It’s noteworthy that AP would carry this story at all; certainly neither AP nor the rest of the establishment media is ever so solicitous of those whom they smear as “anti-Muslim” to allow us to tell our side of the story. But the imam Siraj Wahhaj is here engaging in some “war is deceit” action. His son was on the radar of counterterror officials for 13 years on suspicion of jihad activity. He was training school shooters. But of course, it’s all because of journalists who supposedly hate Islam and Muslims.
Ever the victim.
“The Latest: Compound incident called anti-Muslim propaganda,” Associated Press, August 10, 2018 (thanks to the Geller Report):
TAOS, N.M. (AP) — The Latest on 11 children found living in a filthy, makeshift compound in New Mexico (all times local):
4 p.m.
A representative of a New York mosque says the raid of a ramshackle compound in New Mexico is being used as propaganda against Muslims.
Ali Abdul-Karim Judan, a spokesman for the mosque, said in a video posted Thursday on Facebook that the incident was a domestic situation that has nothing to do with extremism.
The grandfather of a severely disabled boy, who authorities say was kidnapped by his father and taken to the compound, has said remains found there are those of his grandson.
The man is an imam at the New York mosque.
Judan also cast doubt on a contention by prosecutors that children found at the site were being trained to use assault rifles in preparation for school shootings.
He said authorities should not have made that claim without stronger evidence.
The mosque has attracted radicals over the years, including a man who later helped bomb the World Trade Center in 1993….
somehistory says
Sane and informed people do “hate islam.” it’s entirely and thoroughly hateable. It is deserving of hate and does not deserve respect, honor, love, or liking. it deserves hate and it deserves destruction.
islam makes monsters of humans. islam makes murderers, rapists and child abusers.
islam makes terrorists and liars. islam is no good and never has been. islam is evil. And sane, knowledgeable people hate it.
Logic&Reason says
Yep. It’s all about the “software” running on the brain. No one’s born thinking that way.
We need an Islam 2.0 across the board….but how can something deemed “perfect” (a claim which is defended via divinely-ordained murder) be upgraded/improved upon?
History has demonstrated that there have always been enough true Islamists to keep the horror show going.
I wonder if we’ll ever see enough so-called peaceful/moderate Muslims organize, unite, and succeed in a reformation update. Otherwise, the nonsense will continue…..
Terry Gain says
Islam can’t be reformed. it needs to be shunned and quarantined. Islam can’t survive the truth. Tell the truth about Islam. Be as resolute in telling the truth about Islam as Muslims are in lying about it.
mortimer says
Terry is correct: Islam was canonized finally in 1111AD and the ‘Doors’ of theological development of the doctrines WERE CLOSED.
It is BLASPHEMOUS to call for REFORM of Islam, because it is consider ALREADY ‘perfect, eternal and complete’.
Such a call for reform would be met with a call for execution for the blasphemer.
granddaddy says
True. To reform Islam would acquired that it be totally dismantled. But then, it would be another religion. That’s assuming it’s a religion at all.
Andy says
CBC omits KEY fact in terrorist training camp story
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4ehAa3THWE
Giacomo Latta says
”Imam wants everyone to be Muslim.” Well, there are two ways to go about it. One is be friendly and inviting to the cause and the other is to kill all non-Muslims thus rending everyone a Muslim. The koran is quite clear as to which is the preferred choice among Muslims. Even with all the talk about imams I still don’t recall hearing the ”i” word.
gravenimage says
There is also forced conversion at sword-point, Giacomo.
gravenimage says
+1
mortimer says
35 FACTS about Islam that are HATABLE and unacceptable:
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate 33 Hatred of non-Muslims as an essential doctrine 34 History of Islam includes the genocidal murders of 270 million non-Muslims in Islamic holy wars, terrorism, persecutions and enslavement directed against non-Muslims.
mortimer says
35. Holy books of Islam contain more violence than all other foundational religious texts.
mgoldberg says
And all of these are actually turned around and explained as the good things of Mohammeds teaching by muslims
gravenimage says
Grimly true, mgoldberg.
mortimer says
It isn’t a ‘CRIME’ when JIHADI-TERRORISTS DO IT.
