.
Carol the 1st says
Maybe the SPCA should lengthen its name to SPCANTI:
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals NOT TAKEN by ISLAM?
StellaSaidSo says
The RSPCA was bought off years ago by the Muslims.
gravenimage says
I think it was more bought off by dhimmi tools, Stella.
Yohanan says
“Home slaughter is normal practice in some countries and is almost universal for certain holidays,
festivals, and other special occasions.” New Britain, get used to it. Forget your medical, veterinarian, waste management, zoning, animal welfare rules. And HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
CogitoErgoSum says
They say you can slaughter an animal if it’s for your own consumption. To me that means the only one allowed to eat the meat is the person who slaughtered it. Of course, that is impossible to enforce unless you keep track at all times of who eats the meat.
My guess from taking a quick look at the food safety standards is that the person doing the slaughtering needs a license or a certificate issued to him in order to slaughter an animal legally. If I saw this going on near my residence, I would call the proper authorities and ask them to check on it.
Yokel says
If I saw this going on near my residence, I would call the proper authorities and ask them to check on it.
See the original article from The Sun, where you will read : “Barking and Dagenham Council said it was investigating.” The are the “proper authorities”.
If you do an internet search by the Council name, and then search inside the Council’s web site for the key word “Councillor” you will end up on this page:
https://modgov.lbbd.gov.uk/internet/mgMemberIndex.aspx
which contains names, mugshots and party affiliations of the Councillors.
What are the chances that all their “investigating” will conclude “nothing to see here, move along now”?
CogitoErgoSum says
Holy cow! Ha! I had no idea. It’s not actually funny though, is it? When Robert Spencer first said the UK is lost, I thought he must be exaggerating. But the picture is getting clearer to me every day. Your British leaders have given away your country and your culture with hardly a struggle. Now you are being told to lie back and relax; you may even enjoy being raped. God help you.
Yokel says
When Robert Spencer first said the UK is lost, I thought he must be exaggerating.
When Robert Spencer first said the UK is lost, I was angry, “How dare he” type angry.
Then I started paying proper attention, not just looking at what is going on in my rather civilised locality. With opened eyes I now wonder why it took me so long to realise that Robert was right. I must have been blind, wilfully self blinded!
Your British leaders have given away your country and your culture with hardly a struggle.
They didn’t even struggle. They seem to believe it is essential for their (or perhaps the country’s) benefit. And the difference across the major parties is only of degree. Voting, with our “first past the post” system, will make little difference. They are completely out of touch with the population (except their recent gimmegrants).
Anne Smith says
We haven’t given away our country. We have always had tolerance and fair play here. Our laws are based on it. The immigrants have used our laws against us quite cleverly, and have infiltrated all our organisations, especially the BBC and education.
Whilst we have leant over backwards to ensure everyone is dealt with fairly and all are given a fair crack of the whip, once they have total charge things will become very different. The you might begin to see a bit of push back, but it will be too late. The cry of “racist” has cowed all but the most well informed and determined opponents of this take over.
Unfortunately we have a very Islamophiliac Prime Minister in Mrs May, who is determined to ensure that Sharia law, banking and property rules are accepted all over the country.
WPM says
to Yokel Thanks
From your information from the profiles, names ,and pictures I would say half of them are butchering animals in their backyards, apartment bathrooms, rooftops for the happy Moslem holidays. The other 25 percent suffer from white guilt the other 25 percent could careless .
Yokel says
And all of the the Councillors (one exception) are Labour Party members. For non-Brits, Labour are currently hard left with many senior posts filled by people believed to be ex-communists. The party is currently having a problem with anti-Semitism.
1. It isn’t very good for democracy when one single party holds a 50:1 majority.
2. Even if the Councillor isn’t of the home slaughtering fraternity, their Labour Party seems to think that unfettered immigration of that fraternity will give their party a majority of votes. Much the same thinking as seems to characterise the US Democratic Party.
DHazard says
“Wife number 2, what are we having for dinner tonight?”
“The cow I brought home last week.”
“But we can’t possibly eat all of it and our freezer isn’t big enough.”
“We’ll sell it to the Jewish deli. Halal, Kosher, what’s the difference?”
“The difference is that the Council wouldn’t allow the Jewish deli owner to kill a cow in his backyard.
“Why him and not us?”
“Because we’re Muslim and are protected by the guilt and public image concerns of the kafirs.”