How dare the dirty kufaar journalists criticize JIHAD-TERRORISM !!!
Allah commands Muslims to HATE the DIRTY KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allah’, but KAFIRS who resent being slaughtered are BLASPHEMERS who resist Islam.
KAFIRS have ‘it’ coming to them, because they do not worship Allah ‘correctly’ … incorrect worship deserves persecution, extortion, rape, crucifixion and slaughter.
(… according to discriminatory Sharia law)
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer. This is how pious Muslims see it.
J D S says
What kind of people would want to be a part of the most hated peoples and religion (???) In the whole western world…Well maybe our so called leaders are in step and in love with that group of people.
STRANGE!!!
Andy says
Yes, I do hate Islam.
White Privelege – The Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0-iTUPtI9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iYKBpRO9s0&t=2s
gravenimage says
Thanks, Andy–very good video. One small caveat–I think this has more to do with European culture and values–and the other nations around the world like the US, Canada, and Australia based on these values–than on being white per se.
And, as noted, anyone can adopt this culture and thrive–Japan being the most obvious but not only example. But even today, much of the world rejects these values, with the predictable chaos and stagnation–the Muslim world most of all.
Michael says
Agree 1000%
jihad3tracker says
AH YES — USING THE 10 FUNCTIONING BRAIN CELLS IN HIS SKULL, TO RAISE A DEFENSE THAT IS UTTERLY MORONIC.
We can depend on this eminent religious man to keep inserting himself into that huge mess.
Truly sincere, devout Allah-worshippers are, in the vast majority, so family-inbred for generations that their IQ’s peg at amoeba level.
(Amoeba lovers please pardon my insult to those noble organisms.)
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Dutch anti-immigrant politician takes own life after claiming rape by ‘Muslim gang’”
https://www.rt.com/news/435609-willie-dille-muslim-rape/
gravenimage says
Well, this is just horrifying. Do you know anything more about this case?
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This is the first time I had heard of it. (Although a poster, “Sun,” had posted the news under an earlier article.) It was headlined by RT but I have not seen it anywhere else.
This story just breaks my heart. When a state fails to protect women and children then that state is doomed. The Dutch establishment should hang its collective head in shame.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Flavius. Jihad Watch is now covering this awful story, here:
“Netherlands: Former MP commits suicide, says she was gang-raped by Muslims who asked, ‘Do you respect Allah?’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/08/netherlands-former-mp-commits-suicide-says-she-was-gang-raped-by-muslims-who-asked-do-you-respect-alla
Gwendolyn E Mugliston says
I have no love for Islam. It is a dangerous cult that prays on the weaknesses of human beings. It is vengeful, hate filled, and selectively causes men to search for prey such a women and girls and those that are not Muslim. The men in turn are not trained to think logically and dispassionately. If they were, there would be no Islam and no Muslims on enraged insanity filing their lives with murder and mayhem. It is a disgusting cult.
Michael says
For me Islam is ok while staying where from where they come. In Arabia.
We can’t build or spread Christian faith neither in so called medern Turkey, so let them build mosques there while we’ll put Christ on our schools and public offices. Despite their opposition.
James Lincoln says
Islam is evil – and I hate evil.
SK says
No, reporters in AP trend liberal. They are very likely to have fond views of your religion, even if you don’t compare it with their view of Christianity. This is 2018.
Today, it’s not everyone else’s fault that a Muslim family chose to kidnap the kids and take them to a compound and train them to shoot people.
gravenimage says
Very true. SK. In fact, much of the MSM has been at pains to downplay the central role of Islam in this story.
Of course, if the Imam had his way, this story not only would not have been covered by anyone, but none of this savagery would be criminalized.
Norger says
This strikes me as one of those instances where the veil has been ripped off and as this plays out,the MSM and law enforcement may be forced to publicly acknowledge some uncomfortable truths about mainstream Islamic theology. We can only hope.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Op-Ed: “Decision to bring White Helmets to Canada dangerous and criminal”
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/435670-white-helmets-canada-syria/
gravenimage says
Yes. All too many in the West believe that the White Helmets are a feel good story about a rescue group–but they have strong links to Al Qaida, and are much darker than most understand.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This op-ed is more like a report; it’s full facts and information.
gravenimage says
Thanks.
Sun says
Great Britain, Germany and the Netherlands offer them as well a new home – no big background checks, no need to apply for asylum. They call it humanity.
Lydia Church says
This imam is training children to be school shooters… and he wonders why people hate islam???
Can it get any dumber?!
gravenimage says
He’s just hoping that people will back off due to the fear of being considered “Islamophobic”.
gravenimage says
Video: Imam whose son was training school shooters hits reporters on New Mexico compound: “they hate Islam”
…………………………..
The Muslims running this compound was involved in training children to murder Infidel schoolchildren, in starving children, and in the death–likely murder–of at least one child.
If this is Islam, then we have every reason to hate it.
Buraq says
“You can fool some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.”
Clowns! The truth will out, and it won’t be pretty!
JAT 349 says
Never forget and always remember this has nothing to with islam.
IQ al Rassooli says
Whenever Muslims are caught in their usual acts of violence and depravity, they claim ‘anti Islam Hate’ when in Fact and in Reality~
For those Americans and others who still do not or are unwilling to understand Muslims and Islam, let me enlighten you in very short but deadly un challengeable conclusions:
1. No Muslim can ever be BOTH a Good Muslim and a Loyal citizen among non Muslims/ Kuffar/ Infidels (just watch what is happening in every European country that invited Muslims)
2. Because Muslims follow Allah’s Sharia, every Muslim is automatically the Eternal and Mortal ENEMY of every human being who is NOT a Muslim (80% of current humanity)
3. Since Allah is NOT God (NOT the same as the God of the Bible), Islam is therefore NOT a Religion but a Cult belief system; the Cult of Muhammad
$100,00 says there is not a single human being on planet Earth who can prove me WRONG!
Any challengers willing to lose $100,000 when they fail?
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
mortimer says
When Muslims play the victim card, claiming to be victims of ‘HATE’, it is merely PSYCHOLOGICAL PROJECTION.
Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending oneself against unpleasant, immature or neurotic impulses by denying their existence in oneself, while attributing them to others. For example, a person who is rude may accuse other people of being rude.
Muslim apologists attribute to ‘others’ all the immoral traits they find reprehensible in themselves and which are sacralized in the Koran, Sira and hadiths.
pemba says
Just shave of his shabby bears and use him as a target practice.
Indiana Tom says
He needs to be in the Polar Bear Petting Encounter.
Norger says
The good imam was hinting yesterday that this was “mental illness.” I guess he realized how implausible it was to claim that his three children were all suddenly inflicted with “mental illness” at the same time, so he’s going with the tried and true “they’re out to get Islam” defense.
gravenimage says
Yes, Norger–I noted this contradiction, as well.
Jay says
Yeah, so I hate islam. What’s your point.
abu taleb says
If the non muslims don’t like what the muslims do to the non muslims such as imposing jizyah, rob, kill, insult and molest non muslims then the non muslims are called “hate Islam”, “Islamophobia”, oppress the muslims etc.
Why? Because the good muslims think that doing such things to non muslims is actually beneficial for the non muslims not to mention the muslims get plenty of rewards from their allah, and also, get some material gain from those activities like money, slaves etc.