Renate says
Why stop at the 7th century? Why not go all the way back to the caveman days and have men walk around wearing loincloths and carrying clubs to beat women over the head with so they can drag them back to their caves? If we’re going to go barbaric, let’s do this thing!!!
CogitoErgoSum says
No, no, we can’t do that. Going that far back would be considered the days of ignorance. The only period of time that matters begins when Muhammad first started preaching Islam. The time period before that is called Jahiliyyah or Age of Ignorance. It’s a period best forgotten and that’s one of the reasons ISIS destroyed so many ancient artifacts in the land that fell under their control. Yep, those guys are real Einsteins.
Renate says
You’re right. We can’t have Jahilliyyah now can we? Whatever was I thinking?!
CogitoErgoSum says
🙂
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
I thought SPCA’s the world over existe to protect animals from cruelty. That’s what the acronym stands for: Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. Ritual slaughter is cruel. There are ample videos online that can prove that, so there’s no viable argument to the contrary.
If they’ve made exceptions for halal slaughter then they’ve accepted the nullification of the reason for their existence. They should just close down their office and go home.
StellaSaidSo says
‘Halal slaughter’ was the thin end of the sharia wedge.
The SPCA’s were all bought off years ago by the Muslims and their enablers – getting approval for Halal slaughter involved first neutralising the opposition.
Throughout the West, abattoirs are now increasingly manned, if not owned, by Muslims.
And ‘Halal certification’ is a scam, a money tree for the jihad.
The sooner we take decisive action against this barbarism the better.
Savvy Kafir says
I agree, Stella. It sickens me to see so many of my (alledged) fellow progressives look the other way whenever it’s the precious God-damn Muslims who are inflicting savagery upon helpless animals. There is no excuse for this spineless, soulless pandering to the barbarians living among us.
Carol the 1st says
And it defiles and tramples upon what we believe in as a people in our own country and culture. It is a nasty insult to cultural natives and it will breed rightful anger and resentment toward muslims and the disunited, characterless “authorities”. who prefer to pander to their backward filth.
Karlee says
Ask them this question: By their own logic, anyone can bleed out any live animal in their backyard if the intent is to eat it, may it be a dog, cat, horse…
gravenimage says
Just what I was thinking, Karlee.
Karlee says
It’s creating a precedent for killing animals and pets without going through costly veterinary euthanasia. The College of Vets should start looking into this for their own benefit.
gravenimage says
It’s a precedent for all sorts of horrific cruelty.
StellaSaidSo says
Karlee, I don’t know of any law that says that only a vet can euthanase an animal. Provided unnecessary cruelty is avoided, pet and livestock owners can kill their animals.
It is the unnecessary cruelty that is the issue, not the legality of the killing.
Kepha says
My parents-in-law, along with many others in their country, used to slaughter their own chickens; and they were not Muslims. In the USA, we have the decision of Church of the Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, FL upholding the right of members of a Cuban-American Santeria cult to perform animal sacrifices.
If halal slaughter and an Eid sacrifice performed behind a fence were all there were to offbeat Muslim practices, I wouldn’t complain.
Carol the 1st says
When you slaughter a chicken you chop off its head. PERIOD. It’s a small animal and the cruelty does not get unnecessarily dragged out. And if some “Church” somewhere is possibly allowed to uphold some Santeria cult sacrifice then more’s the pity.
A practice by any other name than “halal slaughter” or “Eid” would stink to high heaven just as much. Besides being cruel and terrifying to a sensate creature, It is also an indiscreet infringement on all neighboring humans and it deserves loud “complaint” and to be given the boot.
gravenimage says
UK: RSPCA says it’s okay to kill animals in your garden so long as it’s for your own consumption
………………………
This is *just horrifying*. When I was a child, I first learned of the RSPCA being the great founding humane society, and looked to them for setting the standards for all others, like the American SPCA.
Now they are rolling over for Islamic savagery. Just sickening.
Savvy Kafir says
It really is disgusting. For the politically correct, the suffering of anyone and any creature is acceptable if Muslim sensibilities require it. The world has gone insane.
gravenimage says
All too true.
Benedict says
Yeah, they will try to justify what the Muslim is doing is right, so they are another hypocritical organization that is out to please the Muslims, since they are getting large donations from them
gravenimage says
I doubt animal hating Muslims are making any donations to the RSPCA, Benedict. This is pure “political correctness”.
StellaSaidSo says
You are wrong, GI.
Many animal welfare organisations received generous donations from sources not too distant from the Saudis around the time that halal slaughter was being approved.
gravenimage says
Stella, I have worked with a number of humane groups and have *never* heard of Muslim donations, from the Saudis or anyone else. I also tried Googling this, and found nothing.
If you have any links, I’d be interested.
StellaSaidSo says
Of course you won’t have heard of such donations. The likes of the Muslim Brotherhood are much too clever for that. You won’t know which local councillors got a fat paper bag before the mosque approval went through, either. But everyone knows how Islam does business. It is no coincidence that every significant animal welfare organisation in the West has failed to raise more than a whisper of protest on the matter of Halal slaughter.
gravenimage says
I suppose this is not impossible, Stella. But I find it hard to imagine that Muslims are donating to organizations that help “unclean” dogs.
I think this has more to do with “political correctness” than being paid off.
Rolf Wittwer says
Many members of “the only one religion” of our Planet falling in extasy, when they can slaughter animals, praising rivers of blood, smelling it and sending happy greetings – “Allah-u-Akbar”!
MUST THE WHOLE WORLD ACCEPT THIS FOREVER?
gravenimage says
You aren’t kidding about rivers of blood, Rolf:
“Rivers of blood flow on streets of Dhaka after Eid animal sacrifices”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/14/rivers-of-blood-dhaka-bangladesh-eid-animal-sacrifices
TWG says
Something to ponder……
Here in Montana, U.S.A., as well as every other State in this Nation, we have laws on the books protecting home slaughter and consumption of livestock. If I raise cows and chickens and pigs and rabbits, it is entirely within my right to slaughter those animals on my property, as well as for my Family to consume it. I’m also going to share it with others. But I can’t sell it. As the article says, one must be licensed, in a licensed facility, blah blah blah…. because we cannot allow questionable food products into our food chain. There is absolutely no control over what I do on my own farm when I kill that animal. I might not be knowledgable about even basic food safety issues, and could sell to the public meat not properly refrigerated, etc…… Maybe my kitchen has dirty diapers and rotten food sitting all over the counters where I butcher the meat that I want to sell…. (Ugh)
But even here in Montana, with laws protecting that right, it wouldn’t be lawful to butcher live animals in a densely populated area, such as in the photo above. I believe it may even be prohibited “within the city limits” of any area. Because “city limits” are not “Agricultural” areas.
The moslems are, in most cases, (illegally) stealing the animals, they’re inhumanely (illegally) slaughtering them, they’re (illegally) butchering them on their porch in full view of their horrified neighbors, and most likely (illegally) selling the meat to their fellow jihadis.
The UK Government agencies responsible for food safety and agriculture are highly unlikely to care enough to do anything about it. They don’t wish to offend their new masters.
…………..hoping the crocodiles will eat them last.
TWG says
……. or maybe said butcher is a moslem who still wipes it’s ass with it’s left hand.
Carol the 1st says
Good, informative post. Thanks.
gravenimage says
We have just now adopted two kittens, who are under my desk right now exploring–they’ve been home for about a half hour. We’ll introduce them to our other cats tomorrow once they are a bit more acclimated.
We waited a while before getting new cats after losing the last of our 17-year-olds a couple of months ago.
It is impossible not to think about how much cruelty is inflicted on animals by Muslims while seeing these sweet guys playing.
Carol the 1st says
IMO we are not “different” from animals – we are on a continuum with them. We can easily choose to practice more kindness. Muslims are DESENSITIZING THEMSELVES and their children by such practices.
Manny says
What an outrage. To allow a backward people to immigrate and then allow their primitive mores to run amok with the country is a disgrace. England used to be the most sophisticated country in the world. It’s now a semi third world country.
Carol the 1st says
It seems to have been “given away” by those good at compromising their own people.
KWJ says
That should not be allowed in an apartment complex exposed to all those windows. Some Muslims in California tried that with a goat in an apartment complex and the complex does not allow that. People seem to think that freedom to practice your religion also means you can do whatever you want but people have a right for public decency, noise ordinances (no one should have to listen to calls to prayer 5x a day and so early) and public health.
To know an animal’s throat is being cut and to listen to it dying should not be allowed. How callous and selfish Muslims can be. Go to a farm at the very least. If you haven’t seen the animals struggle then just picture a person sawing a human’s neck with a knife. They think the more an animal suffers, the better the meat…struggling releases more hormones, they think.
It’s disgusting to see this photo. Islam has a number of disgusting things. Kosher meat same thing.
Felix Quigley says
Actually science wise we can make real meat NOW. This will be perfected. In future Communism no animal will be killed for eating.