That is the true Islam
gravenimage says
I don’t think that Muslims so much consider this brutality beneficial to Infidels as they believe they deserve it.
abu taleb says
The good and pious muslims may say that by enslaving (and other stuffs to) non muslims, the non muslims will be forced to become muslims, therefore the non muslims will get benefits from the harsh treatment. Also, if muslims kill non muslims, then the non muslims will receive less severe punishment in hell because they had done lesser amount of sins in the world.
ISIS rapists said that their victims should be grateful for becoming sex slaves and being raped because they had the highest status available among the non believers.
We really have to be thankful to the muslims if they kill, rape, rob us. (my sarcasm)
https://islamqa.info/en/21961
… The kuffaar whom we fight will themselves benefit from jihad. We strive against them and fight them so that they will enter the religion of Allaah which is acceptable to Him, which will lead to their salvation in this world and in the Hereafter.
Indiana Tom says
I am Anti-Islamic and hate Islam. So what?
All it is a Jihad Religion that worships Satan.
Quit kowtowing to the PC crowd as they are a bunch of Communists and Fascists anyway.
Yes, Mussolini did prove you could be both Communist and Fascist.
Come to think of it, Islam possibly would fall into the same spectrum of political thuggery.
Linde Barrera says
Attention! Ali Abdul-Karim Judan and all imams. I HATE ISLAM. To me, IT IS AN IDEOLOGY OF HATE, DECEIPT AND FALSE DOCTRINES. In my opinion, Allah=Satan the Devil. In the Quran Allah is called “the best of deceivers, the best of plotters.” However, I DO NOT HATE MUSLIMS. Get over yourselves.
The Free Thinker says
One cannot make any reasonable comment on islam without being labeled as a racist or “islamaphobe.” So much for freedom of thought and freedom of speech…
granddaddy says
Okay. If it’s not what they say is, then what is it? Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood?
Norger says
Here are a couple of quotes from the good imam that I found in a quick Google search:
“If we go to war, brothers and sisters – and one day we will, believe me – that’s why you’re commanded [to fight] in jihad. When Allah demands us to fight, we’re not stopping and nobody’s stopping us.”
“Those who struggle for Allah, it doesn’t matter what kind of weapons, I’m telling you it doesn’t matter! You don’t need nuclear weapons or even guns! If you have faith in Allah and a knife!! If Allah wants you to win, you will win! Because Allah is the only one who fights. And when his hand is over your hand. whoe“Those who struggle for Allah, it doesn’t matter what kind of weapons, I’m telling you it doesn’t matter! You don’t need nuclear weapons or even guns! If you have faith in Allah and a knife!! If Allah wants you to win, you will win! Because Allah is the only one who fights. And when his hand is over your hand. whoever is at war against my friends, I declare war on them”
https://www.religiousfreedomcoalition.org/2012/01/18/muslim-children-in-america-are-being-taught-to-hate/
So many refuse to see what is staring them in the face.
Norger says
With apologies for butchering the second quote, here’s the corrected version:
Those who struggle for Allah, it doesn’t matter what kind of weapons, I’m telling you it doesn’t matter! You don’t need nuclear weapons or even guns! If you have faith in Allah and a knife!! If Allah wants you to win, you will win! Because Allah is the only one who fights. And when his hand is over your hand. whoever is at war against my friends, I declare war on them”
Using children as weapons seems totally consistent with the imam’s self-stated ideology.
gravenimage says
Thank you so much, Norger.
TKF says
There is no Allah. He blew himself up.
Norger says
Another quote from a speech at a jihad fundraiser last year:
“ I pray one day Allah will bless us to raise an army and I’m serious about this. We were very close, recently. We had made intention to raise an army of 10,000 men in New York City. Muslim men to go fight in the way of subhanahu wa ta’ala. And this is serious.”
https://www.meforum.org/islamist-watch/blog/january-2017/siraj-wahhaj-on-jihad
terry says
It’s amazing how easy lying comes to muslims.
muhamad
“War is deceit”.
TKF says
Every sane person should hate Islam.