Marco says
Soylent Green…….
gravenimage says
Impossible burger and beyond meat come to mind. Not “Soylent Green”–just soy and other veggie products.
Martin says
The RSPCA should have their charitable status revoked unless they are prepared to prosecute them for cruelty to animals
utis says
I know Mohammed demanded that his followers not imitate kufr practices (hence no Mother’s Day for 21st century muslims). I can’t think of anything more pagan than sacrificing animals to a god. Any god who wants animals cruelly slaughtered for his pleasure is a detestable god. The argument that these actions are just a way to have a party, and the meat will all be eaten is just a liberal academic excuse. Modern people do not have to kill to eat meat. None of the sheikhs or imams would accept surgery on themselves without anesthesia, just because it’s modern. Or nuclear weapons.
I completely agree with readers who mention this mass slaughter is practice for jihad on humans: if you can slaughter a helpless furry creature, what stops you from killing evil kufr?
TWG says
Utis
“…… if you can slaughter a helpless furry creature, what stops you from killing evil kufr?”
Same goes for advocates of the baby slaughtering mega-chains. They have no trouble whatsoever with murdering innocent babies. There is no doubt they’d eagerly support genocide for opponents of their killing machine. (In fact, many of them have expressed those desires for us all.)
Paul says
Contact the social housing provider and complain.
A standard clause will be not make a nuisance to your neighbours.
Don’t just write to them in one letter and forget. Contact the housing department, the maintenance people, the managing director and all the board members.
In this case I would suggest he is running an illegal business. Thats just one reason he loses his tenancy.
Paul
Carol the 1st says
Sue them for traumatizing your children while you’re at it.
Mr Paul Thomas says
It is not done humanely if animals are killed under Halal slaughter, it is a fact that the animal suffers pain long after its carotid artery is cut, there are arteries within its spinal column feeding blood to its brain that cannot be severed with a neck cut. Therefore the animal is still alive and in pain.
Secondly, slaughtering animals in your back garden is not hygienic, this is why we have food preparation area covered by strict food hygiene legislation, from farm to plate processes. This is the RSPCA not wanting to get involved in the religious argument of animal slaughter. The RSPCA are not only cowards but do not live up the the code of practice they teach in animal welfare. I would have banned and prosecuted all those involved in back garden animal slaughter. You are nothing but cowards RSPCA.
gravenimage says
+1
Jon M Montgomerie, Warrington says
This has got to be bollocks – how does the RSPCA’s response square with the legal requirement for stunning before slaughter? What, they’re assuming you have stunning equipment in your back garden but just forgot to mention that?!?
The exemption for un-stunned slaughter (which shouldn’t exist any way!) is for religious purposes at licenced slaughter houses, not for people at home. The RSPCA need to be taken to task for this policy.
Mark says
The whole thing is a utterly outrageous…. . Filthy barbaric and disgusting… Next thing will be it is OK boil or skin live dogs as long as you are chinese. The RSPCA won’t mind as long as you make a big enough donation…
The RSPCA and the government are spinless and useless….
You can do what you like as long as you are not British…..
Tom says
Try killing a cat in your back yard and see if it is ok. I bet you will be charged with cruelty to an animal.
My first question in this particular case would be why are they allowed to keep livestock in a residential backyard for the purpose of slaughter ? Second question would be where is the public health inspector who should be concerned with the health aspect of the slaughter and disposal.
Someone has certainly dropped the ball on this one.
imwithstoopid says
And another day in Mr. Ramahams neighborhood wouldja be my neighbor?
gravenimage says
Grimly amusing. We know what kind of neighbors Muslims typically make.
Prabh says
It’s not just islamics who kill animals in this manner – orthodox xtians sometimes do the same. Desert religions have a very limited idea of what constitutes the Divine. Captain Vadakayil points out Dharmic religions never ritually killed animals prior to colonial era. On some topics Vadakayil is wrong (such as history of northern regions of India – he is Kerala centric) but he is right about this. Dharmic paths condemn all forms of cruelty to animals – the idea of buying and selling animals is abhorrent – as human beings evolve I expect to see an end to buying and selling of animals.
Who can ever associate the word “garden” with killing and bloodshed? Only demons would be ritually torturing animals to death in their garden.
When I hear the word garden, I think of flowers, herbs, fruits and vegetables – I think of a romantic setting for reading, writing, meditation, for al fresco dining and enjoying good conversation with loved ones.
I told my beloved mother about this story and she says there will be a revolution. I hope she is right